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OP is a confused product of Naija challenged education system.
Industrial Chrmistry, Mechanical and Electrical Engineering all require rigorous academic training. Electricians and Mechanics are not engineers!!

refreshrate:
wow! big english!

Cos you have really nothing new to say. You only state ignorantly-held opinions for gullible followers to believe. If u say something that's intellectually insightful with facts , then we have some things in common to talk about..

Jetjacky:
And to you a $20k car us cheap now who is gullible

His official vehicle is 2008 ford focus valued at less than $6000. This someone who sits on top of $bn in cash, and assets owned by Catholic Church.. Tell me what's ur definition of humility and sincerity of purpose.

abiambo:
Oga park well abeg, this is Monday morning.. I need to sleep

Naija way of justifying evil.. Everybody is doing it. Always manufacuring lies as " facts" to fit their narrative.

Maybe you lost your job because of your bad English and poor writing skills. So you got rejected by JUMIA? Doesn't it tell u that you are not that good?? Rejected a job offer from Stanbic because of their requirements and then accepted a job offer from a private company with no strings attached. You really want things easy in life without adding commensurate value! You have paid the price for picking immediate gratification over long-term goals. Telling your boss that it's OK to be losing money because of some govt policies when in fact you are getting paid is sheer callousness and youthful exuberance.. Time to go and hustle and be ur own boss!!

refreshrate:
Says the man who can't compose two sentences in English.

Guy stroll abeg.

It will forever look like page 404 puzzle to ur encephalon...

abiambo:
The office of UK PM has access to the government jet.. just like us president has air force 1.. Dats by the way,
That d pope has over a billion members doesn't mean he travels a lot, NB every time the pope travels it's on cnn cos he's d leader of a country and mind you the vatican has @ least 1 jet to convey his holiness on his trips abroad, so does Rccg have @ list 1 jet to ferry their head pastor to his various missions abroad, likewise winners Chapel... must they enter emirates b4 u rest?? Even at that u will say he uses first class instead of him to b in economy class, if you get money shey u go trek until ur whole neighbourhood can afford 3 square meals... keep judging

UK PM uses charter jets from British Airways, only the Royals have dedicated jets. PMs don't have specially made ones like Airforce One..
U keep comparing apple and oranges.. Pastors are immersed in ocean of opulencce and materialism while their flocks are swimming in poverty.. They are taking money from the poor to support their lifestyle!!

refreshrate:
I don't owe you any explanation.

my type is not the issue here. attend to the points raised and stop trying to divert by thinking you know anything about me.

what is the logical thing in anything you've said please? because you hear people saying... you can't even compose English well sef, the statement is ..."being logical" not been logical.

Then also how do you describe "they speak irrational"? oga it's they speak irrationally.

Your issue has now been fully identified & it was just as I suspected.

keep fooling yourself with words above your thought level you hear?

No wonder...

It's hard to be logical with you, but you are comfortable with offering ignorant opinion from the bottomless dungeon of irrationality.. Go play some where cod this discussion is not meant for u!!

abiambo:
YES!!! The pastors mentioned in the post travel more than the pope... as for the fruit of their labor -- that's what you are killing yourself about...
They hold crusades the world over and hundreds of thousands come to christ via dis crusade nt to talk abt healing et al

What do you mean that pastors with 1-5m members travel more than the pope with over 1bn members? Do they also travel more than UK PM with no private jet

Divinelivn:
Hmmm!!! Word!!!!
Quite agreeable viewpoint. However dnt forget that som of these pastors hav their own businesses that have been blessed and some of the things they own are gifts or seeds meant only for them.
Also some of them have made so great investments in numerous lives that it would be unlike God to bless them and surround them with people that will abundantly bless them. When they were suffering and still investing in lives, nobody knew nor cared...
All I'm saying is that YES!! Some of our pastors deserve God's immediate rain of fire but some truly have worked so much that it will be impossible for God not to open the heavens on them for the rest of their lives... So we should be careful not to judge

Good points made but the notion that stating the facts is judging is absurd. If we treat then with Christ-like reverence, then we should hold them to standards that Christ laid down for us. My point is that the pope is in control of assets worth billion $€£ but chooses to live a humble life as to serve people most of whom are needy and oppressed but these pastors have chosen to acquire inordinate wealth in order to fulfil their thirst for greed and materialism.. These pastors aren't living as paupers but having private jets when British PM with larger and wealthier constituents, doesn't have one is a reflection of whats wrong with modern Christendom

Divinelivn:
Thank you jare!!!
As for me tho, I alwys apply caution when it cums to religious matters because there are too many issues that commenting on them with human reasoning will undoubtedly push one to the brink of Sinning!!!!

Greater sin is being immersed in ocean of abundance when your followers are immersed in poverty.. Why is this hard for us to practice? Jesus didn't live opulently and let his followers suffer!!

birdman:
I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

Typical Naija mindset of always defending avarice be it from politicians or pastors.. Why does a pastor who has less than 1 million congregants need a private jet? It's just for greed and materialism..Pope leads over 1bn Catholics and flies economy on a charter plane... He's official car is 2008 Ford Focus valued at less than $6000. Pope is eschewing inordinate materialism in an ocean of abundance- yes Catholic has $bns, but Naija pastors are showing inordinate thirst and love for greed and materialism in an ocean of poverty.. Work that Catholic Charities do globally are in $billions and Pope can starve them of funds in order to live an opulent lifestyle

magicminister:
The bolded got me laughing. Igbo people supported jonathan out of teibal semtiments despite his abysmal records within the past 6 years.

If agbaje couldn't handle a campaign, na lagos state he wan handle?

Besides, agbaje could've been worse off.

What's tribalistic in Igbos supporting a Yoruba candidate to win in Yorubaland Why are young Nigerians willfully ignorant??

DRANOEL:
and what shiet did he say there? i thought that was brilliant

Denying that BH members are not from the north
Sympathizing with BH isn't enough shziit??

His followers are willfully ignorant!!

Hope this doesn't turn into another Dasuki/NSA saga.. From alleged billions to millions to FINALLY being charged with the possession of weapons...

Any warrant for her arrest in Naija

Naija manufacturing idiocy since 0000BC.. Conception without vagina is near impossible even with IVF if all female reproductive organs are intact..
Simple check. Just Check her DNA with her baby's!!

VickJames:
If he had given the 25million naira to three youths with one good business plan. In the next 10years, they will have employed 150 people.

Do Naija leaders think this way? Are u sure that they will get this money when most of them don't have bank account.

AtlanticBreeze:
peter obi is the worst thing to happen to anambra state. Though I don't support the approach but its not entirely bad, afterall pope and obama visited prisons in the USA and it was highly celebrated. What if those guys were wrongly imprisoned?

Uneccessary comparison. Obiano is neither Obama nor Pope.. Pope and Obama didn't give money to convicted inmates.. Obiano shouldnt have given them money..

Nigerians aren't logistical and critical in dealing with national issues, so because of that we produce leaders without critical thinking.
President Kenyatta of Kenya is an example of an articulate and eloquent leader. Mugabe is far more eloquent and articulate than most Naija leaders.. We stopped having eloquent and articulate leaders after Zik and Awo...

Practice and TelePrompter.. American politicians are ready from day 1!!

HungerBAD:
Interesting Critique.

But, what advice or deed have you contributed to Nigeria that can make her great? You guys just bunch together in one corner and look for faults.

Now proffer one sensible way forward.

Inability to accept criticism that you are wrong is out greatest problem.. Instead of u to be appalled at the rate GMB is making unpardonable errors you are here accusing the OP of criticising.. The onus is on GMB to state facts in his speeches not OP who is not running for any office.

shiinihost:
Listening to this man speak yesterday at the platform, i became ashamed of my faith. Kukah and his likes are some of the persons holding Nigeria sway.

It's either you a beneficiary of the status quo or a politician.. Kukah has never held political office and has always been called by politicians and military to help develop a way forward-- maybe you are too young or bereft of political history-Google is ur friend-Oputa Panel, his inter-faith dialogue and National Peace Committee.. He was part of the group that set ground rules b4 the election- which made GEJ to immediately accept the defeat and congratulate PMB.. He has give more help to Naija than ur idol politicians.
Back to his sermon, he is of the opinion that Naija is a place where where 60% are vunerable to corruption, 20% are in between whike 20% are incorruptible, but over time, 20% would join 60% to overwhemingly dominate and stifle 20% incorruptible minority.. You imagine in ur house 80% of family members want to do things the wrong way- fight, cheat, steal-and u r in the silent minorituy.. It would be near impossible to change them

Bolade005:
I agree with the public declaration of assets, they all should be compelled to do so but telling them their children must school in Nigeria is pure nonsense.

So because my father is a minister I should be denied the opportunity to get educated at one of the best schools in the world?, father better not accept the post then. Rubbish talk.

Btw, who is this Mr Kukah?

Typical Naija looting mindset.. What ur dad couldnt afford to give u when he was struggling as a party supporter he shall not give u as a govt minister..

Why not 10 biggest inventions and discoveries??

petikal:
What have I been saying all along, or was it because you didn't understand it?

Did you even read the link? Didn't you say the limit was $300? What's RIA's limit to UK, for instance? What's your point again?

You keep resolving to insult, it doesn't make you any more intelligent or matured.

From the link, which you either didn't read or purposely ignored:
"Sender must have a FirstBank account or be identified by an account holder for transactions above N200,000. Maximum send amount as stipulated by the Central Bank of Nigeria is 5000USD Naira equivalent per sender."

$300 is for Naira Debit card holders on POS and online transactions.
As per money transfer agents like RIA, WU& MG, u have like $900 per transaction and u can't do more than 2x in a week and their agents overseas can't pay more than $4-5k in a wk to one person.. This is not designed for business transfers.
Most foreign businesses don't accept WU/MG/RIA, they prefer wire transfer for intl transactions.. I have told u that u play in the feeder team.. $900 can only buy u 1 iPhone without shipping. Imagine u want to buy 50 pieces or a $10k Toyota Camry?

Why not Obi/Ribadu? Obi is a proven and tested leader than Ribadu.

petikal:
Here you go. Help yourself.

Why do I care what CBN or my bank does with the dollars? I don't care here, neither would I care in Nigeria. What matters is I follow their instructions, and send money wherever. A dorm is nice, but not the only option.

Sophisticated idiocy ingrained in your encephalon.. You can't send Naira without converting it to the merchant's preferred method of payment.. The point is that your bank-if u have one, and CBN do this for u.. That's why they charge u. RIA, Western Union and Moneygram all charge u Naira equivalebt of dollar u want to send.. There is a limit of about $900 with WU&MG.. Stop dashing ignorance cos there are no takers.

erico2k2:
I have both savings and curent plus biz account in Nigeria none of dem can do that.

Don't mind him! He's clueless on how things work. Why do banks open dom accounts if you can transfer Naira to oversea merchants? Folks at Seme Border don't even accept Naira. He doesn't know that $$ is intl currency for trade..

Cos most Naija girls are takers and not raised to bring much to the table..

petikal:
Please stop spewing misinformation. I repeat, you can do wire transfer worth millions from your Naira account to ANY merchant's account in ANY CURRENCY (including Dollars). No $300 limit FOR WIRE TRANSFER. Understand?

The policy wants us to use Naira account to conduct transactions locally and internationally (via official/legal rates), and that's how things should be. We all want a better economy and stronger currency, but refuse to doing things the right way!

There's no point in repeating myself, if you insist on ignoring the obvious. I already made my point several times.

Offering ignorant opinion from the abundance of your sophisticated idiocy. U can't conduct intl transaction in Naira that's why CBN is hoarding $€£ because for every intl transaction done in Naira, CBN MUST settle merchant overseas in $€£¥.. Stop spewing ur ignorance of economic 101.. If you have never been inside MMA outbound lounge this post is super-above ur xprience and intellectual skills.. Go play in the celebrity and jokes sections