₦airaland Forum

SlyDev:
leave am, Person wey all in ancestor civilization, na slavery dem use am do. To Bini, igala, Ijaw, efik, itsekiri etc.

Why do you enjoy lying

theTranscriber:
ifa is not a religion

I know it's a spirituality but you cannot be a christian and also practice Ifa

I read deeply into it but I don't see myself sacrificing animals I do believe in the reincarnation aspect of it and conversing with ancestors as well as the embodiment of nature through orishas apart from that I have no interest in the practice

SlyDev:
he who pay money control the trade.

He who controls supply controls the trade, if the Itsekiri didn't give the Aro enough Manilla and guns then they wouldn't trade with them so it was the Itsekiri who depended on the Aro

SlyDev:
Why were your ancestors unable to resist itsekiri?

Would he be Nigerian if the Itsekiri enslaved him? Mumu

Anyways the Itsekiri did nothing the Aro overpowered weaker igbo groups and sold them through the Itsekiri to the Europeans the Itsekiri were simply positioned well to do trade

SlyDev:
Itsekiri are the one controlling arochukwu, they paid them handsomely to raid for Strong eboe slaves.

The Itsekiri were conquered by the Bini and the Aro stole the slave trade from the Bini people so which itsekiri controlled the Aro?

SlyDev:
Itsekiri with alpha dominance going to the heart of igboland to take them as slaves, that had to be the bravest thing I've seen in Nigeria.

This never happened

SlyDev:
300 spartan-like Itsekiri are raiding slaves in the heart of igbo land. No resistance.

In book of black Congo Jews, its recorded itsekiri enslaved black Jews for 3000 years. Those black lazy Jews must be cowards!

Itsekiri didn't enslave anybody and neither did they raid anyland the Aro and the Bini did all the slave raiding the Itsekiri were simply the middlemen between them and the Europeans

BiafraInc:
Yeah, because Remo omokri, an itshekiri loud mouth told you so, and it became part of your history without evidence. It may stock with you cowards, but not with we Igbos, because it didn't happen. We know the lagos ibadan express way gutter media and what they have been doing.
Muguh, fulani is occupying your land for over 200 years and we all are witness to it today. Go and take it back and stop talking gibberish about fighting back at Ibadan. Why stop at Ibadan? Go on and fight them off from kwara and take over Kwara from them if you are not cowards.

What of the Igbos in Benue and Kogi state who were conquered by the Igala and Jukun nobody mocks you for that I see no reason for the continued violence and tension between the yoruba and igbos what's all the name calling for

SlyDev:
.. Aro chukwu were just opportunist slave raiders

Opportunist? NO


They were skilled fighters and warriors any war within that area in fact any war in south eastern Nigeria even as far as cameroon they called on Aro warriors to fight it because they were the most fierce which was why they were able to conquer so much land and raid so many villages and areas for slaves

SlyDev:
Aro was slave raiding, they are slave raiders and traders

I know but they also conquered lots of land and spread Nsibidi to other igbo groups that they conquered in fact it's likely that had the British not come all Igbos and Deltan people would be able to use Nsibidi freely who knows it could have even spread to the Bini

SlyDev:
Loud mouth as usual during the time of fodio common itsekiri was raiding heart of igbo land for slaves.

FALSE AGAIN


The Itsekiri were those who sold them at the cost it was the Aro Igbos that controlled the inland capture of slaves they used the slave trade to gsin more advanced weapons to be abke to increase their influence and geographical spread

BiafraInc:
You are daft it beggars belief. So Ndokwa is not Igbo. Why are some of you so dumb? Is it as a result of delta river that some of you are drinking? We understand that there are some remnants of IleUbinu migrants living in Ndokwa land, and if you are a migrant from IleUbinu into Ndokwa, then admit it, instead of saying in disguise that Ndokwa people are not Igbos.

Where did I say Ndokwa are not Igbos or that there are no Bini in the deltan area I said that the Aro Igbos are not Bini because they are too far east and I said I am Ndokwa don't see which argument you're trying to produce rn

BKayy:
It was never monarchy and will never be. Any priest that steps out of line hears from the people.
He holds no court except when he mediates for the court.
Quick question, was there a Palace for him before the British came?

Of course there was it was burnt down by the British when they sacked Arochukwu

BiafraInc:
Danfodio conquered you the weak yorubas and took the whole of Kwara and install emir over you cowards. Your master danfodio would have been crushed to death had he tried that nonsense anywhere in Igboland. Gi and ask his current foot soldiers what they are seeing in the hands of ESN.

I thought you were peaceful people? Kwara was an inside job not a matter of weakness btw

theTranscriber:
you practice ifa?

I've left that matter alone now

I'm a passing Christian kind of atheist kind of Christian

BKayy:
What concerned Aboh with Ekumeku?
Ekumeku started after the fall of Arochukwu. With some Aro Guerrillas being the first.
Infact, incase you don't know many Northern Igboland was not conquered by Britain but were Ignored to submission.

FALSE AGAIN


Ekumeku was still ongoing when Arochukwu was sacked by the British and if you didn't know the Aboh were part of the people fighting in Ekumeku we were a trading point in the Niger and a massive naval power at the time within the niger delta we tried to fight off the british navy and blow up their ships before they landed but were only partially successful I know because my grandfather was an Ezomo ( Warrior King ) and his father told him the exploits of the Ekumeku War

SlyDev:
What you understand is while ur culture is primitive, not having a centralized system of government has its advantage, one of which it will be difficult to penetrate as oppose to Yoruba or Hausa when a king is defeated, his army will surrender. Now look you are not strong to resist British, but instead they were conquering clans one by one and this took time.

So when the Alaafin of the Oyo empire was defeated in battle and the fulani sacked Oyo Ile did the yoruba give up? or did they move on to fight back and win through the Ibadan war chiefs? there's a difference between defeat and power tussle which was what happened during yoruba civil war everyone wanted the power that the Alaafin had.


Anyways as I was saying no culture is primitive they each ahve their benefits and their negatives. A king can decide on what he wants and it happens albeit the Oyo Mesi or Ogboni disagree meanwhile in decentralized system there will always be arguments other the next action and such can destroy a nation in times of war which is why the Aro were able to conquer so many different groups because they had a king and they were quick and decisive

BKayy:
First of all, there was never any king.
The first priest (Eze Aro) was the renowned Dibịa Oké Nnachi after agwụ rejected the first person

Eze Aro is not a priest it's a king and he passed down to his son so is that not a monarchy? I don't care what you want to call it if it's a monarchy then I will call them Kings

theTranscriber:
you are aboh right?

Yess Oh

theTranscriber:

Why u dey argue eboe history with them?
I pity u
U Neva get experience

Their history get as he be

Are you Ijaw?

I'm Ndokwa but my father's mother so my grandmother is igbo so I chose to learn about their history and culture too

BKayy:
So someone tending and serving as a link to Ibini Ukpabi is a king to you?

Then what is the Eze Aro??

BKayy:
Leave them to be fooling themselves here.
We are peaceful people

Peaceful Ke?

So what was the Ekumeku War for if you were peaceful would you not have discussed colonialism? Nope you went into war and for the first few years you were winning until the British pushed back and started burning forests exposing your guerilla tactics in the end you lost in 1912 not even you infact it was the Aro Igbos and other southern igbo groups and some deltan people like the Aboh

theTranscriber:
ahohboy
Yes!
They are here!

These are not my brothers oh, i'm a niger delta boy

BKayy:
In as much as I don't want to interfere in this useless thread, I want you to know that No part of Igboland had any king before the idiotic white men arrived and imposed one Aboh man on Oraifite in 19th century
What Nri, Arochukwu and Onitsha has were Priests.
They ruled over NOBODY.
most notably is Eze Nri that is always invited for Divination or cleansing in most Northern Igboland communities but after that, he goes back to his shrine.
As for the one of Onitsha, one of his notable trip was at the court of Bini after which he returned with a Bini wife as one of his wives.
Eze Mmụọ= Eze Nri = Eze Chime = Eze Aro doesn't sound similar to you?

WRONG

Some groups had kings and others didnt the Nri didn't have kings the Nsukka didn't have kings but the Aro did

gaetano:
trade not conquest. We did not conquer our neighbors, conquering thing was never in our nature

False it was only the Nri that didn't conquer other people the Aro conquered many other lands and waged many wars other wise why would there be awka blacksmiths who were renowned for their sword works for example

theTranscriber:
Lol
Your brothers say otherwise
They say all Igbos were all "democratic" "Republican" and they keep shouting it in our ears

Are you saying that they are liars?

Which one is my brothers? I speak for myself and I speak the truth some Igbo groups had decetralized democracy and others had monarchy along with the democratic system to regulate the king same way Yoruba had Oyo Mesi and Ogboni Society, the Aro who were the most powwrful, violent and warlike of the Igbo people had a King who was regulated by Dibia ( Ogboni equivalent ) and Village Chiefs ( Oyo Mesi Equivalent )

SlyDev:
All the igbos that have king are related to Bini! Fact! That's why culture of two igbo civilization is not surprising anymore. The closer to Bini and igala igbos were more advanced while others are just primitive and archaic.

I will have to disagree with this sentiment the Aro Igbos are close to the border with Cameroon and very close to Calabar so a connection with the Bini is unlikely

Abohboy:
Go and learn about the Ekumeku war the whole land of the yorubas by 1902 was conquered but the Igbos continued resisting till 1912 and this resistance was led by the Aro igbos and Alaigbo ( SE ) DOES NOT occupy ALL the land of the Igbo people, there are the Ukwuani people near my village of Aboh who count as igbos, there are other groups in the northern parts of most delta states

Even my mother agrees this and she is a yoruba woman there should be no beef between us we need to unite as one if we want to see progress

SlyDev:
Igbo didn't conquer even a house fly in Congo jungle. All their fight is through back biting and deceit like what they are doing in Nigeria today. You said through conquest but alaigbo is smaller than Oyo State

Go and learn about the Ekumeku war the whole land of the yorubas by 1902 was conquered but the Igbos continued resisting till 1912 and this resistance was led by the Aro igbos and Alaigbo ( SE ) DOES NOT occupy ALL the land of the Igbo people, there are the Ukwuani people near my village of Aboh who count as igbos, there are other groups in the northern parts of most delta states

theTranscriber:
lol
As usual
Una no dey taya?
The only reason is because you were scattered around
And had no central system
Fake democracy

I no wan argue abeg
Go to the Kenyatta thread

The Aro Igbos had a system when did I talk about ALL igbos i'm talking about a singular group of Igbos it wasn'tall igbo groups that had no kings the Aro for example had Kings but other groups like the Nri Igbos didn't

And I don't understand this onslaught when i've stated things and you can't reply properly this is not an ethnic war my dad is from Delta my mom is from Ogun


My grandmother ( paternal ) is from Anambra I have no beef with the igbos, niger delta people or the yoruba they are all in my bloodline cry and weep i don't care because clearly you're trying to stroke up an ethnic argument rn

theTranscriber:
conquest my foot

Oh well guess you can't argue effectively anyways there's a reason why the Aro were able to wage war against the british till 1912 but no other people were because they were in terms of Army Strength and Resilience the number 1 in the geographical space of Nigeria

theTranscriber:
lies
Nsibidi is not from any Igbo
I don't have no time to argue
Google

Where did I say Nsibidi is from igbo? I said Arochukwu spread it to other igbo groups after finding out about it through trade and conquest of other lands such as those of the ibibio and ekoi