elated177:
A better evidence than me does not exist. I am evidence of the Creator of heaven and earth, YHVH Almighty, my Father in heaven.

You are an evidence that your parents had sex, thats all.

MaxInDHouse:


Have you ever read a fictional book where the author confidently predicted what will happen if people choose to believe what is in the book?
Well the Bible's Author perfectly predicted that a time will come on this planet when some people from all over the earth will come together and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers. While those who don't believe (trust) this book will be fighting and killing one another over politics, believers in this book will use what is written in it to settle all their disparities, they will agree on the same line of thought, they will divert all their resources into production of food and information materials, they will erase the use of weapons from their hearts and stop being soldiers even those who are soldiers formerly will resign! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Well it is happening right now!
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have gathered people from all the races on this planet and all what is written in that book they are fulfilling perfectly!

Jesus predicted that some of his disciples will be alive during rapture but it didn't happen. Charles Taft Russel the founder of Jehovah witness wrongly predicted rapture twice.
According to the Quran, a time will come when everyone on earth will be muslim. Today, Islam is officially the fastest growing religion on earth. Maybe the quran is the true word of god.

MaxInDHouse:

The Author is not human so you can't expect His book to correlate with physical things you're used to.
But when you humble yourself just to see why some intellectuals have high regard for the book then you will know the purpose why the Author sent us the book!

I have read alot of fictional and non fictional books that are better written than the bible. If God cannot communicate to us better than humans then why call him God?

MaxInDHouse:

The Author is not human so you can't expect His book to correlate with physical things you're used to.
But when you humble yourself just to see why some intellectuals have high regard for the book then you will know the purpose why the Author sent us the book!

What if I use this mindset to read the quran?

Dtruthspeaker:


The mere fact you had Liars for Teachers does not vitiate Truth, Truths as expressed in the Bible which is substantially corroborated by Nature and Natural Living.

But as Nature has also shown us, there are amongst us people who choose death over Life eg Overspeeders, Drug Users, sexual promiscuity etc.

But exactly as the Bible said, people do have a choice to choose Life or death, Blessings or Curses and after they have chosen, there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Why do you like assuming things too much? did I tell you that people lied to me? I read the bible myself and it didn't correlate with reality.

Dtruthspeaker:


You did not need to say it, we all see and know why you declared your Anti-God position. Your elders in company have so disclosed them all, so we know.

Secondly, your explanation is so ridiculous and laughable. How can a person have travelled from Lagos to Kaduna with a Toyota Highlander only to reach Kaduna and say that he abandoned the vehicle to walk back down to Lago?

Even a Primary 5 Student will not believe you.

But anyway, it's your story and your life you choose to destroy or maintain as you think good or evil for you. I am not affected anyway.

I left religion because it is full of lies. The ridiculous claims they made did not conform to reality so I chose reality and I can defend my choice anywhere because it wasn't made out of fear or hatred but out of search for knowledge and truth.

Wilddove:
so many religions people thinks that being an atheist is a choice.

They won't understand because being in religion is like wearing shaded eye glasses, Christians wear blue shaded glasses and everything looks blue to them, Muslims wear red shaded glasses and everything looks red to them. Atheism is like removing those glasses and seeing everything for what they are.

Dtruthspeaker:


Translation, "I prayed for stupid things and God did not answer me so, I learnt that I could at least go get those stupid things for myself!" End of Translation!

Where did I say that I left christianity because I prayed for something and didn't get. You guys just watched heaven is real and believe that people become atheists because they are angry with god. on the contrary, I became an atheist when I was in 100level, few months before that I prayed to god for admission and I got it. My life was very comfortable as it is now. I have no reason to be angry with god.
I became an atheist because life without god in the equation makes more sense to me. With god it is full of lies, loopholes, contradictions and unnecessary fears.

Atheism wasnt a choice to me. I begged God to help me stop having doubt but it was too late because I had eaten the forbidden fruit of knowledge. I later realised that forcing myself to believe in God after what I knew was like a child forcing himself to crawl after learning to walk so I set myself free and never turned back that was when everything made sense.

jesusjnr2020:
I perfectly understand your language for someone who could possibly believe that a perfectly good, loving, caring, kind God is wicked and evil.

Moreover Jesus was also falsely accused of being a fraudster multiple times by the real fraudsters, so it's a real honor to be accused of same by same.

I dont believe god is wicked and evil, he doesn't have the ability to be wicked or evil because he doesn't exist.

And you are less like Jesus and more like judasjnr2020.

jesusjnr2020:
Yeah kudos to him indeed.

I was never expecting a God-hater to be able to comprehend my point in the first place.

I was neither expecting a multiple accused fraudster to have empathy for other people.

jesusjnr2020:
They haven't got the least idea of what it means to lower the standard of holiness if so.

Pastor Kumuyi is trying to get it right in areas he got it wrong at first.

So kudos to him.

Kudos to him? Think of the people whose life he has negative and permanently affected over the years. Those he asked not to accept particular job offers because they were not in line with his version of christianity, those children affected psychologically by denied chance to watch entertainment tv with friends and those he told to refuse medical care and rely only on prayers. If he want to change he should come out and apologise first.

Let's be guided and stop making everything about tribalism because only God understand the kind of economic situations people are finding themselves in Nigeria and hunger no get tribe.

MaxInDHouse:


OK arrogance because i stood up for what is right, and inferiority complex because i admitted that my ancestors got the concept of God wrongly, shey?
And what have you displayed with everything you're using including the device in your hand right now as all were invented by people from other races?

Its not wrong to copy from others but its good you copy useful things. Okay I am on a forum created by a Nigerian who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions and I am also using a phone by asians who chose foreign science/tech over foreign religions. You on the hand chose foreign religion over foreign science and wouldn't let us hear word. I wish you can use miracles to convince us but no its just noise up and down.

MaxInDHouse:

They were humans with brain like me so if it worths defending as in if they have accurate knowledge of what they had surely they would have defended it!

I am just wondering how you are able to display both arrogance and inferiority complex in one post.

MaxInDHouse:


You're right, because FAITH in God is not about COMMON SENSE rather it's got to do with the UNCOMMON SENSE! 2Thessalonians 3:2

I wish your ancestors defended their traditional religion the way you are defending this foreign religion.

common sense is becoming common

adeoyekay:
I mean God

well God didn't create me.

adeoyekay:
Try to get me right what am trying to figure out is that we read about it but do you witnessed it when the CREATOR formed you.

I was not created by one person so I dont understand what you mean by creator.

adeoyekay:
Do you know how you was created?

Why wouldn't I know how I was created? Even people that didnt study biology know how they were created.

adeoyekay:
As I am unable to trace on how I was formed, created make me believe

Lol. you don't know how you were created? How old are you?

Dude397:
How far Prophet TB Joshua?

Guy you wicked

CUMINposts 8=108946375:


Do you realize that definition of 'alien' is things/being we don't understand or where they came from. Whatever they will find you and I can't say for certain that this will be their form or behavior. All we can do is speculate.

You said earlier that aliens are jinns so you as muslim should be able to speculate their form or behaviour and tell us more about them, am I right?

CUMIN:


Yeah some people actually see them. But a natural man in his logical state of mind might go mad with such sighting.

I understand that there are some verses in the quran that jinns dont like so the verses are used to cast them out. If those verses are recited to aliens and it doesn't affect them will you still call them jinns?

CUMIN:


Actually there are jinn in pyshical form. But they are not visual to the natural man.

What if the aliens are visible to the natural man will you still call them jinns?

CUMIN:


Duals.

They are by default invisible to the natural man. The sometimes possess other humans to perform physical action.

so they have to possess other humans to perform physical actions. What if they show you an alien in its own physical form, will you still call it a jinn?

CUMIN:


The only alien mentioned in the Quran is 'Jinn'.
You can Google about jinn. They're made of smokeless flame. They have good and evil amongst them.

Quran have made it clear right from time

Are jinns physical beings or spiritual beings?

The God debate managed to survive evolution through theistic evolutions and inconclusiveness of science on the origin of life but can it survive the alien discovery? I wonder how christians and muslims will twist their holy books to accomodate it.

codemaniacs:


Foreign investors who ensure majority of their employees are foreigners are not reducing unemployment they're increasing unemployment..

Foreign investors take the profits back to their country.. profits are always higher than taxes..

taxes are crumbs compared to profits.. which means taxes are lower than profits.

I wonder where you learn your economics from. Direct employment is not the only way to gain from foreign investment. Do these foreigners not live in nigeria? Do they not spend their money in nigeria?

codemaniacs:


Not when the foreigners share the same ethnicity as the C.E.O of the company..

Overpaying is not a problem as long as the company continues to make profits.

It's not about getting the special value it's about empowering their countrymen.

One important way to reduce unemployment is by attracting foreign investors. No matter how many foreign workers they employ they must directly or indirectly create jobs for the locals and pay taxes on top. So lets look at the big picture and not let tribal instincts control us.

codemaniacs:




A foreigner is paid $3000 ( ₦1,233,600 ) per month. while a more qualified Nigerian is paid ₦90, 000 per month in Nigeria...

that means the monthly salary of 1 foreigner can employ an additional 12 Nigerians who are paid ₦90, 000 per month...

you say we have to many poor people yet to be worried about " few jobs these foreigners take"... from the above explanation, the foreigners are the ones making sure Nigeria has many poor people because by bringing in these foreigners they are helping the foreign countries by reducing the foreign countries unemployment situation while increasing Nigeria's unemployment situation which leads to poverty.

No company will like to overpay salaries when they can get same value at a lower amount. I bet you there must be some special values these companies are getting from their foreign workforce.