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Career / Re: Tension In Foods, Drinks Sector Over Expatriate Quota Abuse by adoyi8: 1:02pm On Dec 27, 2021
please before you sow the seed of xenophobia remember that nigeria also have a high number of people in diaspora and we hold these people in high esteem because they send us dollars.

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Religion / Re: A Challenge For Atheists by adoyi8: 2:24am On Dec 16, 2021
Steep:
Do you know how many prophets of God jezabel and her prophets of baal has killed? Secondly those prophets of baal know that Israel serve Yahweh only and they knew the repercussions of trying to turn Israel away from the Lord their God.

It was saul that commanded David to kill the philistines in order to avenge for what they had done to him.
By the way these were philistine soldiers who probably had dealt with Saul.

1 Samuel 18:25 And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines.

Saul wanted actually to eliminate David, by sending him into the enemies camp.

At that time Israel and philistines were at war.


Just as you cannot be persuaded by emotional appeal to believe in God so that man cannot be persuaded by emotional appeal to believe in something you believe in.

You are giving excuses of why your moral role models took out hideous mass murder that makes atheists like myself shudder. All criminals also have good excuses for their crimes. Do you think Adolf Hitler dont have excuses for executing 6 million jews?

You cannot use emotional appeal to persuade someone to believe something but you can persuade him to take a decision/action using emotional appeal. It is a basic tool of persuasion that even children are experts at using so I dont know why it's hard for you to comprehend.

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Religion / Re: A Challenge For Atheists by adoyi8: 8:31pm On Dec 15, 2021
Steep:
emotional appeal is the biggest tool to convince others, would you be convinced to practice religion based on emotional appeal? You see how insane your argument is.

Samson only avenged what the enemies did to him. It is called justice, Christianity has a different purpose in itself which is to save people's life.

You have not said anything, the truth atheism has no answer.
Without God humanity is nothing but an animal, a beast.

You can sugarcoat Christianity as a moral religion as much as you want but remember one of the most influential role models in the bible, David killed 300 philistines and removed their foreskins just because he wanted to marry abigail. Elijah slaughtered 400 prophets of baal in a single day, I can never imagine doing that as an atheist. So just know that the immoral acts that humans can commit in the name of no religion can also be committed in the name of religion and it is more difficult to dissuade someone who believes that he is carrying an act on command of god.

You cant use emotional appeal to make me believe in God because its something impossible for me to do but people have used emotional appeal to make me go to church or close my eyes to pray and it works frequently.

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Religion / Re: What Advice Will You Give an Atheist That Wants To Believe In God by adoyi8: 5:32am On Dec 15, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You are not making any sense at all. undecided

Again, If he chooses Christianity, then it is best he chooses Jesus Christ over the churches/denominations of men, that is if the Christian God is really his desire and not the antics of men. undecided
That was exactly how pentecostal churches started, They wanted to focus on Jesus Christ over doctrines of men (The Catholic church) and look where they are now. You may sound wise to yourself but there's nothing new you are suggesting and it always lead to the same result; Just another church, another signboard.
Religion / Re: What Advice Will You Give an Atheist That Wants To Believe In God by adoyi8: 10:36pm On Dec 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
But I instead advice the OP to avoid churches of men since they all have absolutely nothing to do with any of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments as recorded in the 4 Gospels. undecided

Again, what is hard with sticking only to what Jesus Christ in fact taught and instructed rather than going along with the doctrines and delusions of men in this? undecided

Any wise person will know that the ways of religious people are slippery like that of a serpent.
It always start with "Oh! its just this one thing you need to do". Then they add more and more and more and before you know it you are in a full blown brand new religion.
Religion / Re: A Challenge For Atheists by adoyi8: 10:28pm On Dec 14, 2021
Steep:
I thought atheism was about proof not emotional appeal that religion uses.

It depends on the concept of God the theist believes in, in Christianity God is love who send Jesus to save the world from their sins.

The biggest tool humans use to convince others is emotional appeal be they atheists or theists. Even children are experts at using emotional appeal on their parents or other adults.


A Christian can pick any garbage from the bible and act on it. What if the person is convinced that god wants him be like samson? To die by committing suicide as long as it will also destroy the lives of infidels.

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Religion / Re: What Advice Will You Give an Atheist That Wants To Believe In God by adoyi8: 10:12pm On Dec 14, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
In Christianity, it isn't hard to cloth only to that which Jesus Christ said instead of getting distracted by the many doctrines and traditions of men and their churches out there. All one has to do is stick to and only believe and only that which Jesus Christ is recorded to have taught and instructed His followers to do, as is written in only 4 of the about 66 books in the bible. How can that be hard? undecided

Most churches started because their founders thought they found better ways of being christ like but they ended up being just another church. like I said, its easier said than done.
Religion / Re: A Challenge For Atheists by adoyi8: 10:06pm On Dec 14, 2021
Steep:
Now, here is a challenge for atheists.

This is an hypothetical situation,
A man, Let's say Mr A, was able to somehow lay hold on a nuke that could destroy all humanity at a bottom, and he is determined to detonate it. How would you persuade such a person not to do it. Mind you he believes
1. There is no God neither any punishment for sins and misdeeds.
2 He believes the universe or multiverse is nothing else but ever changing forms of energies/energy.
3. Morality or what's not are all evolutionary construct to make so called higher organism to think life is special in other for organism like humans to continue to propagate.
4. Since love, hatred, good evil are all product of subatomic interactions, there is nothing really evil or good other than that that is determine by fundamental forces of nature.

How would you convince such a man not to push that button?

This is really the same as when the person is religious, you use emotional appeal and then you hope. in fact it will be more difficult to persuade him not to if he is a religious person and he believes his god wants him to do it.

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Religion / Re: What Advice Will You Give an Atheist That Wants To Believe In God by adoyi8: 9:29pm On Dec 14, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
If he chooses Christianity, then it is best he chooses Jesus Christ over the churches/denominations of men, that is if the Christian God is really his desire and not the antics of men. undecided
Easier said than done like most other religious claims.
Religion / Re: What Advice Will You Give an Atheist That Wants To Believe In God by adoyi8: 9:18pm On Dec 14, 2021
If the atheist chooses islam, Should he choose Sunni or shia? okay lets say he chooses christianity, catholic or pentecostal? if pentecostal, baptist? seventh day? jehova witness? deeper life or christ embassy?

Remember that lies have many versions.
Religion / Re: What Does It Mean That God Is Just? by adoyi8: 6:45pm On Nov 14, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:




However, if there is any mitigating facts in the case which may reduce or alltogether remove guilt, A Mercy Full Judge as God is, will take hold of that fact and apply it to the case.

If the judgement on a case is adjusted based on what you call mitigating facts then it is still justice and not mercy.

This thing is straight forward but I have noticed that your moniker loves complicating simple things and moving round and round for the sake of argument so I would love if a more straight forward person attempts to answer the question.
Religion / Re: What Does It Mean That God Is Just? by adoyi8: 9:33am On Nov 14, 2021
lighteverywhere:
When Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis 3), justice could not overlook it. Their crime does not seem so great to us who wear Adam’s skin. But consider it from heaven’s viewpoint. The great Lord God Almighty, unchallenged Ruler of everything, Lord of angel armies, worthy of all adoration and worship had been defied by the dust He had formed into people. He had made these creatures for His own purpose and pleasure. He showered love and bounty on them. But He also gave them free will. So He showed them their options and told them the consequences.

“Please don’t,” He said, and the pleading in His voice warned them of what He knew would result if they did not obey. “We will do as we please,” they responded, and at that moment the creature committed high treason against the Creator. Justice demanded action. For God to overlook or excuse the treason would not be just. Because God is just, He cannot make a rule, establish the penalty, and then not follow through when the rule is broken. Because God is also love, He had a way to satisfy justice without destroying human beings. Justice required the death penalty for high treason, so something or someone had to die. A substitute was brought in to satisfy the demands of justice. A beautiful, flawless animal was killed instead (Genesis 3:21).

Thousands of years later, justice was satisfied once and for all as God sent His own Son into the world to be our substitute (2 Corinthians 5:21). “Please don’t,” He has cried throughout the ages. “We will do as we please,” we have responded. God cannot merely overlook our high treason against Him, or He would not be perfectly just. He cannot retract His love, despite our rebellion, or He would not be perfect love. So Jesus became the Lamb (John 1:29) that God sacrificed on the altar of justice. Christ “died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God” (1 Peter 3:18).

Because justice has been satisfied, God pronounces “not guilty” upon all those who are in Christ (Romans 3:24), those who call on His name (John 1:12). Justice now insists that, once a sin has been paid for, it cannot be brought up again. When our sins are under the blood of His sacrifice, God holds them against us no more (Romans 8:1; Colossians 2:14; 1 Peter 2:24; Isaiah 43:25). God remains just; He is not violating His own code of justice by pardoning those who deserve its consequences. Salvation IS a just consequence because God has pronounced Jesus’ death and resurrection sufficient to satisfy His wrath. The curse of the Law that we justly deserved has been taken by Jesus on the cross (Galatians 3:13).

God is just, and His justice is an indispensable part of His character in the same way that His love and mercy are indispensable. Without His justice, sin would run unchecked. Evil would win. There would be no reward for obedience. We could not respect a god who was not just. Micah 6:8 summarizes the top three qualities God wants to see reflected in us: “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-is-just.html
Christians also claim that God is merciful but is it possible to be both just and merciful at the same time? since mercy simple means suspension of justice.
Religion / Re: What Does It Mean That God Is Just? by adoyi8: 9:30am On Nov 14, 2021
LiwaConsult:
Please I need an answer to some questions bothering me.

1. Since God is Omniscient, he knows everything, how come he knew devil will tempt Eve, yet he still created devil?

2. Since he knows everything, he would have prevented the world from turning to what it is today, but why didn't he?

3. He knows casting down the devil and demons to the earth will make them torment man and make them turn their hearts away from him, yet he still did it, why?

I will love answers to these questions.


Religion is for ignorant and feeble minded people so I will give you two options; Either you close your mind and continue in your religion relying on faith or you save your time and jump into the next phase these questions will surely lead you to which is abandoning religion and facing other important aspects of your life.

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Religion / Re: Actress Etinosa Reacts As Pastor Enenche Heals A Man With Crutches (video) by adoyi8: 6:25pm On Nov 11, 2021
This man left his practical doctor profession to start doing pretend healing.
Religion / Re: The Nin-e-naira And The Mark Of The Beast by adoyi8: 10:58am On Oct 30, 2021
Abeg I get exams next week. please help with the igbo wey you smoke remain before you type this thing.

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Sports / Re: Osimhen’s Late Goal Against Torino Secures Napoli’s Eight Straight Serie A Win by adoyi8: 7:42am On Oct 18, 2021
ahnie:
Attention all.... please in case you're using piggyvest pls go wildraw your monies.piggyvest is going down any moment from now.
are you serious?
Religion / Re: What Did God Says About Betting/gambling by adoyi8: 7:02pm On Oct 12, 2021
Macheque:

How?
Where in book of job?
God and Satan argued about Job then they placed a bet to see if satan can make Job turn his back on God. God also permitted Satan to kill Jobs ten children.
Religion / Re: What Did God Says About Betting/gambling by adoyi8: 8:08am On Oct 11, 2021
Macheque:
I need views and every reasonable perspective about this matter

I have a friend who has make sport Betting as an investment, actually he was really making profit. And I also has seen that this investment has changed his financial status

Now my question is that: WHAT IS GOD SAYS ABOUT BETTING/GAMBLING?
If you read book of jobs then you will understand that God is the father of gambling.
Business / Re: Union Bank’s Principal Owner ‘considering Sale Of 50% Stake’ by adoyi8: 4:19pm On Jan 24, 2021
nurez305:
I wonder who uses all thes banks, Union bank, keystone , polaris, fcmb, wema and sterling bank ..... I use to think maybe they had no choice in getting major bank account or they hate anything innovation In their life
Union bank is my primary account. I had to start using Union Bank in 2014 when I won nnpc/chevron scholarship as they only pay through union bank. It was a rough ride at first but since we bent our horse from his vertical position to start facing front, everything has been going smoothly.

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Religion / Re: The Only Thing That God Cannot Do Does Not Exist. by adoyi8: 9:52pm On Jan 16, 2021
Can God create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it? If he can then he is not all powerful and if he cant then he cannot do all things.

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Celebrities / Re: Davido Reacts After An Artist Drew A Beautiful Painting Of Him On A Dollar Bill by adoyi8: 4:03pm On Nov 23, 2020
Nairaland - Twitter for those who cant tweet.

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Science/Technology / Re: Four Astronauts Make History With Spacex Launch by adoyi8: 12:51pm On Nov 16, 2020
The reason why Africans cannot do this is because they will not even attempt to do it. They will remember of what happened when men try to challenge by building the tower of Babel.

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Celebrities / Re: Pre-Wedding Pictures Of Williams Uchemba And His Wife To Be by adoyi8: 11:34am On Nov 14, 2020
I feel old

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Crime / Re: How Scammers From Europe Use Phones To Cheat People In Africa by adoyi8: 5:42pm On Nov 02, 2020
I attended their zoom meeting once and left the meeting when they started asking for registration money.

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Religion / Re: Man Buried For One Year Was Still Breathing VIDEO by adoyi8: 6:30am On Oct 29, 2020
This post just shows that Nigerians are lazy thinkers they swallow everything that suits their agenda. Some people are even using it to discredit science already. Someone made such a huge claim and nobody is asking questions like what is the mans name, where did it happen, where is the mans picture before he died, where are the mans relatives. These are basic things that legit news outlets will carry.

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Religion / Re: Why Doesn't God Answer My Prayers? by adoyi8: 4:05pm On Aug 28, 2020
Imagine if everytime we try to make call our call doesnt go through and MTN keep giving us excuses like we didn't have enough Faith. Imagine if the only evidence we have about calls are testimonies from people we don't know and are far between do you think we will still waste our money on buying phones and trying to make calls?
Religion / Re: Question From Bible by adoyi8: 12:30pm On Aug 26, 2020
Maximus69:


Blessed/Happy are those conscious of their spiritual needs! Matthew 5:3
Your problem is money, of course you think of how to boost the skills to make you marketable while you're still alive {Ecclesiastes 7:12} but this person is thinking of what happens when he's old and can't do anything again, when it's time to say farewell to the earth and all it's struggles! Ecclesiastes 12:1
Don't think your problem should be everyone's problem, you're on faceless social media where you can't distinguish between a billionaire (whose problem is not money) and a pauper (whose thinking is all about how to survive)!

So learn from the below picture smiley

I understand the undertone to your message. You are insinuating that I am looking for money because I am poor while the OP doesn't care about money because he is rich but these are all assumptions and attempt to earn cheap points because you don't know me and you don't know OP so there is no way you can know who is richer but your core belief is based on assumptions and blind faith so I am not even surprised.
Religion / Re: Question From Bible by adoyi8: 11:18am On Aug 26, 2020
People are learning online courses to boost their skills this one want to study the bible. The best selling book of confusion.
Religion / Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 4:54pm On Aug 16, 2020
obonujoker:


Any man who gets rich without the Lord Jesus, is a thief and a robber... And a robber cannot inherit the kingdom of God
If Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Mark that got rich by providing services to humans are thieves what about the pastors that manipulate their church members into giving them 10 percent of their salaries every month?
Religion / Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by adoyi8: 1:06pm On Aug 16, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
The power to get wealth comes from and/or is permitted by God. It is God who gives the power to get wealth. Has you ever since a sick person get wealth, huh? Have you ever seen a person with brain power get wealth, hmm?

Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, knew that the young rich couldn't follow Him, when he is fixated on his riches, so He asked him to first dispose it al then follow Him. The young rich man riches had a strong hold on him, so he declined the the suggestion.

It is impossible to be a believer, if mammon is your god. The disciples of Yahsua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, the likes of Apostle Peter were all, to a good degree, rich individuals. Apostle Paul, had to beg for donations to be given for other churches. Believers honor God with their acquired wealth



Thank you for clarifying that wealth comes from God even though Yashua Ha mashsiach aka Jesus Christ said that it will be easier for the head of a camel to pass through a needle than for a rich man to see the kingdom of God. You said Jeff Bezos, Mark zuckerberg, Bill gates Elon Musk etc are the anti christs. Now why would God give wealth to anti christs when some believers are suffering in poverty?
Religion / Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by adoyi8: 11:33am On Aug 16, 2020
Inteltower:


That's why you should enter into the family of God to understand how judgement will be made on that day
your question is easy to answer but won't waste my time on people: a fallen race clouded by assumption and wickedness who have no moral standing to judge God
Oh! you want me to enter the family of God first so that you will blackmail me with faith before explaining it abi? Like telling me it doesnt have to make sense but I should use faith to believe any gibberish explanation you give abi? been there, done that.

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Religion / Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by adoyi8: 11:05am On Aug 16, 2020
Ofemmanu1:

Jesus died for the sins of the world.
He died on the cross of Calvary.
He arose again on the third day.

Those three lines are real bro.
Evidences are all over.
Just think about it.

What will happen to your Igbo ancestors that did not know or believe in Jesus before they died. Remember that Jesus said he is the only way to God so it means that all your ancestors will be roasted in hell for not believing something they did not hear while you their descendant will be bowing day and night singing praises to the wicked being that is roasting your ancestors unjustly. I pity for you.

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