₦airaland Forum

techwaya:
Only an Igbo president can do that, fulanis do not want igbos to have oil and sea access,they don't want Igboland to progress because we show them pepper in the Biafran war they hate Igboland..

Which is why we need to work to unite the south it is only through yoruba and igbo unity that igbo presidency can be seen in earnest and this unity starts by uniting all the Igbo groups across Nigeria especially the estranged ones in Delta, Rivers, Kogi and Benue

But ultimately the eastern region cannot stand today we would need one region encompassing all igbo population including those in Rivers, Delta, Kogi and Benue and a separate one for the Niger Delta people e.g. Isoko, Ijaw etc.

Emperormartin:
Do you know that in map of Nigeria, akwaibom and cross River State are more south east than Abia and imo state...The only South south states according to the map are Bayelsa, Rivers and Delta states.
Personally, I don't believe in South East or south south region.
I believe in the old eastern region

Tbh this makes more sense but ethnic politics messed up the division of states in Nigeria

The SE is supposed to hold all the Igbo population within Nigeria same the SW holds 98% if not all Yoruba people in Nigeria and in any case the SE is too small they should bring in the Anioma, Ukwuani and Ndokwa LGAs into the SE as a new Anioma State or to be divided between Anambra and Imo State either one works fine thye are historically and culturally Igbo people and thousands of us here agree that we are Igbo epople regardless of the Bini minority in our population

The FG should do the needful and restructure the nation in such a way that the SE is expanded to include parts of Delta and Rivers

Emperormartin:
Whenever you see ika, ikwere, ukwuani, anioma igbos outside Nigeria then you'll realize they're all IGBOS...

Thank you

kingsways:
On behalf of all proud Igbos worldwide, I want to inform you we do not care if Ikwerres, Ukwuanis or whatever think they are Igbos or not

Anyone who thinks he is not Igbo is WELCOME to belong to whatsoever he / she want

You're contradicting yourself i'm not sure what your final point is, in any case we Western Igbos being Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Ndokwa and Anioma are all Igbos it is only a small minority that have a Bini complex from the refugees that came

techwaya:
No they are mostly Binni migrants refugees who borrowed our language.when jungle mature we shall separate the sheep from the goats,send the goats back to Benin including you op because you do not believe in Biafra .

So they would bear names like Chukwuma as Bini people? The Bini only came in the 16th century thousands of years after the Igbo had established themselves in the Western Niger Delta basin. The Bini are a minority and I never said I don't believe in Biafra I believe that Biafra is a last resort situation we should make one more final push as a united south against the north to get proper leadership and restructure the nation if it doesn't work out then we can go our seperate ways

SlyDev:
Only western igbos are true igbos; other igbos were absorbed by cultural dominance of western igbos.

I disagree Igbos originated from modern day Anambra State it was from there that they spread out to other areas but Western Igbo land across the Niger River is still very close to our origin and before the British came we had extensive trade relations with them

Marotzke:
Abohboy by onye Igbo.

Abi O we need to unite all the Igbos starting with those of the Niger Delta then we can move as one us igbos and the whole south need to have a united voice

Even to start a political party they failed I was a member of one NYDP and before I knew it they split into 7 different groups then one party came and scooped up two of those groups that party being MOP I now chose to join them but the thing that's bugging me about this new youth party MOP is the overly socialist movement i'm honestly not sure if we will be able to produce any political party for the youths because all these new parties are unregistered and have little more then 5k members all of whom aren't even stout supporters.

It's high time for the Igbos in the west in areas like Delta Rivers and Edo State start showing off their true Igbotic culture the Ndokwa, Anioma, Ukwuani and Ika are all very clearly Igbo people and of Igbo origin the influx of Bini migrants, refugees and traders into the area shouldn't undermine the clear Igbo heritage of us.

Let's all express our Igbo heritage and come together as one and as Igbo people.

Eke40seven:
Your ideas could have worked like 5-6 years ago or even some months ago, when stern IPOB followers are for the Igbos all over the zone (which they tried by bringing awareness of Igbos in Kogi and Benue especially) and championing for the inclusion and rights and many southern minorities but now even the staunchest of them are now turning towards proud Igbos only and probably Ibibios and the rest on the east.

For your ideas to work, you must understand and respect how your intentions align. You must start with your own people first. Despite how solid and resolute the wall these guys here have been that you couldn't penetrate, if they see changes from the other side they are always bendable.

Let your intentions be pure and try to see where your goals align.

Thank you so much for this i'll take your word into consideration and try and see how I can help the Igbos in Delta State to become proud igbos and hopefully one day unite

See people on twitter agree us Ndokwa are Igbo

Sufferingboy:
Check what he said,before my comment.

He is busy attacking Ika people.

You also insulted the Igbo on a previous thread so I know that when he sais Ika attacked the Igbos i'm sure you're involved in that

Ariani:
Listen to the Bini Ika man, and stop your "attache by force".
Igbos don't consider you lots (IKa/Ukwuani) one of us, and we know the feeling is mutual.
So stop the pretence already.
Secondarily, we have no interest in whatever southern NIGERIA unity rubbish.
We are only for Alaigbo republic, which you are not part of.

Listen to voice of reason and stay in your lane.

I'm not Ika or Ukwuani i'm Ndokwa from Aboh the headquarters of Ndokwa East LGA where our King is called Obi where we hold the new yam festival like the Igbos and where we have masqueardes similar to those of Onitsha and other parts of Igbo land.

Based off of what he has said I will make this proposal


We ( Ndokwa LGA ) will not be part of any Alaigbo republic or nation BUT we will hold close ties and when attacked by Bini, Yoruba or Hausa people we stand as one because we are still related we will be our own and you will be your own but we just stick together when it comes to politics and elections, how's that?

Sufferingboy:
Igbos too sabi make mouth.

Can you stop with these insults your movements are the opposite of what i'm trying to achieve

Ariani:
In the end, the average Ndokwa person still reluctantly fall in line with their Ukwuani brothers and would choose them over SEners.

So the way I see it, they are all more or less on same WhatsApp group.

I have seen enough from Oshimili and Aniocha to know that when push comes to shove, they would join us over the Biniphilic Ikas and Ndokwa/Ukwuani, which is why I am very receptive of them. The only bad egg in Oshimili/Aniocha axis is the Issele uku, who are still deep in Bini nostalgia.

Where did you get this idea I've never even spoken to a Bini person before in my life I feel no cultural pull or interest towards the Bini it is only the Igbo culture and history that i've deeply followed

Ariani:
Well, Aboh people are still writhing from their Bini slavish nostalgia.
Yes, Ndokwa people in general are more pro Igbo than Ukwuani people.
I am very much conversant with every single detail, variations and idiosyncrasies present in Igboid areas in Rivers State and Delta state.
I have virtually studied these groups for 15years now.

Aboh is the headquarters of Ndokwa East LGA so if Ndokwa people are Igbo then Abioh people are Igbo added to thagt the Bini never enslaved the Ndokwa they only enslaved the Ukwuani. The Ndokwa simply took in some poor Benin refugees who were running from the slave trade but they don't make up a massive proportion of our culture or language look at our masquerades, listen to our language our Ruler was called Obi Ossai his son's name was Chukwuma these are very clearly igbo names

Sufferingboy:
Abohboy you are bringing disagrace upon Ndokwa people.Stop this nonsense,What we should be thinking now is to make the next deputy governor of delta is an Ndokwa and the next governor an Ijaw.....

What disgrace am I bringing? I simply want progress I don't care what ethnicity the leader is if the south is united then we can simply choose leaders from the south who are good and who will lead us not those of a specific ethnic group it's this ideology that's holding us back.

Eke40seven:
I understood the Ndokwa are quite pro-Igbos unlike the people from Ukwani LGA

However, you must understand that your dreams and that of Igbo people here on Nairaland who for years were pleasing for Igbo unity for the purity of it, "Igbo unity" and not for any ulterior motives have been met with insults and many of these "Beninphilic-Igbophobic" Igboids have been insulting them for years.

First, you don't need to bring this preaching to these crop of Igbos but rather to the ones on the other side of the political zone.

See again why your dreams don't align.

You have talked about your own selfish reasons to bring back Aboh's glory lost like over 200 years ago

Your similar groups have used Ndigbo for their quest and insult them later. See how Ijaws used the Igbos to elevate GEJ, now all the thread here is based on Igbo insults by Ijaws. See Ikwerres too, nobody knew them. Same thing.

Guys like Bkayy, Pazienza etc have been here for so long to understand the game plan.

Igbos on the other side are for the elevation of Ala-Igbo and Ala-Igbo alone. Their dream is that of an Igbo independence nation. They have called for years for you guys to be onboard and now I do not think they are interested

I believe this crop of Igbo generation are different. The generation before them adored Zik because the Nigerian govt packaged him that way, this generation do not like him.

Many of them are for Biafra and you have never put a word out in that direction. You see why you have been met with strong hostility.

I wish you luck in your quest.

I see based off of this my original intentions won't work i'll have to reform my ideas and bring them back

Eke40seven:
There is a big difference between Ndokwa LGAs and Ukwani LGAs in terms of Igbo identity. Ndokwa is very pro-Igbo while Ukwani still have flashbacks from Benin slave days.
However, I think I understand your concerns.

Thank you i've been saying this

Arda1000:
remove Anioma just say you are Ndokwa,and yes we don’t want any Benin confused slaves in our midst thank you

The Ndokwa are not benin slaves, the bini came as refugees in the 16th century and only make up a minority of the population

Ariani:
There is no difference between IKa, Aboh, Ikwerre, Ogba,etc

All of them belong to same WhatsApp group called "Bini Igboids", and they all have same format which is built around seeking for Cheap popularity by ridiculing Ndiigbo or portraying us as monsters.

When did I ridicule you? When did I portray you as monsters? Stop putting me in the same box as others Hitler was a german and commited all kinds of atrocities does that mean all Germans are like Hitler? That's the same way not all Ndokwa and Anioma are the same

Ariani:
Really?
You will leave NL, and go to where? Twitter? Mazi Ogbonnaya and co hold away there, and these are awakened Igbos. They all know your games and will shoot you dead before you even start your agenda.
Infact, you will find the most resentful Igbos towards you Bini Igboids these days among IPOB people, and they full Twitter o!

What about Facebook?
Haha! That's a no go area.

See. Your games are up. This una scam format don cast. You need new format.
You will be more depressed the more you try to push this Agenda because most modern Igbos are very much alert to them. Get ready for more rejection.

My candid advice to you is that you drop this Agenda for the sake of your mental health and learn to make peace with your non Igbo status.

Okay if you say so just wait and see

Arda1000:
Ok but you are Ika ? If yes what I wrote still applies to you,yeye stinking Benin slaves

No i'm not Ika i'm Anioma and Ndokwa

Arda1000:
I don’t know what Ure saying but the last I went to Agbor I can clearly here you guys dialect but people I met told me they are not Igbo,so any day I met someone who is from Agbor I take him as a Benin man,when I was in Lagos there’s this Agbor man in my compound,the hatred he has for Igbo is far greater than any Yoruba that is in that compound,so you guys should stay with your Benin people I don’t care how close Igbo land is to you but we are not the same no we can never allow Benin slaves in our midst

It's liek you can't read i'm not from Agbor i'm from ABOH there's a massive difference these two places are 150-200km apart meanwhile places like ontisha are 100km apart much closer to us. it's as if i'm talking to illiterates smh

Ariani:
We weren't the ones who called you lots (Ukwuani/Ika) and their ilks slaves.
It was Reno.
We are mainly repeating his words.

And moreover, your Bini Igboids have said worst things than that about Igbos.
So don't play the holier than thou games with me.
It's not an emotional something. This is pure pragmatism.

Bini Igboids like your Ukwuani Ndokwa people adds nothing but negative vibes to Ndiigbo.
You drain us for your selfish interests. You are an encumbrance we need off our backs.

We are done with you lots and have obviously moved on. Make peace with that and stop the emotional blackmail games.
It wouldn't work bro.

Have I as in ME ever insulted an Igbo no Idgaf about what others have said I don't know them and I never will your reasoning and logic is just horrendous I don't even know why I came to Nairaland home of bigotry and tribalism i'll leave you lot alone so get off my thread

Ariani:
I don't know where you see hate in my message.
So, someone wanting to stay on his own translates to hating those who want to stay with him?
We don't hate or love anyone in Nigeria.
We have seen you all and what you all are capable of.
We want no part in your ish.
We just want to be left alone. How hard can this be to understand?

So calling someone a slave doesn't show hate

I already told you that you can leave i've left you alone i'm only talking to Igbos who agree with my movement if you don't like it move on with your life and leave me alone

SlayerForever:
Nri did not take over anybody.

I said assimilated not take over, they willingly joined because they agreed with the ideology of the Nri that's why the Nri were the largest igbo kingdom and the most renowned

Mortiple:
I definitely knew that Reno Omockery was spewing lies.

Just imagine Reno claiming that some of his Delta Igbo neighbours were Bini and Ishekiri slaves. How possible is that?

As a matter of fact, Igbos rule over their own territory and that of their neighbours and not the other way round. Sadly, the so called Delta Igbos are already denying their Igbo-ness in order to be accepted by their neighbours who are minorities to Igbo tribe.

Igbo kwenu!

Who says we're rejecting our igbo ness? us Ndokwa and Anioma are very produly igbo but we are being rejected by the igbo population for whatever reason

Ariani:
Ndiigbo are not against southern unity.
We just don't want to be a part of it.
Understand the difference.

You minorities can go do the tower of Babel, aka "mini Nigeria" aka Southern Nigeria republic with. Yorubas if they are interested.

Just leave Ndiigbo Alone. That's all we ask if you.

I'll leave YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ALONE. But I won't leave alone the greater igbo population because I know that there are a large amount of igbos who agree with my vision and I will bring them out if I continue and I find there's no support among the Igbos then by all means I will leave it alone for now though I will continue

Arda1000:
u don’t even understand their predicament,Benin people that they are trying to attach themselves have rejected them and Igbo now have rejected them too what a shame

When did the Ndokwa try and unite with the bini and when did the Ndokwa become non igbos? I'm confused by this, Aboh is quite literally across the river from Owerri and is just 100km south of Onitsha what makes us non igbos?