₦airaland Forum

Pharaoh4rin:
One thing i have struggled to understand is, these people from one religion....is it wrong for them to remain and live like normal human beings? Do they have to want to kill all the time? Even in Nigeria, the way they talk, behave towards normal people is as if they should devour you.
Well,i thank god for my kind of person.

U don't need to struggle to understand...all that peaceful slogan na deception ....if you go to where they are dominant , they are raised to hate other faith, especially Jews and christians..

I met a lady who's originally from Iran...she migrated out of the place ....she said n their school from childhood, they recite this pledge everyday " she is a slave of their god, the guy that married a 6 year old is her prophet , her greatest aim in life is to see Jews and other enemies of their God eliminated and die for the cause of of their religion.

The shocking thing is I heard the same thing from this Somalian activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali...if u read that womans's biography or watch her on YouTube...you will wonder how anyone practices that religion

DesChyko:
Just saying; ignoring the process they already have set up, then introducing a new process that actually depends on the old processes to work.. That's premium fooling 🤷🏾‍♂️

Baba that's their usual way in Nigeria ....with every new govt, a new sheriff comes to town and start making new laws to form busy... They have no listed goals to achieve, no established risk management, no enforcement protocol, no compliance follow up to curb those that want to beat the system, and no established way to assess impact of new policy........it's just cloud without rain...

Arizonaguy:
The policy is sound.
There are other options, such students may write the general exams for Waec, neco or nabteb.
It's very reasonable that a students that failed his core subjects resit not only his exam but his classes once again.
That's how we build character in a nation.

Just curious though about this your view ...is this just for secondary school or if a chemical engineer fails polymer chemistry in 400 level one of his core subjects he should go back to 100 level or 200 level and start over all the courses he has passed before??..... ..

Or u are just desperately trying to justify policy that someone came up with just to appear active in his office...

honesttalk21:
You see why my starting sentence is. If you don't understand or want to pretend you don't understand seek clarity. What is the translation in this case and what is the original text if not in the Arabic language. Study the verse referred to an ascertain the exactness of the translation for the original.

Should I agree with you on playing with words we will both be wrong.

Let's go back to 8:39....and get what it said and what you said ??

...U should fight until u eliminate other religions and polytheism and everyone worships Allah?? Yes or No??

honesttalk21:
It's getting absolutely obvious that logical discussion cannot be done here. Please show where or 'how insisting on translation that isn't in the original text' equals that verse is not in the original text!

Then the one whos brief you take goes on to say I state one verse is contradicted by another or others. Really?

Sir...u shot urself in the leg but now want to start playing with words.......are translation not words...are verses not words ......so what's exactly is this beating about the bush sir??

I ask again ...shebi u Muslim claims u dont have edited, standardized, or translated Quran?? Which one is now ur claim of something not being in the original ....??

I ask you again....show us the original that before Caliph Uthman edited and standardized with his companions

honesttalk21:
And your attachment has text that reads one verse is contradicted by others? Please show me.

Please read your own text....

Lol....Someone showed you Quran 8:39...and u claimed that verse is not in the original text....which prompted the person to ask you.. are u saying you now have contradictions in your religious text??

What's hard Here that you don't understand.?

If the original text is different from the codex Caliph Uthman gave u pple, show us....its thats simple....but u are beating about the bush playing with words ...we are not children here sir..

honesttalk21:
Is it so difficult to answer a question pertaining to a discussion you jumped into before having your concerns addressed? Is this questionable morals or illogical arrogance? Did I say one verse was contradicted by others?

In your rage or rush no screen shot is attached.

Rage? It's funny how u Muslims claim rage, hate, yet you are the ones going around murdering pple and trying to dominate others.. if they speak out u will call label all manner of names....

honesttalk21:
First show in context of my discussion with Rightchannel my saying what he claims.

This is just another deceptive denial, leaving all I said to deflect....
but no worries I will indulge you.......the screen shot below shows the conversation btw the two of you as u tried to deceptively hide the violent 8:39 verse under the excuse of translations just as u have been hiding under polemics and your usual "it's not a universal call" ......

Which was why the RightChanneI asked you: "are u saying there are contradictions in your religious text ? since u muslims have always claimed ur text was never edited and standardized...

.....U further claim that the action of your prophet affirm those violent practices were not a universal call....so I ask....how sir?? How did his action affirmed it.....your prophet literally killed millions of pple justifying it with various reasons from lesser jihad, to claims they attacked him first, to claims they are his enemies or enemies of allah, and other excuses

See ....... the truth is .....thus is how religion works.....pple follow the actions and teachings of the central person/prophet/messengers of the faith they follow.....many things Christians do today are the very actions of jesus

So it is pure deception for you to keep twisting that the violent actions of your Muslims brothers all over the world is not becos of your prophet's past actions and Quran's violent text...

I mean..... 8:39 literally said u should fight until Islam dominates....if u have any original text that different from the codex caliph uthman gave u pple ...please show here us......

In one of ur prophet's past violent actions he beheaded more than a 100 Jewish sect known as Banu Qurayza, because he accused them of siding with enemies of allah...yet when ur Muslim brothers kill non-Muslims or whoever they tag as enemies of Islam and the prophet today.... u come here and hide under polemics and non-universal call.....sir you are very deceptive and it's a common practice among your Muslim to hide and justify evil..











The guy clearly showed you Quran 8:39 which clearly states you should fight until Islam dominates ...and it's one of the verse that's promotes violence perpetrated by your pple around the world today .

DesChyko:
Correct me if I am wrong but do schools not submit the SS2 register to Ministry and do WAEC candidates not having their SS1 to SS2 scores entered for them before they are eligible to sit for WAEC?

Hahahahahahhaha hahahaha!!

You must be a comedian if you think Nigerian Ministry of education is that organized and has the integrity to actually receive records of millions of ss1 and ss2 student across nigeria and check it for compliance against name of student registered for WASSCE....
As in .....do u even understand why Nigeria is the way it is?? Why we have bad roads, why there are no roofs or chairs in many schools, why 70% of our budget is inside some pple's pocket ??

Amarachieze:
But our president graduated before the school he attended was established. .

Una too like vawulence for nairaland

honesttalk21:
No I didn't say that.

I see you are boxed into being context-blind and or polemic-driven reader.

Lol...U are just deceptively hiding under polemics to dodge the fact that your religious text promotes violence against other people that are not Muslims, aiming at domination...

Everytime u cannot deny these evil practices, you will play the "it's not a universal call" card, yet your Muslims brothers go about killing people in the name of lesser jihad, migrating in mass to developed non-muslims nation to overthrow their culture and accommodating laws that allowed you to practice your islam when you entered their country....

Please tell me something sir....can any immigrant enter Saudi, Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan and start demanding for official parallel religious laws and court like shariah when there are already existing laws and courts....?? U can't even have freedom of religion or preach openly in a Muslim country without the risk of being killed.. ....I mean, how do u pple think it's okay to enter peoples countries and try to overturn their laws??

HacheNoire:
Why I said majority and not all.

Do you know private schools also have corrupt influences to make their students pass WAEC? That’s how they market the schools.

A lot goes on in the educational sector if you take time to investigate. I mean a lot!

If WES should do a full time audit of all result sent to them, you will be shocked by the outcome.

The system is rigged! Only the poor cannot thrive in the system.

At the end of the day all these laws will not work with private schools.......private schools can still admit any student into any class and create records if needed to prove the student has been with them since...

The problem with federal and state govt is that they have good initiatives on ground they don't leverage on.....
They already have what is called learners ID generated by the ministry of education from primary 1......if they can enforce the use of this ID like BVN ....
It can easily be used to monitor students digital footprint even.....it will even curb parents that take their students to another school to jump class even when they fail

But alas......some school don't even have roof or chairs to sit....... But someone just wakes up to makes laws to appear active

Soneh:
Go and get a POS or an agent account from any of these POS companies and use it for receiving payments. Let's see how they would calculate the tax from a pos account. For monies you don't have plans of using, just save it as usdt on any crypto wallet of your choice.

POS agent account are already expected to be registered with CAC by 2026 because federal govt wants to start debiting them flat fee .......

djseanjohn77:
Personnel and Financial Power
Nigeria maintains overwhelming dominance in manpower and funding. It commands a force of approximately 230,000 active personnel, backed by 50,000 paramilitary members, totaling over 280,000 personnel. Burkina Faso, in stark contrast, has only about 16,500 active personnel and 4,500 paramilitary members, making Nigeria’s force nearly 14 times larger. Financially, Nigeria’s defense budget is approximately $3.16 billion USD, which is roughly 38 times larger than Burkina Faso’s budget of $81.28 million USD.

Burkinafaso's military budget is technically more than Nigeria's budget because out of that fake 3.16 bullion you quoted ....3.1 billion usd has embezzled .....

Mankind2024:
Why Captain Ibrahim Traoré Is Playing with Fire by Detaining Nigerian Soldiers
Many people underestimate the capabilities of the Nigerian military and what it could mean for the government of Burkina Faso under Captain Ibrahim Traoré.

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U are just a praise singer of mediocrity and overestimating the might of Nigerian military...

U are dealing with a ruthless coup plotter who doesn't mind insulting another nation after rubbishing the leadership of his own....y'all can't do jack

Iseddy:
first of all the guy lack sense, secondly it's likely that they both had the same order which indicates the double of each item. Spending on woman doesn't guarantee she'll automatically be interested in you.

Of course he knows there is no guarantee she'll be interested .........but still...it's also common sense U don't go to a date and eat like your life depends on it ..that's what make pple feel used...

As a man if a woman's shows me green light and I'm not interested in dating dating her why will I go extra mile and be chopping what I know she would consider as a loss or exploitation and eventually tell her I'm not interested in her after I had my way...

We just like using pple then hide under ignorance and "did I force you" .....that's how some pple have lost their life .because u don't know if the person you are dealing with is not normal

ambale:
To all those supporting the government, has it ever been heard of that government taxes people's bank account??

They couldn't even work on their systems but na taxation straight, does the government have the accurate of the working class in Nigeria sef?

Radarada and balablu

Don't u pay stamps duty which is a form of tax...?? If there will be any deductions based on inflow or wateva yardstick they want to use.

it is very easy....CBN will just use banks to enforce it....just as 50naira is auto debited for every 10k and above inflow...

Anither563:
This is treason. If you know the security risk this law will prevent, you won't be thinking of sabotaging it.

Which Security risk will it prevent??
What did Bvn and NIN do for us ? Terrorist and scammers are having a good day each day .as many even receive funds in account with NIN and BVN.....as great as the BVN and NIN initiative was the govt refused to take full advantage of it because of heavy corruption.....

EFCC that has full access to accounts to follow the irregular monies using BVN & NIN but they are only used to harass opposition and yahoo boys who will pay them bribe

Now u pple have come again.. mentioning benefits that we will never see because of the same corruption........

Let us shaa continue with this corruption and keep running the country with you pple's sycophancy

As in....she sign covenant with food ...??
How u go swallow so much food at one sitting?? Some go even ask for take-away..

Very shameless

Diamond098454:
my dear that would have been a total family scandal

yeye dey smell...

U go person house admit you dress one kind because u assumed the lady of the house will come first.........so won't the man of house eventually come to see u in the dress??... Why not dress irrespective of who's coming first....

U women always know what you are doing..but come around be forming victim

kaludestiny10:
The man looks older than the age he declared even with all the money at his disposal. Money is highly essential in life but it doesn't give peace of mind.

Nobody falsify age like civil servants and politicians........

Lukuluku69:
Lol

Are you suffering from epileptic fits that makes you spits uncontrollably ni?

You claimed that all the countries are shutting their borders against the Muslims? Lol

Go to the United States of America, the sounds of the Muslim call to prayers can now be heard in American cities loudly!

Go to Mexico, the same sounds await you in a Land Muslims were a fairy-tale and from distant lands.

In Germany, England, France many Islamic Banks are sprouting and taking roots. Who do you think they want to cater for? Jews and Christians?

There Churches are being sold and guess who are buying them? Muslims!

Yet you, a person of no consequence want us to believe that Europe and America are shutting their borders to Muslims?

Delusional delulu is worrying you.

When you are done from your epileptic spitting fits, please reference where virgins were promised to anyone who killed for Allah.

😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂

U asked for verse...I gave u.....u now got triggered and started deflecting......

U ddnt know I will know the verse....abi u don't want to go to heaven to have sex again??


U kill people here in earth with lesser jihad

..u want to go to heaven to have sex....

.well done sir

Lukuluku69:
1. Nations are already closing their borders against we Muslims? I suggest you leave the rock you live underneath and come out to see the spread of Islam and Muslims. Go to the America (North and South) places where Islam and Muslims were fairytale now have a thriving Muslims communities. Go to Australia, New Zealand, etc. Do your findings and come back to come rant as usual. There are Islamic banks all over Europe, lol. Who do you think they want to cater for? Dey dia male pant dey wear una.
2. Yeah, you hate Islam and Muslims. Especially bigots and bot too bright people devoid of critical thinking. They hate on what they have no inkling to. Blind hatred, especially you Christians, because we held on to our faith despite the onslaught. You don't threaten, nor do we feel threatened by you.
3. Of course there are extremists amongst us just as we have extremists amongst every belief system all over the world. So? We condemned them but you lots are always blind to those condemnation. You choose what you want to listen to to further your agenda. Lol
4. Whether you like it or not or it sends you to the great beyond or it gives you HBP, we will continue to bow our heads both at home and openly for you to see. Nothing you can do about that.
5. On Deborah death, those that killed her should erred and should be made to face the full wrath of the Nigerian State.
6. Any other thing? 😄😄😄

U can lie from now till tomorrow ...but u know deep down that it's true and u are expecting the virgins.......because thats what Surah 37:45 promises you Muslims.....

You even believe u have have strength to sleep with them..

.. Spits!!

BRATISLAVA:
This is an unusually dumb take, even for you.

It's humor nowadays, but it's been your lifeblood for years. Try another lie.

Wow!....for years.?? .....i must have struck a nerve cos I dont even know you.......if I've offended you in the past abeg no vex oooo

.....It has always been cruise/humor...look around,...this is the cyberspace....it isn't real life........you are the ine taking things here too serious...... ...It's not that deep

Moveittothem:
I was speaking from the perspective of a typical Muslim, that doesn't make me a Muslim.
We should learn to respect people's religion ooh.
Allahu Akbar

No one cares what you worship in the corner of your room.....religion is supposed to be a personal issue in the first place....

...but .tagging any small thing as blasphemy to launch out violence becomes everyone's problem...
Forcing shariah as a national law on everyone becomes everyone's problem

Lukuluku69:
Like I said, you are not a person of faith, so I don't expect you to see the fruits of faith.

As for the extremists and extremism, Islam views are well documented as well as that of Muslims. If you don't see it, it only means you have been listening to those whose words you valued.

So, Islam promised people virgins in heaven for killing? Really? Can you help me with the relevant verses from the Quran?

On "justification " for violence accusations, you lots are just as pathetic as pathetic can be. Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, etc. have all waged wars and have their issues before but your hatred for Islam and Muslims have made you all blind to them.

And it is all good. The more the hate, the more Islam and Muslims continue to grow.

Keep at it.

U have nothing sir.....the violence u refused to address among your self will end you....nations are already closing their borders to you Muslims, parliament are making laws against your barbaric shariah laws....
U think pple hate you?? That's the problem with you Muslims...u are not sincere to your selves....u cant even admit there are extremist among you fuels by the nature of your Islamic doctrine..
...no one care what you bow your head to at the comforts of your room..... We just want u to stop beaheding pple like Deborah, beaheding teacher doing their jobs in schools , everyday pple that are supposed to be your neighbors, caught in the middle of your lack of tolerance and inflated sense of religious ego

Lukuluku69:
Benefits?

I can list a hundred but you are not a person of Faith, so like water off the back of a duck, it will dribble off.

Only people of Faith knows what Islam brought.

Only people of Faith.

I don't need to be a Muslims to see facts...u have nothing to present as benefits and that's why u keep beating about the bush.......

Even Worse ....u pple can't even admit the violence and extremism that comes with the practice of religion and address it among your Muslim community.....instead u justify it and fuel promote more radicals who will attach bombs to their underwear and behead pple on the streets of Europe for being offended of what someone said...

I mean what kinda religion promise pple virgins in heaven for killing in the name of their God........

themanderon:
Thank goodness some of them are finally speaking out. I was amazed when one of those governors said religious propagation is his topmost priority above security, education, health and everything else.
The north needs a new generation of right thinking gallant young men to reshape its future, if not there will be no future.

Majority of them have been limited, raised to detest education, to prefer Islamic studies and shariah over development of their state and. Country ..........so these leaders will keep winning election just by saying their priority is propagation of Islam and not education, healthcare or economic development....

Lukuluku69:
As if death hasn't stalked the world before the coming of the Arabian Prophet?

Was Islam also responsible for what happened to the Apache, Commanche, Cheneye in the New World when your Europeans Christians arrived?

Rinse and repeat in Australia, South America and bring it home to the South of Africa, go and read what Christian Germany did in Namibia, also take time out to read about King Leopold doings in the Congo.

Then bring it home to the wars they called the World Wars. These were all because of Islam and Muslims right?

I don't need to waste any further time of mine because you have been programmed not to see thru it.

Shame on you sir....u can't even mention the benefits u claim your religions brings...all u did is justify violence produced by ur religion with past violence.....is violence a competition to be engaged in
.....this is 2025....no one need pple beheading and burning pple on the street becos they are offending by what someone said....Are u the only religion in the world?? Ome of your brother up there is already screaming blasphemy over discussion of state and tax payers money involvement in pilgrimage...

I ask again...what is the so called benefit... ?? U really have nothing say....only claims and justification for violence

Moveittothem:
Islam is more important than worldly things like State affairs.

That why Muslims want sharia, as to address situations like this more islamically.

It's Blasphemous to think a pilgrimage to mecca isn't more important than worldly state development.

See them ...everything is blasphemy, and shariah.....thatsvwhy u are always quick to be offended lashing out with violence.....u must tag everything blasphemy just because pple have different opinion from you ppl.??

How does going to mecca develop your country.... U pple just talk as if religion has impaired your faculties ...

Lukuluku69:
You are so blind that you can't see it even if a Doctoral Thesis is written about the benefits of Islam and being Muslims. You wont see it still.

U calling someone blind but fail to look around you....
Be truthful to yourself sir ...if islam is not in the world today..what benefit will the world miss.?

Ur contribution to the world is deaths since ur prophet started it with his lesser jihad, which u keep blaming the extreme one among you for.......but the truth is ur Islam is naturally extreme in its practice...

Ur religion and shariah is by force through lesser jihad...
It's the same wahala if someone doesn't want to do islam again....
Na you pple bomb world trade center, na una dey put bomb for under wear enter plane....na una be Boko haram, na una be ISIS, Alqaeda, ISWAP, ... So which benefit are u talking about sir ??