₦airaland Forum

OLASODE2K: It is a pity this faruk is, unfortunately, as ignorant as every other mallam on the street. Everybody who is able to take his/her time to read through the several literatures on the biafran war knows that the whole part of the present day niger delta, which bayelsa is part of, was captured by the famous third marine division under Col Benjamen Maja Adekunle. I don’t know if the black scorpion has changed his state of origin from Ogbomosho [oyo state] to maybe kano just as faruk is trying to portray. Secondly, it is also a known fact that without the Yoruba joining the northerners to ensure a swift victory, it is quite likely the ibos would have defeated the north then because they werent doing so bad in the war against the north until the arrival of the third division which worsen their chances. It is quite interesting that the third division was heavily composed of Yoruba students, artisans, prisoners etc who were given a three-week crash course and thrown into battle six months after the other two hausa-led and populated divisions were fighting hard to find their footing in the war. The northerners were loosing to the ibos as a direct result of massive lack of discipline, use of massed infantry phalanx attacks against ibo machine guns, lack of coordination and poor leadership. They were also fighting a modern war with Uthman Dan Fodio tactics and strategy. The is that the Adekunle division was the youngest and with the highest density of ill trained, poorly experienced yoruba troops but they were willing to learn the hard way on the battlefield. Despite all these frightening limitations, they were able to capture all their assigned sector in record time while the other two hausa led divisions were fighting for survival from extinctions and still went to capture umuahia, owerri and aba which was initially supposed to be captured by the first division under Col Shuwa which was by far was made up of the best trained and most experienced soldiers hausa soldiers of the prewar professional soldiers.
The Adekunle third marine commando division was the last of the three divisions the federal government fielded during the war but was captured more territory from the ibos than the combined territory captured by these called northern professional divisions-first division uner Col Shuwa and second division under Col Murtala Muhammed.
Fellow nairalanders, such was the awesome military northern prowess the faruk cabal wants us to fear. Pls tell him that he the numbers he is quoting wont help him if the just one Yoruba division was able to outperform their vaunted two divisions when they were even least prepared. A word is enough for the wise.

Why spam the entire forums with these lies and half-truths?

Katsumoto: You are old enough to know that victory in war goes to commanders. Who did Biafra surrender to and who was responsible for the final offensive that ended the war? Obasanjo

Who was responsible for capturing most of the Biafran towns and was replaced because he got too popular with his victories? Adekunle

Did u say that Adekunle was replaced because he was too popular with victories? Aren't u tired of peddling lies?
Adekunle was replaced because he was disgraced by Colonel Joe 'Hannibal' Achuzia. He was thrown out of Owerri and sustained a heavy casualty in the process. Achuzia was threatening to reverse all Adekunle's earlier gains. Pls read Obasanjo's account of the situation report at the military camp at the time he took over in "My Command".

Katsumoto: Only Biafrans are taking Fani-Kayode seriously because you want to feed into his lies.

Now to the subject of who freed Awo, when will you lot stop peddling lies about freeing Awo? Awo was jailed by Balewa and Azikiwe; Ironsi failed to release Awo in his 7 months in power. Gowon released Awo on August 3, a few days after coming to power. We don't buy your obvious lies about Ojukwu freeing Awo.

Perhaps Ojukwu freed Awo, Gowon and Murtala just happened to be at the airport when the plane landed at Ikeja, and Murtala Mohammed was also coincidentally going to Ikenne and decided to give Awo a lift home.

lol, you must have some mental issues. So you are still proud to post this photo after you disgraced yourself in the other thread with it? That's why I remarked that you have no clear-cut line between decency and indecency. You can stoop so low to support your ridiculous assertion. We have debated the issue of the release of Awolowo in the other thread. Ojukwu boldly stated that he released Awolowo from Calabar prison in an interview conducted few years before his death. Provide your evidence that Gowon released Awolowo from prison deep into enemies territory? You provided your doctored interview with Awolowo. Now you want to flog your Goebbelian lies again on casual observers, hoping that it sticks. I wont allow u.

Katsumoto: So whats all this talk about starvation about?

Starvation only arose because
1. Biafra couldn't feed itself
2. Biafra was reliant on food from aid agencies because Ojukwu was winning the propaganda war
3. Biafra was using aid supplies as cover to smuggle in arms
4. Gowon demanded that aid supplies be delivered during the day and not night time so as to stop the importation of arms
5. Biafra was charging landing fees to aid agencies so that it could buy weapons
6. Biafra's refusal to have supplies inspected preferring to starve instead

One would think that with all this talk of starvation, Biafra was actually buying or making its own food; it wasn't.

Could Nigeria feed itself even up to this day? Nigeria relies on the importation of most food items to feed its populace. Did Biafra request for food aid from Nigeria? Again, provide an evidence that Ojukwu charges landing fee from aid agencies. Pls supply us with the account(s) from the aid agencies involved. Don't waste your time with your army of hack writers. Can u also support your assertion with a credible source that Biafra is using aid supplies as a cover to smuggle arms?

Katsumoto: Just observe at how all the Biafrans shamelessly ignored the issue of Ojukwu charging landing fees to aid agencies who were bringing in free food to feed starving Biafrans.[size=12pt][/size]

But they will not hesitate to blame Awolowo for starvation like Awo was the Minister for Agriculture in Biafra.

Pls provide the evidence from the Aid agencies involved. I wont accept 2nd or 3rd person's account

Katsumoto: Since it is obvious that you Biafrans know nothing about the Ilorin saga but prefer to run your mouths for mischievious reasons, I will educate you. Even though you are unlikely to accept it.


Afonja, the Aare Onakankafo who was based at Ilorin, rebelled against his cousin Alaafin Aole. Afonja had in his army Yoruba, Nupe, and Hausa slaves (Gobirawa). Afonja invited Alimi, a Muslim scholar who was well known in Yorubaland, to Ilorin so as to fortify himself against the Alaafin. Afonja aligned with Solagberu, the leader of Yoruba Muslims at Oke Suna (you ignorant dunces need to know that there were Muslims in Ilorin even before the Fulani). Afonja was a tyrant who ruled with terror. The people at Ilorin appealed to ALimi to help rid them of Afonja. Alimi's son, Abdusalam, would later murder Afonja with the help of Afonja's troops and Solagberu and invite the flag of Gwendu. There was no battle to take Ilorin. And that is why Ilorin till today still has a Yoruba majority.

Check my signature. I wont take your account till I research on the topic. You so are fond of revisionism that I take your account with caution

Rhino.5dm:
Why don't you comment on that letter?

Who wrote the letter? I think u deserves brain transplant.

Katsumoto: Starvation is not an issue in war because your enemy is not expected to have a feeding policy for you. Once you fcu.king run out of food, you are expected to surrender. Laying siege is an old tried and tested war strategy. If you don't know that, then go and educate yourself.

Mr. Man!
Is starvation an acceptable tactics of war? Did Biafra ask for food aid from Nigeria?

Rhino.5dm:
Below is the letter from Ojukwu displaying his love for south west. Read and tell why should any sane person support these greedy fools.



if this is not occupation of our land then what?

Rhino.5dm:
Even after reading what Ojukwu said, you still call that liberation? So, after the "rescuing", what stops you guys from returning to you country? Lmao

The fist time am laughing on this thread. The Biafrans will still dictate our future,according to Ojukwu. Hmm. Tell me the difference between the occupation by Hausa/Fulani with this new one being proposed by Ojukwu.

The letter of Ojukwu is still up there, I'd expect you to keep mute if you have a single atom of shame.

Seems u are brain-damaged

Katsumoto: Please give us a detailed account; we are waiting. Don't disappoint please, we are begging.

Pls read my comment again Mr. Comprehension

Katsumoto: Do you have a problem with reading? Is reading your taboo?

If you read the links I kindly provided, you would have seen the names of two agencies listed. I am going to stop responding to you because you are very daft. I can't be wasting my time trying to educate you.

Mr. Comprehension, can u provide an evidence from the agency involved? I can't accept 2nd or 3rd person account.

Katsumoto: I have asked severally and I will do so again.

When was Ilorin conquered, and how?

I am maintaining that Ilorin was never conquered, now convince me it was.

Put up or shut up.

C'mon shut up!
Ilorin was conquered by the fulanis. Afonja invited fulanis to help him prosecute an internal power tussle. Afonja and his fulani backers emerged victorious. Fulanis later assasinated the Yoruba ruler in a coup and replaced him with an emir. Forced his subjects to convert to Islam. It's just that I'm not interested in that part of history. If not I would have given u a detailed account of what transpired from the historians. Seems like u argue for pleasure.

Katsumoto: Very typical; blame others but not yourselves. No one has any business fighting a war if it can't feed itself. Your leaders are to blame for the deaths. Ojukwu is responsible for the deaths.

Did Stalin lose the war? Do Russians bi.tch like biatches about 27 million russians who died during the war? Are Russians blaming Germans today? No, because they fcu.king moved on.

So starvation of civilians is now an acceptable way to prosecute war? My dear, starvation is a war crime and you should be ashamed that your hero's name is associated with this ugly practice. Only war criminals consider starvation of civilians as legitimate instrument of war. BTW, did Biafra request for food aid from Nigeria?

Katsumoto: Deal with the issue?? What have I been doing since I started posting on this thread? You mean none of the numerous posts I made dealt with the issue?

In any case, I am not changing the subject; the post is very relevant in light of the usual stu.pid blaming of others of the deaths of Biafrans through starvation.

What do you have to say about Ojukwu charging landing fees to agencies that were bringing food supplies to starving Biafrans?

You've started to inundate us with your lies again.
Ojukwu's letter to Banjo. . .Busted as forgery.
Ojukwu's letter to Awolowo. . . Busted as forgery.
Yoruba enlisted to fight against the Igbos after the midwest invsion. . . Busted as lie.
Now, Ojukwu charged landing fees to aid agencies.
How long will u continue to disturb our eardrums with your cacophony of lies?
Pls can u name the aid agency involved and when it happens? Don't waste your time with the works of hack writers.

Katsumoto: It has been alleged that 3 million Igbos died during the war. Most of those that died, did so from starvation. How could 3 million die from starvation? Were the leaders so wicked that they couldn’t surrender when they couldn't feed their citizens? Yet Igbos would blame everyone but themselves for these unnecessary deaths.

After 3 years of intermittent fighting, because Ojukwu was winning the propaganda war, Ojukwu would escape dressed like a woman (according to Madiebo the Biafran commanding officer). Was there no honour amongst the Biafran high command? Whatever you may say about the Nigerian leaders in Lagos, they weren’t seeing women and children starve to death everyday.

Instead Biafran soldiers fed fat while children died. Ojukwu charged landing fees to charities that were bringing in food supplies and medicine.

See links below

http://books.google.com/books?id=KdHciuXcVscC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=biafra+landing+fees&source=bl&ots=CQIrUgq9jU&sig=Ha0KWeH-q99ghnUycLrs-qyKms0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nGkqUPAXiqD1BNzugegN&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=biafra%20landing%20fees&f=false


http://books.google.ca/books?id=xNdZnPXsKN4C&pg=PA118&lpg=PA118&dq=ojukwu+landing+fees&source=bl&ots=U0QWusPREr&sig=9WDvOyotwYg5MOqR5IOEzbXF5fw&sa=X&ei=82gqUNayI4T49QSQtYCwBw&sqi=2&ved=0CBAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ojukwu%20landing%20fees&f=false

So what point are u trying to make with these your incoherent comments? How many Yorubas escaped to exile during June 12 saga? Do u know that many of them dressed like cocoa farmers to cross the border to Benin republic? Even the acclaimed winner couldn't stay back and fight for his mandate.
Who should be blamed for the starvation? Ojukwu or Gowon or Awolowo? When you implements coldblooded policy like that, u should know that civilians will be hard-hit. Fighters only surrenders when u defeats their will to fight. Not when u targets their civilians. Did Stalin surrender in the face of mass starvation of his subjects? No!
I'm amazed that you blames Ojukwu for Gowon-Awolowo coldblooded policies during the war. You should be ashamed of it to say the least.

OLASODE2K: fani kayode is very right. it baffles us as yorubas when a simpleton wants to claim our glory less than 50yrs when we saved the north from imminent defeat. wonders shall never end. i wont be surprised if faruk claims that general olusegun obasanjo is from maiduguri. such is the level of their ignorance. It is a pity this faruk is, unfortunately, as ignorant as every other mallam on the street. Everybody who is able to take his/her time to read through the several literatures on the biafran war knows that the whole part of the present day niger delta, which bayelsa is part of, was captured by the famous third marine division under Col Benjamen Maja Adekunle. I don’t know if the black scorpion has changed his state of origin from Ogbomosho [oyo state] to maybe kano just as faruk is trying to portray. Secondly, it is also a known fact that without the Yoruba joining the northerners to ensure a swift victory, it is quite likely the ibos would have defeated the north then because they werent doing so bad in the war against the north until the arrival of the third division which worsen their chances. It is quite interesting that the third division was heavily composed of Yoruba students, artisans, prisoners etc who were given a three-week crash course and thrown into battle six months after the other two hausa-led and populated divisions were fighting hard to find their footing in the war. The northerners were loosing to the ibos as a direct result of massive lack of discipline, use of massed infantry phalanx attacks against ibo machine guns, lack of coordination and poor leadership. They were also fighting a modern war with Uthman Dan Fodio tactics and strategy. The truth is that the Adekunle division was the youngest and with the highest density of ill trained, poorly experienced yoruba troops but they were willing to learn the hard way on the battlefield. Despite all these frightening limitations, they were able to capture all their assigned sector in record time while the other two hausa led divisions were fighting for survival from extinctions and still went to capture umuahia, owerri and aba which was initially supposed to be captured by the first division under Col Shuwa which was by far was made up of the best trained and most experienced soldiers hausa soldiers of the prewar professional soldiers.
The Adekunle third marine commando division was the last of the three divisions the federal government fielded during the war but was captured more territory from the ibos than the combined territory captured by these called northern professional divisions-first division uner Col Shuwa and second division under Col Murtala Muhammed.
Fellow nairalanders, such was the awesome military northern prowess the faruk cabal wants us to fear. Pls tell him that he the numbers he is quoting wont help him if the just one Yoruba division was able to outperform their vaunted two divisions when they were even least prepared. A word is enough for the wise.

I will allow u to hyperventilate today. But don't expect me to give u a pass next time if you churn out these of lies and half-truths.

afam4eva: @Mr.chippychappy
I'm forced to agree with you that Igbos should fold their arms and watch a duet between the Northerners and the south-south, but don't you think that Igbos and south-southIjaws have been intertwined that it will be very difficult for it not to affect the Igbos. Don't forget that there's a huge indegenous Igbo population in the south-south. Don't also forget that the Efik/Ibibios who were our best friends during the war are also in the south-south. Don't also forget that the south-east Igbo population in the south-south is one of the largest. So, we're gonna be affected just as much as the south-southerners. I foresee a situation where other south-south groups that have been following Ijaws like 1diots as south-south aka Niger Delta will denounce their Ijaw brothers and be looking for new alliances. This is going to be a blockbuster movie with all the intrigues and betrayals. Let's watch and see how events will unfold.

Fixed

Katsumoto: I see where you are going.

The list I supplied refers to trained soldiers and not the rag-tag forces that included untrained Biafrans who joined to fight. Surely, no one is arguing that Ndigbo couldn't find more than 10,000 people to fight a war of survival.

The point is that Biafra did not make a majority either before or during the war.

lol, you are a very funny chap with a funny debating style. It's better u lay credence to your assertion that Biafran troops will be surrounded at Ibadan. You must tell me the size of the Biafran invading forces before we will tackle your careless assertion that they will be surrounded at Ibadan. You can't just be throwing careless assertions and expect no challenge.

Katsumoto: In January 1966, there were approximately 10,500 men in the Nigerian armed forces. Out of the 10,500, the Yoruba and contributed a mere 6% approx, while the North produced 54% and Igbo (including mid-western) produced 30%.


So even without the Yoruba, the North had more soldiers than the East.

Sources
Robin Luckham - The Nigerian Military: A Sociological Analysis of Authority and Revolt 1960-67
Norman Miners - The Nigerian Army 1956 - 1966

At the end of the July 1966 coup, approximately 200 Igbo soldiers were killed.

Thank you! Now the debate can progress faster.
So what's troop strength of the Biafran forces that invaded the midwest?

Katsumoto: You think Biafra had more men and arms?

Pls answer my question. You made the assertion. Then I asked u a question based on your assertion. Why are u this chameleonic?

^

Katsumoto: Even in the early days of the war, Biafra was outgunned and outmanned. Ojukwu could only spare 5000 to 'take' Lagos. Banjo realised the folly of his task and sought the easy way out for the aforementioned reason and because he was Yoruba and knew the implication of marching on Yoruba soil.

Despite Obasanjo's refusal to agree to the request, did the Biafran force return home? Were they not defeated at Ore and chased all the way back over the Niger by Murtala?

In case, you also failed to realize another reason for the request, the Biafran force would have been surrounded by troops from Ibadan if it actually made it to Lagos.

Pls can u tell us the strength of the Nigerian armed forces prior to and during the midwest invasion?
I mean the number of men carrying arms. Stop spewing rubbish here.

Abagworo: I'm happy that a little truth has been revealed in the past few weeks. Since I started reading about the war, I often wondered why Biafran forces allegedly invaded the Mid-West and West but these recent revelations proves that Biafra never invaded the Midwest but rather a faction of Nigerian army led by a Yorubaman and Igbo foot soldiers wanted to topple the Government and end the massacre of people across the country. Obasanjo did wrong by betraying them.

Yes!
Whenever we take some positions in these debates, you Igbo youths should know that we are not crazy. We try to educate you guys at times, but it seems like Yoruba propaganda in you has gone far. I wont blame you cos I was once like you. I thank God that u are hearing the truth from the non-Igbo actors in the civil war. Pls try to read books from Northern authors to get a clearer perspective on what transpired before, during and after the civil war. Don't base your primary source of information on internet articles by Yoruba writers or Yoruba-leaning writers alone.

Katsumoto: You are a big fool; Northerners required a one mile corridor to the sea?? Were the Northerners not in charge in Lagos? Is Lagos not a seaport or perhaps Lagos wasn't by the sea in 1967.

The westerners and the mid-westerners joined the war because Biafra invaded their territories. Is that so difficult for you lying dumd mofos to understand?

Stop masking the truth my dear.
In the events leading to the war, Awolowo sent a delegation to meet Gowon. The delegates demanded that northerners pull their forces out of Oduduwa territory. The northerners responded by saying that they will withdraw their forces back to Offa(where they recognised as the boundary between the north and the west). They also demanded for one mile corridor to the sea. Awolowo and his crew chickened out in the face of this northern intimidation. This is a fact. You can't twist it. Northern troops having control of the capital and the west is immaterial in this discussion.

Katsumoto: Just look at this dunce's tactics. You challenged me on some phantom threads and I ignored you. Why not challenge me now bloody mofo? Let me guess, you don't have time today or you need to consult the library in your grandmother's village like you stated in the other thread where you claimed that NCNC won the 1951 election in the west?

You've used this tactics on me before. You are well aware that it never worked. Whenever u are challenged, you'll resort to condescending languages or personal attacks or bragging of mastery of English comprehension. But you wont distract me.

Mr. Katsumoto, SHOW US EVIDENCE THAT AWOLOWO OFFERED ZIK THE TOP JOB IN A COALITION GOVERNMENT AND ZIK REFUSED.

Katsumoto: The problem with some Igbo sons is that they believe they are smarter than others. Zik reneged on several agreements with Awo pre-independence, Zik was part of the government that jailed Awo, yet Awo should have supported Biafra.

It is important to contextualize Awo’s actions before and during the Civil war. To do so accurately, one must scrutinize the actions of all parties pre-Independence, post-Independence, and pre-Civil war.

In 1957, the Governor-General, Sir James Robertson, gave the three regions the choice of self-autonomy and independence but it had to be a majority decision. Awo voted for independence for the Western Region, Ahmadu Bello said the North wasn't ready for self-governance and would prefer to remain under British rule. Zik voted to put off Independence for the Eastern region, preferring to wait for the North to be ready. Zik had the choice of a country for the Eastern region but he wanted Nigeria at all cost. Similarly, at the same constitutional conference in London, Awo wanted a secession clause inserted into the constitution but Zik and Bello refused. Guess who would later want secession.

Now fast forward to the general election in 1959. The North won the most seats in the house. Awo offered to join a coalition with Zik, with Zik as Prime Minister (the PM had the real power) but Zik preferred to form a coalition with the North and accepted a redundant position as Governor-General with no real powers.
When Zik aligned with the North in 1959, guess who got most of the ministerial and administrative positions allocated to the South? Yes, you guessed it, the Igbos. The Yorubas and other Groups were left on the sidelines until Akintola broke away from the AG with the help of who? Zik and Okpara who thought that Akintola would defect to their party but played a fast one by preferring to form his own party and aligning with the North. Now when the situation of the Igbo changed with Akintola joining Balewa's government with positions held by Igbo now going to Akintola's supporters, what do you think happened next? Coup by Igbo officers.

In 1962, there were problems in the Western Region between Awo and Akintola who both belonged to the Action Group. Akintola was sacked but due to actions of NCNC (Zik's Party) members, the removal of Akintola wasn't effected. Balewa and Zik imposed a state of emergency on the West because of chair throwing in the Western House yet there were no states of emergency in the North and East for far more violent actions on the streets there (the TIV crisis and the Okrika riots). Awo was subsequently jailed on trumped up charges.

Now after the imprisonment of Awo, Zik thought that his party NCNC would take control of the Western region but Akintola decided to form his own party (NNDP) rather than join the NCNC. In the elections of December 1964, NNDP took control of the Western region. The NCNC cried that elections were rigged. According to Fazil Ope-Agbe (Akintola's right hand man), the ensuing mayhem in the West was sponsored by Okpara and Zik. With the AG in retreat, NCNC calculated that if Akintola's party fell apart, the NCNC would be in a position to pick the pieces. This is not far-fetched considering Zik's antecedents in the West.

With Akintola holding firm, NCNC didn't gain the advantage it sought. One year later, a group of officers who were predominantly Igbo, executed a coup that eliminated leading politicians and officers from the North and West. Despite the murder of these Northern and Western leaders, the Northerners, who were senior partners in the coalition with the East, picked another leader, Dipcharima, to replace Balewa. The East, even though it was the junior partner, had selected Madiwe. When the North refused to budge to this proposal, Nwafor Orizu, chose to handover to Aguiyi-Ironsi another Igbo man and in the process, Nigeria’s nascent democracy was truncated.
Awo was imprisoned on trumped up charges by the Balewa/Zik government and thrown in prison. Awo wrote to Ironsi in March 1966 requesting to be released from prison but was obviously ignored. Awo would later be released from prison by Gowon and driven home in Murtala Mohamed’s car. Despite his time in prison and his political difficulties with Zik/okpara, Awo would assume the role of a statesman and try to find a solution to the impasse between the North and the East. That speech by Awo to the Western regional house was a very noble one. Awo would also travel to Enugu to advise Ojukwu against armed conflict.

So putting all these into consideration, would any sane person expect Awo to simply just follow the East in a secession bid? Awo's loyalty was to his people. He did what he felt was best for his people concerning the circumstances. Despite all that, Awo advised Ojukwu not to go to war. When Awo offered to organise a meeting with Northern officers, Ojukwu replied, 'On the specific question of whether there is a possibility of contract with the North, the answer is at the battle field.'

Shattap there!
I'm amazed that u continues to repeat this your Goebbelian lies. I've challenged u in one of the threads to provide evidence of your lies. But you conveniently ignored me

Katsumoto: Can you read at all? Did you miss my attack on Fani-kayode? Like a dunce, you jump with both feet and run into an uppercut.

Did you miss this? Ok, I am Fani-Kayode in real life but I signed into NL to attack myself. No wonder Biafra went to war and lost.

Stop decieving yourself my dear. Characters like you has no clear-cut line between decency and indecency

Obiagu1: I hope you challenge Fani Kayode and not us.

Fani-Kayode = Katsumoto

Can't u notice the pattern? See how he suddenly appeared from the blues.

This Fani-Kayode is a God-forsaken revisionist. I suspect that he is a nairalander with Katsumoto handle. Cos both of them regurgitates the same bullshyt

CyberG: Stop talking up a BIG game when you are the one who will betray the entire South in a heartbeat with your tribalism! No doubt, in a real war situation involving the northern hausa/fulani (and any collaborators) and an army of the southern parts of Nigeria, they will surely get crushed! Do I want millions of Nigerian people (10 M) or more to be killed? NEVER! But the divide and conquer methods have worked for so long because of people like you who use tribalism to drive a wedge between peoples you are now calling for them to unite under a single flag to fight a war!

When will u learn to face the message instead of attacking the messenger? It's because of small-minded folks like you that north walks with so much swagger in the south today. When will u learn to look at the big picture? Finally, why can't u sound intelligent for once?

alj harem: the 3 way war. for naija yorubas would say elemi lo ma last, or hausas jimiri, a ranar karshe

well there you have

Northern Muslims should trend carefully. Pride comes before a fall.

I have told the yorubas the same during the OPC madness as well.

Alj harem is back! Check out my profile for thread started in your honour