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OmniPotens:
Remember i pulled this from a previous thread which i posted the link. It baffled me even you Afam couldn't contain reading that line where the original poster said he/she will not be happy to get Nigerian developers to meet with better people with new and better technologies. For me, i wondered at what this new technology we don't know was all about.

If I missed it then you should have taken it up immediately you saw it and in doing so it should be clear to all.

I respond to things I want to respond to and based on some of her comments I even stated that the brand/website she was basing her comments on can be reproduced from scratch in 30 minutes or so from design to database and applicable programming.

So, if I could state that what will stop me from commenting on any other issue I want to comment on?

This forum does not belong to me neither was her remark directed at me so if you see a negative comment directed at web developers you have the right to comment on it. Wondering why I did not and yet you didn't is something I cannot understand.

Even this thread you started have you noticed the number of replies and views before the main purpose of the thread became clear based on your last response?

Also remember that this forum or board is not an association neither is anyone the mouthpiece of web developers and no one is being paid to defend any position here so user participation is completely out of free will and optional.

For the records

1. Has anyone accused Dele of corruption?

2. Has anyone claimed that he is corrupt?

3. Has anyone linked OVATIOn to corruption?

I am putting these questions down because it seems that some retards here don't even have any understanding of the issue on ground as regards Dele's magazine and his column at Thisday.

rikkyjen:
Elitist arguement!.

If our society is not enmeshed and trapped in the doldrums of perpetual corruption, this your "how you made your money" arguement won't hold!
Even though you live in the West, buddy i am dissapointed! You surely know that "how you made your money" in the US and GB is a thing that concerns the all and sundry. So because Nigeria is a place where anything goes, "How you made your money" shouldn't interest Mr Momodu before he deitifies you?

A consistent truth you don't wanna handle and you fail to grapple is that Mr Momodu's praise singing anthem for this thieves encourages corruption inherently!. He is supposed to be doing the opposite for F@#$k sake Hannibal!!!!,  When you hero-worship Chris Uba on the pages of Ovation as Momodu did, you give the unborn Chukwuma in Onitsha or the 5-year old Chinonzo the impetus and galls to believe that what Chris Uba did is not only legitimate but acceptable, legal, justifiable and even spiritually sanctioned by the Almighty

Son, actions like this maintains and elongates the status quo of corruption that has plagued mother Nigeria ab initio.


We both know the Swiss are rescinding their laws and airing their dirty laundry. Try stashing a huge payday in Switzerland and watch Interpol storm your house like Hurricane Betty!

UK banks and USA banks? Man mi, you know better that since 9/11 the Americans have closed down on money laundering! Hell, the Americans are not allowing charities (in dollars) to tons of countries cos of the fear of Osama getting the money to finance sh!t to blow Obama's residence!

Hell, have had  calls from my local FBI office anytime i make some couple of wirings with mere "thousands" of Dollars asking questions. Your money laundering arguement is  straw-like bro!

You have a prayer on this! I never disputed that fact that Momodu's corrupt behind patronises corrupt and thieving bastards by putting thier glossy pics in centre spread of his magazines.

Me antagonising Momodu is based on the premise of him being part of the Aristocrats who have milked us dry while using Thisday newspaper as his podium for critiquing the same Nigeria that he helped turned into a place of permanent rot and a country that has become a prototype for failure in the continent.

Thank God we are being brought back to the issues.

Unfortunately, we may only see insults as replies to this post above especially by people that cannot defend their positions on issues.

~Sauron~:
What core issues?
I have never seen you made any iota of sense on this topic.

Some have eyes but cannot see.
Some have brains but cannot use them.
Your olodoness is becoming too embarrassing.

~Sauron~:
Why should i envy Igbo boys?
Has Ngige won Nobel Laureate?
Ewu Ara!!!

Must you see everything through a tribal prism? And who is laughing with this clown? Only a mad man initiates and laughs at his stupid dry comments that he may foolishly call jokes.

~Sauron~:
Stop the pretence. . . . . . You are not intelligent enough to grasp what we are talking about here.
Your deep-rooted tribalism has beclouded your failing senses.

Tribalism ke? Hmm, this guy should just take otapiapia and go to sleep.

The typical strategy of a confused person - make all sorts of accusations and allegations no matter how stupid while avoiding the core issues.

~Sauron~:
After all these years? Were we primary school mates to know what i used to be?
I don't care whose horse is gored. . . . . . .These Igbo boys get me antsy these days with their heap of applesauce.
Ovation has nothing to do with Naija Politicians stashing funds in their private accounts.

Igbo boys? Good, this is how envy and jealousy are manifested. Wetin Igbo boys do you Mr Clown? Making progress while you argue and insult people from morning till night?

~Sauron~:
Afam, you are a man of limited intelligence.
U will never get it. . . . .What a lobotomised ape!!!

Seems this pig is using the internet well, at least to vent his frustrations lest he dies of self inflicted pains. Maybe a product of a broken and extremely disorganized home. Sorry ehn. I didn't know you have much bigger problems than I had thought.

~Sauron~:
May God add to your bundle of intelligence.

He is being blamed for even putting Nigerian journalism on the map.
A venture that has employed many Nigerians and putting food on their table.
Why should i blame Momodu for Abacha's mismanagement.

The cost of overheads forced him to go to Ghana.
I don't blame him for that. If Nigeria was conducive enough, he wouldn't have moved to Ghana.
The cost of running such a huge venture in Nigeria woulda put him outta business with the epileptic power supply and other nonsense.

The write up above goes to show that you clearly do not understand the issue at all.

When asked a question you are expected to provide answers to the question. You are not allowed to ask your own question based on your limited knowledge and then proceed to answer the question no one asked you in the first instance.

Has anyone ever questioned the quality of the OVATION magazine here? Are you on drugs?

Everyone must not agree with you especially when you are unable to process information intelligently.

Can someone tell this clown what the issue is in any language he can understand?

~Sauron~:
I don't join issues with ignoramuses so asking him to justify his drivel is bollocks.

So Dele is corrupt cos he has a global venture? OK Magazine is corrupt as well?
See the thinking of these half-baked graduates.

How dare you abuse others when you have displayed an extremely low level of reasoning and comprehension here?

Who stated or even remotely implied that Dele was corrupt? How on earth did the magazine and the word corrupt end up being used in one question?

Are you really this daft?

You cannot hide your stupidity by abusing anyone that does not expressly agrees with your myopic comments here.

~Sauron~:
Ma right starts and stops where i want it to.
A sheep shagger like you is far far below me to be telling me about ma rights.
Association of Igbo trolls.

If you get home today tell your father that he is a sheep shagger.

Nope, your right starts and stops where people who tolerate you allow it to start and stop. With me, I will put you exactly where you belong - trash can.

~Sauron~:
I don't give a rat's ass about what he agrees. . . . .He should disagree with Dele's concept not tell me my reasoning is twisted.
Why do we have fickle-minded twats in here FFS?


Don't ever say ma reasoning is twisted. . . . . .Attack Dele Momodu, don't attack me.
You narrow-minded gits should learn how to articulate your words.
Arrant nonsense!!!

Hmm, wait oooo, if someone puts down something that seems (or is) twisted are you saying no one should or can make a statement that the statement is (or looks) twisted?

You may be better off asking the guy to explain or justify the comment.

I can bet you that no corrupt Nigerian wants to be seen as corrupt or will even agree he/she is corrupt.

Just thinking allowed here as I cannot understand how someone that has used very bad words on people on this thread is telling another not to state that his reasoning is twisted.

We must learn to understand where our rights stop and where the rights of others begin.


@topic,

It is becoming rather unfortunate that some people have twisted the issue and turned this into a case of hate, envy, jealousy etc while conveniently avoiding the core issues that bother on Dele's column where he seems to be blaming corrupt Nigerians even when he celebrates them in his magazine.

Moves:
Afam , Ofcourse I read his earlier reply, but my statement was directed at the reply posted above, which he wrote after reading the link where his person was battered and he still showed humility by replying and I dont see anything much wrong with his reply IMO,

Of course, he had to show humility because he may have realized that there are independent minded people who say things as they are and who will not tolerate his insults in the earlier response.

Put differently, the shock he got that Nigerians are wiser than he thought gave room for what you call humility.

nobilia:
Born praise singers, I hate you all. What has he said to address issues raised against him rather he found it a good time to promote Ovation and his facebook fans.
Dele didn't find it worthwhile to join issues with us on nairaland or defend our criticism and some of you are here praising him still.
I spit on you all two edged swords and praise singers. I stand on my words that Dele should limit his articles to praise singing and entertainment news, any article on national discourse from him is a no no for me.

Don't generalize because not everyone has done (or is doing) a u-turn on this issue.

I am simply too shocked at some comments here to even comment on them.

I take sides on issues based on principles and my support or conscience is not for sale.

His handling of the criticisms was very poor as he failed to address the issues raised but instead reduced the whole wahala to people being frustrated, not in tune with the current trend, being envious of his OVATION etc.

From my inbox.

Interesting but disturbing trend.

Obama may just be another Bush in a different frame.

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Liberation – Not A Fictitious State
by Hasan Abu Nimah

Late last month, Salam Fayyad, the appointed Palestinian
Authority (PA) prime minister in Ramallah, made a surprise
announcement: he declared his intention to establish a
Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip before
the end of 2011 regardless of the outcome of negotiations
with Israel.

Fayyad told the London Times that he would work to build
"facts on the ground, consistent with having our state
emerge as a fact that cannot be denied." His plan was
further elaborated in a lengthy document grandly titled
"Program of the Thirteenth Government of the Palestinian
National Authority."

The plan contains all sorts of ambitious ideas: an inter-
national airport in the Jordan Valley, new rail links to
neighboring states, generous tax incentives to attract
foreign investment, and of course strengthening the
"security forces." It also speaks boldly of liberating
the Palestinian economy from its dependence on Israel,
and reducing dependence on foreign aid.

This may sound attractive to some, but Fayyad has neither
the political clout nor the financial means to propose
such far-reaching plans without a green light from
Washington or Tel Aviv.

Fayyad aims to project an image of a competent Palestinian
administration already mastering the craft of running a
state. He boasts, for instance, that the PA he heads has
worked to "develop effective institutions of government
based on the principles of good governance, accountability
and transparency."

But what is really taking shape in the West Bank today
is a police state, where all sources of opposition or
resistance -- real or suspected -- to either the PA
regime, or the Israeli occupation are being systematically
repressed by US-funded and trained Palestinian "security
forces" in full coordination with Israel. Gaza remains
under tight siege because of its refusal to submit to
this regime.

In describing the Palestinian utopia he hopes to create,
Fayyad's plan declares that "Palestine will be a stable
democratic state with a multi-party political system.
Transfer of governing authority is smooth, peaceful and
regular in accordance with the will of the people,
expressed through free and fair elections conducted in
accordance with the law."

A perfect opportunity to demonstrate such an exemplary
transfer would have been right after the January 2006
election which as the entire world knows Hamas won fairly
and cleanly. Instead, those who monopolize the PA leader-
ship today colluded with outside powers first to cripple
and overthrow the elected Hamas government, and then the
"national unity government" formed by the Mecca Agreement
in early 2007, entrenching the current internal Palestinian
division. (Fayyad's own party won just two percent at the
2006 election, and his appointment as prime minister by
PA leader Mahmoud Abbas was never -- as required by law
-- approved by the Palestinian Legislative Council, dozens
of whose elected members remain behind Israeli prison
bars.)

From 1994 to 2006, more than eight billion US dollars were
pumped into the Palestinian economy, making Palestinians
the most aid-dependent people on earth, as Anne Le More
showed in her important book International Assistance to
the Palestinians after Oslo: Political Guilt; Wasted Money
(London, Routledge, 2008). The PA received this aid
ostensibly to build Palestinian institutions, improve
socioeconomic development and support the creation of an
independent state. The result however is that Palestinians
are more destitute and aid-dependent than ever before,
their institutions are totally dysfunctional, and their
state remains a distant fantasy.

PA corruption and mismanagement played a big part in
squandering this wealth, but by far the largest wealth
destroyer was and remains the Israeli occupation. Contrary
to what Fayyad imagines, you cannot "end the occupation,
despite the occupation."

A telling fact Le More reveals is that the previous
"programs" of the PA (except those offered by the
Hamas-led governments) were written and approved by
international donor agencies and officials and then
given to the PA to present back to the same donors
who wrote them as if they were actually written by
the PA!


Everything we see suggests Fayyad's latest scheme follows
exactly the same pattern. What is particularly troubling
this time is that the plan appears to coincide with a
number of other initiatives and trial balloons that
present a real danger to the prospects for Palestinian
liberation from permanent Israeli subjugation.

Recently, the International Middle East Media Center, an
independent Palestinian news organization, published what
it said was the leaked outline of a peace plan to be
presented by US President Barack Obama.

That plan included international armed forces in most of
the Palestinian "state"; Israeli annexation of large parts
of East Jerusalem; that "All Palestinian factions would
be dissolved and transformed into political parties"; all
large Israeli settlements would remain under permanent
Israeli control; the Palestinian state would be largely
demilitarized and Israel would retain control of its
airspace; intensified Palestinian-Israeli "security
coordination"; and the entity would not be permitted to
have military alliances with other regional countries.

On the central issue of the right of return for Palestinian
refugees, the alleged Obama plan allows only an agreed
number of refugees to return, not to their original homes,
but only to the West Bank, particularly to the cities of
Ramallah and Nablus.

It is impossible to confirm that this leaked document
actually originates with the Obama administration. What
gives that claim credibility, however, is the plan's very
close resemblance to a published proposal sent to Obama
last November by a bipartisan group of US elder statesmen
headed by former US national security advisors Brent
Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski. Moreover, recent
press reports indicate a lively debate within the Obama
Administration about whether the US should itself publish
specific proposals for a final settlement once negotiations
resume; so there is little doubt that concrete proposals
are circulating.

Indeed there is little of substance to distinguish these
various plans from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu's concept of "economic peace" and a demilitarized
Palestinian statelet under overall Israeli control, with
no right of return for refugees. And, since all seem to
agree that the Jordan Valley -- land and sky -- would
remain under indefinite Israeli control, so would Fayyad's
airport.

Similar gimmicks have been tried before: who remembers
all the early Oslo years' hullabaloo about the Gaza
International Airport that operated briefly under strict
Israeli control before Israel destroyed it, and the
promised Gaza seaport whose construction Israel forbade?

There are two linked explanations for why Fayyad's plan
was launched now. US Middle East envoy George Mitchell
has repeatedly defined his goal as a "prompt resumption
and early conclusion" of negotiations. If the kinds of
recycled ideas coming from the alleged Obama plan, the
Scowcroft-Brzezinski document, or Netanyahu, are to have
any chance, they need to look as if there is a Palestinian
constituency for them. It is Fayyad's role to provide
this.

The second explanation relates to the ongoing struggle
over who will succeed Mahmoud Abbas as president of the
PA. It has become clear that Fayyad, a former World Bank
official unknown to Palestinians before he was boosted
by the George W. Bush Administration, appears to be the
current favorite of the US and other PA sponsors. Channel-
ing more aid through Fayyad may be these donors' way of
strengthening Fayyad against challengers from Abbas'
Fatah faction (Fayyad is not a member of Fatah) who have
no intention of relinquishing their chokehold on the PA
patronage machine.

Many in the region and beyond hoped the Obama Administr-
ation would be a real honest broker, at last bringing
American pressure to bear on Israel, so that Palestinians
might be liberated. But instead, the new administration
is acting as an efficient laundry service for Israeli
ideas; first they become American ones, and then a
Palestinian puppet is brought in to wear them.

This is not the first scheme aimed at extinguishing
Palestinian rights under the guise of a "peace process,"
though it is most disappointing that the Obama
Administration seems to have learned nothing from the
failures of its predecessors. But just as before, the
Palestinian people in their country and in the Diaspora
will stand stubbornly in the way of these efforts. They
know that real justice, not symbolic and fictitious
statehood, remains the only pillar on which peace can be
built.

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Hasan Abu Nimah is the former permanent representative of
Jordan at the United Nations.

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Moves:
Nigerian's And there Pull Him Down mentality, what has the Dude done wrong, what exactly are we accusing him, if anything the guy should be praised as an innovator and pacesetter for photo journalism which like it or not serves the need of some people in the society and creates job, For pete's sake we atleast know his source of livelyhood unlike majority of nigerians public servants & politicians past & present that their means cannot be attested to, Moreover one cannot fail to see the humility in his reply, not ala rueben abati reply

The content in bold refers, obviously you did not read his earlier response/reply or that you read it and chose to ignore the insults.

Jarus:
After sending him the threads that discuss him, Mr. Momodu replies me as follow:

Much as I also disagree with him on many grounds, I plead with all nairalanders to thread softly with him. He appears concerned about our criticisms and I hope he will also learn one or two things.

Seems you have forgotten the insults and bad remarks he made about people who disagreed with him earlier on the same subject matter.

You don't insult people and expect them to thread softly.

I don't believe in insults (either direction) but on Dele's response and handling of the issue I must state that it falls short of expectation considering the number of years he has spent in the journalism business.

I hope he has learned a thing or two from the exchanges anyway.

Meanwhile, it seems it is now an established fact that he rarely concludes a piece without putting down MKO's name. Na wah ooo.

naijaking1:
Ozomgbachi? Is that one of Nnamani's political thugs in Ebeano?
The guy can hardly read, you're lucky he was reading the statement upside down.

Is the guy really from Enugu state?

OgidiBoy:
I'm not too familiar with the Volts and Amps used in Nigeria so I won't talk too much about that. 0.1A is really not that much, A 277V 60Hz ballast that is used to power a simple 2 lamp florescent fixture needs 0.22 Amps. So it really does depend on the device.

Nigeria is on 230V.

Any appliance that requires 0.22amps in the US with 115V will require 0.11amps at 230V. However, the appliance must be ready to work with 230V to work.

These companies and their websites with so many errors.

Sent an email to UBA on my inability to access the Udirect website as the login button doesn't work, have been trying since last week. They responded and confirmed that the address was ok.

I normally use Chrome or Firefox and have been trying to login without any luck. Then it occurred to me it might be a browser compatibility problem and I then fired up IE8 that I have but rarely use and the application worked just fine.

I sent a reply telling them that the application worked when I used IE and made it clear that for a bank it is poor style to have a major application working in a particular browser and not all or most of the browsers out there.

I have IE8 running and the most up to date versions of any software I use and that is because I play around with a lot of technologies. I am even running virtual desktops on my laptop with multiple operating systems.

I guess I also need clarification as regards what the original poster means by latest technologies and what time frame he believes one must embrace the latest technologies otherwise the person can be said to be lagging behind.

In fact to help the debate, what are these new technologies so that we can have a common reference point?

@yawatide,

When did these companies implement the latest technologies when compared to when these technologies came out?

Even as successful as google is anytime it ventures into any new technology it tags the solution as beta and tells you that nothing is guaranteed and that the solution may be discontinued at their discretion.

My point is that once money is involved the owner of the business would not want to gamble with what has not been tested and proven ok to warrant spending money.

NB: Do not use the 2 - 3 years to hammer me because I just posted a known fact when it comes to the world's most successful and popular operating system and its rated of adoption especially when new versions are released.

therock32:
I have developed an Academic Transcript Application Portal for University and Poly to enable graduates apply for their transcripts online.

I need help to sell this solution to schools or banks

Kindly Help. You can reach me on 08036891325, taiwotherock@yahoo.com

Why don't you upload a version of the application online (with limited functionality if need be) so that you will have a wider audience as regards advertisement and recommendation.

Do you intend to write schools and visit them to show them what you have developed?

Just trying to figure a cost effective way of getting the message out because any money spent without a corresponding sale will mean that you will be losing money instead of making money and I am sure that is not what you have set out to do.

Latest technologies do not always mean better technologies.

In fact, reliable solutions do not rely on latest technologies as anything may and can go wrong which might impact a business negatively.

For me, I focus on what has been tested and proven. Tested technologies are more reliable and that explains why big organisations usually wait up to 2, 3 or more years to switch to a new version of technology like Windows operating system. There are companies that have not used anything more current than Windows XP yet, Vista has come and gone and we are talking about Windows 7.

Smaller businesses and individuals are more likely to embrace and use latest technologies because the risks are not as high as those big organisations are exposed to if something goes wrong.

EnobongOS:
A perfectly working web-enabled and comprehensive Human Resources/Payroll Software is needed urgently. If you have kindly comtact email: enobongoudoh@yahoo.com NOW and be ready for urgent live presentation please.

I don't have any but based on experience I will make some points that you are very free to discard.

1. Unless you run a generic company where every single aspect of what needs to be automated or web enabled is common to as many generic companies out there as possible chances are that you will need a highly customized/tweaked solution or a new solution built from scratch based on your requirements.

2. I built a software for an oil servicing firm about 2 - 3 years ago from scratch and before doing so I was informed by the company that two companies had earlier done presentations of some off the shelf products they had with them and they were not satisfied with what the solutions had to offer. They told me this because they asked me to do a demo and I responded that I must be paid to do any demo because I will spend my time and energy to develop one and as such I don't do free demos. (Well, I guess the fact that someone that knows them too well recommended me for the project made them not to show me the door as the boss could not hide the shock that someone had the guts to insist he will not do any free demos when 2 companies had done demos for them).

I simply told them that I can web enable any business process they want to enable that it all depends on them to tell me exactly what they want. What happened? Had some discussions with them concerning the features and functionalities including access control, agreed on what made perfect sense and the cheque was signed, project developed and delivered within the stipulated time frame (under 30 days) and everyone was happy.

3. So, just realize that many people who get off the shelf products end up not getting what they want unless of course what they need to do remains very common.

Considering the fact that once payments are made for projects like these you rarely get your money back so it is better you arm yourself with enough relevant information to be able to make a buying decision.

Sometimes, it is cost effective to develop a software solution from scratch than to attempt to tweak an already existing one.

37ports:
Please dear Naira-Landers like me, I need an advice. My website developing and hosting company charged us Five Million Naira (N5, 000,000) for a three year no extra fee contract. This includes advertising through Google and Yahoo. Advertising us in every available forums and chat websites and once in a while, advert appearances in newspapers.

But since the website has been hosted and running, we have been solely responsible for our own advertisements and placing ourselves in forum and chat rooms and Google too. In fact, when we search our company through Google or Yahoo search, the only places we find our website listed are places we personally got them listed.

We have currently made payment of Three Million Naira (N3,000,000) with a balance of Two Million Naira (N2,000,000) to be given to them. Now my pain is do I pay up the remaining balance or jest tell them off since we are the ones that ended up doing the promotion by ourselves. I NEED ADVICE FAST as I will not like to cheat them, but I felt they have cheated me.

This is what happens when someone wants to hear what he/she wants to hear as against what the person should hear.

If you have a contract then get a lawyer to take a good look at it before deciding to do anything because in the real sense can you prove that they have not done (or are not doing) what you paid them to do?

N5M for a 3 years contract and today is the first time I am hearing about this website?

Well, do what makes the most sense to you because ultimately whatever decision you may take only you will bear the full consequences.

Good luck.

Printing our money abroad may also give the printers the freedom to print naira since all it will cost them is the cost of printing the money, not so?

No wahala.

Enjoy the rest of the week.

That was why I stated that by the time this bank wahala is over new media houses would have been opened, existing ones would have made a lot of money and in the process the reading, listening or watching public would have been fed with all sorts of information from outright lies to conspiracy theories and to imaginations of the writers.

At the end of the day the average Nigerian who should be better informed may just become more confused and inconsistent based on conflicting reports by media houses on the same thing.

We are still far from responsible or investigative journalism in this country.

Akanniade:
In answer to your question. Yes I used to. My very first inverter I built myself, xformer winding and all. You of all people shud know that building by hand requires a larger core to get to get a comparable power rating with a smaller core machine wound. Hand winding is a brute force approach to a technology that is already perfected. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Reputable companies make use of high permeability cores hence a more compact design. I am not into inverter sales or services but whenever I see false claims I cant help but refute.

Without meaning to disrespect you I will state the following based on your comments.

1. You used to build inverters but don't do so now.

Why? Is it that you could not get it right and as such have taken a position that because you could not get it right no other person could?

2. You stated on another thread that you have tried inverters from India and China and that they are not reliable at all.

Your 2 years of using inverters including building yourself and buying imported inverters don't give you the right or the expertise to make categorical statements about inverters.

3. The inverter I use in my office was built locally and I have never used a generator in my office for over 5 years and hardly use a generator in my house. This means that we do things right, we build reliable inverters and offer meaningful enforceable warranties on them.

Your comment on reinventing the wheel will not be delved into because that often quoted phrase is one of the major reasons why the inverters you have bought from China and India have always failed even when these inverters are built in semi or fully automated production lines with state of the art machine tools.

Akanniade:
Afam, what about the guy claiming to recycle inverter power? What is your take on that? When I advocate buying, I mean from a company with accreditation. Good things dont come cheap. Unfortunately Nigerians are always lookin 4 short cuts. Even people who lack knowledge of the most basic rudiments of electronics suddenly claim to be experts. I think I have said enough. LOL

The 3rd post on this thread was made by me so I don't see why you are asking what my take is on the guy's claim.

No one knows everything about technology so dismissing a claim simply because you are not aware is not the way to go as you may be wrong.

I asked the poster relevant questions as anyone should.

Never knew it would be easy to prove that you lack any form of credibility.

Have you noticed how you have carefully avoided the facts and have instead chosen to stick with words like "may", "reason", "likely" and "justify"?

As they say when issues come to logic some people begin to see ghosts.

As information flow and access increases by the day people like you who will shamelessly agree that your people are foolish just because a northerner stated so will be easily identified just as I have stated that the Igbos must look for the enemies within who masquerade as politicians, contractors and internet warriors like this man.

An Igbo man cannot discuss what he thinks others think of the Igbo but a shameless Igbo man who effortlessly agree that his people are foolish just because a northerner stated so?

God forbid the day I will have to see the Igbos for what they are through the words of non Igbos.

You are a shameless Igbo man. You have done enough to prove that indeed your credibility is lower than zero.

Or, did you miss out the part where your savior and mentor stated that the Igbos are foolish people?

I thought he gave his approval to EFCC.

While making valid claims we should also update the reading public on what is going on lest we make decisions based on incorrect statements.

Onlytruth:
@Afam

I never set out to dictate to you what opinions you should hold. I'm only saying you should at least be reasonable and objective, and not simply parrot positions which reflect a perfidious perpetual guilt of a people for the crimes of a few in 1966.
Even a northerner sees my point. Here is what Sanusi Lamido Sanusi wrote in the article published in 1999 posted here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-282326.0.html

You have no right to tell me about objectivity here. You are referencing a northerner because you believe he supports your position, right? Does his support equate to being right?

What of the countless number of northerners that hold opposing views to that of Sanusi?

Would you also support Sanusi if he makes a u-turn tomorrow?

Your point is your point, Sanusi's point is his. I have a right to have mine.

The correctness or otherwise of my points have nothing to do with you agreeing to the points.

I am sure if I travel to the SE and pick up a membership card from MASSOB you will turn around and claim that my points make sense.

Please, spare me the rhetorics and discuss issues based on facts. I don't have time for double speak and I am not lazy to the extent that I allow people to think for me.

Present information based on facts and allow people to make up their minds. You cannot think for anyone.

Having said that, this nation must realise that Igbos have more than paid for their foolishness.

The quote above was taken from what you reproduced as Sanusi's support for your views.

Is it not a shame that you agree with a comment from a northerner that the Igbos are foolish?

In your bid to justify what cannot be justified you have made it clear that you are ok with a northerner telling you that your tribe, your ethnic group and your people are foolish.

Maybe your people are foolish, mine are not foolish.

The Igbos may have made mistakes, they may have been too arrogant but foolish is something I cannot use to describe the Igbos.

Until you are able to prove to us that indeed the Igbos are foolish people I will simply see you as another Igboman who is ready to sell his birthright just to please non Igbos.

@topic,

Can you please state a single reason why you think Ribadu was a fraud?

rhymz:
Afam,i understand your points very well and they re very valid ones.However,i still think the problem goes beyond the mistrust as a result of the coup,i believe that even if the war or the coup never took place,the suituation won't be too different 4rm the present.Maybe most of us ve not yet observed the very unhealthy and destructive regional competiton in this country,it has very little to do with the war and past coup but has a lot to do with the survival of the fittest instict each president(esp 4rm the West and North) has run the Nigerian state to the benefit of thier own region since the war.It's like the war opened thier eyes to the posibilities they never thought existed and that with their region in power,anything can be influenced 4rm the National assembly to the ass-licking Governors(irrespective of thier tribe and allegiance) to the advantage of thier regions,remember that the Nigerian president is the most powerful president in the world when U take into cognizance his executive powers,no country's president has so much executive powers like the President of Nigeria.I still tell oponents to look at the direction of developmental projects,infrastructural development,Educational funding etc since after the war,U will be surprise that of the 3 regions(west,East and north) then,the subsequent Presidents have always favoured either the West or the North when it comes to Federal project.As if that was not enough,they sensed that the eastern region housed a lot of economically prospective fortunes,was culturally heterogeneous and was the region with the most independently-minded set of people,they capitalized on that and tricked them into splitting of the region and came up with a restless South-south region and an economically comatose South-East region.All these maneuverings have been possible all because since after the war,the western and northern region(who ve been the direct beneficiaries of federal power through thier stronghold on power) have tacitly alienated the people of the Eastern region in real positions of influence.Weeping up coup and War sentiments to me is just a hoax to cover the fact that there's a very destructive competition of "Dog eat Dog" going on among the regions.Take for instance the present day nigerian polity,one will think that people 4rm the North re in a hurried jostle for not just power again but the economy and the financial sector,from thier very ruthless biz men,like Dangote(the economy)whose biz module is to monopolize any aspect of the economy that he has interest in by throwing ethics to the gutterz , sabotaging competitors and driving them away with federal powerz and connections.Or the manner they keep mounting pressure on the FG to ve a large chunk of the Financial market and employment of different tactics to hoodwink the public while they take a controlling stake in Finances.Afam,my friend,my point in a nutshell is that the problem in the east has very little to do with past war and coup but a lot to do with the compositions of both the people,the landmass and resources and the cultural difference,in an effort to evenly distribute wealth and resources,greed and survival of the fittest instinct have taken the better part of the plan and that's why a non-easterner does't see anything wrong with the way the whole of the eastern region is treated.

My friend, I am not a northerner or a south westerner so cannot speak for them, in fact I don't even have the right to speak for the south easterners. Every post I make here is based on the fact that I am Igbo and have a right to comment on issues concerning the Igbos.

I am not unaware of the envy or jealousy that existed even before the war because even from some members on this forum I have read where the Igbos were accused of being arrogant and flaunting their wealth because a lot of Igbos were doing well as far back as before the independence.

I have also been a victim of the so called quota system and other policies that are being initiated and supported to under develop the south east with active and passive connivance with our own people just for their own selfish ends.

I guess its time we focused our attention on the enemy within as that may be the worst enemy.

Onlytruth:
@Afam

I agree we should not be discussing our survival strategies on public forums of the internet. Any information I give here passes that survival test. Do the same. Think carefully about what you say here.

The content in bold refers, if there is one thing I am sure you cannot question in any way and by any reasonable standard it is my thought process so in as much as you may disagree with my views I would suggest you challenge any positions you have any problems with than advice me to think carefully because I am not a people pleaser neither am I going to become a hypocrite just to be seen as a good Igbo man. I say it as it is and I have no apologies for doing that.

I am ever ready to fight and defend my position based on truth, not because someone somewhere is lying about something and expects me to fight based on misinformation or unnecessary sentiments.

And on survival strategies let it be known that I do not belong to any group or movement but rather I advocate the training of the mind, knowledge acquisition and obtaining relevant skills that are in demand especially in IT related field because this is one area where favoritism don't last and in the final analysis people, bodies or governments would look for you to pay you to do projects regardless of tribe or ethnic group.

biggjoe:
Afam,

It is now obvious that you took my earlier comments personal since you are now pointing out only your stance on the whole issue. It was never about you my brother. Infact your position on the issue was more balanced than others because you always wondered in your post where quad was to clear his name.
For reasons I cant get now you somehow believe I was attacking you.

When a group is accused and someone within the group believes he/she is innocent of the allegation or accusation it makes perfect sense for the person to state his/her case otherwise it will be wrongly assumed that every member of the group is guilty of whatever accusation.

So, I had to repeatedly point out my stand on the issue because I was not guilty of what you were accusing the members here of doing.

biggjoe:
I havent stated anything wrongly because I based my comments on a likely situations. Such situations can be right or wrong.
Unless your are talking of something else.

You made an accusation and that accusation has been proven to be false because my position and comments proved you wrong. Rather than accept your mistake you are trying to justify it. This is the attitude of a typical Nigerian who would rather go to war, lie, defend anything than accept a simple mistake.

Only an insane mind would believe that someone who queried why the person being accused has not responded to the accusation and went ahead to prove that the person actually visited the forum, edited his earlier post while the exchanges were going on but refused to respond to the allegations would be seen as someone taking sides with the person being accused.

We have a huge problem as a people and it is even a bigger problem that we cannot find the courage to admit our mistakes when we make them.

Works like "think" and "likely" have no place when people are talking about facts especially when people are disagreeing on issues. Your personal opinion on anything cannot be a substitute for fact.