Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:30am On Feb 28, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Post on topic
Post facts
You are destroying this thread. When you Southies were insulting Nigeria posting stories about refugees and asylum seekers and drug addicts for the past 3 days , were you not spoiling this thread? My retaliation is hurting y.ou real bad as I can see. Insult Nigeria anytime and I will retaliate, get it? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:21am On Feb 28, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:15am On Feb 28, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Why do we need to fly the Gripen in combat when we have generations of experience passed down from one pilot to the next?
Where does it say our pilots are not combat qualified?
SAAF was defeated in Angola? Who says that?
We shot down plenty Mig-23's - go look up Maj. Johan Rankin http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=131&Itemid=62
SAAF has over 60 Aces in its history.
The real fact of the matter is this: In its entire history, no Nigerian pilot has ever been involved in air to air combat. Yes, all those who fought Nigeria avoided air to air combat because they fear NAF's air power, so the dare not challenge us the way Cuban teenage pilots challenged SAAF. The source you posted showed MiG-23 shot down my ground based anti-aircraft missiles, I SAID SAAF NEVER SHOT DOWN ANY CUBAN MIG-23 JET IN AIR TO AIR COMBAT you dummy ! Can't you use your head? Domingo ! SAAF has NO air force ace pilots, you ran away from Cuban teenage pilots in MiG-23 jets, your Mirage F1s were hiding at their airbases  SAAF only succeeded in using jets to chase slow helicopters around, and you call that air force air power or an ace pilot? One NAF F-7 jet pilot will shoot down all your 10 Rooivalks in 10 minutes. You don't have ANY air to air combat experience jet vs jet of same generation in SAAF....you are at the same level with Nigeria, while NAF beats SAAF in air to ground attack combat with jets or attack helicopters flying thousands of NAF combat sorties, while SAAF Gripens, Hawks, and Rooivalks are redundant with ZERO war experience !  . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:59am On Feb 28, 2015 |
Patchesagain: And so?
IF we remove your imported weapons you will have exactly zero weapons.
What is your point? Nigeria produces weapons/equipment domestically from body armour, night vision goggles, to rifles, to heavy machine guns, to mortars, to APCs, LAVs with twin 23mm cannon, Drones/UAV, rocket pods, etc. Enough to fight as a mechanized infantry . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:03pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: You proved my point that you never even read the PDF. That is a printed list from NATIONAL TREASURY listing the spending of the SANDF for 2015/2016. So dont waste my damn time. The fact that I said its a 16 page PDF proves I read it. It's nothing but a piece of paper until backed up by physical cash. Same way SANDF was boasting about buying A400M Airbus super lift aircraft, and even made part payment, then could not raise the balance cash and your penniless broke air force had to cancel the contract and abandon hope of ever buying A400M aircraft forever. I work in defense industry so I don't follow paper list of wishful weapons purchases unless the government has released cash for it. PDF file papers and budget papers are not cash that buys you weapons....you need real money...SANDF has NO NO NO MONEY for weapons purchase, stop fooling yourself with paper documents, it won't even buy you bananas   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:32pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Msauza: A lot of negative stuffs can be said about SA, but we always come out victorious. The analysts across the world have made various interpretations that when a black SA man takes power, he will drive all white men to the sea. That could not happen in 1994.
They then wrote again that when Nelson Mandela dies, there will be Armageddon in SA, a black man shall kill a white man wherever they meet. Mandela died and was buried and nothing happened, instead we hugged, moaned, cherished and ate together on one table to prove to the world that they were wrong.
Even if there can be evil forces out there, who supported apartheid and are still moaning its abolishment, we are very sorry to tell them that they are just bunch of losers. They can paint the whole net with garbage soiled with propaganda for as much as they can, South Africa shall prevail. The spirit of Ubuntu shall live among us to show the world who are the real propagandists.
South Africa unite!!! . Unite? Not while Zulu blacks are still murdering and Ráping your white citizens 24/7     . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:25pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: If you dont want to read the proof link u asked for thats your problem. That link outlines all defence spending for 2015/2016. When you get the link you asked for you derail your own question....dont waste my time.
Funding for IPV's, OPV's, new torpedos all outlined in the link. Waste your own time, not mine. You posted a wish-list and a daydream of hopes, not reality. I too can sit at home and write list of BMW, Bently, Benz, Range Rover, Lexus that I will buy 2015-2016...but do I have all that cash ready? Web link source is NOT = cash PDF file is 16 pages of paper story and NOT = money #ShowUsSANDFcashForWeapons ! . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:26pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: If that was the case, then air forces would just strap missiles on older generation aircraft.
The F-7 is inferior to the Gripens. F-7 and Gripen both have short range missiles. Come back for review when your Gripens have beyond visual range missiles   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:24pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: Shame you didnt know. The budget speech was on Wednesday.
Projects for this year and their funds
http://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/national%20budget/2015/enebooklets/Vote%2019%20Defence%20and%20Military%20Veterans.pdf
Now kindly sit down. That's money for paying salaries to SANDF troops, pension to retired soldiers/veterans, plenty anti-retroviral HIV drugs for your HIV crippled 30 battalions of soldiers, and loan interest repayment for submarine bank loan debt. SANDF is choking to death for lack of funds, your military is in financial crisis   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:19pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
DieVluit: Yes - to live as colonialists - fleecing Nigerians for days on end. That's how colonialism works. As the formerly colonised Africans flock to Europe, so shall the Nigerians flock to South Africa. Dangote and Nigerian doctors are colonialists ráping South Africa's economy . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:17pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: Fly your rust bucket F7 jets into Australian airspace against Australian fighter pilots who have also never used their most modern fighter jets to shoot down a single enemy aircraft. And let us see how many seconds it will take them to turn you into minced meat. You see how useless your point is?
All SAAF Gripen pilots are fully trained on their machines. And have gone through air combat flying before they even put a big toe inside a Gripen. NAF F-7 jets are not rusty, they came in 2010 and are newer than your Gripen jets. SAAF Gripens have no BVR missile, so you have to engage NAF F-7 jets at close range as we both have short range missiles, we both die together in the air battle. FACT . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:13pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
DieVluit: 2007 article:
http://www.economist.com/node/10263174
Nigeria's drug trade That's all they needed
Illicit drugs flow in from all over and then flow out to Europe
Last year 44% of the west African drug-traffickers arrested in Europe were Nigerian (compared with 3% from Guinea-Bissau). Drugs have been trickling across Nigeria's borders since the 1980s, but over the past few years the trickle has become a torrent. Fool, you proved nothing ! The biggest drug dealers in the world are Italian mafia, Mexican drug barons, and Colombian drug lords. Your source talked only about Europe, the drug peddlers of Mexico and Colombia trade in America. Your source only talks about arrested peddlers, what of those who successfully carry drugs all over the world and are never caught or jailed? See how many holes I picked in your foolish juvenile comment, you boy must be getting a lot of mental capacity upgrade and brain improvement for free by talking with Nigerians on Nairaland, sure you are the smartest boy in your school by now and even your Southie school teachers will be amazed about how much Nigerians have transformed an empty headed Southie student just in a few weeks ! . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:52pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: http://m.mg.co.za/article/2015-02-26-sa-spied-on-own-government-to-get-facts-on-100m-russian-deal
MORE ON SPY SATELLITE - LEAKED SPY CABLES REVEAL MORE DETAILS ON SECRET PROJECT
South Africa’s intelligence service relied on a spy “with direct access to the Russian government” to find out details of its own government’s involvement in a $100-million joint satellite surveillance programme with Russia, the leaked spy cables obtained by Al-Jazeera and shared with The Guardian reveal.
The satellite system, known as Project Condor, which was launched into orbit by Russia in December last year, provides surveillance coverage of the entire African continent. The project has been shrouded in secrecy, with Russia originally refusing to reveal who its client was.Those in the dark appear to have included South Africa’s intelligence agency. But a South African agent with access to Russian military intelligence was able to help, according to a leaked espionage report marked “top secret” and dated August 28 2012.
The intelligence report records a briefing from an agent codenamed “Agent Africanist”, who is identified as having direct links with the government in Moscow and Russian intelligence officers, including those closely involved in the joint satellite project.SurveillanceProject Condor would, the agent reported, place “South Africa in a position to conduct its own aerial surveillance in Africa, potentially right up to Israel for strategic military purposes”. You CANNOT buy military satellite and escape United Nations arms log registration, both buyer and seller will be in violation of legally binding UN Convention on arms transfer. South Africa has no space satellite until confirmed by the Russians who manufacture it. Then Kondor-E is an ordinary satellite not a spy satellite.....Russian sources proved the specifications. Dream on bro , hallucinations are free if charge, even street beggars have them   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:35pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
saengine: I miss the days when this thread was about military matters
Anyways.....confirmed projects for SANDF 2015
- Serial production and acceptance of A-Darter AAM
https://www.saairforce.co.za/seed/public/files/weapon_images/31/4ff598c828649_large.jpg
- Serial production and acceptance of Badger IFV
https://www.shephardmedia.com/media/images/article/841aee91.jpg
- Purchase/upgrade of new heavy weight torpedo for submarines
Known projects currently at Armscor tender stage - Aquisition of three inshore and three offshore patrol vessels (tenders close June 2015)
Projects at development phase with Armscor and Denel
- Marlin family of long range radar guided surface to air missile - Continued work on Umkhonto land based surface to air missile for SA Army GBADS program
https://admin.denel.co.za/uploads/4f37761a26ba11b2fa44aa5a84d6719b.jpg
Unconfirmed projects - Purchase of Seeker 400 UAV by SA Air Force - Purchase and apparent operation of defence intelligence spy satellite Show us proof of money released, you have no money for new weapons, cannot even afford one single Mokopa ATGM....SANDF is broke long term....your military under a self imposed arms embargo....cashless and penniless    . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:28pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Citation needed ANd btw, countries like the UK and US have increased Visa restrictions on Nigeria because of your criminal nature https://www.passportvisasexpress.com/visa_services/nigeria/country_news
Here in Seoul, the only people who deal drugs are Nigerians in Itaewon. Think about that for a second. As far away as Korea, its not Triad's, its not the Russian mob, its not Filipino street gangs, its definitely not the Koreans themselves... its Nigerias who are the drug dealers - the country furthest from Korea.
What is it about Nigerians and crime?
You will be happy to know that Koreans dislike Nigerians just as much as everyone else in the world
You truly are a nation of criminals. South Africans are still the räpe masters, and murder champions of Africa. No controversy. . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:24pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 1. Ridiculous demand 2. Citation needed 3. Citation needed 4. Ridiculous demand
Stop wasting our time, and the irony that it was you whom complained about the quality of this thread  Yes, and my complaint is valid until you show us evidence that South Africa is issuing asylum papers to Nigerians instead of normal immigrant visas. You made claims without any evidence to prove it, that's bad quality for this thread. Fraudster ! . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:18pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You know nothing of the law, yet you argue?
There are prescribed sentences for such things. Oscar was found guilty of Culpable Homicide (man-slaughter) which holds a light sentence. He is not guilty of murder.
South Africa follows a model of reformative justice, not your archaic system of punitive justice. Your justice system has not reformed any criminal, your ràpists continue to ràpe the more, while your murders continue to murder beyond control. South African people are deformed beyond any reformation . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:38pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Citation needed
Citation needed
Liar. You need someone to give you citation on how Britain failed to defeat IRA terrorists on British soil for 27 years? Lol...see why I said Hyundai Heavy Industries will never employ a retaard like you and make you an expatriate worker in South Korea   |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: How is dangote raping our economy?
You forget how many companies we have establishing monopolys in your country... and you come here and talk of some cement manufacturer who isnt even in Africa's top 50?
You are a stale joke at this point. Monopoly is NOT allowed in Nigeria by law. MTN has competition from Nigerian Globacom and Visafone. Dangote is azz räping South African economy he removed 1 billion Rands from the pockets of your brainless corporate executives and BEE sponsored incompetent shareholders....Dangote sallowed your billion rands and you are crying unable to do anything.....foolish nation   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:06pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: SAAF has 60 years of combat deployments under its belt.
From the skies of Germany to Angola - we have more Aces than you have pilots
Reminder: No Nigerian pilot has ever shot down a single enemy aircraft Reminder: No single South African pilot has ever used your current Gripen and Hawk jets to sh.oot down a single enemy aircraft. Your pilots are even not combat qualified to use Gripen jet in war. Ancient Mirage jets of Angloan war got SAAF defeated by teenage Cuban pilots, you never shot d.own Cuban MiG-23 jets air to air. SAAF has no aces by world standard, Gripen jet ace, whom did he shoot down with a Gripen.... Kenya Airways 747 ? . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:59pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Olifant is now wholly South African
As is the Rooikat, Rooivalk, G5, G6, Casspir, IED/Mine Clearance Vehicals, Mortars, radio's, optics, tranpsort vehicals, MRAP transport vehicals, tactical transport vehicals, supply vessel (biggest built in africa)
Not to mention domestic upgrades on the Super Puma (to Oryx), Hawk, Valour Class, C130's etc etc etc
Only a minority of our weapons are imported
100% of Nigerian weapons are imported or produced as copies in Nigeria. If we remove the key European made imported Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine from SANDF aresenal, Angola will defeat South Africa in one day. Your DENEL home made weapons can only save you from Burundi and Swaziland . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:51pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: No, Nigerian Doctors and mathematics teachers have fled Nigeria for a better life in South Africa. No, it's the South African professionals and executives of Shoprite, MTN, SASOL, and Stanbic Bank that have fled South Africa for a better life in Nigeria . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:44pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 2 day battle and a cease-fire forced on the enemy is now a panicked escape?
lol - ok 2 day battle? Where? How? When? SANDF Elite Paratroopers (Forever lost their title of 'Elite' after the battle) and Special Forces (Demoted to 'Ordinary Forces' after Seleka's bashing) lasted only 13 to 18 hours in the claws of Seleka farmer rebels before SANDF catapulted themselves into Bangui airport speaking French language under tension, sweating and stammering in the process, nevertheless the French army understood their babbling as saliva flowed endlessly like lapping dogs from South African army officers mouth, they understood because the SANDF white flag was still in their hands, symbol of Seleka superiority in battle.....this history cannot be rewritten   . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:05pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: What Alpha jets?
Ivory Coast Airforce was destroyed by the French in 2004 NAF landed before the French attack, and the French destroyed Su-25 Frogfoot that attacked them, not Alpha jets....dummy. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Msauza: Nigerians are the world no 1 drug peddlers more than any country on the mother earth. Prove it. South Africans are irredeemable drug addicts. If there are no drug users there will be no drug peddlers in your hemp and cocaine enslaved ANC republic . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:53pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I have shown that South Africa is not the worlds Aids, Murder or Rape capital many times.
I have also shown that South Africa is X55 better to live in than Nigeria. You actually showed nothing and proved nothing ! . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:48pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Patchesagain: South Africa is a civilized nation committed to human rights
There is no death penalty, you heathen. That's why South Africans are happy to commit murder. Civilized nation my foot ! America is 100 times more civilized than your shiit hole South Africa, yet we have death sentence in many states of America, you commit murder and government will superglue your azz to electric chair, na high voltage shock go kill y.ou ! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:37pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
DieVluit: Would you rather we chopped his testicles off and hung him by his toes for no less than three weeks?
On what legal grounds is a few years in jail for killing a human being not justice?
Let alone the fact that the selfsame justice system has allowed for the sentence and verdict to be appealed... Okay white boy, let's send one angry Zulu man to chop off your head with a mtchete, he goes to jail and eat free food in free bedroom at governments expense for a few years, after which he walks out into city life again a free man, while your own family keep crying about your death, that will be justice to you inside the grave.....right? Ode, odenson  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:42am On Feb 27, 2015 |
DieVluit: Nigerians are known to be drug peddlers all over the world. There are 1,000 times more American drug peddlars than Nigerians. South Africans too peddle drugs and you have a lot of incurable drug addits who are beyond rehabilitation. Your nation is a hell hole. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:56pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
FighterPilot: That's true, of all Nigerians in SA, almost 80% of them are drug peddlers. Those monkeys sell drugs to our small kids and tell them to experiment with drugs. Just last year one of those monkeys was caught by the mob welling drugs to small children. I could feel for him when he was beaten up until at Bosman where he was forced to walk nake.d on the streets of Pretoria. He was beaten with a plastic cane until the police came. The monkey was saved by the police. If the drug peddlers selling the drugs are monkeys, then the South African drug addicts buying the drugs are baboons . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:54pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
DieVluit: What does it say, if it does not say asylum?
Whenever you are ready. Show me documents from immigration proving Nigerians are getting asylum status in South Africa. We no longer qualify by international law since Abacha died and democracy started in Nigeria. Germany shipped back all Nigerians on asylum of military era, back to Abuja by air because we no longer qualify anywhere in the world. Show me your South African immigration papers granting asylum to Nigerians.....you already pee pee in your boxers because you argued yourself into a trap, juvenile  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:47pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
Msauza: Yet, Nigeria's Spar is South Africa's franchise. That we can bet. Prove it. SPAR is an European company . |