₦airaland Forum

EgunMogaji:
While laughter is the best medicine but one needs to be careful because insane folks also laugh without reason. Just saying.

haba, i said no e~punch na, and welcome to 9ja. please it's not a small bungalow, it's over 3000 square feet

segcymoor:
I have a simple answer. ........depends on the location

location is sambisa forest, just joking but take a guess, what would you personally take as been a good time frame to recoup your investment?

Beulah09:
15 to 20 years. Anything better than that is EXCELLENT

thanks a million but would you consider that a good investment when compared to other options? especially if you're igbo and the plot is in the north.

please, i have a simple question that needs a simple answer, assuming you built a two bedroom rental property for 2.5 million, how many years would you consider reasonable to earn back your money through house rents from it? thanks

chigoizie7:
This is what happens when our journalists love "BROWN ENVELOPS" more than their JOB.



They have been reporting in favor of their pay masters. thus, endangering the lives of common man.

They refused to tell us the truth about boko haram and its activities. Just to favor the government in power.

all these would end when buhari pays them amnesty with money from the Niger Delta. shakarau would own private jets and a private university in Niger then.

joes11:
There is no truth in APC.
May God help Nigeria

every country deserve the type of leaders that they have, Nigeria deserves the current change they have, unfortunately, with the apc controlling the news media and having a well oiled propaganda machinery which includes paid e~rats on nairaland. they can be in power for decades using religion and tribal differences to divide and rule.

i can't stop laughing at the masquerade, make una no throw me e~punch o.

aishaquest:
Hmmm...most homes in the US are wood frame structures. It is not something for only the mega rich. The logging industry is a huge here. I guess lumber is more readily available and less expensive here.

Here in the US you would have to be mega rich to afford a house built this way.

the cost of building a concrete home is only slightly more than a wooden framed house in America and it's lasts longer, require less maintenance, less prone to damages from bush fires, earthquakes and destructive strong winds, your insurance payments would be less and you would have less heating and cooling costs. please Google it.

when are they going to investigate sars awkuzu in anambra state? they kill people daily there.

brabus:
If you already got a land, do the following:

1. Start buying sand. Buy as much as needed to complete the building project. Look for cheap source/supplier. If in Ogun/Ibadan/Ondo/Ekiti, 50k should give you 2/3 loads of sand. Do this for two months.
2. Start paying to a trusted cement supplier and obtain receipt for every payment. 50k as today will still give you about 40 bags of cement. Do this for 3 months. At the end of 3rd month, you should have 100 bags of cement.
3. Start moulding blocks on site. Look for workmen who do hand moulding and do it well.
4. At the end of 6th month, you should have materials enough to take the project to roof level within 3 weeks.
5. While at it, start assembling your team with you been the Project Head and get one skillful mason to work with as the Project supervisor. Job are very scarce nowadays and there are handful of these guys around who wants to be part of our project for obvious reasons (to eat your money or get busy). Be the wise one!
6. Break ground on the 8th month and negotiate the work on pay-as-you-go basis or block-counting basis.
7. Unless it's a water-logged site, ignore sand filling after foundation and the German-floor. Build straight up to lintel level.
8. Buy half ton of 12mm iron rods and buy ready made rings. Get the measurements of the lintels and beams, ask the supplier to get you an iron bender to help prepare the reinforcement for a fee. Those suppliers have handful of cheap workmen.
9. Give yourself a break of 2 months to save for the Sandfilling of the house.
10. At the end of the tenth month, you should have another 100k to commence Sandfilling. Source for additional 30k to start septic tank/soakaway excavation alongside sand filling. Use the same labourer for the septic tank to sand fill the house. You'll end up saving some cash.
11. Prepare to work on the lintels and the septic tank at the same time to save cost on woodwork. How? Get a local carpenter to hire planks for the lintels and the septic tank slab. You should still have about 50 bags of cement left to play with. Dedicate 20 bags to the building (lintels and block work after lintel) and the remaining 30 bags to septic tank and slab.


I need to attend a meeting right now. BRB

To be continued. Other inputs welcome.

if you can successfully finish this, i will send you a recharge card. so what's the size of the septic tank?

EgunMogaji:
I'm hoping others that have gone before me can guide on what they used that was effective. Diesel oil and kerosene are a no go area for me.

The way that these things work is by attacking the intermal organs. I will be surpised if the Nigerian "Omo Oshodi Oke" termites have no internal organs - lol.

solignum is a popular chemical used for that purpose in Nigeria

EgunMogaji:
I'm a modern Mogaji

Instead of a troupe of masquerades, I have a few close friends. Smith, Wesson, Glock and Winchester.

i hope you have a Nigerian police gun license for those.

spyder880:
Oga, you dey fall my hand o Why do you need gates when you can have Rottweilers and Labradors patrolling the grounds
The gate is huge sha, befitting of a man of your status, do you own the two plots? Why dividing it?

area boys would steal the dogs before anything else.

gabbytabby:
Good for dying of cancer.

nigerite is using cement fibres not asbestos in producing them. they have stopped using it for a long time.

seun should do something about the paid apc e~rats derailing threads with their lies and insults

isadamu:
The house isn't big. According to the drawing, it was meant to occupy 220 square meters. 9" block were used for the foundation and 6" for the house. I hope I've answered you.

please can i have the plan? can you tell me how else you were able to beat the cost down? nice work, I'm still interested in your final finishing cost.

EgunMogaji:
So man caves are dedicated play room for the man of the house. That's where him and the boys will hang out. You of course will find a big screen tv, maybe a bar, card table, trophys maybe of past prowresses, maybe a humidor, you know typical guy stuff and maybe some stuffed game animals.

I have one that is 17'x8', it is the one room that my wife has no direct influence on by agreement

most Nigerian wives won't be comfortable with that, that's why many Nigerian men patronize one joint or the other to hangout. a few men actually go to joints with their older sons.

EgunMogaji:
Are you guys designing "man caves" into houses yet in Nigeria?

to be honest, most home offices seems more like leftover space than delibrate designs. reminds me of the box room.

EgunMogaji:
Which, my two ogas, are the obvious.

Of course it's the homeowners choice. But that doesn't stop us from using that choice as fodder for discussion.

Mr. Kola I bet you're so pro roman pillar that you may even have the statue of Julius Caesar in your driveway

have you ever imagined what it would be like to live in a Roman themed villa,complete with a Roman bath/pool.

EgunMogaji:
Will you at least have a madams room?

madams room is none acceptable, i rather have a home office with a bed or a coach i can sleep on.

isadamu:
i intend to complete the project with 2.6 million naira, that is plastering, tiling, toiletries, wiring , etc. Like i said, everything here will be basic.

please what is the size of the house? what size of blocks did you use? thanks in advance

abdulwastecx:
There are plenty cheaper alternatives to the insitu concrete facias which considerably low ( about 50- 70% ) cost is save using these alternatives.

I am working on how improve the structural strength of precast facias for building. placing light reinforcement will solve all the problem with precast facial.

Alternative like polystyrene is cheaper, more aesthetics is achieved because of flexibility of materials, lighter in weight ( reducing torsional effect on building) and the cost is lower.[/quote[quote author=abdulwastecx post=37656999]There are plenty cheaper alternatives to the insitu concrete facias which considerably low ( about 50- 70% ) cost is save using these alternatives.

I am working on how improve the structural strength of precast facias for building. placing light reinforcement will solve all the problem with precast facial.

Alternative like polystyrene is cheaper, more aesthetics is achieved because of flexibility of materials, lighter in weight ( reducing torsional effect on building) and the cost is lower.

one thing i like about you is that is that you're highly knowledgeable about alternative technologies, i still remember your comment on using polyethene or carpets for a dpc membrane where no oversite concrete is

ochejoseph:
‎Buhari's Asset Declaration: An  Analysis 

After the public outcry and condemnation  All Progressives Congress  has once again squandered a great opportunity to redeem itself.
Rather than coming fully clean and apologising to Nigerians  for insulting their, Buhari and. His team  have once again polluted the media with thier stream of half truth and manipulated facts.

The essence of this thread is to simple , dissect Buhari's  declaration objectively notwithstanding the deceptive attempt by Shehu to use the term "mud"to sway sympathy!!!


1. Buhari's wife wears a =N= 10 Million wrist watch and he has just 30. Million hmmmmm I no say anything 

https://www.naij.com/450930-aisha-buhari-wore-very-expensive-wristwatch.html

2. The the tuition  fees for just one of his many  Daughters who studies at a Prestigious University in the UK  is  in excess of £ 30,000 (about 18 Million naira) and wants us to believe he lives in a cave............ in Patience Jonathan's voice continue! 

http://www.noniloaded.com/forum/showtopic.php?id=1183



3. When Yar'adua declared his assets  he beared it all, wife etc Mr Buhari is narrating his via a third party in bits excluding the "Jeffersons loot" wired through the beautician if You understand what I mean...........


http://www.proshareng.com/news/2554/Yar-Adua-makes-public-his-assets-declaration

4. Yardadua a PDP pacesetter gave us photo copies of his Asset declaration forms dully certified.

 Mr Buhari is using Shehu to tell us Stories...... 4 months after the assets were declared .....

http://www.proshareng.com/news/2554/Yar-Adua-makes-public-his-assets-declaration

4. Shehu in trying to be clever by half listed  the Companies where "Pastor" Osinbajo is a Director and deceptively excluded Alpha Beta the same company Tinubu et al used In fleecing lagos State.

http://lindaikeji..com.ng/2015/03/photo-so-is-he-prof-osinbajos-father-or.html?m=1

This people are not clever at all.......


This same people said they never promised to declare assets publicly
! 
https://www.naij.com/519951-say-buhari-never-promised-declare-assets-publicly-adesina.html

They said they never promised to feed any school child !

http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=14669&title=HURIWA-carpets-APC,-says-Buhari-must-feed-school-children-as-promised



They said GEJ and PDP is the reason why  those waiting for 5' k will have to wait forever..

http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/jonathan-is-the-reason-we-cant-give-school-kids-1-free-meal-or-pay-n5-000-monthly-apc.116781/


They said the 20,000 megawatts of electricity promised was a mere roadmap !

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/07/backlash-the-economics-of-lai-mohammed/


They said they never promised to scrap the office of the first lady but to rename it! 

https://www.naij.com/349866-why-i-wont-have-office-for-first-lady-buhari-reveals.html


It is this kind of hypocrisy, Lies and outright deception that we will continue to fight against until there is "Empirical" evidence in the Words Of Oby Ezekwesili that Justice Has been served. 

May God Continue to Bless Nigeria and Nigerians 

Shalom

please go to vanguard newspaper and open another thread with their report, it has alot of analysis by lawyers exposing this declaration as a scam.

snakebeat:
@ bolded, With this custom of client providing half plot of land & expecting an architect to design a maisionette? It's very difficult to plant the size of building on lands provided by client, let alone creating a garden & a pool, haba! @times one may even have to violate town planning laws & reg. Pertaining setbacks.

In design, client brief is very important, all the facilities u listed above requires space & finance. The structural stability of a building should come first before the landscaping & aesthetics. If clients can compromise the structural elements of a building due to finance, how much more outdoor facilities. In nigeria, clients are concerned about having a roof over their head. U know how hard things are in this part of the world. Most architects in nigeria are limited by clients brief & resources.

To your ante room & ensuit madness, a senator representing a senatorial district comes home, definitely there is going to be influx of visitors, from his co party members to traders & what have u, do u expect the traders to jump into the living room to intrude the senator's meeting with his co party members? The ante chamber serve as waiting area, where they can be entertained, which makes them feel welcomed. Though it's primarily for large buildings.

Foyer(entrance hall) is recommended for flats/apartment. There is a book guiding architects, just like the way pastors make reference to the bible. In architecture, there is something called flow chart, PORCH to HALL(from here visitors can access their wc, this space in large buildings is converted to anteroom) to LIVING, DINING, depending on how the architect wants it. Does it look good accessing the bedrooms from the living room? At least entering a LOBBY before accessing the bedrooms give one some sense of privacy, likewise anteroom(chamber) & foyer.

As regards the ensuit, everyone wants privacy, no one will abandon a self contain for a corridor house sharing one toilet. When u have your toilet, you can spend more time in the shower, on the toilet seat, without having the thought of someone waiting to dethrone u.

Pertaining the high pitch roof, u know nigerians with this perception of I want mine to look like that of my neighbour, hence the upward trend in concrete fascia. I once used a simple flat roof for a friend, because I wanted to save cost, but he flared up, saying it wasn't aesthetically pleasing, if not for fact that he is my bosom friend, he would have given it to another person, I then introduced hip roof, he asked me to add dutch.

High pitch, low pitch roof has to do with choice, architects dance to the tune of clients, as long as it doesn't affect the ventilation & structural stability of the building...

we both have similar experiences. i can forgive the en suite but what's up with the concrete fascias? that thing gulps money with out serving any serious functional purpose and most clients are really don't have deep enough pockets to finance their fantasy but i have decided to do those as a standard part of my designs to avoid clients teaching me my job. the latest craze is sunken living rooms.

channels tv is a political tool of the APC, go to vanguard newspapers for a more balanced reporting.

EgunMogaji:
One of the constrains that I gave my Architect was no high pitched roofs, no roman pillars and arches. Oh yeah also no ensuite galore

it all depends on taste and life style. i think like you but i design to the clients requirement. if you're an architect trying to make a living, you would quickly learn to design to such conventions instead of arguing with your clients.

two irrelevant posts and paid APC e~rats are jumping up and down like monkeys. the north is destroying this country gradually but they should remember it's a similar lobsided government that gave rise to ISIS in iraq.

spyder880:
I know an extractor fan they use in mostly stuffy rooms, or in industrial locations to drive away foul air, this could be inverted to provide ventilation, converted electrically to be powered from the inside of a safe room by battery.

I'll contact you later, thanks a million.

spyder880:
Just to add an idea here, how about adding an escalator fan or two, probably battery powered from inside to help keep the safe room airy in case of a long siege?

how can this be done in Nigeria?

podosci:
There is already a cheaper and better material alternative to wood, and that's polysterine material.Its used for partition and non load bearing walls....The polysterine can also be used for rib slab. A company in Abuja is into polysterine production
Another alternative is Bamboo which can be found in abundance in the SW and part of the SE....The is a great material advocate for cheap affordable housing.
Countries around the world evolve to solve their needs based on available resources, Its time Nigeria evolves to solves it's needs based on our most abundant natural elements

call me when you know a company making a cheaper and better alternative to roofing timber.

EgunMogaji:
Teach your kids about guns so they'll respect it.

I want my child, when of age, to be able to shoot and very well.

my dad is a gun enthusiast and thought me how to operate gun at a very young age, funny enough i don't i don't know how to do that now. i would really like to learn how to hunt with guns and those large local species of dogs but I'm too conscious of what people would say.

EgunMogaji:
As well as fire, etc

Occupants of ill prepared safe rooms have been known to be smoked out of hiding.

concrete is largely fire proof, a normal fire could easily be put out with fire a extinguisher from the kitchen store while a Fulani setting the house on fire(it's actually their favourite strategy) won't be too effective since the whole room is encapsulated in concrete with the roof been a six inches thick reinforced concrete slab. you need to understand that in Nigeria we don't design those things because of fire or tornados/hurricanes rather i want to develop the expertise in it due to the security challenges in this country especially here in the north.