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Palestines do not need aid to survive. They are not asking for aid to survive.

The powerful countries supported Israel to create the situation that we have today.

Before the creation of Israel in 1948, did the Palestine depend on aid to survive? If no (which is basically the fact), why do they depend on aid today?

Until this question is answered one may never look at this issue the way it should be looked at, unfortunately people take decisions based on religion and this alone blinds many from seeing things the way they really are.

Even as at today, most if not all the money that is being seized by the Israeli government have nothing to do with aid to Palestine but taxes that belong to Palestine but due to the present occupation and security arrangement the people of Palestine cannot access such funds.

Israel as a country have broken more UN resolutions than Iraq but again each time the issue is brought up the US will always veto it because Israel remains an ally that must be protected at all cost, real shame to the UN.

Some 4 or 5 years ago, US and Israel stormed out of a gathering in South Africa when Israel was accused of hate and human rights violations.

There can never be peace unless there is justice and fairplay.

@4 Play,

I am amazed at the kind of statements you manufacture from thin air and present as facts.

The UN never mandated any invasion of Iraq.

The US made it clear that it was ready to invade Iraq and that it will not guarantee the safety of the IAEA inspectors if they didn't leave Iraq immediately.

Even when France, China and Russia (3 out of the 5 permanent members of the security council) made their intentions known that they will veto the move at the security council the US decided against that as it was going to be a major blow.

IAEA made it crystal clear that there was no evidence that Iraq had the capability or was even developing any WMDs and even the US collaborated this after waging an illegal war against Iraq. Even the UN Sec Gen stated this on CNN that the US led invasion was illegal.

I feel like throwing up when I read people write absolute lies and attempt to spread same.

On no fly zones, it is ridiculous that after explaining to you when the no fly zones were imposed you turn around and talk about my not knowing the history.

A little information for you to assimilate, Iraqi troops killed a lot of Shias in the Southern Iraq when they were retreating from the coalition onslaught and they killed those Iraqis that supported the coalition and that is normal in any war situation as even your country men can be killed for aiding and supporting an enemy in a war situation. I believe you are not aware of the reasons for the killings hence your constant reference to them.

There are a lot of well documented events where Saddam ordered the killing of innocent people and this one certainly belongs to another class.

It is either you do not understand what you read or you are confused.

You are here still asking me to visit a particular website and proceed to page 50 and now 51 to see a particular poll that stated that the Iraqis favoured the invasion even when countless surveys and polls conducted across so many frontiers and media point to the fact that majority oppose the invasion in Iraq but for the early stages of the war.

Do yourself a favour, take time to understand anything before putting them down as some of your statements actually make the discussion look childish with the level of wrong statements and outright lies.

4 Play:
@Afam
Type into Google "opinion polls of Iraqis in 2006" then Click on www.iraqanalysis.org .Under opinion on Iraq click on Brookings Iraq Index then go to page 50 of the index

The page shows.QUESTIONS TO IRAQIS:THINKING OF ANY HARDSHIPS YOU MIGHT HAVE SUFFERED SINCE THE US-BRITAIN INVASION,DO YOU PERSONALLY THINK THAT OUSTING SADDAM WAS WORTH IT OR NOT

If the site that you are referencing is http://www.iraqanalysis.org/info/55 then there is no need to look for page 50 of a particular site as the site contains more than enough information to show that many do not agree with your position.

Do have a great day.

4 Play:
Your response to the point I made about how people were largely silent when Saddam was massacring the Shias is erroneous.When this was happening the US and BRITAIN helped sponsor the no-fly zones in parts of the South and North of Iraq to stop it .THAT was better than most people who did nothing but only suddenly discovered an interest in Iraqi suffering when it was time to use it to criticise the US

4Play,

I will not engage in an endless debate over well documented events.

The issue of no fly zone came after the 1st gulf war, after the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait and the subsequent coalition of the willing that had the support of a lot of nations.

You may need to check your information and what you are referencing before talking about erronous information.

The problem with Kurds in the North and Shiites in the South as regards Sunnis started long since or even before Saddam became head of state.

The US never condemned any of the major atrocities commited by Saddam for the reasons earlier stated.

It might even interest you to know that a serving member of the Iraq government today stated that he was able to get to Washington to draw the attention of the crimes being commited by Saddam to those at the White house then and he was politely told that the US was not willing to jeopardise the good relationship they enjoyed with Saddam.

My last word on the issue of Saddam's crimes and the criminal silence that greeted them by the US when the going was good.

One important point you must know is that you will not make money if money making is your main aim of delving into web design business.

You must have the passion to do the job, it is a lonely profession in a way especially if you write programs.

If you excel in helping your clients succeed, money will chase you, if however, you are only interested in making money from your clients, it won't be long before you start looking for another business to do.

4 Play:
@Afam
Can u plz look at the Brooking instituition's Iraq index published in Sept 2006 .I tried to attach it here on the post but it is up to 500KB and I could not hyperlink it despite trying.Check on www.iraqanalysis.org and then click on the opinion polls and then the Brookings instituition's report and read for yourself. www.brookings.edu/fp/saban/iraq/index

77 percent of Iraqis thought the invasion was worth it despite the troubles they have been through.You say that Shia people are enemies of Saddam,funny enough most Iraqis are Shias.But Saddam was also more hated by the Kurds who form 20 percent of the country.I f Shias who form 60 percent of the population and Kurds 20 percent ,together 80 percent,are enemies of Sadddam,I wonder on what basis u claim that Iraqis prefer Sadddam .That defys logic

4 Play,

I initially didn't bother visiting the websites you referenced because results of surveys and polls are freely announced on Western media like CNN, BBC etc. I never base my comments on what someone posts online as many online sources may be too subjective, I prefer information that is readily available to the vast majority of people and in this case most of the journalists are actually embedded in the coalition forces structure so information they provide should ordinarily support the US but when it goes as far as telling the whole world that a greater majority of Iraqis are against the invasion mainly due to the carnage today, I respect for being objective.

Now, I checked the links and the information on the home page isn't encouraging especially as regards the point you are trying to make. I can't find the part on Polls let alone the report you claimed that stated 77% of Iraqis favoured the invasion as at September.

Please, direct me to the site or the poll proper as I would like to see the report myself.

I actually decided to post this reply because I have noticed that you are now using an unconfirmed premise to base your discussion with statements like[b] I f most Iraqis who have lived in Iraq and continue to live there think it is worth toppling Saddam, so be it[/b]. The statement is in itself very wrong till date.

As regards my asking you to go to CNN and ask them, it may sound crazy but that is your best bet because I do not record CNN news on my machine for me to reply them. When in doubt I do contact CNN to clarify certain things and they do, it's no big deal.

Interesting point you raised about what people said or did when Saddam killed a lot of Shiites. The glaring issue on this is that the US never raised any eyebrows because while these things were going on including the gassing of the Kurds in northern Iraq, the US saw in Saddam a good ally who was waging a war against the enemy of the US, Iran.

It is such double standards and hypocrisy of the US that is pissing a lot of people off.

Again that explains why a lot of leaders in the middle east are not sympathetic to Saddam's fate because Saddam was the only leader in the heart of the middle east that fought against having an islamic state, he prefered secularism and that led to a christain being his second in command even when the population of christains in iraq is less than 4%.

@Mariory,

Go ahead with you diversionary tactics let those that choose to discuss the real issues continue.

@Kaecy5,

Happy new year.

I agree that the Palestinians broke the cease fire just as I condemn the killing of innocent ones even by the Palestinians inspite of the injustices.

My point is that we have wasted enough innocent lives in the course of trying to defend and it is not doing anyone any good.

@Mariory,

Not ready to go in an endless debate over very clear issues.

Maybe those of you that are politically incorrect and even morally wrong can tell the Israeli PM not to do a prisoner exchange and wage a full scale war.

Just as Bush is being humbled by the reality on ground, Olmert may be seeking a workable solution as he even stated that Israel would not retaliate even when the Palestinians breached the cease fire.

The bottomline is that justice, fairplay and peace will be close at hand when all the parties involved decide to seek genuine peace.

@Mariory,

And what makes you think non-democratic societies are moral? Don't be so naive.

I never stated that non democratic societies are moral. What are you getting at, manufacturing statements so you can go personal? Won't work now and won't work ever.

Meanwhile, being naive may be better than being stupid.

The US is gradually coming back to what it used to be like before the present regime decided to embark on a journey that was already doomed to fail.

The news is welcome and goes a long way to show that not all Americans are deceived by the Bush Administration and the fear factor he has been using to instill fear and hatred in the people of America.

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LOS ANGELES - A federal judge struck down President Bush's authority to designate groups as terrorists, saying his post-Sept. 11 executive order was unconstitutionally vague, according to a ruling released Tuesday.

The Humanitarian Law Project had challenged Bush's order, which blocked all the assets of groups or individuals he named as "specially designated global terrorists" after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"This law gave the president unfettered authority to create blacklists," said David Cole, a lawyer for the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Constitutional Rights that represented the group. "It was reminiscent of the McCarthy era."

The case centered on two groups, the Liberation Tigers, which seeks a separate homeland for the Tamil people in Sri Lanka, and Partiya Karkeran Kurdistan, a political organization representing the interests of Kurds in Turkey.

U.S. District Judge Audrey Collins enjoined the government from blocking the assets of the two groups. The same judge two years ago invalidated portions of the Patriot Act.

Both groups consider the Nov. 21 ruling a victory; both had been designated by the United States as foreign terrorist organizations.

Cole said the judge's ruling does not invalidate the hundreds of other designated terrorist groups on the list but "calls them into question."

Charles Miller, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, said, "We are currently reviewing the decision and we have made no determination what the government's next step will be."

A White House spokeswoman declined to immediately comment. At the time of his order creating the list, Bush declared that the "grave acts of terrorism" and the "continuing and immediate threat of future attacks" constituted a national emergency.

The judge's 45-page ruling was a reversal of her own tentative findings last July in which she indicated she would uphold wide powers asserted by Bush under an anti-terror financing law. She delayed her ruling then to allow more legal briefs to be filed.

She also struck down the provision in which Bush had authorized the secretary of the treasury to designate anyone who "assists, sponsors or provides services to" or is "otherwise associated with" a designated group.

However, she let stand sections of the order that penalize those who provide "services" to designated terrorist groups. She said such services would include the humanitarian aid and rights training proposed by the plaintiffs.

The Humanitarian Law Project planned to appeal that part of the ruling, Cole said.

"We are pleased the court rejected many of the constitutional arguments raised by the plaintiffs, including their challenge to the government's ban on providing services to terrorist organizations," Miller said Tuesday. "However, we believe the court erred in finding that certain other aspects of the executive order were unconstitutional."

The ruling was still considered a victory, Cole said.

"Even in fighting terrorism the president cannot be given a blank check to blacklist anyone he considers a bad guy or a bad group and you can't imply guilt by association," Cole said.

In 2004, Collins ruled that portions of the Patriot Act were too vague and, even after Congress amended the act in 2005, she ruled the provisions remained too vague to be understood by a person of average intelligence and were therefore unconstitutional.

Hi Texazzpete,

Long time.

No, I do not agree that Bush made a mistake or that the intelligence was flawed, Bush never hid his intention to remove Saddam who he once refered to as someone that tried to kill his dad.

In terms of numbers, I believe Saddam was indeed a saint when compared to the number of deaths Bush is responsible for in iraq.

Putting some of these issues in perspective, it is correct to state that Bush is not the one killing the Iraqis because he is not firing shots there, it is equally correct to state that Saddam did not kill Iraqis because he wasn't firing the shots either just as Abacha did not kill any Nigerian with a pistol (at least to the best of my knowledge).

Why was Saddam tried and executed? For signing or ordering or sanctioning the execution of over 140 people in a failed assasination attempt. We are talking about a military head of state, engaged in a war with Iran being shot at while visiting a village in Dujail in 1982.

Those that were executed were tried in the law courts (even if the process was flawed, I am assuming this as I do not have any info on this) and just like Bush (both Jnr and Snr) have signed more execution orders than any 2 politicians in the recent history of America.

If I may ask, what did the US say when the killing took place? Nothing. Because the US found in Iraq an ally that was at war with its enemy, Iran. See the hypocrisy and double standards?

My dear, the US invaded Iraq and handed Saddam over to his enemies, the Shia people abi na Shittes dem dey call them. What do you expect? Even lawyers from US faulted the proceedings in the Saddam trial and the world knew before hand what the verdict was going to be.

So, Bush, Blair & co are responsible for the killing of many innocent lives in Iraq today.

Bush is responsible for the level of insurgency in Iraq today.

Bush presented Al qaeda with a powerful incentive for young and angry muslims to join al qaeda, Bush did what Osama would not have been able to do.

Iraq never witnessed a single suicide attack in its history before the illegal invasion by the US, today we know Iraq is the hottest recruiting ground for terrorists.

Iraq had a christain under Saddam as the second most powerful man in Iraq even when the population of christains in Iraq was less than 4%, today for the first time in a very very long time churches are being burned and the democracy has produced a government that is increasingly asking for an Islamic state of Iraq which in a way will strenghten Iran since the Shiites are mainly supported by Iran and Saddam always pushed for a secular state as against an Islamic one.


@Easyy,

Take care, like your thought provoking threads.

Democracy certainly is not universally beneficial and a few pointers will attest to this.

Democracy brought about the present leaderships in Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, Russia, Afghanistan etc.

In South America (continent) a lot of leftist presidents are springing up and these people are democractically elected, not thorugh coups.

Even in the US, democracy as is practiced today seems to be giving room for a lot of things that are even immoral.

Gays and lesbians are asking for equal rights even when God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.

If democracy is exported to the middle east today, countries like Saudi Arabia will gladly shut their oil taps against the US and we all know what the consequences of such actions will be.

For the simple fact that people are different, democracy as practiced by one country should not be made universal and the recent push for such universal adoption has recorded unexpected scenarios with a free and fair election bringing a Hamas led government that clearly says they do not want Israel to exist, same with Iran where the present president won by basing his campaign on anti western propaganda as against the former president that was leaning towards the West.

In Nigeria today, democracy has destabilized well organised institutions that have survived thousands of years without problems. The Ibos naturally do not believe in kingship whereas the Hausas believe in kingships where a single person has a near total control over the people under him.

The "red indians" were living a happy life before the invaders came, killed, maimed and established themselves on another man's land. Not sure they were practicing democracy then but I assume they were happy and living in peace, at least Columbus recorded that as one of the things that shocked him when he stepped foot on their land.

It is best for countries to develop the best style of governance that suits them, not trying to import another person's way of life.

Democracy is just a game of numbers and has nothing to do with morality just as 90% of a group may decide to pass into law something that is bad and it becomes law because in democracy majority will always have their way while minority their say.

Over 2 months after the unnecessary bloodshed in both Lebanon and Palestine the Israeli PM has finally agreed to what those of us that are "politically correct" have been saying from the moment the first shot was fired in Lebanon after Hezbollah killed and kidnapped some Israeli soldiers - do a prisoner exchange

Watching the Israeli PM ask the Palestines to return the kidnapped Israeli soldier in exchange for release of prisoners in Israel is welcome even though very late considering the number of deaths that have been recorded since the kidnapping incident.

The Israelis are also negotiating (though not directly) with Hezbollah for the release of kidnapped soldiers.

The killing of innocent ones in any conflict is wrong regardless of the person, group or country carrying out the killing.

We can not have peace without justice and fair play.

Produce a single lie so we can sort it out, generalising issues won't help you as you have already demonstrated that you tell lies without thinking twice and without remorse.

Again, if I see a suspicous object, I will not start abusing muslims or Allah because that suspicous object may be another harmless object and even if it is an explosive device I will not stupidly assume it was developed and kept there by a muslim because anyone with the necessary skills and knowledge can make bombs.

You will do yourself a whole lot of good to get over this religous bigotry and hatred you have for a people even when you have been wrong over and over again in your analysis, maybe it is mere ignorance, I wouldn't know.

See you when you post another lie.

So, do you have the number of the guy or unit that detonated a bomb that had no explosive material in it? Technology don craze be dat.

Infact, it seems I saw a bomb today near my house even though the bomb does not contain any explosive material. Let me contact the bomb disposal unit in Ikeja so that they can check out all these gas dealers since anytime we see them we should think about bombs and muslims according to your warped sense of judgement.

Enjoy your day and learn to discuss issues you have a firm understanding on. One more thing, avoid telling lies unless you started doing so when you were really small, in which case there is practically nothing anyone can do for you but to feel for you.

@Easyy,

It is called denial or diversion at its best.

Why people tend to equate any blame for a wrong action for example Bush and his many wrong policies with dislike for the US is something I find supremely difficult to undertand.

If Saddam is being tried and already sentenced to death for sanctioning the killing of some 142(?) villages after he was shot in an assasination attempt then one wonders why Bush should not be tried for lying, invading and not showing any remorse for the carnage in Iraq today where the number of deaths recorded each day is becoming mere statistics.

There can never be peace unless you have justice and fairplay. The double standards and hypocrisy of many powerful countries stink to high heavens.

@TayoD,

Na wahooo. The speed at which you decided to correct some of the spelling mistakes is really commendable Mr English teacher, that speed can readily compare with Ben Johnson's.

Abeg, I don see people wey sabi brag well well even when mistakes and lies na their companion.

I am sure you have thoroughly embarassed yourself today. That was why I decided to quote your post in full as against copying and pasting it.

Better focus on broken english before you totally ridicule yourself, lie, you dey, mistakes you dey, na only you dey US?

For your information I corrected just one mistake not more than one so you may use the word corrections more appropriately as it is in the plural form.

Spell check? I don't use it so it is all yours, I guess you have demonstrated to us that you need it more than I do.

I have left the one you pointed out earlier on for historical purposes.

So you have never claimed not to make mistakes? Ok, you only enjoy pointing out mistakes by others when you are the baba himself.

TayoD:
Afam,

It should be know no bounds. Is that also a spelling mistake or a glitch in the brain?
I'm glad I am not the one that produced the link to the newspaper that also reported this incident. Perhaps the newspaper was also in on the lies. If I may ask you, under what circumstance would a bomb unit of a police department be called into action? Let me give you some options: 1. when Afam keeps lying 2. when Afam keeps spinning 3. when Afam can't write well 4. when an suspected unexploded device is discovered. Before you ask for the answer from a kindergarten pupil, the answer is clearly number 4. Can you reconcile that with the topic of this thread then.
Liar? Who is the obvious liar here. Who keeps quoting other people wrongly when there is ample evidence to show otherwise? The answer once again is Afam. Hell aint my portion Hater. But for anyone who kill others and sow the seed of terrorism, the smoe of their torment will rise up for ever and ever.

and if you have indeed read your Bible, you will fnd that God will destroy those who destroy the earth. Tell me are your suicide bpmbers earth builders or destroyers? I hope you know the right answer to that. That is your homework for the day.

English teacher, see the highlighted words above and reconcile that with your constant correction as regards spelling.

However, I corrected the know even before you posted your reply and I have decided to reproduce your post in full so that people can see that it makes no sense for someone that does not know to always claim that he knows.

Maybe you will learn a thing or two from the mistakes you have made, not that it matters to me but coming from the english expert himself one begins to wonder.

Hmmmm,

Leave out the spelling mistakes as that isn't the issue now, I read and overlook spelling mistakes I read even from a teacher like you. I am in support of Nigerians developing their own brand of English like the broken english so that communication will be easy and effortless as it should be. Bragging in another man's language is not something to be proud of, seems like inferiority complex to me.

The thing is that your lies know no bounds, even on this very thread where you attempted to sell yet another lie you still have the guts to defend your lies.

A critical analysis of your complete statement on this thread may be worth looking at:
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It hasn't made it to the news yet, but a bomb has just been discovered at the Minneapolis Airport.  It was hidden in a car that was parked where it could make a very high impact: by some gas tanks.  Thankfully, the bomb has been detonated by a bomb squad and another bloodshed to satisfy Allah's appetite has been avoided.

------ A lie. No bomb was discovered. No bomb was even detonated. It was even reported that no explosive material was found.

I hope these bastards are caught and burned alive on a stake.  They shoud burn in fire on there way to eternal hell fire.

------ A hopeless hope, because no one did anything. Funny enough eternal hell fire is a place reserved for shameless liars like you unlesss you have been reading your bible upside down.

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@TayoD,

My people say that he that is down need fear no fall so I can understand your position.

You may do well to discuss issues you understand well maybe to keep what is left of your credibility as regards lies and denials.

Will I bother scrutinizing your highly selected response in the face of posts made by you? No. It will amount to a waste of time.

That a grown up living in America will bolding attempt to separate the present homeland security from what is happening in Iraq today goes to show how myopic and silly some people can be.

@TayoD,

I guess the chicken has finally come home to roost.

For details, see https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-17880.1536.html & https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-17880.1568.html

Enjoy the reproduced post and please bear in mind that pre mid term polls and surveys were on even as at September before you tell me that mid term elections were carried out in November as there is no end in sight as regards what you say these days.

Meanwhile, you should have been humbled by your ridiculous claim about a bomb plot yesterday that warranted your pouring invectives on Allah and muslims.

The problem with people like you is that you erronously assume you understand what's happening around you when in the real sense you don't.

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Democracy at work here, I hope Bush respects the will of the senate as they respresent the Americans.

What you do not understand is that Americans are more in support of Bush when the issue is homeland security.  The only problem he has is Iraq and that is the cause of his falling, now rising polls.   

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@ Afam,

Here's the link you wanted.  http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/15/032930.php   http://www.fox28.com/News/index.php?ID=4418   http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/17498.html

I have not provided you with any contradictions.  A Senator's stand is not necessarily that of his constituency.  I have heard a Senator say that his conscience guides his decision ahead of his constituency.  Bush is rated very highly with regards to defending America from terrorism. That is an indisputable fact. 

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I have seen the links posted. Hovering about 40% still does not amount to very high rating to me sha.

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Bush is rated very highly with regards to defending America from terrorism. That is an indisputable fact.

The killing of the nun is wrong and unfortunate.

I will not want to go into labelling a religion bad or good.

I can comfortably discuss specific actions of people but the religion itself or the symbol/ideology behind a religion? Not me.

We may be going round in circles here because not all moslems are "terrorists" unless you are saying that those moslems that are not "terrorist" are not good moslems.

I hear it is against the law for a man to marry more than one wife in Tunisia yet in some countries it is ok to marry up to 4 wives.

These are issues that are fundamental to people and though we may not agree with them, we are bound to respect them. 

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Bush's ratings is over 50% with regards to his defence of the homeland, it is the overall ratings that is at 40%.

So why don't they respect our faith and secularities too? 

I've never said all Moslems are terrorists.  I've only said the religion and the founder of the religion led a bloody campaign during his time.  All who commit attrocities in the name of the religion will have an excuse in Muhammad for their action.

No man who claims to be a Christian can lay any blame of violence on Jesus Christ.  It just wont stick.

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@TayoD,

It seems I have touched something that is hurting you.

Never make bold statements that are flat wrong unless you know what you are talking about.

Your claim that the pre mid term polls and surveys did not reflect the true position of the Americans is 100% wrong.

You claim that majority of Americans are in support of Bush on the invasion of Iraq is flat wrong.

Events have since settled the issues and you should hide your head in shame.

Now, you have started a new issue with bomb scare even when it has been established that no explosive material was found, another dead end, another wrong conclusion based on another wrong premise and mindset.

Quoting the bible as a byline will not deceive everyone, seeing through your many mistakes, lies and hate filled ideology is way too easy. I have come across a lot of people that claim to be christains when in the real sense they stink big time, christians don't lie, you do, so that makes you a non christain or at best a lying hypocrite.

A liar is someone that lies, I can't remember telling anyone on this forum but I have stated more than 2 that you are shamelessly denying.

Promise not to post any more lies if I reproduce the statement you are denying and I will oblige you, it is not a difficult task to do mind you so do not bank on my not willing to search and reproduce it.

@Johnny,

Wasting valuable space on people like you will not be a good idea, by the way your comment on the issue is neither here nor there, it is not compulsory to contribute especially when you cannot make sense.

4Play,

I am amazed that you are still trying to justify the very wrong statement about majority of Iraqis supporting the invasion. I should point you to a website? Na wahoo.

You may contact CNN directly via their website to ask such basic question and believe me they will reply you.

Someone stated something about Nigerians complaining about America even when they spend time trying to get visas. Well, it is important to note that not everyone fancies the idea of travelling out of Nigeria and that they spent a lot of time and money attempting to go to the US or have actually gone to the US does not mean that others are like them.

Opposing the wrong things done by the US is better than being blind supporter simply because you like a country.

@TayoD,

You seem too confused to make sense.

Are you denying making the statement or what?

Come clear with an answer so I can decide whether to reproduce the statement you are shamelessly denying on one hand and subtly agreeing to on another.

You are simply too inconsistent for one to take you seriously.

The issue about bombing is a no go area but it is an established fact that not all suicide bombers are muslims and that alone rubbishes the name calling and insult to a religion based on your wrong premises.

I guess information is coming out now to state that there was no explosive material in your great find yet you have long proceeded to blame followers of Allah and ranting endlessly and needlessly.

@TayoD,

I guess you have suddenly remembered your statement. If I have put a spin on it, please remove the spin and repeat your statement so that the users of this forum will know what we stand for.

I do not have any problems with you being wrong, I have a problem with you trying to label contrary opinions that events keep proving right as being politically correct as if there is anything wrong in someone being politically, morally or even technically correct.

I guess with your subtle acknowledgement, it will be a waste of time to reproduce the statement you initially denied but at the same time trying to smuggle through the back door.

Enjoy, have fun and learn to respect people regardless of race or religion!

TayoD,

I guess you are gradually digging your own grave.

Tell us what you will do if I reproduce what you are denying now even on this forum.

I like it when people state one thing and when confronted they deny, makes discussion easier with such people.

My initial reaction was to ignore the shameful denial but on a second thought I would love to reproduce it, I only need to know what you are staking as you know very well that you are lying through your teeth right now.

NB: Because what you say in life because you may be forced to swallow them one day.

Is it free or fee based?

If free, I have quite a handful that needs setting up.

@Easyy,

Thanks, we really do not have many options as regards making sure we discuss issues based on facts, it helps everyone but those that do not like truth.

Enjoy!

@TayoD,

People on my side have always produced facts and events have always proved us right and if that is all there is to being politically correct, I am for it.

Truth shall always prevail over lies and deceit no matter how long it takes.

It is better to rant than to lie or hate people based on religion.

This wasn't meant to be a new post but a follw up to an existing one on another board, wouldn't know why it was posted here as a new post even with a title I would not have used in the first place.

I would have posted it in this section only when the project would have reached a certain level.

While I do not object t the mvement, I hope the moderators on this site will deem it fit to ask for permission from topic wners before they change either the subject or the main message as only the poster can correctly pass across his or her message to the public.

So, it is not my intention to take your valuable time for a project that is not even up to 50% complete even in terms of the skeleton, the post would have sufficed under the board I posted it as it was a follow up on an ongoing discussion.

Could anyone comment on the skeleton of this website?

An integrated online payment system, instant messenger with voice (web based, no need t dwnlad or install anything) and audio, photo and video upload modules are the outstanding modules that are intended fr the site.

www.ijann.com

Please, remember that the different modules are being develped from scratch to guarantee maximum flexibility as against installing some scripts that may not allow one tweak the code in good time.

I have come to believe that you should reinvent the wheel if necessary.

Both constructive and destructive criticisms are welcome.