₦airaland Forum

fuke: Why would you say that?

This man fought the civil war with veterans like Brg. Adekunle,
Gen Bajowa, Gen. Theo Danjuma, Gen Obasanjo, late Gen Murtala Muhammed and others

They kept this country together for you guys to have the chance to be
called Nigerians. Why would anybody talk to and about them like this?

God help Nigeria, if these are the stuff our future leaders are made of.

destinedtee: Thanks.

italo: You say that "science has already declared 'rising from DEATH' false."

Then you say that "DEATH is a PERMANENT (lasting for eternity or till the end of time) cessation of all biological functions.

How could science have declared it false when science has to wait till the end of time to be sure of "death."



..."According to that definition." But not everybody thinks that death is always a permanent cessation of all biological functions.



Cloning of cells is possible today even though it was unimaginable yesterday. Now do you know what other unimaginable thing today will be possible tomorrow? Possibly, the mummies could actually be brought back to life. Not just cloning their cells.



There is no proof that it has been the SOLE definition from time immemorial. In the Bible, Martha and many others didn't see death as you see it. She believed her brother was dead and she believed he could live again.



...And doctor Tobin had both! - authority and documented evidence.

A report from Maiduguri, Borno State, says a retired general and one of the heroes of Nigeria’s Civil War, General Mohammed Mamman Shuwa, has been killed. General Shuwa was shot dead this afternoon in his house at Mamman Shuwa Street, Gwange area of Maiduguri. The group of gun men did not take anything from the house.The killing came less than 24 hours after the Boko Haram announced a ceasefire, the group has said that it will stop all forms of attacks if all its members in custody of security agencies are released unconditionally. The group also named the CPC leader, General Muhammadu Buhari to head a six man team that will negotiate on its behalf at meetings which should take place in Saudi Arabia.

destinedtee: @OP: Thanks for that wonderful piece.God bless you real good.Please you don't need to bother yourself about those who oppose you.Don't get into argument with them.Stay Blessed.

italo: From that definition of death, we can not know for sure if anybody is dead or not. Since we have to be present at the end of time before we can ascertain whether the "cessation of biological functions" was actually 'permanent' or not.

italo: If you declare someone dead today, how are you to know that he cannot be revived after a year using whatever means. E.g I'm sure you'd say the mummies of Egypt are dead, or are they not? What happens if somehow, by scientific or spiritual means, they are revived tomorrow, you will then tell me that they weren't dead in the first place.

That brings me to this: hardly anything is ever certain in science, it is always seeking to understand. Even that definition of death can change tomorrow. Faith know that God has power over life and death. Science will only continue to try to understand. Faith is beyond the scope of science. Science doesn't even have the tools to test faith.

italo: Doctor Tobin said Fabrice died. The other doctors didn't refute that claim. You are the only one in the whole world that I've heard that said Dr Tobin was carried away.

Anyway, I'll take the doctor's word over yours.

italo: *perplexed* What has worshipping Muamba got to to with anything?

Okay let's handle your specifics one by one.

When did Science say "rising from the dead" is false?

And did doctors (scientists) say Fabrice Muamba was "dead" or not?

italo: Science can never say categorically that certains things are true or false. Scientists keep learning and understanding new things everyday. So what was "false" yesterday can be "true" tomorrow and vice-versa.

And most of these instances are well beyond the scope of science so they cannot be declared wrong, only unfathomable.

I thought Fabrice Muamba rose from the dead. It was doctors that said, not me.

bamto: We're discussing a public issue here on a public forum. No one has said its your property. Btw, if you cannot take a stand on such issues now, if you get into public office, what difference would you possibly make?

bamto: Are you for real? Jobs my foot. Can you allow your daughter, sister or wife do such?

bamto: Good riddance to bad rubbish! Its debasing and dehumanising. I'm not sure if those girls had better opportunities, they'd have opted for such show of shame. Where are the so-called feminists who ought to be at the forefront of the clampdown? Busy wrestling authority from the men.

COOLDUN: Chukwu gozie gi nwanne m , ma gozikwaa umu Igbo nile na ndi agbata obi anyi nile huru anyi bu ndi Igbo na anya, okwu gi kwu oto ka osisi Orji. Umu nwayi igba uto ete egwu abughi ejiri mara Ndi Igbo, obu ihe ruru aru nihu Chineke anyi, na anyi bu mmadu, ejim ohere a na ekele Onye nduu ndi Imo bu Owelle Rochas Anayo Okorocha, maka iwu a, na asikwa ka Chineke nna anyi gozie ya na ezi na ulo ya. Iseeeee !!.

lagcity: Owelle Rochas Bin Taliban Okorocha. Great job! We are waiting for you to ban Mercedes Benz because rich men use it to pick up babes on the street. This will drastically reduce immorality.

ehie: Nairaland and its archaic terms"unclad"will heavens fall if the word n.a.ked is written manliness,being intimate...etc?
or will Nigeria become more righteous.i really want to know what is behind the rationale

ogoamaka99: @advocate666,
Are you devil's advocate?

seriallink: Hope I'm not chatting with lucifer himself get behind me Satan!

seriallink: I knew you were gonna say that! *SMH for you*

Goodluck with your life of sin.... Seems you are beyond redemption! Carry waka

seriallink: 666 Advocate, Whence comest thou

seriallink: Those are not sin....Thou shall not kill, isn't applicable to the things you listed above! You 're misinterpreting the scripture....oh okay, you are an anti-christ btw

seriallink: Maybe he has slept a married woman before....that's adultery too

k2039: Are you married,because the last time I checked adultery is for married men and women

italo: There is nothing in my religion that teaches against fossils or anything that's true in science.

Todaynatoday: Your assertions are a mockery to the omnipresence of God.