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dumodust: you're already occupying the space in the cage with ur baggage of titles...I don't know what your problem is. You accused us of wanting to bear 'Dr' on the PharmD thread. It's a cliche for pharmacists to address themselves as Pharm This. And if this bothers you, you can jump into the nearest lagoon! That said, you doctors always think and say someone clamouring for Better practice is doing it for the sake of the TITLE or SALARY. What if you were in the same position? Would you just sit there and remain irrelevant? I'm tired. |
sublimes: I don't see why doctors should go on strike over this petty issue.If not for fear.. It shouldn't be. |
dumodust: bush man, you should vamoose to the bush as well, it is only in nigeria you hear pharmacist, engr, surveyor, architect in front of people's names....bunch of title loving low cerebral content twats... smhYou've been noticed. You can now go back to your cage. |
ogawisdom: If d doctors prescription is final in all medical conditions then why call a pharmacist a consultant. Wat role exactly is he expected to play or is he looking for titles without role. I believe we r on d same page nwYou still don't understand simple English? Smh |
sisiafrika: d same way most nigerian doctors have reduced demselves to paracetamol prescribers, so so disapointing. Mis diagnosis upon mis diag.... Stfu already and face ur workUnnecessary surgery, wrong prescription, and always referring patients to India. Only if they took half of the energy they exude hating fellow health professionals to improve their practice, we won't be wasting our money on Indiana trips. |
matify: Thank you.A qualitative study of causes of prescribing errors among junior medical doctors in a Nigeria in- patient setting Adetutu A Ajemigbitse 1, Moses K Omole2, Ogugua F Osi-Ogbu 3, Wilson O Erhun 4 1 Department of Pharmacy, National Hospital Abuja, University of Ibadan, Ibadan, Nigeria 2 Department of Clinical Pharmacy and Pharmacy Administration, University of Ibadan, Ibadan, Nigeria 3 Department of Medicine, National Hospital Abuja, Federal Capital Territory, Ile Ife, Nigeria 4 Department of Clinical Pharmacy and Pharmacy Administration, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile Ife, Nigeria Aims: The aims of this study were to identify and understand the factors underlying prescribing errors in order to determine how to prevent them. Materials and Methods: A prospective qualitative study that involved face-to-face interviews and human factor analysis in a Tertiary Referral Hospital in Central Nigeria, from July 2011 to December 2011. Pharmacists in the study hospital prospectively reviewed prescription orders generated by doctors in selected wards (male and female medical, pediatric and the private wing wards) and identified prescribing errors. The 22 prescribers involved in the errors were interviewed, and given questionnaires to discover factors causing the errors. A model of human error theory was used to analyze the responses. Results: Responses from the doctors suggest that most errors were made because of slips in attention. Lack of drug knowledge was not the single causative factor in any incident. Risk factors identified included individual, team, environment, and task factors. Junior doctors were affected by the prescribing habits of their seniors. Organizational factors identified included inadequate training/experience, absence of reference materials and absence of self-awareness of errors. Defenses against error such as other clinicians and guidelines were absent or deficient, and supervision was inadequate. Conclusions: To reduce the risk of prescribing errors, a number of strategies addressing individual, task, team, and environmental factors such as training of junior doctors, enforcing good practice in prescription writing, supervision, and reviewing the workload of junior doctors must be established. Aims: The aims of this study were to identify and understand the factors underlying prescribing errors in order to determine how to prevent them. Materials and Methods: A prospective qualitative study that involved face-to-face interviews and human factor analysis in a Tertiary Referral Hospital in Central Nigeria, from July 2011 to December 2011. Pharmacists in the study hospital prospectively reviewed prescription orders generated by doctors in selected wards (male and female medical, pediatric and the private wing wards) and identified prescribing errors. The 22 prescribers involved in the errors were interviewed, and given questionnaires to discover factors causing the errors. A model of human error theory was used to analyze the responses. Results: Responses from the doctors suggest that most errors were made because of slips in attention. Lack of drug knowledge was not the single causative factor in any incident. Risk factors identified included individual, team, environment, and task factors. Junior doctors were affected by the prescribing habits of their seniors. Organizational factors identified included inadequate training/experience, absence of reference materials and absence of self-awareness of errors. Defenses against error such as other clinicians and guidelines were absent or deficient, and supervision was inadequate. Conclusions: To reduce the risk of prescribing errors, a number of strategies addressing individual, task, team, and environmental factors such as training of junior doctors, enforcing good practice in prescription writing, supervision, and reviewing the workload of junior doctors must be established. This is the reason for more knowledgeable pharmacists. Now tell me again how unripe we are for consultant pharmacists. |
BluIvy: Nigeria is falling apart! Are these not issues that are supposed to have been decided long time ago by both medical association, health ministry, leadership organizations of medical institutions etc?If you see this as a bid to acquire titles, you might be correct cos it's an abysmal Nigerian thinking. But I wonder why you didn't look at how it benefits the patients. Why? |
Raymondenyi: I have read tru ur argument; it is lucid, cogent n convincing; n if I say u anything short of an intellectual, den I'll be doing d general public a grave injustice...Thank you. See ehn! Only doctors abroad know the value of a pharmacist. One of the very channels to optimize a patients medication is to have a pharmacist around and not just a pharmacist, a consultant pharmacist who has undergone residency in the aspects that correlates to the patients illness. That said, a doctor cannot determine whether or not he wants a pharmacist, the hospital system places him to fill that optimization role. You know most times, a lot of drugs prescribed are unnecessary but in naija theres no expert to optimize and it results in waste of money, drug burden, adverse effects and the likes. For doctors to go on strike because of this, sir! It's inimical to the rights of the patients. |
ogawisdom: Nigeria is different from other climes. Besides we shld nt copy everytin we see elsewhere, wen ll other climes ever copy us. We shld do things dt will work in our own environment. Doctors r d captains in d health industry n their training r d broadest, having a consultant pharmacist is needless bc it ll lead to a situation where he ll b contesting doctors prescriptions so who is d boss. Nw dts d confusion we r talking abt.I thought I explained that part in my first post on this thread. If you find any pharmacist change a prescription, you have the right to report him to PSN or WAPCP. Pls reread my post. |
speckless: I wonder what kind of spirit that has descended on Nigerian pharmacist of this days. can't imagine an Indian pharmacist thinking this way struggling with doctors in the hospital where their main role is actually a dispenser?We all fight for international best practices, if it coincides with your ego, then it's your cup of tea. Dispensing is the traditional role of pharmacists, not anymore! |
infolekan: Yes.....you should be a Consultant.That shouldn't be. There is a better way to hurt a doctor like I explained. |
ogawisdom: I think d doctors r right, u can't ve two captains in one ship. Creating a consultant pharmacist ll cause confusion. A pharmacist is under d doctor in health care delivery n so it shld b n dt is y its only doctors dt can b CMD, comm for health, minister of health etcAnd why hasn't it caused confusion in the other climes? |
bigass: to the bolded, There is No college called like that in existence currently and none like that anywhere in the worldYou see? When I call you uninformed I'm actually correct. The industrial court passed the law establishing that college years. It's located at Yaba and I heard Prof Erhun established a branch at OAUth at Ife. Just to let you know, dispensing is the traditional role of pharmacists. If you get, That's what we used to do. Pharmacists in other countries have moved forward, we also have the right to. Dispensing nowadays is done by pharmacy technicians and robots. In the UK, pharmacists are into MTM(Medication Therapy Management). This is not to remove the roles of pharmacists in the communities and industries, their roles haven't changed. So if you don't have any useful contributions, just move on to the next thread! |
bigass: When did pharmacist become a title?. You are Mr Sesan Kareem.Sorry to burst your bubble, it's actually a title. Why not tell an Engineer who spent 5 years in school his title is Mr? Dumb doctors sha! Vamoose jor! |
If you say that consultant pharmacists don't work in hospitals, what will you say about the consultant nurses, med lab scientists and physiotherapists? They don't work in hospitals too? Stop the propaganda pls! I mean, this doctors already rate one of the highest in the world when it comes to wrong diagnosis, wrong prescriptions and iatrogenic disorders which is better called doctor-induced disorders. Others health professionals are done with that and want to improve their practice and what do we have? A nationwide strike. Uninformed set of people! Check out the statistics given on this thread, you'll be shocked. www.nairaland.com/1809323/when-doctors-go-strike-death |
Dnaz: akintayo was frustrated out of medicine by Jamb. if u say na lie ask him urselfMumu like you. His parents wanted him to study medicine, he rebelled and went for pharmacy whose requirements were higher than medicine that year. Use Google plsss! Was that even the question I asked? Why Obembe skip the interview? |
1k001: ''The title “CONSULTANT” in a hospital setting describes the relationship between the Specialist Medical Doctor and his patient. It will be a source of confusion if the title is applied to any other health worker who statutorily does not own patient. NMA, therefore, declares with unmitigated emphasis that if “non-doctor consultants” are appointed, it will lead to chaos and anarchy in the health sector. This should not happen.''Okay, I graduate from a pharmacy school, undergo the compulsory internship and NYSC. Then I got a job in a teaching hospital. While at that, I applied to the West African Postgraduate College of Pharmacy for a specialty in say Paediatrics or CVD. I spend 6 years undergoing the process and graduate from the college. I noticed you medical doctors are emphasizing the nursing home thing, that's misplaced thinking. The advent of consultant pharmacy started in nursing home, yes! But the roles of consultant pharmacists have since expanded. You said this urself: Consultant Pharmacists are now practicing in a wide variety of other settings, including subacute care and assisted living facilities, psychiatric hospitals, hospice programs, and in home and community-based care -- Go to YouTube and see what obtains, and let me clear another misconception you guys have held on tightly to. Been a consultant pharmacist doesn't destroy the doctor-patient link. The doctor everywhere is the owner of the patient, as u like to say it. It only makes pharmacist more knowledgeable and be a force in his specialty. Never have I seen or heard that a consultant pharmacist changed a prescription, never! It's not allowed. You guys never even bothered to ask what the synergistic effect takes place. The practice is to confer recommendations on the prescription(myt be change in dose or suggest a more effective drug or delete an unnecessary drug, or correct drug interactions, suggest alternative therapy and lot of other things) with good reason and document the intervention. I tell you what? A doctor must therefore be cocksure of his prescription b4 the pharmacist comes to scrutinize. Those documented interventions are even more dangerous for the arrogant doctors cos if anything worse happens to the patient and the consultant pharmacist decides to publish his recommendation that wasn't taken by the doctor, he could lose his job or even his license. Meanwhile, it's feel different when a doctor seeks an opinion from a consultant pharmacist, other than an ordinary pharmacist who just dispenses. That's the reality of things. Our doctors want to boss everything, now tell me how this is unnecessary and won't help patient care. |
Have you read that book? Title: 'Our doctors have gone mad again'. Interesting book, I tell you! |
phantom: you really wanted obembe to go screaming and arguing with PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEATH HIM on national TV?And what is the proof that they're beneath him? Just by been a medical doctor, everyone is beneath you? He just couldn't match the brilliance and eloquence of Pharm Akintayo and the physiotherapist. Simple! |
phantom: smh.....only in Nigeria!! you come online and get prescriptions from unknown persons who have not physically assessed you. anything you see at the end of the day,don't complain o! don't rush down here to open threads crying o!I've seen medical doctors dish out prescriptions on Nairaland, who say it can be wrong? I've seen doctors dish out poly pharmacy prescriptions too, who says there can't be drug interactions? Nigerian doctors rate one of the highest in the world when it comes to wrong diagnosis, wrong prescription and iatrogenic disorders. Do you want to stress this further? Why not open ur own thread and give free consultation? Why pull someone who does down? I also expect sensible medical doctors to correct her diagnosis or prescription, instead of trying to bring down the thread! |
If all these happen in hospitals in developed countries, just imagine how the statistics would be in Nigeria. Self acclaimed demi gods killing patients, hating other fellow professionals, worthless thwarts. |
moshoodn: Israel FG deployed Military doctors to the General Hospitals and FMCs....I wanted to cry when I saw the beds in the teaching hospital where I school. All empty! Pediatrics, A&E, everywhere is void of patients. Govt has a large part to be blamed tho. |
zeezahbee: . Adeola why can't they go to all pharmacy website and blog and tell them not to give advice to people again and they must see a doctor. The people coming here to ask question know the way to the hospital but they want an alternative. Still after all my quotes and reply, I still told them to see a doctor , go for scan or tes(m what more do they want me to do.You know the nature of Nigerians with drugs and treatment. We always want to shortcut every thing without seeing the doctor. Expert advise is welcomed, but the 'see ur doctor' advice for me is necessary but hypocritical. They come online because they want to avoid the costs of seeing the doctors. Still, the issue of patient compliance is the real issue with over-the-internet prescription, they could end up taking the drugs the wrong way, who knows? God bless! |
dalhat14: What qualifies u as a consultant pharmacist, go check who the consultant pharmacist is in the United States which your likes readily point at, they work no where near a teaching hospital or anything like a teaching hospital, they specifically work with geriatri patients giving advice on their drug management, u can fool a gullible audience with lies but certainly not usGoogle is still your friend. Consultant pharmacists started are were exclusively in the nursing homes, goan read about the expanded roles of consultant pharmacists in California and other jurisdictions. That consultant don't work in hospitals where they are most useful? Pls spew that phlegm out! And what would you say about consultant nurses? They don't work in hospitals? Use ur brain! |
zeezahbee: adeolaMy sister, this is the third of its kind I'm experiencing. I'd give you the name of the other two threads opened by a pharmacist they invaded insha Allah. I was quite scared the first time I saw the thread, remembering what happened to the last guy. They always shout quackery and never had a better idea or correction of the situation. They came in en masse, reported us, threw insults, got us banned, I was actively involved during the fight, so was 'onagoodday1', samgreguc, nouveaux, joshuapharm and few names I can't recollect. The end story is that the op got tired of the whole thing and gave up. My sister, oouth is balling, 300L is not beans oo! It's just been one week of lectures and its been like one year. There is God sha. Check this out! www.nairaland.com/192442/pharmacist-house-free-medicines-advice Koksy never came back online, her efforts got shattered. Firimador too: www.nairaland.com/1374647/pharmacists-drug-experts/3 He also never came back online. This is the reason I was scared when I first saw this thread. Though its been nice reading your answers, I'm proud of you!!! |
phantom: my brother he has said the truth.its a pity pharmacists have reduced themselves to dispensing drugs. tomorrow when the nurses and lab scientists start poking fingers in your eyes,you will start complaining like doctors are doing now.mark my words!Most times you talk about things you completely know nothing about. Thank God you spoke about sickle cell. The National Institute of Pharmaceutical Research and Development under Prof Gamaliel discovered a drug used to treat sickle cell. I cant remember the name buh Google is still your friend. But there's an issue with FMOH with marketing and distribution of the drug. So just STFU!!!! |
CONSULTANT PHARMACISTS; THE IMPETUS FOR IMPROVED NIGERIANS QUALITY OF HEALTH Did you know that over 80 percent of health conditions are treated with drugs and other pharmaceutical products? It is a well known fact by all health professionals that medications play a significant role in patients care. Are you aware that there are over 25,000 prescription products available in the World today compared to 650 prescription products available in 1960’s? According to United States Food and Drug Administration (USFDA), there are over 25,000 registered prescription products as of June, 2014. Did you know that over 50 percent of patients with chronic illnesses are non-compliant with their medications? Are you aware that lack of compliance by patients, drug interactions, drug misuse, drug abuse, failing interaction in the health services and prescription errors contributed to over 80 per cent of treatment failures? In a research conducted by Farup PG et al, the cumulative of these factors contributed 84 percent to treatment failure. Did you know that in Nigeria there are over 10,000 Nigerians to one pharmacist far above World Health Organization recommendation of one pharmacist to a 1000 of the population? According to Mrs Gloria Ebumere, the Acting Registrar of Pharmacists Council of Nigeria, there are 16,970 registered Pharmacists as of May 2012 (Punch Newspaper). Are you aware that in over 30 states of the United States, physicians enter into agreements with pharmacists to jointly manage patients’ drug therapy? Did you know that the ONLY health care professional that has comprehensive, exclusive and expert knowledge about drugs, cosmetics and other pharmaceutical products are pharmacists? Are you aware that one of the most trusted, accessible and reliable professionals (not just in the health care sector but in all professions) in the World are Pharmacists? In an annual poll conducted by Gallup In 2013, pharmacists placed second among the professions listed, with 75% of respondents expressing a high or very high opinion of their honesty and ethical standards. Pharmacists retain a spot in the top 3 for the tenth consecutive year. Who are Pharmacists? According to Wikipedia, Pharmacists are health care professionals, who practice in pharmacy, the field of health science focusing on the safe and effective medication use. A pharmacist is a member of the health care team directly involved in patient care. Pharmacists undergo university-level education to understand biochemical mechanisms of the action of drugs, drug uses, and therapeutic roles, side effects, potent drug interactions and monitoring parameters. This is mated to anatomy, physiology and pathophysiology. Pharmacists interpret and communicate this specialized knowledge to patients, medical practitioners and other health care providers. Pharmacists are involved in every aspect of the preparation and use of medicines, from research and development to eventual supply to a patient. In a nutshell, pharmacists are drug experts. Who are Consultant Pharmacists? According to America Society of Consultant Pharmacists, a Consultant Pharmacist is a Pharmacist who is paid to provide expert advice on the use of medication by individuals or within institutions, or on the provision of pharmacy services to the institution. Consultant Pharmacists ensure that their patients’ medication is the most appropriate, most effective, most cost-effective, the safest possible, and are used correctly. They are saddled with the responsibility to identify, resolve and prevent medication-related problems. They accomplish this through a comprehensive consultation that provides a thorough, one-on-one review of all your medications;prescription, over-the-counter, herbal and nutritional. A Consultant Pharmacist has studied and acquired extensive knowledge and experience in observing and properly assessing the health of patient, advocating healthy living practices and diseases prevention for patients, identifying medication-related problems that can cause, aggravate or contribute to common patient problems, making it easier for patient to take their medications properly by labeling, packaging and organizing prescription drugs better and understanding the role of care giver, the financial challenges that patients can face, and the importance of choosing appropriate care. IMPROVING YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE In addendum to possessing skills specifically tailored to individual patient’s need, Consultant Pharmacists have a different perspective from most Doctors to dispense medication for a patient. A consultant Pharmacist would first look if the symptoms might itself be a side effect of a current medication. For clarity purpose, what does the above statement imply; Does your medication make you drowsy? Do you feel anxious, confused or depressed? Do you sleep poorly at night? Is your thinking foggy? Are you having a severe headache? Do you have dry cough? All of the above symptoms may be pretty related to taking your medications. For example, a high blood pressure patient taking Agiontensin Converting Enzyme Inhibitors (ACEI) like Ramipril, Lisinopril or Enalapril to mention a few may have dry cough as a side effect. A consultant Pharmacist will evaluate the overall picture of how your medication is affecting your quality of life. This will make a huge difference for you and your loved ones. Consequently, it generally affects the well-being of the society. In addition, to the above services, a consultant Pharmacist helps to identify and reduce medication related problems such as drug interactions and side effects with his extensive knowledge in Structural Activity Relationship (SAR) and pharmacology. A typical example is when you take your paracetamol with alcohol. Paracetamol, also known as acetaminophen chemical structure contained a benzyl ring with NHCOCHʒ and OH at the Para positions. In other words, it is a phenolic group (alcoholic group), which when used with any other type of alcohol increases the work load of the liver, therefore causing increased liver metabolism which can subsequently lead to liver diseases. Consultant Pharmacists help to eliminate unnecessary medication due to poly pharmacy, simplify the system of taking medication therefore eliminating complex medication, reduce medications cost, serve as your advocate with your Doctor to ensure the use of most appropriate medications, promote wellness and help in identifying untreated problems. For hundreds of millions of people across the world, especially in America with chronic illnesses, Consultant Pharmacists play a vital role in ensuring optimal drug therapy thereby improving patients’ quality of life. In their role as medication therapy experts, consultant pharmacists take responsibility for their patients medication-related needs, they ensure that they receive the optimal care. AN ATMOSPHERE OF MISCONCEPTION! Let me also use this medium to clear the air on those people who believe that 80 per cent of people who eventually studied pharmacy failed to gain admission to study medicine. Consultant Pharmacist and the current President of the Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria, Pharmacist Olumide Akintayo gave an insighful and factual response in an interview with Punch Newspaper on October 26, 2013, "The fourth estate of the realm (The Press) has a sacred responsibility to report and put issues in their right perspective. Your question is an obvious fall-out of deliberate propaganda orchestrated by some stakeholders in healthcare. At the First Doctors Summit in Asaba, Prof. Wole Atoyebi, a past President of the Nigerian Medical Association submitted that part of the problems in health care was that people who could not gain admission for medicine settled for other courses in health care and now want to enjoy the benefit of what they could not attain as students. Graciously they allowed me to participate at that session and in the full glare of the over 1,000 delegates from across the country, I submitted that the entry point for pharmacy was higher in the great University of Ife (now OAU) than any other course in the university system. Ife is the best rated in this country and despite all hiccups, it is still highly rated both in the Commonwealth and Africa. I openly challenged the delegates at the conference like I am still doing even now to controvert evidence that the entry point for pharmacy is not one of the top five in any Nigerian university that it is offered. In my days, the entry point for direct entry students was a minimum of 12 points in physics, chemistry and biology. You may want to find out, no student is admitted into a pharmacy faculty except pharmacy is the course of first choice. So, the chance of opting for pharmacy if you cannot study medicine does not even arise most times. As prelim students in Ife, when pharmacy students take courses in mathematics and excel because you are not allowed to carry over, medical students took courses in sociology and economics because they were failing mathematics in numbers. These are verifiable facts. Do find out what it takes to study pharmacy in our universities and I can boldly confirm to you that the rigour is second to none. Just find out from any neutral person who passed through a university where pharmacy is offered. This is why a pharmacist who is worth his salt cannot be consumed by a persecution complex or siege mentality. Why else do you think pharmacists excel in all sectors? Go to the telecoms and check out the number of pharmacists who are at the top echelon at MTN, Airtel, Glo and Etisalat. In banking, pharmacists are directors and vice presidents and so on. Do find out how many pharmacists are in charge of oil and gas companies in Nigeria." NIGERIANS HEALTH ARE IN THEIR HANDS I firmly believe with every fibre of my being that discerning Nigerians of all ages, tribes and regions who are keen about improved quality of life for all Nigerians regardless of the geographical location will key in to the necessity of having consultant Pharmacists in Nigerian hospitals. Barrister Tosin Ayo, in his wisdom gave us a better clue on the meaning of consultancy when he wrote, "The word 'Consultant' is derived from the Latin word: 'consultare' meaning "to discuss". A consultant is thus a professional who has a wide knowledge of a subject matter and who provides professional and expert advice in a particular area such as security (electronic or physical), management, accountancy, law, human resources, marketing, public relations, finance, health, media practice and journalism, engineering, science or any of many other specialised fields. From the foregoing definition, it means any health professional can be a Consultant in his/her own field so long as the medical doctors are not only also made Consultants but remain the traditional Administrative heads of medical institutions." There is wisdom in the words of Albert Einstein when he opined, "In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same." Pharm. Sesan Kareem is a young Nigerian Pharmacist and Author. He writes from Lagos. Sesankareem2@gmail.com — with Dauda Sunday Afolayan-adeyeye . |
Stupid liar! Biochem, anatomy and physiology is done for 18 months not 3 years. Pathology and pharmacology is also for 18 months not 3 years. Moreover, it takes about 6-8 years to finish from West African Postgraduate College of pharmacy depending on the discipline. I don't just know the breakdown, Goan sit down oga! |
allycat: I am a consultant in my field of medicine and I think twice about prescribing Prednisolone because of its potential side effects if not properly monitored. Also when stopping the drug it has to be tailed off, so imagine my shock when I saw someone prescribing online Prednisolone tabs one daily, no duration, no dosage. So if the patient finds a quack to sell him Prednisolone without a prescription he may end up with either 2.5 or 5 or 10 mg. When he gets cataracts or adrenal failure or cushiness disease Sheba it's one useless doctor like me he will rush to and expect miracles. And yes I said quack because no well trained pharmacist will sell these drugs to anyone off the street without a valid prescription. It's before I used to have pity on such patients now when I see them I ask them why they don't go back to the initial "Doctor", why come to me now there are complications that most times are irreversible. From the replies to the doctor pointing out what is wrong here, I am justified in my attitude. Please go and read the Doctors thread an tell me how many times you see them actually prescribe drugs for patients they have not seen.Mr doctor, it's Cushing's disease(pituitary) or Cushing's syndrome (adrenal). It's not cushiness disease. See the quack consultants we're breeding! Vamoose jor!!!! |
All you doctors coming here to complain about her prescribing anti TB drugs and prednisolone, see ehn! God will so punish you!!!! If you know better, why not open a thread and give these patients free consultation? What's wrong if you correct the diagnosis and she attends to the drug issues? |
cococandy: ScallywagEasy on him aunty. He's prolly one of those medical students. |
Emmaesty: I don find husband ohWooww! Cool.. Great oouite! |
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, was waiting for you to come in here and save me from the hands of this beefers. She's calling somone quack but she's has check herself. I will let it slide. I don't even visit the doctors's thread because am too busy but if I have a different opinion, I will kindly give it not coming open am calling somone else a quack. How have you been and how's OOUth ?