₦airaland Forum

chemali:
ada, you have come again with your rubbish claims.

what is with you this woman?

post here for all to see the source/links supporting this your claim.

its not my job to read the news for you, if people dying of preventable illnesses in nigeria is of interest to you then click on the bbc webpage - it is there. its not like this is news anyway this story hit the headlines in the summer.

invisible - 85% of nigerians outside nigeria are not crooks - please restrict that percentage to the 85% of people in the circle of people u know and don't generalise. if the topic was the other way round u would not keep quiet about it and accuse those saying it as suffering from colo mentality

and thanks for the advice I will go and sleep now since addressing some of the points raised here has nothing to do with the topic.

yawn, another naija v Diaspora topic

i mean really can't people just live their life and stop thinking one place is better than the other. If you think Nigeria is the best thing since sliced bread then say it but to insult those outside Nigeria just yells complex to me.

i mean come on - its now made international headlines that the people dying of cholera in Nigeria is the highest in 20 years and we are here talking of people cleaning toilet - so who cleans the toilets in Nigeria? the Lebanese or American expats - abeg!!

point being we have important things to be worrying about and not who is better or crooks

ur husband is not acting funny he is just plain mean.

Until our culture reminds men that they also have a part to play in making a marriage work then we will continue to have women beating up for no reason (yes there is NEVER a reason to beat up ur wife) and then people telling her to cook his favourite meal and ask him what is wrong. Are we women sub-human or something.

This woman is clearly unhappy and depressed but most people are asking her what she did as if u are forgetting how our men behave. Let me not start with my numerous stories to prove that a man can have a good wife at home but decides to cause all manner of problems in his marriage cos "culture" allows it.

Having scanned thru some of the replies i wonder why there has been little empahsis on why a 16 year old boy was out at 3.20am, say what u will even as a grown a** adult what would i be doing roaming the streets of newham at 3am in the morning.

Please remember London is not the whole of the UK and I think you will find a lot of Nigerian families over the past few years have moved out of "inner city" london to the suburbs or home counties to escape these kind of things. What people have to remember is its not entirely where you bring up your children its how, I know many well behaved children that were born and brought up in the UK and are very well behaved and done extremely well for themselves like wise many in Nigeria so its not always down to location.

i feel for the family honestly i do but like with the case of Ben kinsella I wonder why these kids parents allow them out so late.

I really don't think this is the place to be discussing naija v london as we all know that both have their own problems and its up to us as individuals where we want our children to be raised - i don't think anyone should be shouted at or rebuked if they have a preference.

u don't need to go into any deep village this is happening on a daily basis all over nigeria by men who are close to the family - this story made me throw up (no joke).

i feel for these young girls - just like that their innocence is taken from them so early. this so called father is a demon.

i'm not blaming the mother or anything but did she never check up on her daughter all these years?

IyaBasira:
Wait . . . you mean things like this still happen?

trust me things like this still happen - its not just here i know it happens in india and china as well.

and trust me in the next 5 years u will still here these stories on nairaland. and we wonder why we are not progressing.

half cast is offensive and is not used in 2010, its either bi-racial or mixed race.

I think its as offensive as calling me coloured

all the women are fine anyway.

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maedan:
Everyone on the judge's panel dyed their hair, trust me: Danii has gone lighter, even Loui has gone even more blond. As for Simon: lol, as Cheryl commented, his teeth are whiter so he dyed those too .


Hmmn, these oyibo guys like booty, too, it seems. Dermot was like, "Hate to see her go, love to watch her leave (a la Lil Wayne, lol). LOOOved her black leather dress (TreyC). Girl can sing!


One Direction: Sooo Cute! They need to sing a ballad soon, not all these noisy songs.

don't mind them - we have known this for a long time. they just pretend to like stick thin women like " I almost died from malaria" cheryl cole

LadyT:
Lol Dayo you keep trying to add things that are not relevant. At the end of the day if parents want to be lazy or work all the hours God sends and send their kids to boarding school or to live with other relations that's their headache but it takes two to make a baby so the decision should be mutual.
It's clear this guy is not being fair I suggest the uneducated as in regards to IVF should please read up on it. Or ask the mothers on here such as chairlover about her labour!

Fathers are important but you don't go thru what a woman goes thru so a little understanding is needed

my sister please tell them - IVF is not a small thing neither is carrying a child for 9 months.

gestapo:
I agree with Dayokanu on this issue, this was the same guy who stood by his wife for the 5 years she could not conceive, helped with the costly IVF procedure, donated his spermatozoa, rather than act like the typical Nigerian man and go and get another wife to replace her, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE IS EVIL AND HAS MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF HIS GENUINE CONCERN ABOUT HIS CHILDREN'S SAFETY AND FUTURE

And as for the daft bint comparing crime rate to that in Nigeria, is it not in UK that a child is either stabbed or subjected to a violent assault every 45 seconds in the UK by another child? Is it not in the UK that you can't send your child to the next postcode or street because he will be chased and shanked(stabbed) by his fellow children for tresspassing their territory?  Is this level of mindless violence available in Nigeria? And y'all can keep your head buried in the sand if you think this only happens in[b] Hackney, Peckham, Stratford[/b] . . ,

ha ha ha too funny - not all of us nigerians live in inner city areas, so like many other people in this country being exposed to this is not really something that keeps me up all night.

whether they discussed this or not b4 marriage things can change - nigeria of today is not what it was when these people where courting (about 10 years ago i assume) if the wife has now seen that Nigeria might not be the safest place for her children why is she now being branded a user - and none of us even know the effect being separated from their life in america will have on these children - children need stability and 5 is just too young for this kind of change.

I can only speak from the mother's point of view and for those saying the man should get a pat on the back for staying with the wife during 5 years of trying need to re-read what is said during a wedding ceremony, when u say for better for worse that is real, for better for worse does not have condition. This is something i hate about our culture - if this man lost his legs this woman would be expected to stand by his side - but if a woman has any small problem then wedding vows don't apply to a naija man cos he can "go and get a second wife".

i'm sure the man did his own share in the IVF process but if any of u know what a woman goes thru during that IVF process emotionally and physically u may understand why this woman in question is in no rush to send her precious twins to the village in Nigeria.

thats my 2 cents on this topic this morning

i don't see this story/situation ending well.

poster - the worse thing that should happen to ur friend is for that man to find a way to get those kids over to Nigeria - she is finished as soon as they land in Nigeria cos no amount of legal fees will listen to her to get those children back from naija.

and why is the man hung up on village life - i mean really in this day and age who dreams of their kids being brought up in the village - its not just about infrastructure - u will find that the mentality of people who live in the village is just something else. Not that anyone is saying America is heaven but why expose babies (yes 5 year olds are babies to me) to village life when they are used to the comfort of a developed world - i guess if the man has the money to provide all the comforts and infrastructure then he may have a case but like someone has mentioned here poverty has eaten so deep into society and shapes how many people behave. This is how the man will be sending $500 dollars every month and the kids not being able to speak for themselves will not see a cent of that money (i talk from experience).

The man should think wisely if mama is so hung up on instilling culture she should come to America - one does not need to live in Nigeria to know where they come from.

has anyone thought about how this will affect the children - something similar was done to me (i wasn't 5) and trust me based on my experience I WILL NEVER SEND MY CHILD TO NIGERIA TO STAY WITH ANY RELATIVE, i don't give a hoot who they are.

as for learning the culture and behaviour - give me a break - most of the girls i met at uni were practising one form of prostitution or another and i was called a "jew" girl for not knowing whats up, think my upbringing in the west was probably the best thing for me cos at least I have morals - like I have mentioned b4 if upbringing is so great in Nigeria why o why do we have so many social problems and crime - where these people shipped in from America to commit crime in Nigeria.

Let me not be calling this man names just yet - but how any man or mother in law thinks its ok to separate a 5 year old from a mother that spent 5 years looking for a child is just wicked.

mutter:
It really is not that that bad.
Most women are in so much pain because they panic and stiffen themselves up and fight against nature taking its cause.
You need to learn the right breathing techniques and then the pain is bearable and the experience is quite awesome.
I had all my kids naturally and quite honestly I did not find the pain unbearable. Remember that between contractions the pain goes away.
I think you need to get your self more informed about natural birthing.

every woman is different. many women i speak to tell me that childbirth is painful and I for one am not looking forward to it, but I have zoned my mind on the joy I will get after the pain.

as for me whatever is on offer I will take - in fact if a machine is invented in the next 2 months that allows the pain to be transferred to another human being I will happily sign up for that as well, if childbirth is more painful than this pregnancy i'm carrying abeg someone should just drug me now.

tensor777:
Exactly!! Sometimes I just wonder at the mentality of some people here. All this extreme all or nothing dogma.
Is it compulsory that you must live in places like hackney and peckham when there are perfectly good neighbourhoods in outer london and the surrounding shires??
And yes most faith schools in England are very good in terms of discipline and academics so you don't need to send your kids to expensive private schools either.

i totally agree, this who thing about gun crime and wot not are people suggesting there is no crime in Nigeria?

i still want to know why this man is insisting on village and not even lagos or abuja

LadyT:



America is such an awful place with running water, electricity and plenty food and love from mummy compared with the village in Nigeria with no water no electricity, no food that these babies will be used too exposure to harsh enviroment and no parent in sight to comfort them. You are foolish.

thank goodness someone else saw how strange this was

British banks warned to investigate customers more rigorously after watchdog reveals five took millions from corrupt Nigerian governors

The Financial Services Authority must enforce money laundering regulations more strictly after five British banks accepted millions of pounds from corrupt Nigerian politicians, a watchdog has warned today.

Global Witness believes that the five high street banks took the money between 1999 and 2005 from two former Nigerian governors accused of corruption, but had failed sufficiently to investigate the customers or the source of their funds.

The watchdog said that in failing to inform their clients, Britain's Barclays BARC.L, NatWest NWB-pa.L, Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) RBS.L and HSBC HSBA.L, and Switzerland's UBS UBSN.VX, might not have broken the law but had helped to fuel corruption in Nigeria.
RBS is one of five British banks who have been accused of handling 'dirty money' from two corrupt Nigerian former governors

RBS is one of five British banks who have been accused of handling 'dirty money' from two corrupt Nigerian former governors
HSBC hit back, saying: 'Rest assured, rigorous and robust compliance procedures were followed diligently. To ignore this is to ignore the facts'


HSBC said the allegations were 'misguided' while the four other banks and Britain's regulator, the Financial Services Authority (FSA), declined to comment.

'Rest assured, rigorous and robust compliance procedures were followed diligently,' a spokesman for HSBC said. 'To ignore this is to ignore the facts.'

Global Witness's 40-page report said: 'The FSA needs to do much more to prevent banks from facilitating corruption.

'As yet, no British bank has been publicly fined or even named by the regulators for taking corrupt funds, whether willingly or through negligence.

'This is in stark contrast to the United States, where banks have been fined hundreds of millions of dollars for handling dirty money.'

Former Nigerian governors Joshua Dariye (left) and Diepreye Alamieyeseigha (right) were accused of corruption and used British banks to hide their money

Global Witness said its findings were based on court documents from cases brought in London by the Nigerian government to get funds returned that it said had been stolen by two former state governors - Diepreye Alamieyeseigha of Bayelsa state and Joshua Dariye of Plateau state.

Alamieyeseigha was accused of corruption in 2005 when he was caught with almost a million pounds in cash in his London home, and was briefly jailed in Nigeria after pleading guilty to embezzlement and money laundering charges two years later.

Dariye was arrested in 2004 in London and was found to have purchased properties worth millions of pounds even though his legitimate earnings amounted to the equivalent of £40,000 a year.

He returned to Nigeria, where the anti-corruption agency has accused him of looting public funds, though he has denied wrongdoing.

Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation, is regularly ranked one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Most of its 150 million people survive on £1.50 a day or less, yet the country is one of the world's top champagne importers and its wealthiest residents are among Africa's richest.

The former head of its EFCC anti-corruption agency, Nuhu Ribadu, has estimated that corruption and mismanagement swallow about 40 percent of Nigeria's annual oil income.

'Without access to the international financial system, it would be much harder for corrupt politicians from the developing world to loot their treasuries or accept bribes,' the Global Witness report added.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319566/British-banks-warned-investigate-customers-rigorously.html#ixzz125CMIJAV

i am so fed up with this belief that kids brought up in nigeria are somehow better - sorry but its not where u bring up your kids its how. if the upbringing is so wonderful back home why is the society there just something else.

abeg if u can't instill morals in your kids in the west i doubt your going to do it where they will see all sorts of social ills back home. abi all the girls doing prostitution back home were shipped in from the UK and America right.

my dear poster as a soon to be mother - i would personally not allow it myself and i'm sorry even my own village that is considered a town is not the same as america, village life is a whole 360 degrees different from life in the west.

Mai Suya:
@chitney, here's your scriptural backing:
Here, expressed succinctly in The living Bible:



Emphasis mine

please read the whole passage and don't highlight the bit that suits u. someone sent me the below statement recently. I think God prefers acts of love and kindness to ur fellow humans that tithes.

The Scriptures teach that Christians should be diligent to provide for their families. Any Christian who is able to work but makes no effort to support his or her family is worse than an infidel. Jesus Christ Himself taught that a Christian should first provide for his or her family before using personal income for other purposes, including offerings to God. Jesus condemmed the Jews who gave offerings, or "corban," to the temple treasury while neglecting their needy parents. God does not want Christians to neglect the basic needs of their families in order to give tithes and offerings. Those Christians who have a limited income and are able only to meet their basic needs have no actual increase from which to tithe. God desires mercy and not sacrifice.

Cher Lloyd this is how to sing that song - its a shame the kids of today and pumped with so much rubbish these days - back in my day people who went on talent contests could actually sing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LGvHF9jjM

the mini crack head look alike cannot sing,

cher whatever her name as IS NOT 17 - I have a sister that is almost 17 and this cher girl looks like she is old enough to be my sister's mother.

Nonsense - she can't sing and should not try to rap, all that praise from the judges was just to cover their backs.

thank God people are starting to remember the nightclub incident cos i never did and my friends wonder why i don't like this chav that has been styled to look like a woman who has class, I don't care how many millions she has in the bank - she is a chav, her family do enough to remind us that she is one.

money don't buy class o!!

people saying she can't be racist cos she married ashley cole - abeg leave that one - does the man even know he is mixed race, let alone black. a black man marrying a racist white women - i have seen it all in this england.

i'm glad anyway that her criminal past has placed restrictions on the type of visa she is allowed to have when going to america - the girl is lucky and smart sha - beat up a black toilet attendant and marry a black man - hey presto no one can call her racist!!!!

as for Gamu - she should concentrate on her immigration issues b4 singing in any competition

Mr Cork or whatever ur name is - he is too funny - he is just too ridiculous to even be angry with

Kobojunkie:
I just watched one on America and the South side this morning. I later watched one on south American women (freedom fighters I think), and then I watched one on Iran, and then  there is one on now on Europe. Are you sure the whole of black Africa is all the focus is on?

i'm answering the people that asked about other african countries abeg.

the girl is now crying - abeg this doc is annoying me let me find something to do with my time - she should be asking where are these countries getting the arms to fight these wars.

for those asking why the BBC only does documentaries on Nigeria - well i'm watching one now on BBC3 about the Congo - not just naija my people o - the agenda seems to be the whole of black africa

anyway this stupid girl doing the documentary annoys me

looks like my last post was deleted.

anyway this has been in the news for ages. kids have been dying from this since january

u people have to realise that the type of people that tune into BBC2 do not experience the kind of life people in lagos experience, I don't know why some people just don't get it.

Do u really think someone living in their £1million town house in Hampstead will ever experience a police officer stopping their taxi cos the driver refused to drop N50. to them this is law and disorder.

don't knock it too much - i agree that the BBC need to stop with their negative stories of Nigeria but I think if we fixed ourselves up there wouldn't be anything for them to report. No one is going to the ghettos of London and putting the documentary on international TV with the title "The other London" trust me there are parts of London that are just frightening to walk around in.

thats my 2 cents for 2day.

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=526441.msg6892984#msg6892984 date=1286450532]400 people and CNN and BBC is not carrying it.

Looks like they ve known how cheap death is in Nigeria.[/quote]maybe because this is old news - CNN covered this in February/March this year. The reason it came to light is that when the immunisation programme was starting the medical people had no kids to vaccinate so they investigated. abeg it was the Nigerian government that was shamed into doing something about this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11478986

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-10/world/nigeria.poisons_1_poisoning-lead-cdc?_s=PM:WORLD

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/7804789/160-people-die-of-lead-poisoning-in-Nigeria.html

i think u should be asking why the NIGERIAN media have not made this a big deal.

hackney:
Mr-cock is back.
YIPEEEE! !  (NO OFFEINSE)

To be fair, if one does not have the appropriate permit then they
have no right to stay.
Not sure about the intricacies of stay or no stay but lets call a spade a spade.
chikena.

(though i wonder how makosi was let to stay despite being in a similar situation at the time)
not sure sha o.

that was under a Labour govt times are a changing now, anyway blame her mother - she should not have been claiming any benefit knowing she as under some sort of immigration restriction, and to top it of now followed her daughter on NATIONAL TV.

chei i bet the uk border force will send her a thank u letter just for doing 75% of their job.

why that skinny crack head lookalike went thru is beyond me and don't get me started on that fame hungry blonde

lng:
I understand there are proposals to build a university and hospital in the Senior Pastor's home state(Osun State)

o right so they don't actually use the money collected to help the less fortunate in society?

all of them annoy me - if they are so great why are they not on £500k a year with some big investment bank - abeg they should all go and sit down.

naija don suffer,

those 2 girls arguing in front of an important customer were just stupid, they are even lucky the man didn't walk away. Gosh making us women look bad