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adanny01:
Did you grow up in Ibadan? You sure sound like CityNG? This will be my second pointless argument with you this time around on your third moniker. Exactly the same argumentative methods and the same language.

If your identity is blown this time, would you deactivate this moniker like you did the 2 other ones i knew you.

So EgunMogaji abi na CityNG abi na Samarin, your language sells you out no matter how you change your moniker. Bring the next one and it wont change who you are.You have been stereotyped and i can smell you like fish from far away.

abdulwastecx:
i really love to build this simple flat for myself in suleja next year
the roof is low cost type, simple flat roof with long span aluminum roofing sheet

abdulwastecx:
i am looking at this simple three bedroom flat, all room en-suit
take a look at this 3D pics

abouzaid:
please search"how many blocks can you get from a bag of cement nairaland" on Google and read through the results to know the truth. even you would be miffed by the hypocrisy been displayed on this thread.please read this particular page www.nairaland.com/755766/technology-block-making/1where the most respected builder once again declared that 43-44 blocks per bag would yield a very strong block yet that particular builder and others who have used a similar ratio are on this thread and refuse to say the truth. a certain builder who claimed to own a block industry claimed that i would need 80 bags of cement for a German floor yet go through the construction threads on nairaland and tell me how many houses used upto 60 bags for a German floor whereas all those houses are far bigger than what i proposed here. i can sense the hypocrisy among the builders here from a mile away but i comment my reserve for now.

Dieumerci:
Yes Sir, no more comments.
Some of us know what is going on here.

Babs612000:
Please how many blocks of 6" can we get in a bag of cement for we that don't know.

adanny01:
On topic, fingers are not all equal. What you may not be proud of another may see as a dream come true. Very little number of Nigerians say 20% can afford a N2m house so the rest will be proud to have one.

The most expensive parts of the average Nigerian building are roof, tiling and fencing. If you limit on those and limit number of bathroom and size of entire house, N2m is a good amount to help a Nigerian stop paying rent.

adeekiti:
sir/ma, I need a solution to this Asap .. A crack on a POP ceiling and each time the sun is out, it's makes a crack sound...what can be done. Anyone with such experience pls

brabus:
Let me open the floor. Both projects below are Nairaland projects and handed over to their respective owners.

A standard four bedroom bungalow should range between:

3 - 3.5m in Ogijo, Ogun State
3 - 3.5m in Lambe, Akute side
4.5m in Ajah, Lagos State
3m in Owode Yewa, Agbara and environ
2.7 - 3m in Abeokuta, Ogun State
3m in Ile Oluji, Ondo State


Ogijo 4 Bed Bungalow | 2011 - 2014
I've done only one 4 bedroom bungalow as a project for a client but this house cannot be used as yardstick as the total cost of the building is 4.5m

It has the following:

1. 14 X 20' main lounge with a VT
2. 15 X 17' dining
3. A very big kitchen
4. 22 X 22 masters bedroom (ensuite)
5. Drive-in garage with a ramp for the disable. (Clients request)
6. A Big Porch and kitchen terrace
7. Other Rooms at 12 X 15
8. Plot size is 2 plots. Cost includes fencing the 2 plots and gate installation.
9. POP ceiling in all the rooms and living room
10. 0.55 gauge step tiles Aluminium.


Lambe 2 units of 2 bed on 2 floors | 2012
Here's another very close project built in 2012 in Lambe, Ogun State with a build cost of N3.5m

1. 2 units of 2 bed house on 2 floors (masters ensuite)
2. 15 X 12 living room with a balcony
3. 5 X 8 kitchen
4. PVC ceiling
5. Imported sliding Windows
6. Long span 0.45 gauge roofing

There's no need to flood this thread with pictures of these projects. They're on my project thread and the clients are reading also.

adeekiti:
sir, can you believe I will put up a post of how much will it cost me to build a 2 bedroom flat and someone will say 1M and the other contractor seeing the post in other to gain the contract, he might bring his own quote lower than the other person and in the middle of the whole thing, he will become Oliver Twist " asking for more"

brabus:
So my question is "How much does a standard (forget the jaras and effizys) 4 bedroom bungalow in a dry and table flat land cost in your area?"

Use your area as sample and possibly back it up with pictures and other evidences as the case may be.

Who knows someone may benefit from this!

adeekiti:
Sir, it's obvious there can't be such deal of having a 4bedroom flat with 2M, maybe if the cost of materials will drop as we are experiencing in the price of cements but will all the prices of other materials drop too? Someone commented about the prices of water supply on a project which is another factor, as water supply is very important in constructions, now the question is , will borehole or water supply be part of the 2M expenses? There are different issues arising at different construction site And mostly money will be the only way to tackle it, now at the middle of situations the contractor will be waiting for the owner to complain and he will tell the owner, you are getting what you pay for, so who is at fault ? Sir, in the states mos houses are built with what we can't even dare try to use in Nigeria(examples: woods) but yet they have their maintainance often, and when nature attacks either storm or Katrina, they already expect damages when hit, nobody will be blamed as you know what you paid for and the problems to expect. As a contractor there are lots you need to explain to your clients after you serve them what they want, a guide to all u use in making of their homes, nothing needs to be hidden here, as a contractor, spending 2M on a 4bedroom flat is never a risk worth taking at all.

adeekiti:
Thinking of spending 2M in making of a 4bedroom flat is just like trying to plan a day to cry , abinukole that's what such person is, then a lot of questions must be raised with the issues of collapse structures, do they spend the necessary amount on the projects? What happened to the contractor who budgeted certain amount and along the line he realize he should av budgeted more and because of trying to keep up to his budget, he will av to manage things till he gets to the finishing, lots of issues arises after a while , paint peeling off, big cracks on walls, we don't av to gamble on trying to av a structure spending lesser than what mr B spent on his and u coming out to be a super economist, lots of people will keep having issues at the end of the day if u can't leave room for a backup. Good afternoon my ogas in the house, I'm as well learning from your comments sir/ma. Lovely ideas here from everyone and thanks for sharing with us

spyder880:
Good points, but the problem is that most Nigerians have not made up their minds on what to add or drop from their building plans. Everyone wants to appear richer than his neighbours and so every little introduction must be copied. I saw a man who peeled off his zink roof to do aluminium back then when aluminium was new, and peeled aluminium to replace with stone coated he even wants to remove it again now to add parapet fascia!

KolaShangOne:
Like I said before, anything is possible in view to construction.

The question is not "can 2.5million build a house?" The question for me is "what kind of house can 2.5million build?"

One thing I don't like about the Nigerian mentality is that "I must build my own house." I walk around Ibadan and I see these 'buildings'

During Ikeja Bomb blasts, I was in a friends house in Iyana Ipaja area of Lagos which is far from the site of the blasts. The house was vibrating, windows shattered and We noticed lines of crack on the walls. We had to run to my father's house which wasn't vibrating like their own.

Talking of low cost housing, there's Transformation estate in Ibadan going for 4.5million for a 3 bdr. It's a fine condo. The whole size is not more than what I will use for an ante room, living room and dining.

abdulwastecx:
low cost housing need to be look into from a different perspective
Things like size of the house, method of construction, and the design.

why build a four bedroom flat, when you have a budget of 2.5m naira. The wise thing can be to build a smaller house like two bedroom flat.

cheaper construction materials like stabilized laterite brick, laterite roofing sheet, making doors and cheaper windows.

brabus:
Unfortunately, all the Lasisi, Lamidi, Muri, Ayuba, driving Okada and also living in their houses are not here on Nairaland to give us the expo.

Even if an Okada man is making 20k per day, he can never have N4m in 6 months. I knew a lot of them who now live in their houses. Thank God for them sha.

spyder880:
Who was talking about small plots optimisation? A 4 bedroom house on a plot not up to 300 sqm.

twinskenny:
i am working on a 3 bedroom flat... one guest toile, one toilet for the master bedroom, one toilet for the remaining two room.. the building is at lentel level... and the soackaway has been done too.... and i have spent less than 1m... land purchase not inclusive..


not much design oooo just a normal parlour room thingy


anyway am planning to spend less than 2m over all. which include roofing tiling, doors etc.

its a complete dry land though along lagos ibadan expressway.


meanwhile since i dont have enough money now, i couldnt afford building engineer or an archy,,, a friend whos an archy did the design for free then God gave me a season mason from Ibadan who is sincere enough to help manage the little fund..

its well.. i will post picture later today

KolaShangOne:
Oga Abouzaid, the bolded statement where you BELIEVE they make 70 blocks per bag shows you don't have practical Knowledge yet. I own a little block industry So I know what I'm saying..
You need to do more bro..

EgunMogaji:
Dude, I apologize if I've ever given you a reason that I consider what you like or don't like into consideration in any thing I do. And I'm not your friend, we are userids. You don't even register on any scale of people whose opinions I cherish on NL so stuff it already.

Face your lane and post on topic and don't make this an interpersonal deal. It's not.

KolaShangOne:
@abouzaid Your cost analysis iscquite explicit.

But..

Making 43 blocks per bag is quite much and below standard. How can U achieve German floor with 200k when 3 rolls of wiRe mesh is 45,000 already? 25t granite costs about 70,000 and sand cost about 30,000-32000. Water? Assume 80 bagscof cement @1400 =112,000. What's the mix ratio for your concrete? I assume sth like 1:10:10?



Nothing is impossible so I'm looking forward.

nigeriancuban:
lol,the way u exergerated the moniker got me lmao but like I said it all depends on the specs though,I actually meant to put "something" @ the end of that comment though....but never estimate the need for a clinically ambitious to pad their résumé s

Babs612000:
Thanks for your post please l am waiting for cost analysis and which type of roofing are you using hope it is not aluminium because that will cost you nothing less than 800k.

gists:
And you don't know that for every homeless person in US, there are probably 5 in Russia. And by the way, this is not a the stand-alone comparison of the economic strength of both countries, I am talking about the influence the US has over the majority of the countries in each continent.
I just don't get when people just use sentiment to make decisions in this country. I am not the biggest fan of Obama/US but give it to them - they are the best!
The only reason why Russia still has influence in Europe is the fact that she supplies them Gas. Trust me, most European nations don't like that idea and they will jump at the next available alternative - which will most likely be brokered and probably part-financed by US. Can Russia do this to US? - NO!!


Unfortunately, Nigeria has leaders that only cares about money in their bank account. They are not interested in real power among nations. Its such a shame especially when you look at he population size. We have the potential but lack the will/drive.

odinese:
.u guys should stop posting this minister bullshit, its becoming boring and stupid.....


These guys are all corrupt, I don't why u guys should be celebrating corrupt people.

omoelesa:
Dont be surprised, most people that are shouting Rusia and Putin here, are people, which are either moslem or people that have been denied visa at the America embassy.If these set of people were to chose between migrating to U.S or Rusia, majority would gladly chose U.S over Rusia.Set of hypoctrite.

gists:
Very true!!
On your first point: There is no reason why Alaska should be part of US. But Alaska is one of the 50 states that make up the US even though it is physically separated from the continental USA by 1000s of km. Has anybody asked why?

On your second point: There was this rumor that the crash in oil price is due to US producing her oil reserve. If it is true, is it a coincident that US started oil production at a time she need to sanction Russia? In addition, US has Saudi and ALL the major oil gulf countries as allies (now Iran may be joining the party too). That means US can turn Russia's major income generator to "pure water". The war may already have been won before the first cannon is fired!

But still, I don't really like US that much because she spread wars and by extension poverty, hunger, diseases etc to "non-conforming" countries while spreading wealth to those that are in her good books - effectively, US is playing god But that does not remove the fact that she is the most powerful country in the world by a wide margin

abdulwastecx:
orion is one of the best reinforced concrete design software around:
fast and precise detailing to suit your need
adequate bending schedules to help you your bill of quantities
it also help you with quantity extraction for concrete work, formwork and reinforcement.

Miscellaneous:
@pic…… sorry to say but why does the design looks like a shadow has been cast on it? It looks shabby & hence, not beautiful. I thought archicad will have better graphics but sadly, it's behind autocad.