₦airaland Forum

listenersky:
Osun - PDP
Ekiti - PDP
Ondo - APC
OYO - APC
Lagos - APC
Ogun - APC

PDP is far more likely to even win in Lagos than Osun. I don't think you are a SWner. Osun has deep divisions between Oyos/Ijeshas and Ifes.
All that Johnny has is Omisore, Oyedokun and Adesiyan three very tainted characters. PDP lost Oyinlola to internal power struggles too early.

All these states are Buhari/Osinbajo states.

softwareman:
You are right about who and who are going to vote for buhari and APC in Lagos.
PDP CONTROLS ALL THE LOCAL GOVTS, SENATE, HOUSE OF REPS, STATE ASSEMBLY SEATS IN LAGOS. THE GOVERNOR IS EVEN PDP. SO WHERE WILL APC VOTES COME FROM!!!

There is positive sentiment for PDP in Lagos. Only it wont transform into electoral victory at the governorship and Presidential elections. PDP will win many assembly seats. I have spoken to many APC supporters who will vote PDP members into the assembly, the sophisticated reason they give is even though the governor has been good, lack of credible opposition in the house has been dangerous financially for the state.

As for governorship and presidential, there are just too many state civil servants, government workers, teachers, APC members and their families, government contactors and Fashola supporters to stem the peeling away of votes for now. Tinubu also has market women locked down tight by his daughter. Maybe 2019 may be different but for now it is APC.

wakacome:
And the clueless president will tell us that they are winning the war...the man is as useless as P in the word "psychology"

This is a good one, 'P' is really useless in 'Psychology'. I am actually beginning to feel we should blame the leadership of the military for most of the lapses. The NAF has not been able to react quickly to raids by BokoHaram and the President might be too scared to call the military to order. Maybe an ex military man will do a better job. Remember most American presidents have been ex servicemen.

chidibond:
So i decided to visit the APC's website today apc.com.ng and saw an opinion poll on what should be the APC's Number 1 agenda if voted into office. Nigerians voted for Employment 16.5%, Education 5%, Healthcare 1%, Corruption 29.5%, Security 15% and Power supply 32.9%. My grouse with this breakdown is that Healthcare got the least number of votes and this is a gross imbalance in my view. In developed countries healthcare is given so much attention and i would thing this was part of the CHANGE we are clamouring for.

Your tots on this. Feel free to state your area of preference.

Healthcare is a big thing in the US and Europe because people live to a ripe old age. I have met many 70 year olds still working and when you ask them it is all about healthcare. Here the life expectancy is just about 57. When we settle the other problems our human development indices will steadily improve and they will start showing significant expectations for healthcare. Now everybody is in a mode of just getting by.

TippyTop:
Elections are not won on the internet, good analysis by the OP but i think jonny boy would win with much wider margin compared to what you gace him.

Gej till Buhari becomes born again.

This pro PDP thread is already against PDP. A 16:17 state ratio is a win for APC if Lagos, Kaduna and Kano are APC.

Fabdedon:
Next update
GEJ : i can ride bicycle more than buhari

GEJ will pilot a canoe better than Buhari.

softwareman:
Projecting 2015 based on 2011 is the the worst premise imaginable. A lot of underlying factor has changed. Most of all APC is very, very diffrent from CPC, Jonathan have lost two much ground and many other factors too innumerable to mention.

Correct. The ship sailed on the PDP just a few months ago. The model of 2011 is so irrelevant for the PDP especially with the defections and the reduced opportunity to rig. For the 2011 elections there were two northerners sharing the votes in their base region and SW. The APC was virtually non existent as a party. Adamawa, Ekiti, Kwara and Edo states are very APC-looking now.
NC states are the real swing states and the best Jonathan can hope for there is a 50:50 split in states won, not even number of votes.

Both faces are beautiful for Christ sakes. I am really losing it with this country. What is the relevance of discussing a young lady's pretty face just four weeks to elections?.

Emytexboy:
Nigeria loses over $6b yearly to crude oil theft, says TUC boss http:///h1gl

Crude oil theft is not more than 100000 barrels a day the equivalent of the balance is just stolen from the treasury directly using oil theft as a cover.

temitemi1:
GEJ till 2019!!!

They have stolen you blind. Refineries to be finished in 2016. Ha Nigeria is finished.

bastien:
all I see in ur post is sentiment.....

All I see in yours is falsehood and shallow mindedness the man is making a speech and I am watching the faces of the audience enthralled and understanding that election rigging and buying of judges is the cause of election violence but all you can come up with is parochial nonsense about his accent.

The woman is speaking now condemning the workshop being done in the presence of the international community discussing our own election malpractice in front of foreigners. That is depth, that is profundity. Please get serious about your life.

Chekwas Okorie UPP is backing Buhari about free and fair elections being a guarantee of no election violence, he said he was also happy Buhari also warned his supporters after some violence. So educated matured Ibo people understand Buhari, it is only the very young ones who have to be 're educated.

buskie13:
can u pls state how de 2011 elections was rigged?
I'd like to know

The 2011 elections were rigged but I concede that the real actual winner was still Jonathan anyway. All the previous elections after Abiolas own were all rigged and declared for the wrong person except 2011.
The 2011 elections were also rigged but declared for the rightful winner.

bastien:
I can't believe my eyes and ears, what is Buhari saying, can't comphrend at all



Illiteracy bad gon.

Jonathan just dey laugh am

This is the best speech I have heard today. You are just being a tribalist I know where this is coming from. The man is not reading a prepared speech but instance by instance in a measured effective way he has espoused the history of elections since 2007 and his experiences in electoral tribunals. What he said about the deployment and redeployment of judges in order to influence elections was very impactful on the audience.
He has exposed all the malpractice previously experienced. Please stop disgracing your generation by posting thrash or showing you don't understand english.

Buhari just spoke from the heart, moving, intelligent, presidential. The message: stop cheating at elections.

PLEASE GET THIS RUBBISH THREAD OF NAIRALAND. I AM TIRED OF KIDS SUGGESTING THE BREAK UP OF NIGERIA. SHALLOW, UN REASONED, THRASH POSTED BY YOUTHS WHO HAVE NOT THOUGHT DEEPLY ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THEIR PROBLEMS OR HAVE THE COURAGE TO FACE IT !!!!!.

KanwuliaJara:
First they are TOUTS. . . (true)
Now, they are hypocrites. . . (true)

Oya KONTINU!

The vote to be shared on FeBuhari will ansa. They will know diaris Godu.

herald9:
Who is Doris David? Has she forgotten that no incumbent president has ever lost an election in Nigeria?


Jonathan should be given a chance to Balance us before Buhari come looking for Change

Jonathan breaks every record. The first president to lose a war in Nigeria, first president to lose 200 girls students.

emmatok:
"YouWIN is not a loan. It is a grant. You don't pay back"-President Jonathan #GEJNigeriasVal

https://twitter.com/renoomokri/status/555024295265857537

This clueless man wants to ruin businesses for the young men and women. How will they operate efficiently if they are not paying back mk neybwith interest?. Most businesses operating on grants and gifts close down in the first year. How do you even justify giving to some people and denying others?.

Kx:
Take out Otueke, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and delta, where exactly is jona strong base?

Not too late to throw in the towel.

Akwa Ibom is no more Jonathan's strong base. Akpabio has performed but there are intra state ethnic tensions and PDP is self destructing

ogb5:
It is only children they can deceive by saying Buhari is some sane person. The adults who witnessed Buhari's wicked regime in 1983 to 1985 will never vote for him.

I can still remember vividly the wild jubilations in the street when the Idiot Buhari was overthrown in 1985.

Forward ever, never should our dear country be made to pass through the stupid economic policies of Buhari again.

He man was retrenching workers daily, teachers and other civil servants were owed salaries for up to 10 months, the idiot changed the colour of the currency, forcing everyone to send their hard earned money to the bank and refusing to allow the banks to release money to the owners, imagine bank rationing your own money to you, while your family is starving for lack of money to buy basic necessities.

Anyone who wish Buhari on Nigerians in this day and age, may God wish the sufferings Nigerians passed through in 1984 and 1985 on such a person. Let those pushing for Buhari say amen to this prayer.

Very big LIE. There were no celebrations when Buhari was overthrown. A lot of doubt was cast on the motives of IBB and his group. The coup was partly financed by Abiola who paid dearly for it and was betrayed by IBB on June 12. I know there is a spiritual regression by most Jonathan supporters who now seem to support the most corrupt head f State nigeria has ever had and the annuller of a democratic elections in Nigeria but it is all indicative of the shock that has seized the Jonathan camp. Reading IBB coup speech at a campaign rally is the lowest of the lows by a sitting president only exceeded by denying the Chibok girls. When God turns his back this is what you see.

Buhari never retrenched workers, all the measures he put in place was to actually keep workers in employment and implement short term solutions to economic problems without devaluation that would have enslaved Nigerians.
Those economic solutions were right for those times and most third world economies were doing the same.What Buhari will do when he comes into power is support local manufacturing and ensure that demand is stimulated within the economy for people to afford goods and services. Expect a boom for the Solid Minerals sector, agriculture with guaranteed profitable pricing, strict anti corruption profile and yes if you are a trader, try to add value to what you are selling. Jonathan has reduced our foreign exchange reserves to less than five months of exports, PDP has a instituted a regime where recurrent expenditure is bloated with legislators taking home $2million each. Billionaires are not paying taxes, one third of oil and gas receipts are stolen. Very big mess and it is not idle chat, you and I will startling it fate elections if nothing is done fast.

seankafor:
If bh enters ghana. I give them two days for ghana to collapse to ashes

Your man is not competent, admit it. An American has also asked me if the President who could not find the missing Chibok girls was going to be on the ballot. I will reply him only after the elections. Most countries have very STRINGENT standards for whoever is going to affect the destiny of millions of their people for 4 years, in Nigeria suffer head has weakened peoples IQ and vision. That is why the same president would be asking why a trusted public official who stole just some little money should be punished so much and his party has not asked him to withdraw.

Kenai:
Really sorry to disappoint you sir, but I refuse to fall into the same web of dumb lies and propaganda marketed by APC charlatans (Like the fairytales on how he built 3 refineries and slashed inflation), so please do us all a favour and supply us with the news stories or statistics that corroborate your story.
Please, we're waiting.

I will do that but please Nigeria is a respected country, stop flashing a newspaper report of an EFFECT due to mistakes of a previous regime and blame the then corrective regime just applying the TREATMENT for those effects.
People may start saying we are actually dumber than they thought we were before.

lyntiffany:
Mr may I announce to you that your the worst liar of the century. Thank God am not the only one who has complained about it and besides I have my eyes and ears listened to him yesterday on AIT.

I don't lie on public media, I too am a little worried about Buhari' s heavily accented and haltingly slow speech.
I think you will find that I always admit my candidate's weaknesses. The only point I am making is that Jonathan has a similar problem compounded by occasional lack of self control, illogicality, childish exaggeration and really silly things a politician does not say in election period we have heard from him.
This will continue as the pressure of campaigning and the poll numbers for Buhari increases he will make really bad FORCED ERRORS which will cost him the elections. Do you wanna bet?.

Kenai:
Well, too bad there were no such manufacturers during Buhari's administration because his "austerity measures" ended up killing off the little industries we had. And those wholesalers and retailers wouldn't have been importing their commodities if there were indigenous manufacturers to meet demands, would they?
You see how you just shot yourself on the foot?

I have told you guys to walk up to the Manufacturers Association of Nigeria and look at the records. There is no need for emotive statements. There are the Uma Eleazus, Omololayoles, Kalus, PZs Kola Jamodus and so on.
Try to find out how these manufacturers body were having to buy import licenses from touts of the then PDP (a stupid party called NPN). A very important company like PZ or Star Paper Mill had to be buying import licenses from political touts. When Buhari came he cleared that rubbish in three months (who born monkey?)
Manufacturers who were adding even the smallest of value had it very easy and were expanding their plants before Jonathan's Fada (IBB) came on the scene and destroyed Nigeria completely.

Trailblazer1:
Great analysis! Let's blame buhari's predecessor and his successor for his failures so that when he fails tomorrow we will also blame it on GEJ.

But bokoharam, poor power supply, unemployment must be blamed on GEJ.

We can blame GEJ because of six years and $100bn spent and stolen on Boko Haram, power supply, unemployment. The non performance is excusable (he is just a fishery zoologist) but the stealing will never be forgiven.

lyntiffany:
you noticed that too? his Yesterday's speech was an apology that people had to leave the venue.

Jonathan's speech is worse. Heavily Ijaw-accented, illogical, appealing to base emotions, full of lies and always absolving himself of all responsibility.

Kenai:
Interesting. But Boko Haram, almajiris, unemployment and poverty in the North are all Goodluck Jonathan's faults?



Don't be a shameless liar, please. You're not talking to your usual gullible preschoolers here.

Buhari was protective of small businesses, yet he had his ESSENTIAL COMMODITIES misadventure which had soldiers breaking into traders' shops and ordering them to sell items at pegged prices which were way below the cost price?
He ended up killing off thousands of small businesses; and 32 years later, you're in here lying to people?

I don't regard wholesalers and retailers of imported goods as engaging in respectable small business. I was referring to manufacturers of goods who established small manufacturing outfits to challenge imported goods.

Only the WORST LIAR would blame Jonathan for Boko Haram and Almajiris.
The almajiri system was caused by Ahmadu Bello, no less. Boko Haram was caused by system corruption worsened by PDP looting, PDP' s culture of using militias, arming them and not dis arming and rehabilitating them after elections.
Why people are blaming Jonathan is because of complicity in escalating the problem, cowardice in standing up to the sponsors, cowardice in standing up to the generals stealing defence funds, lack of care for the suffering in the region and incompetence as commander in chief after Chibok girls adoption. As president, a lot of problems you inherit are not caused by you but you have sworn to tackle them to the best of your ability.

Trailblazer1:
Buhari has been clueless since time immemorial

This was Shagari' s doing. Please there is such a thing as bullwhip effect in economics. If you mess up education during Abacha regime for instance, the effect will be felt by employers and the unemployed themselves during Obasanjo regime. What you saw in that headline actually justifies Buhari's staunch defence of the Naira and import restrictions. By the eleventh month, things had stabilized. I remember sitting in front of a friend of my dad's 2b
who was proudly going to set up a ceramics manufacturing company at that same period and was thanking the government for high import tariffs that were going to save his new business.
I think Buhari, Shonekan and later Abacha (for all his faults) were governments that were very protective of local small scale manufacturing. Obj and Jona were more protective of the Dangote's of this world.

It's 28:8 state advantage to Buhari. With Jonathan's strength only in the SE. Two SS states are currently a toss-up.
The major problem for the party is that the PDP is actually non existent in the north in the context of a Presidential election. There are actually more committed PDP stakeholders in the SW who are unfortunately fighting a losing battle against well grounded opposition. The north will find it hard to commit to a Jonathan presidency at this point.

You are a PDP apologist and possible tribalist to boot. GMB is the next President.
You can go ahead and vote for the losing candidate against the tide of CHANGE that is coming that will not disturb God's plan for Nigeria.

Revenue receipts of the equivalent of 400,000 barrels of crude oil was stolen everyday for 4 years by the Jonathan administration. Royalties, LNG profits, NPDC earnings were also under reported and mismanaged for six years.
All this is on the upstream side alone.

On refined products, the following are the areas where wholesale stealing (not corruption) is on going:
Subsidy refund to marketers by volume
Subsidy refund to marketers by price
Tariffs on imports of petroleum products, many other things were imported under cover of tariff waivers.