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Election has come and gone...we are all facing the consequences..weda u voted or ddnt vote...
But somehow ....we have entered another level of blaming our poor choice of leadership on another group that also did not want to vote for the same weréy leadership??


I'm not getting it ...

Kukutente23:
I don't know what you mean by I'm carnally minded. I assume we're having an adult conversation on sex and sexuality.

u are carnally minded means u are only viewing this issue from an animal point of view .. we are humans..... that's why we have rules of inappropriateness, ethics, morals, and of course legality about such matters

Kukutente23:
You need to carry out proper research on this subject. The age of consent and maturity are social and legal construct not based on research.

lol... u are the one that needs proper research.....social and legal constructs are also research driven to begin with...

Kukutente23:
It was once fixed at 12 even in Western countries. ....

so how did u think they arrived at 18?? U think they just did so because they felt like protecting kids...?? How did they arrive at kids needing protection after u have established they are mature .....Baba, please go and read clinical psychology journal on this issue and see how they are used to established law in the west....

.......It's research that is used in other spheres of society... For example..a chemical used in preservation and coloring thats classified as food grade many years ago may now be classed as illegal this year with new research outcomes.....

Kukutente23:
A 12 year old child is sexually mature in the physical sense. The fear there is that they shouldn't be taken advantage of since they do not have full gasp of the social and potential physiological implications..

This is funny....so why are u looking at the issue from an animalistic POV alone, when maturity should be viewed from mental and bodily maturity altogether....??

U keep trying to justify sex btw a boy and and an adult woman as just sex btw animals and therefore no biggie....... Yet u agree laws are made because pple can take advantage of them....
So I ask?? Is it not just sex the two wants?? What do u now agree that one can take advantage of the other when u also feel both a matured for sex??
Why is the fear that they can be taken advantage of still there??

Baba...It's because these children only appear bodily mature but are in many ways still a minor in the mind which is what makes us who we are........they are not mentally matured enough to under the full implication of their actions....
For example....research shows that Children that learn sex from movies or porn0graphy are only driven by impulse to act out what they've seen....but because movies never portray the use of protection, hardly ever show pple get pregnant or have herpes or HIv, and other negative outcomes from reckless sex engagement ....these children are never experienced enough to consent .....

Kukutente23:
In this case, the debate is not about the social and physiological implications since it's obvious the young man is not doing it under duress..

that's the thing...u don't even have knowledge on how pple can be a willing participant in sex yet be under duress....u are claiming obvious from a video....
If this happened btw the teacher and a 9 year old u will still see the same thing in the video ...because sex is a pleasure act that most pple need discipline to resist even as adult.....so it makes the matter worse that an over 30 year old adult is doing such with a boy.....
U can't conclude there anything including from the video u watched....

Kukutente23:
Minus the age of consent, this will definitely qualify as consensual.

it will not fly as consensual because power imbalance is involved in this case and that's what pple like u with only animalistic view of sex don't see

Kukutente23:
The age factor is just used as a baseline to protect the younger ones.

it is not just a baseline....it is arrived at considering both mental and bodily maturity which cannot be separated and functions together in a person....

Kukutente23:
There's no human knowledge that has ever put the age of puberty at 9

The muslims and Arabs beg to differ....just as u are trying to carnally present maturity to be a matter of what u see........the Muslims also put theirs at 9 since many children start growing pubic hair and even start menstruating around that age ...
.infact...a 6 year old has gotten pregnant and delivered a child before....

Baba...I notice u keep trying to down play the reason behind establishment consent age at 18. U keep making it look like something that's done just for protection if these minors but it doesn't mean they are not ready to be fvcked..

but I ask u again....why do these children need to be protected if they are ready for sex and sex is what the adults want from them..??

If u see your 15 year son doing this same thing to a gay man of 33 years....I'm sure u will scream that the man must manipulated and groomed him.....

Kukutente23:
So how come there are people at 30s and 40s that are not good in bed.

first...sir what do u mean by "not good in bed?" Is it until pple behave like porn0graphy actors that they are good in bed??
See ehn...One of problem with the last two generation is media driven standard ...u find 8 and 9 year olds who have seen vagin@, breasts and even raw sex their parents have never seen..... And when these sexually derailed children act out their derailed mind....you the equally lustful, carnally minded adults praise and them as matured and experience...that's not maturity sir...

Kukutente23:
It's obvious this is not his first sexual encounter but I doubt you can pin that on the lady in question since the story is that she came from the US to Zimbabwe and decided to take up a temp teaching job.

she's an educator sir.....we can pin everything on her because shes guilty of abuse of student, abuse of office, and power manipulation because power imbalance is involved in this issue......I don't know why you all only see sex btw two humans from the animalistic point of view of sex.....we are humans for a reason and not a dogs ....
...that a person's p€nis can rise doesn't mean it can enter any hole.....i mean......that's how we arrived at all the madness of sexual corruption we have in the world today

Kukutente23:
Besides, it seems you're making it as if all sexual encounters that people labelled minor have is basically predatory.

how did I label all sex minors have as predatory... We are talking about a 33 year old and a 16 year old boy.....how did u arrive at all ??

Kukutente23:
Most minors engage in sexual activity out of their own volition either with their peers or in the case of males especially with prostitutes.

which they shouldn't be doing in the first place because they lack the mind frame to handle the outcomes involved......
...a pr0stitute is a morally bankrupt person and shouldn't be sleeping with a minor in the first place..

The problem is ...You are looking at the issue from a carnal and basic biological point of view however....there is a legal, ethical and moral side of it wrapped together....see......if for example a 17 year old boy sleeps with your 13 year old daughter.. u won't say all your are saying

Kukutente23:
You didn't get my point though. I'm saying the age of consent is purely mechanical not biological

I get ur point...ur problem is ..u want us to view sex btw a 16 year old boy and his 33 year old teacher purely from only the angle of p£nis can rise and there is a v@gina that can gladly collect

But the truth is age consent it is not pure mechanical ...research is poured into these things before establishing law....for example if u approach a 9 year old for sex which Muslims consider as old enough...
There's is a greater chances the child won't say no, perhaps because they've been exposed to sex online or tv they shouldn't have and therefore assume they shouldn't be doing same , or they trust who is trying to molest them, or they fear the person....altogether such a child has not developed nor under the implications of saying no or yes...

.... A human being must fully understand the implication of what they are engaging in before they are tagged legally matured to give consent......and that's what research and legal consent age brings to the table...

Most children, early & mid teenagers are driven by only impulse only with no sense of responsibility or implication and should not be considered matured to give consent to anything that involves pleasure l, from sex to drugs to alcohol etc....

Kukutente23:
If you claim that most 16 year olds make stupid decisions why then do we allow them choose what they want to become in life and which universities to attend?

lol... u are becoming desperate just to prove a point.....even a 6 year old can sometimes decide they want or dont want in some context/situations.....Comparing sex to continuing study from secindary school after most are expected to be 18 shows how desperate u are to prove a point.....i get ur desperation shaaa....u are carnally driven in the issue...

Kukutente23:
We have 16 year olds that have made serious scientific discoveries.

u are only shooting ur argument in the leg.....give me 5 examples of such sixteen year olds that have made serious scientific discoveries and I will show you the positive impact of if not being exposed to sexual corruption in developmental years especially by predatory adults......

Kukutente23:
Like I said, ageing or growing up is a biological process not mechanical so pinning sexual activity on a particular age is subjective and not based on reality

U are too carnally driven...that's why u dont think sexual activity should start at a mentally ready stage and not only a biological ready stage...
When Muslims start to tell u 9 year old are ready to be sexually taken...y'all tackle them .... Yet y'all turn round and say contradictory...

Kukutente23:
The video brings to the fore the obvious conflict between age of consent and age of sexual maturity
Sex is a biological act and having sex has to do with physical development and hormones and not age. Age factor was brought in to protect young ones from predators. The fact is looking at that boy, he's every bit matured for sex just as most 16 year old girls are also. The point I'm making is that sex is basically biological and in biology, there's no mechanical set time for testosterone or adrenaline to start pumping. The time they start differ for each person because it's simply biological. Two babies born same day will not grow teeth, sit, crawl, walk, speak the same day. Thus, while the lady's behaviour is irresponsible, the boy's demeanor shows this is not rape in the classical sense. In the legal sense, which is not something that biology respect, it is statutory rape though

So maturity is about how he handled the sexual activity.?? If anyone is introduced to sex early they will handle it well even at 12 or 13....what u pple are failing to see is that boy ddnt start today .....that woman or someone else started abusing that boy earlier than now

Y'all Are just trying to explain what's wrong as right......when u see most 16 year olds take decisions in life that's when u know they are stvpid and the pple that established them minors know what they are doing.......

kingthreat:
Hmmm, so before 2024 Zimbabwe government no get sense abi? Morally yeah it is wrong but on a legal ground, it is a young adult enjoying himself. At 16, I had so much sexual energy and some of my mates were already exploring themselves. Accusing them of being abused when they did it with ladies older than them is crap.

in Iran ...someone woke up and updated the a marriageable age for girls to 9 years old......see ehn, we humans know the right thing...we just want to do evil....

Some pple sat down and did research about on the impact of early sexual exposure which made them establish 18 years as legal age of consent....
There was a time alcohol drinking age was 18, later it was moved to 21..na research

...some pple are exposed to drinking as early as 5 ears old....because the effect is not immediately visible doesn't mean this things doesn't impact the mind and body in some way
.... But una too dey carnally and lustful driven ..... So Na only physical outlook una dey see

erniok2:
Why not just call it statutory rape instead of throwing the word rape around.

Ur point is??
Is statutory rape not rape??

We4all:
I find the emboldened very funny and couldn't help laughing. Don't blame me for what aunt Jumoke did to you as a teenager. But I'm sure you must have enjoyed it.

Lol....Another classic rapist and rape apologist defence .....telling the victim they must have enjoyed it.......these are the same things men say when women get raped for going to the house of the rapist.....


Again ...u just a Rape apologist justifying sexual abuse, abuse of trust, abuse of office, just to mention a few of the teachers offense.

I would have told you again to go online to educate yourself on academic research of impact on rape on boys/ men......but Sadly... shameless pple like you cannot be shamed and are too carnally minded to see admit wrong doing

kingthreat:
Is Nigeria better than Italy where the age of consent is 16?
Also, just checked that in Zimbabwe where it happened, age of consent is 16. So what's your case actually?

First ...Zimbabwe updated age of consent to 18 years old on Monday 15 January 2024.

Even if consent age is 10 years old or even worse ....The teacher will still be found guilty for abuse of trust, abuse of office, because power imbalance will always be established in cases like this btw teacher and student

Haven't you heard of cases btw senior and junior staffs in work places?? That's even btw two adults ...despite sex started with consent .it has been established over and again that the power imbalance makes consent technically under threat, fear or duress, either for loss of their job, poor appraisals, etc

We4all:
If the boy were my son and I see him in such an explicit video, I won't consider it rape. I would rather be disappointed for raising such a promiscuous son. I might even consider donating him to charity because a son like that is a menace to the society.

On a normal day...that's one of the classic rape apologist defence...They paint the victim as an enabler of the crime that happened....its the same defence the perpetrator of the rape use to justify their act.....

U know what's funny? ur desperation in justifying this ......i mean.....there should be potential sex offenders list for women like you to protect boys since you see nothing wrong with fvcking a minor because he's a boy......

.. And yes...i noticed you repeatedly called him a boy, which is what he still is...a boy!! In every measure ....yet your carnal, dlrty rape apologist mind couldn't establish what is wrong.....

If you care to know.... there are enough clinical journals on line on psychological impacts of rape on boys and even men

Angelfrost:
You are either confused or just trying to be smart by half.

Laws regarding rape and sexual abuse are age-based, not gender-based.


The teacher above is guilty of Statutory Rape (look this up)! Period!

He's not even smart in anyway.....he's just judging the issue by his lustful/carnal mind....

kingthreat:
In many countries, 15-16 is an age of consent.

Which country??

frank317:
he is no rape apologist... the boy did not rate the teacher, infact, he could have even been the one who raped the teacher.... yes we will say a different thing when the table turn because men and women aint simply the same... a 33 years old man sleeping with 17 years old girl is rape given conditions that result in sex among both genders

U can try to justify rape by how it looks, who seduced who, and any condition you can find..
But those who established that minors cannot give consent to rape irrespective of their gender are not stvpid because at child or under age brain level boys and girls and similar....

...when it happens to your son buy him a play station and throw a party

If u care to know, there are hundreds of clinical psychology journals on the long term psychological impact of rape on boys/men

We4all:
Lol... Don't allow emotions to blind your judgement. It was the boy that seduced the teacher, and not the other way.

Lol...Emotions?? See u justifying rape with all vocabulary u can find...
what has emotions gotta do with established law ..u think those that established that under 18 are minors and cannot consent to sex are stupid??
...16,17 year old girls seduce their fine older teacher all the time....doesnt change the fact that it's statutory rape ..... U are a rape apologist and u should be ashamed of urself because u won't say the same if ur son was involved..

Tueshh!!

We4all:
A 16 year old boy is old enough to reject the advances of his teacher. Physically, he is even stronger and from the video, he wasn't rape.

However, people tend to raise alarm if an older man sleeps with a teenage girl because they mostly do it forcefully; even threating them with death. So, comparing both scenarios is absurd!

U are just a rape apologist....justifying an adult and a minor sexual intercourse ..

U won't say the same if it were your own son involved ... At the end of the day u are same with men who say dirty stuff when the tables turn and a they say a 17 year old girl is old enough

We4all:
The wife reported him for rape and all he got was a sack. No arrest, no charges brought against him, no prison term, and no deportation. It seems the UK government have started embracing rapists with open arms.

work places don't wait till investigation is concluded before sacking the accused....even footballers get suspended immediately....

Chetas81:
HHHHHMMMMM BUT WHY?

Corrupt leaders.....

Chetas81:
neocolonial era is here,but the black Africans refuse to see the sign, Russian and emirates in the east Africa ) the united states and the united kingdom are here in the west,controlling our affairs🥱

They gave u independence but u never stood on your own.....
They help u play salary, give u malaria, HIV tuberculosis drugs, they help u with water, dash u money every 3 months in foreign aid..
Cancel some of your debt .....
Y'all literally can't survive without the west...

They should officially come back and colonize Nigeria because there's nothing sovereign about y'all Nigeria

valentineuwakwe:
So it now morning for the UK to talk n intervene in this experiment called Nigeria...

You cause this issue since you decide to keep quite this long.....not only 16 but the whole federation. I wish Nigerian leaders will rise above board and tell UK to stay clear off Nigeria!

Try dey read...e get why

akinszz:
They are now giving warnings after creating problems upon problems.

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Y'all like blaming colonial masters that have left your since .....
Na help una vote u a corrupt leaders..
Na them help una dey support shariah...
Na dem help una patch patch tinubu bad leadership??

So they should not earn their citizens to avoid traveling to Nigeria?? Well done

grandstar:
I doubt a 19 year old would be that smart, especially since her own mother was not in support of the relationship but could do nothing about it.

Lol.....her own mother was not in support??

if u think her greedy mum was not in support then u must believe I'm the president of France ...

A 16 years old married for greed but u think she's not capable of extra greed

Kwinesther:
Because he has never praised her publicly this much until Regina left him. See mumu epistles. He's obviously doing that to make Regina feel pained. If he loves Laila that much and Laila truly possess all those listed character, why marrying Regina then? If Laila is this peaceful, what is he looking for in Regina? He's truly an old f00l.

It's just human nature ...when the desired is no longer available....the available suddenly becomes the desired...

When I dump my babe for year 2, the werey wey I dey think say na my soul mate na cultist girlfriend ....when the Aiye guy and him associate threaten me finish for back of student union building...I go house dey vex come remember how I love my ex....... If u see the text whey I compose ehn....

grandstar:
He is going public with this to make Regina jealous!

The thing go pain Regina wella!

She was treating him as an old man, one that is spent.

The thing nor fit pain Regina...because na Regina plan be that from the start ...use the man for a while, chop the man money , gather property and clean mouth....
Them nor envisage say the weréy sperm go still active dey give the girl belle on a per second billing......

Felabrity:
If you love her, you no go marry Regina

Sharrrap

That's not how greedy and lack of discipline works though....

Switruth:
Since when UK start to dey care? Wayo people. The US will teach you all lesson.

The article said UK dey warn their own citizens about traveling to Nigeria, u dey think say UK care about Nigeria ..... Lol ...UK no send una before...if una like make una let Islamic bandits kill all of una finish.....

Lol...if them explain Nigeria to you and u understand.......na lie them tell you

Have u seen videos on YouTube how those luggage management staff handle passenger's luggage ?

If ur TV reach reach Lagos in one piece, na miracle wey deserve rolling on the floor to shout hallelujah....

Wananonly:
Let's just pretend he hasn't heard of the people dying every minute in his own country and say kudos to him bro

Una nor dey carry last for dragging....

Funniest thing is, Americans will drag him with the same thing..... U leave u country cross thousand of miles of ocean go pay for burial...

The guy is not serious at all..

Incognito403:
The known terrorist sympathisers are in Abia and Anambra supporting the now disgraced ipad president, Nnamdi Kanu.

So all these pple saying Bokoharam and jihadist bandits should not be arrested are not terrorist sympathizers??

All these pple in Senate saying attacking Bokoharam is attacking the entire not are not terrorist sympathizers....

Okay oooo .....

I guess that's why Nigeria is suffering since we use double standard to define terrorist

Incognito403:
I don't blame this American politicians for thinking their country's visa means something.

Even if their visa doesn't mean anything....so they shouldn't ban terrorist sympathizers from entering their own country??

It's this shariah that making some pple feel more entitled to the country than othere....it has always been their strategy of take over the govt and harass non-muslims....

And I believe it's the real reason the United states entered the issue and not really about fighting Bokoharam or ISWap or bandits

These pple are just a very different breed... They are naturally barbaric even the so called learned ones among them.....

They need to be in their own separate country