₦airaland Forum

Msauza:
At least, we have a complete local defence industry to invigorate our aging and obsolete weapons and give them a completely new face. We have done it with out centurion tanks, Mirage jets, G5 and 6s, etc. We have a big industry that we do not even rely on the outside world to feed our military scrap chips that they do not need anymore. We fought the bush war under strict arms embargoes with locally produced weapons. Tell us who will maintain your ageing and obsolete weapons?

The most important weapons in South African military are all imported made in Europe, the weapons your defense industry makes are only good for defeating Lesotho and Burundi.

Gripen jet, Hawk jet, Valour Frigate, Heroine Submarine, Olifant/Centurion tanks, Starstreak missile, are all imported
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MikeCZAR:
How much is spent on training a Nigeria soldier and how long does it take?

You'll probably realise why your SF trash and you continue sending men abroad to be trained

2015-2016.
Badger IFV
A-Darter missile.

Nigeria 2015 :

BTR-4E IFV
Su-25 Scorpion Frogfoot
JF-17 Thunder Block II
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MikeCZAR:
It doesn't change the fact you can't deploy aircraft in contested air space.

You can't utilise your fighters during bad weather and the night. Your air force jets to deploy need an airport.

Who was the enemy in Liberia and Sierra Leone? LOL

15 000 for a job that less than 150 SA trained men could do?

Quantity has a certain quality? What's the quality of your men? 1000=1 SA trained soldier.

Brigadier=Captain.

SANDF's panic escape from the claws of Seleka has forever defined your army in world military dictionary
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FighterPilot:
Oops!!! That is just yesterday. Our intelligence was formed way before 1900.

The old apartheid intelligence officers of BOSS have been flushed out, what you have now is a rookie incompetent SSA controlled by blacks employed under BEE program
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FighterPilot:
Even the small babies can beat the Nigerian intelligence hands down.


Theft of weapon system blueprint has been happening all over. America has suffered it many a times without even recovering the chip. In Russia I don't even want to touch it. SA intelligence managed to recover the chip. That is an achievement. Well done!! SA intelligence.

Different spies from around the world are having a good time milking South Africa's cows for free till you run dry
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FighterPilot:
Oh!!! You dont even know that your Igirigi is half South African .

Prove it with sources
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Patchesagain:
What jets did the Ivory coast have to stop you?

Who said anything about Egypt asking you for assistance?

More delusions from the little boy hiding in his pearants basement pretending to be a mercenary accountant

Ivory Coast had the very same Alpha jets that NAF flew by force into their airspace, the Ivorein pilots did not want to challenge NAF air to air and die in a dogfight with Africa's most active air force
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Patchesagain:
Because Chad was a seleka ally and had nothing to fear

South African face saving propaganda
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Patchesagain:
SAAF has over 22 000 hours of jet fuel

Never deployed a Brigade in our history?

WW1: 136,000 (13 Divisions)
WW2: 334,000 (34 Divisions)
Angola: 20 000 (2 Divisions)

lol - you deployed all that and still were unable to defeat the rag tag RUF? top kek!

Fool, SANDF did not exist in World War I and II, or Angolan war. I said SANDF not old Apartheid era SADF....you failed comprehension in school, fool
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FighterPilot:
Thanks, you killed him before I finally put my SANDF boot on his ugly face.

SANDF boots given to you thanks to BEE

MikeCZAR:
Did you know: South Africa didn't have attack helicopter during the boarder war, while Angola and Cuba used many MI-24/35 and MI-17s?


Do you how many of their attack helicopters were downed without their commanders knowing what's killing them?

Ambushed by Impala LIFT.

How?

Radar coverage!

Same way one single NAF Alpha jet will ambush and kill your 10 Rooivalks helicopters in a contested air space.

Most of the Angolan war, SAAF Mirage jets pilots refused to fly because they feared teenage Cuban pilots flying MiG-23 jets. SAAF spent most of its time sitting on the ground while Cuba controlled the air
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FighterPilot:
Do you want me to reveal avalanche of pictures of our modern weapons to you? Proudly made in RSA.

All you have to show as SANDF achievement is Hollywood photos....ZERO war experience....shame on you cowards
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MikeCZAR:
NAF cannot deploy its aircraft in contested air space.

Nigeria right can't deploy a heavy battalion sized outside its boarders.

Out of all African regions, SADC is the only blog that can deploy a brigade sized combat force.

SAAF cannot deploy ANY aircraft in contested airspace, ZERO aviation fuel

SANDF has never deployed a brigade to war zone in it's entire history.

Nigeria deployed 3 full brigades of 15,000 troops, armour, artilery, jet fighters, and warships in Liberia/Sierra Leone all at the same time into war.
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MikeCZAR:
TFDC is a unit of SAAF.

Not our fault that Nigeria has no such capabilities.

Your air force can't even deploy outside your country in a contested air space.

NAF was refused entry into Ivory Coast by President Gbagbo yet we flew Alpha Jets into Abidjan, why did Ivorien air force not sh.oot NAF jets down?

SAAF has NEVER used Gripen Jet or Hawk Jets in any combat since you purchased them about 7 years ago. Reason why Egypt is now inviting Nigeria to come and help them fight ISIS in Libya, the Egyptians acted as if South African military does not even exist.....only a fool will ask military help for a big war from an SANDF that hardly ever leaves their bedrooms and wives, all they do is sit down redundant at home, make a few Hollywood photos, and make themselves judges of other African armies that are busy fighting wars.

Don't worry senior brother Egypt, big brother Nigeria is coming to help you in Libya, the two strongest military in Africa is now clear....

1. Egypt
2. Nigeria

Birds of the same feather flock together....South African military will flock with army of Botswana since they help you hide your Rhinos from poachers
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FighterPilot:
The only person that is mentally sick here is you. Any political party is elected to power based on the promises that it will empower the poor. What is wrong with ANC giving jobs to the previously disadvantaged community? What is wrong if they redress the imbalances of the past. The apartheid government used to treat blacks as slaves and did not even care whether they eat or drink. So, is the anything wrong if the ANC is using redistribution policies to shift the wealth from white to black in order to balance the ratio? ANC does not do it by violence like Mugabe, but rather by affirmative action.

20 years after apartheid ended and Nigerian led OAU forced your white lords to hand over power to you blacks and coloureds, you still depend on ANC government law to force South African companies to employ black m.o.rons as managers and directors with shares for positions you are not mentally or academically qualified to hold.....why?

20 years and you Soweto mumus still refuse to go to school and get good education, your genetically under-developed brains cannot cope with mathematics and sciences, millions of adult able bodied South African men still refuse to work, they want African immigrants to do all the work while Soweto lazy bones play parasite on government free cash and free housing for the lazy, there is plenty of food for lazy men in South Africa.

Tell me how that is the fault of the white man Boer master that gave you power to rule 20 years ago? Does the white man have to unlock your padlocked brains for you?

Government has to force companies to employ incompetent blacks, go and develop professional competence and sit on management chair based on merit, that's all we are saying, don't try to fool us by claiming blacks hold big positions in South African companies because they qualify for it, rather it's because you don't qualify but ANC insists you retaards must be on that job.

See how your reverse gear positioned brains ruined Eskom power systems and turned South Africa into the top candle burning nation in Africa...fools and domingos, parasites and liabilities to the nation !
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Patchesagain:
Chad has proven to be a better fighting force

.....than SANDF Elite Paratroopers and Special Forces who ran away with Sprikbok speedometer while Chadian army stayed behind confidently
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Henry120:
Spy Cables expose S Africa's alarming security failings
Secret documents reveal an array of security lapses and flaws within South African government and intelligence.
Will Jordan | 24 Feb 2015 18:39 GMT | Spy Cables, South Africa
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South African government and security agencies have left secrets exposed at every level and foreign spies have access to all areas of government, according to Intelligence documents obtained by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit.
A secret security assessment by South African intelligence says foreign espionage is booming, with more than 140 foreign spies estimated to be operating in South Africa - and that the South African state is doing a poor job of protecting itself.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-expose-south-africa-alarming-security-failings-guardian-ssa-150224162919994.html



Yeah, it's funny........ keep laughing, while 140 spy agencies have un-restricted access to the government of south-africa at all levels.

Many palm wine tappers are tapping their wine to drink while Pretoria intelligence service sleeps and snores
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Msauza:
Better than being beaten by rag tag BH spies.

Nigerian army and air force is d.emolishing Boko Haram like no man business today as we speak this very moment...

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

FighterPilot:
Evidence cannot as always given in pics. Why do I say this is because when your army is chased around and BH show them in videos, they dismiss it as propaganda. So, how does it become important?

BH Gwoza video is propaganda because the same faces that acted drama as Nigerian soldiers running from Bokos, were also shown few minutes later in the same video rejoicing with Boko Haram fighters inside their vehicles shouting Allah Akbar !

We Nigerians are intelligent discerners of what evidence or claim is shown to us, but you South Africans are so m.entally under-developed you depend on ANC law to force companies to employ you under BEE for jobs your weak brains cannot handle
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FighterPilot:
Your request is very childish.

Nope, my request has been granted by other armies, like this....

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

We don't want rumours and propaganda from Chad on this forum, show us proof !
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FighterPilot:
Chad soldiers claim the lives of over 200 militants all in one day. What a magnificent job attained by the noble and brave soldiers of Mr Idriss Derby. Nigeria beware Chad will sweep you one day.


http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN0LT0IT20150225

Show us photo of Boko Haram killed by Chad in that city and the Boko weapons/vehicles they captured.

Nigeria has been proving it's own military achievements with photos and videos including armed drones plus helicopter gunship kills.

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

Chadian air force last week jet bombed and massacred 30 innocent civilians inside Niger Republique at a funeral, even the dead body inside the coffin was killed a second time.

If Chad fights Nigeria, they will actually be bombing their own army while we watch and laugh

Well, at least Chad has more battle experience than South African military, they stayed behind in C.A.R Bangui after SANDF ran away. Seleka rebels had no courage to attack Chad, but they attacked the weaker South African cowards, Seleka simply ranked SANDF below Chadian ragtag army that has no bullet proof vest
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TempyPusher:
You have no argument - this is DieVluit.

See what the man below did at Denel.

ANC government forces ALL South African companies controlled by white-men to employ black South Africans who have ZERO experience and also ZERO entrepreneural skills into management and board positions under a law called BEE....Black Economic Empowerment, it forces ALL affected South African companies against their wish to employ incompetent and half-brained Soweto retaarded black workers into big positions and pay them fat salaries which has killed the profitability of many South African companies and some have collapsed.

I have a South African man here with me now who tells me all the secrets of your rotten ANC prison yard, you think you can fool us with manipulated internet illustrations?

BEE....Black Economic Empowerment law of ANC government South Africa = Black Employment to jobs they don't qualify for....Employed by force of new ANC law.....in a normal professionally competitive aptitude test like GMAT/GRE and oral interview by HR recruitment experts like Accenture, ALL SOUTH AFRICAN BLACKS WILL FAIL THE STANDARD UNBIASED EMPLOYMENT TEST !

It is called the Fool's Gold

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576655-black-economic-empowerment-has-not-worked-well-nor-will-it-end-soon-fools-gold

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patches689:
@Henry120

Arent you man enough to apologize?

@patches689

Did you apologize for saying Nigeria has no T-72 tanks last year despite photos shown to you?

Did you apologize for editing wikipedia and fraudulently deleting war history to mislead this forum?
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andrewza:
I though you left.

Yes, that's why I said "I no wan talk".....means I want to be silent.

The post I replied to was too much for me to resist, I had to do a big laughter.

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Nigerian Armed Forces, not foreign troops, doing 90% of the fighting against Boko Haram - Borno State Governor

http://leadership.ng/news/413611/nigerian-troops-responsible-for-liberation-of-seized-towns-shettima

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html


TRUTH COMES OUT FINALLY FROM AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE ! [/size]
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Dem no sabi how far. Even Naija sef get straw inside dem Coke bottle. I don suck from that straw before. #coded

[size=16pt] I no wan talk, but how I go fit control dis laughter make my belly no burst....Bwahahaha
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saengine:
You dont even have to annouce such. Just quietly leave if you want. You dont owe anyone anything. This forum, however stupid it is, will carry on with or without you.

1. Thanks for admitting South Africans have made this forum silly

2. I am not the only one complaining about how you Southies have devalued this thread/forum this year 2015, go back pages and see other people complaining and leaving or cutting down their time input to very little.

3. Year 2012-2014 researchers were visiting this forum to gather facts and figures. Now 2015 South Africans see nothing wrong in turning it into a silly forum. Shows how little value your Soweto brain places on education and information.

4. Yes, I will go off and on this forum, won't invest my time in silly discussions with South Africans struck down by inferiority complex everytime they debate with Nigerians who liberated them from the Boer white-masters prison yard, the whites never wanted to hand over South Africa's greatness to you because they know everything you black Sowetans touch becomes silly eventually
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patches689:
Nigeria does not have most of those weapons.

- t72 = trash
- BTR4 - badger is better
- RM-70 MRLS - you dont have it
- BVP-1 - you dont have it
- CH-3 - you dont have it
- MRAPS - wow, MRAPS what a game changer (not)
- Alpha jets - not a gripen
- Puma - not armed
- Gazelle - you have one
- Ships - lightly armed police boats
- Helicopters - inlfated numbers and obsolete airframes impress no one

[size=16pt]This forum is not worth the time, look at a South African's comment above
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patches689:
Why cant you post a single citation to prove your numbers?

I have seen a few photos and I estimate your numbers to be around 5

Are you blind? I just posted the weblink and you are still asking the same foolish question, thou d.ullard of Gauteng society

The source above quoted 58 units of T-72 tanks landed in Nigeria from Czech. Add Ukrainian sales and the 3rd country.

"Vile islamist barbarians from the Boko Haram sect will have their lives get a bit harder soon. Czech company Excalibur Group, led by a former armorer Pavel Strnad, managed to acquire as many as 58 T-72 tanks (T-72M1 variant) from Hungary to sell them – with other heavy military equipment – to the army of Nigeria, locked in a savage conflict with the brutal sect."


http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

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patches689:
A Badger with SANDF plates

On a testing ground, the driver inside it is a civilian with no uniform

No single Badger in SANDF service, show us your soldiers using them or posing with them
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Msauza:
Yet we killed over 600 of those child soldiers until they cried for their mommies.

[size=16pt]#Show Us One Single Dead Seleka Killed By SANDF...Like this below...[/size]
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Patchesagain:
First, you have less than 26 T-72's

First you said last year that Nigeria has NO SINGLE T-72 tank, now you say we have less than 26 units....why did you change your foolish mind ?

Secondly, Nigeria is proved to have over 100 units of T-72 tanks already in service, and when Ukraine delivers the delayed units, we will have about 200 units of T-72 tanks.

Thirdly, we have T-72 tanks from 3 different countries, the new batch delivery from Czech republic alone was 58 units of T-72 tanks.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/01/czechs-sell-tanks-to-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram/

SANDF has only 26 units of modernized refurbished re-welded repainted Olifant tanks with fairly good passive armour, all the rest of your Olifant tanks are ancient versions with ordinary RHA armour that Nigerian T-72 tanks will eat for breakfast with 125mm gun
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