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Smh

Before you write on any issue I'd advice that you
make proper research into the subject matter. One
thing you must realise is that the only constant
thing in life is change and when. In today's
medical world due to the ever growing health
challenges and nEed for better care other
professionals in the health sector don't just stop at
getting first degrees, they are specializing in
different areas in their chosen fields to better eqyip
them do peform their fxn better. All this is geared
towards better patients care. Unfortunately
Nigerian Drs see it as a threat to them because
they feel if others are granted consultancy rights
they will come to their level. There is no point
disputing the fact that Drs are leaders in the health
care team. The mark of a true leader is to do your
job and ensure that ur team mates also do theirs.
They cannot do so if they are nor trained to.
Nigerian Drs should come down from their
egocentric world and emulate what other countries
are doing then we would be the better for it. I'll
ask why is it that they are always quick to go on
strike with any liTtle misunderstanding? Why can't
they try every other possible means b4 resrting to
strike?

what JOHESU is
demanding for Is not out of place but it is
happening all over the world. As far as I'm
concerned this matter is not worth the lives that
have been lost and are still being lost everyday due
to this strike.

THE National Agency for Food and Drugs
Administration and Control (NAFDAC) has fallen
foul of Section 2 of the Fiscal Responsibility Act
2007 by not remitting to the federation account an
operational surplus amounting to N1.439 billion as
demanded by Law, the Fiscal Responsibility
Commission (FRC) has said.
FRC noted that the Act made it mandatory for
government agencies such as NAFDAC to remit
certain percentage of their operational surplus to
the Federation Account.
“Notwithstanding the provisions of any written law
governing the corporation, each corporation shall
establish a general reserve fund and shall allocate
thereto at the end of each financial year one-fifth of
its operating surplus for the year,” the section
provided.
“The balance of the operating surplus shall be paid
into the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federal
Government not later than one month following the
statutory deadline for publishing each
corporation’s accounts.”
Speaking in Abuja yesterday on issues relating to
NAFDAC’s Audited Financial Statements of 2007 to
2009, the FRC Head of Policy and Standard,
Mohammed Ola Tijani, said: “We have reviewed
your accounts from 2007 to 2009 and discovered
that you have to pay N1.439 billion to the
federation account as demanded by law.”
According to Tijani, “a close look at NAFDAC’s
account shows that it generated N491, 252 million
surplus in 2007, N857, 132 million in 2008 and
N607, 680 million in 2009 but paid N64, 048
million to the federation account in 2007, N93
million in 2008 and N105, 000 million respectively.
“The account books also indicate that NAFDAC’s
2007 outstanding stood at N427, 204 million,
N763, 565 million in 2008 and N502, 680 million
in 2009.
Meanwhile, the Acting Chairman of FRC, Victor
Chinemeren Muruako, has warned that NAFDAC
would be sanctioned if it delays the payments. He
said: “I would have appreciated if the DG of
NAFDAC was here.
“I will only appeal to your management to
hurriedly pay this money to government’s purse,
failure of which will make us to write damaging
reports on your agency.”
However, he asked NAFDAC representatives to
consult with their Director-General on the date for
payment. Responding, the Director of Finance and
Accounts and representative of NAFDAC, Mr.
Ademola Mogbojumi, said the team would relay the
message his boss, Dr. Paul Ohi, for prompt action.
Source: allafrica.com

nouveaux: why don't you walk into a bookshop and get some books on manners, courtesy and grammar? It would do you good. Not in mood for exchange of insults, if I start, nl would collapse. Alainilari oponu omokere

Guy!!! I've missed you on this platform!

nouveaux: satan is stalking you closely

Or the Devil is playing Ludo with his brain

drchingy: People can lie ooo.
1st in class ke drop out ni..
Which school dash u 1st in class.
D real brilliant pharmacists are into research and manufacturing in big pharmaceuticals n are even better off than most drs.
Meanwhile mr 1st in class here is content with being a common drug dispenser and even struggling to be consultant drug dispenser. .

Oh shattap!!! Any first class pharmacist can work ANYWHERE.. Watch the capital ANYWHERE!

drobadebayo: Stopping Implementation of a policy that will constitute anarchy and suing NMA to court by johesu are widely distinct.
Don't forget that johesu threatened strike if surgeon general was appointed.
Johesu likes playing dirty but unfortunately NMA can't be sued nor cn dey sue.dey cn go ahead nd sue MDCAN though.

How come implementation of the policy will constitute anarchy but SGF won't? How come Nigeria is not ripe for consultant pharmacist and nurses but ripe for Surgeon General?

For me, both parties are selfish and don't have the interest of the public at heart.

Double post

Smh..

phantom: we have been doing successful kidney transplants in this country.should I furnish links??

Answer the question! Would you have him transplant his organ in Nigeria or go abroad! Yes? No?

armadeo: pls don't quote eye surgery its as common as mosquitoes in Nigeria, as for organ transplant i don't believe you understand the logistics that follow it( there is a reason that it is not common here in Nigeria) so leave it at that.

recently delsuth performed their first kidney transplant and patient/donor are still alive.

If you, or les say your cousin (God forbid) has a kidney or liver transplant to do, will you allow your colleagues perform magic on him or send him abroad?

I'm so voting for Jimi Agbaje!

Vote for Jimi Agbaje! He has my votes already.

armadeo: pls don't quote eye surgery its as common as mosquitoes in Nigeria, as for organ transplant i don't believe you understand the logistics that follow it( there is a reason that it is not common here in Nigeria) so leave it at that.

recently delsuth performed their first kidney transplant and patient/donor are still alive.

work.chron.com/clinical-nurse-
consultant-13912.html

www.prospects.ac.uk/
hospital_pharmacist_salary.htm

www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/
pharmacy/pharmacist/hospital-pharmacist/

Some experienced hospital pharmacists working
in advanced roles are able to meet the criteria
needed to be recognised as consultant
pharmacists.

armadeo: Except in the hospital setting ( you know what ownership means so don't pretend) which johesu has kept ignoring. pls links to evidence that shows these various consultants exist in places where best international practices are carried out. we are waiting.

work.chron.com/clinical-nurse-consultant-13912.html

www.prospects.ac.uk/hospital_pharmacist_salary.htm

www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/pharmacy/pharmacist/hospital-pharmacist/

Some experienced hospital pharmacists working
in advanced roles are able to meet the criteria
needed to be recognised as consultant
pharmacists.

Smh..

Lmaoooo!!! Hilarious!

phantom: childish! in your hurry to embarrass doctors, you didn't even read the article.
a hospital suffering staff shortage puts a foreign locum doctor under pressure WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING UNDER SUPERVISION.
IRONICALLY,NONE OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THAT PLACE HAVE BEEN DISCIPLINED.
so this is clearly a trainee doctor whose bosses should have taken the blame but throw him to the dogs because he is black.

Did you miss this part?

doctor’s negligence was first observed by a
High Court judge in 2007 when the doctor, who specialises in obstetrics and gynaecology sent a
mother home with pain killers for a headache when
she had a fatal blood clot.

Cool..

Samgreguc: the guy is simply saying that accuracy in his job description is what matters not fighting to do the work of a Physician and by so doing don't u think the patient will be affected positively?

Sam, God bless you. I'm tired of explaining to the guy.

sigolisis: Same in pharmacy, I really don't have time to dissect this. A Consultant Pharmacist goes through a similar training rigour after internship and NYSC @ the West African Postgraduate College of Pharmacy for a specialty in say Paediatrics or CVD for not less than 6 years.

God bless you jor!

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The acts they get away with, cover it up because a doctor is the CMD. Pls the whole world see this.

I dare you to open a thread for people who have lost their loved ones due to doctor's negligence and see how many people we are talking about.

Negligence is the middle name of Nigerian medical doctors, they're presently the only ones calling the shots, that's the only reason they get away with the death of innocent patients.


www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689359/Anguish-parents-newborn-twin-died-bungling-locum-struggled-speak-English.html

Mods, do the needful.

Royver: Who provides the equipment?

Question for the gods.


Last bullet: Go on strike to improve your practice.

sainty2k3: Sorry bros , but pks stop confusing people, a postgraduate training, that's residency in pharmacy makes u a fellow of the highly esteemed college and not necessarily the title consultant ,if u have any link to prove that is what makes a consultant pharmacist pls lemme know.

Now, what makes a consultant pharmacist . check the link below pls
www.cpe.pharmacy.ufl.edu/courses/consultant/

U can check out the screen munch but , the summary is that the west Africa college of pharmacistn doesn't confer such title on her fellows, the curriculum for a consultant pharmacist is in the link above with is also in that screen munch below


And their role is not within the hospital settings as u can see in the link above and
And also that of America society of consultant pharmacists--

https://www.ascp.com/articles/what-consultant-pharmacist

'A simple answer is that a consultant pharmacist is a pharmacist who is paid to provide expert advice on the use of medications by individuals or within institutions, or on the provision of pharmacy services to institutions.'

'Consultant Pharmacists are now practicing in a wide variety of other settings, including subacute care and assisted living facilities, psychiatric hospitals, hospice programs, and in home and community-based care -- wherever seniors reside. Consultant Pharmacists are defined by their common commitment to enhance the quality of care for all older persons through the appropriate use of medication and promotion of healthy aging'

Prior to this a moment the fellows of west Africa college of pharmacist are not after adding that title consultant cos of obvious reason, they know what the term consultant in hospital settings mean.
Postgraduate training broaden ur knowledge and improve patient care even within hospital settings. Must u claim a title that doesn't belong to you to do ur work

I don't mind if we're are not giving the title consultant. For the reason that, a postgraduate course doesn't make you a consultant in the US doesn't apply to Africa. Here, you need to go through a postgraduate college to become one. That said, whatever process it takes, the roles are the same everywhere. To hell with the title!!!

Royver: I am currently in a seminar now where we are discussing purchasing a Genexpert machine for use in the easy diagnosis of tuberculosis. It cost N5.2million to purchase. With this machine it will be easy to specifically diagnose tuberculosis no matter how small the sample is, and this will be of immense benefit in people living with HIV/AIDS especially in a country like ours.
This is a machine that can significantly impact on the health care system among patients in Nigeria. And yet we have only two of these machines in the whole south east. And yet our government would rather pay certain political persons N16million per ?month than buy this device for the populace of Nigeria.
Do you know why they travel abroad? Because they know the true state of our hospitals, our archaiec equipment and outdated machines. But they do nothing about it , instead playing politics and keeping the health sector in chaos for their own greedy gain.
Our doctors are not lacking in knowledge. Our heads are bursting with the knowledge we obtained through 7-8 years of medical school. If we don't do kidney transplants its because we don't have the equipment to do so. We have proved we are capable in doing the complicated surgeries they all rush to India to do, we have proved it and published it in the papers over and over again. its just for them to provide us with equipment.

This is the reply I wanted from the op. How do you think it would be if you channeled this energy into provision of equipments for surgery?

jpphilips: It is done on a daily basis at one trauma center at Emenike street in PH (cant rem the name), both Nigerian consultants and some brown experts work there, you can take a trip there if you like.
for someone who has done Appendectomy, removed tonsil, guess I am not the right candidate for that question, kindly chose another patient.

I didn't say u're the right candidate for the question. I just asked if you needed the surgery, say eye surgery or Kidney transplant. Would you have a Nigerian medical doctor perform magic on you.

centje:
I've wasted my time with a kid. Sorry for quoting, my dear.

It's my pleasure sir

centje: what's your point

Aside thyroidectomy, those surgeries, you mentioned, are very common surgeries done by Doctors, GPs, fresh graduates, not even specialists, within minutes, just to tell you how simple they are. When some of you take this angle i just but wish we could track you to see who will treat you when you fall sick. You will still run back to the same Doctors you castigate.
I bet you have no clue of number of patients saved by nigerian physicians not to talk of surgeons, on daily basis.

What about when you have an eye surgery? Organ transplant? Would you allow a Nigerian medical doctor perform magic on you? Op pls answer!


My point is pls strike to improve your practice! Not too stop others from improving their practice! We are tired of going to India.

jpphilips: There you go again, if there are already existing unproductive hierarchy and cadre in nursing, why do you want more by asking for consultancy?
What have the patients benefited from those so called BSc. nurses who fold their legs on front desk while the registered nurses pack all the sh!!t and p!ss? what use are they to us?

I have seen a Bsc nurse who refused to remove an Anal dressing in the name of not wanting to soil her hands and claim it is for the Reg. nurse to do so, meanwhile on another patient, the so called BSc nurse could not put a catheter, it was a doctor who came to her rescue.

BSc nurse vs Reg. nurse is a lot of problem already, the patient don't want more bureaucracy. A Bsc nurse on night duty only chat online in the name of writing report on the system, it is the Reg. nurse that throw away all the p!!s from the P!ss bags, practically they are useless.

Aux. nurse will bathe the patient, fetch water for patients, run around for food, serve drugs, clean the hospital, change diapers etc the BSc will be seating like an oracle dishing out insults on the productive ones.

#Say no to unproductive consultancy# if a nurse, pharmacist or scientist want to be consulted, open a shrine, or store take it outside the Govt hospitals.

How come you know so much? You're a patient oo

chucs: I was looking for unbiased and neutral opinion.

There can't be a neutral opinion. It's either you want to improve patient care(JOHESU), or you want us to maintain the status quo(NMA). Our healthcare is presently ranked 196/198 in the world or so, remember that.

jpphilips: Simple question behooves simple answer, I may not be a health practitioner doesn't mean I left my common sense abroad.

Who does the prognosis and logs in the patients complain?
who tells the scientist which test to run to confirm his prognosis?
who writes the drug prescription and dosage that wakes the pharmacist from coma?
whose signature admits and discharges the patient?
who certifies a patient DEAD?

back to the issue again, who owns the patient??

One question. If you had a thyroid removal surgery to do, or appendicitis. Or say a cancer removing surgery, would you allow a Nigerian medical doctor do this on you?

Just look how the geriatric pharmacists in the US put it:

What Can a Senior Care
Pharmacist Do for You?
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Senior Care Pharmacists are skilled health care
professionals who have specialized training in the
medication-related needs of seniors. This field of
study is called geriatric pharmacotherapy.
Special Skills of Senior Care Pharmacists
In their roles as medication therapy management
(MTM) experts, senior care pharmacists:
hold their patients’ interest above all others;
take responsibility for their patients’ medication-
related needs;
ensure that their patients’ medications are the
most appropriate, the safest possible, the most
effective, and are used correctly; and
identify, resolve, and prevent medication-related
problems.
Typically, senior care pharmacists accomplish this
through a comprehensive consultation that
provides a thorough, one-on-one review of all of
your medications -- prescription, over-the-
counter, herbal, and nutritional.
But senior care pharmacists go well beyond
reviewing medications. A senior care pharmacist
has studied and acquired extensive knowledge
about and experience in:
-Observing and properly assessing the health of
seniors;
-Advocating healthy living practices and disease
prevention for seniors;
-Recognizing and understanding diseases and
conditions common in the senior population;
Identifying medication-related problems that can
cause, aggravate, or contribute to common
geriatric problems;
-Making it easier for seniors to take their
medications properly by labeling, packaging and
organizing prescription drugs better; and
Understanding the role of the caregiver, the
financial challenges that seniors can face, and the
importance of choosing appropriate care.
Some also have demonstrated their
special knowledge and training by becoming
board-certified geriatric pharmacists.

Improving Your Quality of Life
In addition to possessing skills specifically tailored
to seniors’ needs, senior care pharmacists have a
different perspective from most physicians and
pharmacists. There’s a tendency for physicians to
prescribe and pharmacists to dispense medications
for a senior. But a senior care pharmacist would
first look to see if the symptom might itself be a
side effect of a current medication.
What does this mean for you?
It’s simple: Do your medications make you sleepy?
Is your thinking foggy? Do you feel anxious,
confused, or depressed? Do you feel light-headed?
Do you sleep poorly at night?
All of these symptoms may be related to taking
your medications. A senior care pharmacist will
evaluate the overall picture of how your
medications are affecting your quality of life. This
can make a real difference for you and your family!

What Services a Senior Care Pharmacist Provides
A senior care pharmacist provides one-on-one
consultation with you and your family, often in your
home or an office, for a reasonable fee.
A senior care pharmacist can:
Provide professional, unhurried visits, and
medication information that is understandable to
you, your family, and caregivers
Identify and reduce medicated-related problems,
such as side effects and drug interactions
Eliminate unnecessary medications
Simplifying the system for taking medications
Offer ideas for improving medication compliance
and maintaining the best health
Reduce medication costs
Serve as your advocate with your physician to
ensure the use of the most appropriate
medications
Promote wellness and disease prevention
Identify untreated problems, such as incontinence
and depression
Watch This Video
Watch this video to learn more about what a senior
care pharmacist can do for you.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7ic197sUc

In Conclusion
In short, a senior care pharmacist can help you
stay healthy through appropriate, safe, and effective
medication use.
Why wait? Schedule an appointment to have the
benefit of improved health today.

jpphilips: You cannot be paid as a consultant just because you are responsible for just an ailment, haba! consultant for HIV pharm, consultant Kidney nurse, consultant cosmetic cleaner, the whole thing should sound ridiculous to you (Hope you didn't chip in the HIV clause to scare me )

please If after your sojourn in the realm of HIV, Pharmacy et al, you cannot own a patient, then it is useless to us. NMA has been able to accept that responsibility and Nigerians are glad to give them the Badge and honor to go with.

If at this point, you're still talking about owning the patient, then I have no more words for you.