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@val_dee, his own post said that the prevailing age then was 12-13yrs In the middle east which is way higher than 9yr that aisha was when she was penetrated. The guy don't even read his own posts. Most ppl start primary school between 6-7yrs. So if aisha was alive today she will be a nursery 3 or primary 1 pupil when she was married and primary 2 or 3 pupil when she was enjoyed by muhammed. The op article even said that she took her dolls with her when she was taken to his house in order to play with it when the prophet was not handling her. Clearly this also shows that the said age is true. Besides this is not an argument, it generally accepted by islamic scholars worldwide. Look at the north where so many girls are suffering from a medical condition caused by early pregnancy. As tintingz posted himself, muhammed action was what caused this cultural norm for muslims worldwide till today.

@tintingz, ur d one that posted that mary died a virgin, i only pointed it out. This clearly shows that u don't even read ur own posts. Also u posted that the culture then in that region was against such an early marriage,yet ur trying to argue the opposite. Dude stop copying and posting thrash here. Almost all your posts are against u. Attacking israeli kings is meaningless too. Face the topics. And pls stop using insultive words against ppl. Is that what ur religion teacher u?

@tintingz, that your last long post was actually proving that muhammed defiled aisha at 9 and mary was atleast 16 when she became pregnant. It also proved that she died a virgin. Infact that post destroyed all your previous attempt to make an argument. SERIOUSLY, YOU DON'T EVEN READ YOUR OWN LONG POSTS BEFORE YOU COPY AND POST THEM AND YOU EXPECT US TO BE READING IT. Nawah 4 u o

Tintinz, ur intentionally dodging d answer and ruining the thread with long irrelevant quotes. What we know for sure how ever is that leading islamic scholars accepts the op post and even issue fatwa based on it. I'm leaving u to ur conscience to take the best spiritual decision for yourself. May the almight God grant u the wisdom and strength to achieve salvation for your soul. I pray through jesus christ our lord amen. Be blessed

^^ my friend stop boring us out with long irrelevant posts. Stop attacking jewish prophets, we are christians not jews, if u want to compare, pls compare jesus to mohammed, besides i have explained several times that they were severely punished. My friend the op wrote with quotation that aisha father did not agree to the marriage proposal but was convinced by mohammed as how that is possible in their religion. That shows marrying of 6yrs to a 52yrs old man was NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THEIR CULTURE. For u to say that the hadith is lying is blasphemy, that hadith also contains the pillars of islam. It contains that aisha was 6yrs old and no other age was given. I'm using a cell phone now but i will post later tonight the fatwa issued by islamic scholars which declared that mohammed did not only marry aisha at that age but molested her by using his penes to rub on her private part to derive pleasure. Is that true or false? And stop calling me a bad muslim since i have posted it here that i'm a christian living in the north. Stop attacking the jewish prophets because not only are u ignorant about them,they are not relevant here nor is the jewish talmud or whatever, the op made all his quotation from the QURAN &HADITH, face the issues and refute or accept them not attacking jews. I will post more quotations and a fatwa later. Face the topics pls. The op used only the QURAN & HADITH. The only way u can refute the article is to deny that the books are not saying the truth. Face the issues pls,IRANIAN ISLAMIC SCHOLARS ACCEPT EVERYTHING WRITTEN ABOVE BY THE OP. Do u? Barka da ranna

^^ my friend the age of aisha was given in the hadith and was quoted by the op, also no other age was given in hadith or sira, see the op article, my friend the old prophets were severely punished for their sins, ur sounding ignorant. Leading religious leaders have never doubted aisha age and is on based in issuing a fatwa by iran supreme ruler ayotala khomeni who himself is married to a 12yrs old girl. I will also post the fatwa later today. It specifically said that mohammed did thighing with aisha by rubbing his pen is on her tigh to gain sexual pleasure. The reason being that she is was too small. Dude check ur posts, u have posted about 3 different age ranges for aisha, ur sounding delusional. Tell me any other place in the hadith another age was given. Sannu ka dai. Yaya jin dadi? Ekwu

misterme: I think I am beginning to dislike NL. What brought me to NL in the first place is the car section. I have learnt alot from the section. The manifest tribalism in NL these days is really disturbing. There are people who before they came to NL were perfectly normal individuals who were not conscious of tribal differences, at least not the negative ones and certainly had no hatred for other tribes. But stumbling on NL and seeing its agenda of promoting tribalism, have been converted and are now apostles of divisive tribalism. This disgusts me a lot.

i don't want to sound tribalistic but i think the yorubas are the main cause of tribalism here. Nairaland probable started as a place where a few yoruba friends shared gists and bashed other tribes while touting themselves as progressive. When the igbos came in and returned fire for fire, what u saw now is d result. Secondly if u have been long enough here, u would have noticed that igbos rarely visited yoruba threads but all the yorubas will congregate on any igbo thread to spread hate while seun and his moderators watch. So now it's t i t 4 t a t game. Besides all nigerians are tribalistic, it's just that we bottle it up in order to get along in the pursuit of our daily bread. An anonymous forum like nairaland enables ppl to show their true color. Awolowo said "nigeria is not a nation but a mere geopolitical expression. Atleast he was wiser than the one nigeria singing ZIK.

@tintingz, 1) u have accepted that mohammed molested a 6yrs old girl, have 13 wives among others 2) the attack u and ur mates are trying to make are laughable, all ur attacks are on jewish old testament bible prophets, if u mohammedans (followers of prophet mohammed) want to attack or make comparisons with we christians(followers of jesus christ), then compare mohammed to jesus christ, besides ur attacks on the jewish old testament prophets are lame, all the ppl u have called on this thread were punished severely for their sins. Solomon,david etc were all punished. I would advice u to start reading an english translation of the quran to see how messed up that book is, i will also advice u to read the holy bible to know the truth and be set free. Bless u my brother

LagosShia, i'm still waiting for u to defend ur religion, tell us if the hadith and quran are lying, that op post used the most reliable books of islam, for u 2 deny them would be to deny the very foundation of islam itself. I live in the north, and i know that an average muslim don't know anything in their holy books.

I just got a link on thighing, how u post will determine what i will expose on mohammed and islam practise on thighing. Be carefull. Expecting ur answer soonest.

@lagosshia, there is no other place in the hadith or sira that any other age was given, the materials u quoted on that thread was from an opposing islamic set it seems, if ur to reject the age given in the hadith, then u would have to reject all the teachings of the hadith including the pillars of islam. Op article made it clear that those of you that opposed the age would have to reject the entire hadith/sira itself. Besides many other issues were raised in the article, what's ur view on them? U should not single out where u think u can raise doubts.

^^ why did u post only one half of the story? Why not the full story that described how the fulani left the community at night shooting heavily to avoid a reprisal attack from vilage youths. This incident is isolated and not an attack on the community as is often witnessed in the southwest. Also the alleged crimes are are committed far from their make shit settlements. I know that the indigenes won't fold their hands, i studied at unn, and i knew what happened when their killed an nsukka woman working on her farm in benue state(igala land), youths from one village(not even one town) invaded them and slaughtered a lot of fulani and their cows. The enugu ppl will treat this mess quietly and u would never hear it in the newspaper. I know cos i studied there.

The fulani herdsmen fled the community at night but i don't think this is over for them yet.

Glad to see this thread again, @op, solomon did not dictate a maximum of 4 wives for his religious followers while he takes as many as 13, solomon lived what he preached while mohammed lived against what he preached. Also king solomon's lust for women is what made him to abandon God leading to God punishing him and his generations yet unborn by dividing israel into two kingdoms. His family only ruled two tribes cos of God's love for his father while another family ruled the remaining ten kingdoms. Honestly u can't call that a blessing for being a womanizer.

Why was the thread titles prophet mohammed was a womaniser-quran moved from the political section to the islam for muslims section while threads with titles like sheikh gumi this or that is allowed on the political section? Even a thread on how to check ur waec result have been in the political section till now, is the op a muslim or is the readers and posters there all muslims? This is a clear case of abuse giving the speed at which the thread was moved. It was deliberately moved there to die a natural death from non visibility. I respectfully beg u guys to quickly move it back to the political section where it belonged so that all and sundry can read and comment on it. This website is supposed to be a business and no business will thrive for long with this type of abuse of power so it's also in ur best interest to move it back to the political section where it belong so that it can generate the traffic u need. Thanks as i expect it's quick replacement on the political section.

What an animal, he should be subjected to counselling while in prison.

U deserve to be shot for making me waste my credit. Idiot

And where is the nigerian embassy officials to provide him with the needed legal and political cover? If a malaysian is caught defrauding a banker in nigeria, will our police even charge him as long as he is a white? another to get a foreign passport

Pdp is intricately connected to boko haram. The very day we get rid of pdp, that would be the beginning of our liberation.

Pls, I will post it later in the day. I'm writing from onitsha, specifically under the nepa office gra. Are u a nepa staff?

I use to buy #2000 recharge credit every 2 months but just this last month i have bought the same amount twice yet last night my meter tripped off and i discovered that my credit have been exhausted. Whats your experience with the new electricity tariff. I'm using the so called computerized meters.

The criteria is obtaining a first class honours degree in science,engineering and economics and i don't expect the north to present much candidates giving the backward nature of education there. The gombe state governor said sometime ago that only 16ppl in the whole state passed waec/neco, and common sense dictates that few if any of them will pass jamb/post ume exams. The truth is that the north is used to financial hand outs and not competing for anything. Their state governors have no interest in public education while most of the students are more interested in marriage. The former governor of the same gombe state is currently facing trial with the state universat basic education head for embezzling 7.5 billion naira given to them by the federal government. The current governor is insisting that gombe university should be included among the recipients of the basic education intervention fund. All this cycle shows their sense of expecting hand outs and non competition. The most annoying thing is that despite all this hand outs, the money is simplely embezzled and their situation continues to deteriorate. As a youth copper in the north, i noticed that 99% of all the teachers in the north were youth coppers often teaching what is totally unrelated to their area of study. Many if not most of the teachers can't even speak english. The question begging to be answered is why can't the state governments employ qualified teachers from the south? Or any where. That alone will change the nature of education in the north. The only solution to the north educational backwardness is to eliminate the youth service scheme. On the other hand, i think many or most of this recipients are products of private universities which to me is a bad idea. The way private universities are dishing out first class and 2.1 in sciences, engineering and economics is suspect giving that this schools is clearly suffering from lack of lecturers,equipments and are still struggling to establish themselves. I was complaining about my alma mater when a youth copper from one of this unknown private universities told me her own story, i just kept quiet. I don't want any of this recipients to disgrace 9ja abroad. They should have looked for a system for removing the chaff from the wheat.

The 40 laptop squad have invaded nairaland with bakare and el rufai being their current project. The said group is a fly by night non entity that shouldn't even be published by any news media worth it salt. U guys should stop making nairaland more dull than it is already. As for karl max, many national leaders and kings in israel were prophets and kings. Besides u don't deserve to bear that name going by the way u reason. Pls read up on karl marx works or change id. I don't hold brief 4 anybody but i'm tired of all this lame propaganda going on daily here.

These guys should go and buy land and build their markets as other traders are doing at onitsha. How can they expect the governor to buy land and build a market 4 them when he has not done it for the indigenes? Besides this their we have been here since 1803 argument is the basis of the current mayhem in plateau so they should not start it with us cos that will only lead to serious problems 4 them. The state government should also be assertive with them since they have resorted to cheap blackmail and street rioting to coerce the indigenes into submission. Besides i can authoritatively prove that most hausa ppl in onitsha are from the republics of niger and chad and should be deported on the prevailing security risk they portend

Cyber space propaganda. Since i was born, i have been hearing that nigeria electricity generation is increasing and black outs will soon be a thing of the past. The truth is that electricity generation improves during the rainy reason and falls during the dry season. The small improvement noticed now is because the lakes at the hydropower stations contain more water now and once we enter the dry season, we will loose all that extra output. They is no cause for celebration. Besides poorly administrated distribution networks mean that it's not all nigerians that gain from the momentary increase.

My dad does not like narrating his war time stories but from what i overheard him discussing with other adults, i guess it was a very ugly experience 4 him. He was an apprentice mechanic when onitsha was attacked and he trekked all d way 2 his maternal parents home at ideani. Angered by d needless burning of d main market, he volunteered for d army but was rejected due 2 being underaged, he got a free ride 2 a far recruitment point but was rejected again on d same reason, how ever he was able to convince them to include him in the army scout as a spy. He eventually joined d regular army near d end of the war and suffered an artillery shock commonly known as shelling shock in biafra. That got him out of active service but he was unable to go home. When d war ended he was coming back from morning mass that morning and discovered that d biafran army have surrendered, discarded their uniforms and gone home, but he only have his uniform 4 clothes so he solicited for a change of clothes ppl aroue and took up employment as a labourer locally. I wont narrate some of the things he saw during d war but i can't understand why d christian middle belt would fight their own own brothers who have co-existed with with them peacefully for centuries. As for my mother they have to abandon their car in the middle of the road when onitsha was attacked and trekked all the way to their village as children. Their father have d forsight of bringing lots of drugs from his store when d war entered onitsha. He hid through out d war, his wife indulged in d attack trade, but when rumour spread that d hausas have entered awka and the trade route closed. The family wept 4 days thinking she was among d traders killed. She resurfaced after a few days to their great joy and that ended her attack trade. They spent d rest of d war feeding on rats,lizards, cassava leaves, caritas rations of salt and salty fish etc. They lost no body to the war. All of them eventually established successfull businesses after d war at onitsha and recouped all they lost.

@jamace, nice answer to that jihadist

Biafra will likely be a confederation between the igbo state and south south and middle belt states. The Edos wont go with d yoruba cos they have a bitter experience with them during d south western region and they wont stand as a single niger delta state cos they will be over ran by the bigger states either for oil or for strategic military reasons as biafra was forced to do during d war thus they are better off forming a niger delta state under d confederation of biafra. The middle belt need to join d confederation of biafra cos of strategic military reason. They would be invaded by the boko haram arewa jihadists if they stand alone and they need the igbos and south south to give them the educated work force, oil and gas and access to d sea they need to prosper as well as to scare arewa from invading them. Not a bad map, i'll fill it away till 2015