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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:35pm On Mar 03, 2015
Patchesagain:
How is the $2 billion released from your government different from allocations made by our minister of defence?

How could you contradict yourself so hard?

SANDF is not broke - the budget has gone up - is not retrenching soldiers (it just recruited 4000 college graduates)

It has continued with arms aquisitions - Badger IFV, 6 new vessels, new state-of-the-art heavyweight torpedoes, new patrol aircraft for the 2015/2016 financial year, A-darter production, GBADS Phase 3, Marlin Development, upgrades to Rooikat and G6 etc etc etc

Augustus, I demand that you stop trolling this thread and pulling down standards with troll posts
Defence expenditure posts are trolling comments on a military thread/forum? You must be very sick!

Nigeria's $2 Billion new weapons funs is VERY VERY VERY different from the South African minister of defence's cashless fund allocation papers.

President Jonathan's $2 Billion is NOT part of defence budget, it is a special fund ONLY for buying new weapons/equipment like jet fighters, combat helicopters, missiles, tanks etc.....it is different and separate from Nigeria's yearly $6 billion ministry of defence budget.....that is the kind of budget your defence minister is struggling to spend from.....basic defence budget that will be swallowed up by the over-paid lazy sleep at home SANDF parasite soldiers who avoid going to war in hot zones like C.A.R Bangui where Seleka rebels are waiting to slaughter SANDF
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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Kukawa,geri and gujba in yobe state have been liberated by nigerian troops,cordon and search operations are still ongoing.

[Source: DHQ]
[size=20pt]90 % of all land combat....Nigerian army !

99.99% of all air combat....Nigerian air force

We own this war, we control this war, we order Chad, Niger and Cameroon around on border lines !

90 % on land...99.99 % in air, giant slice belongs to Nigeria

We rule Africa....Giant Nigeria

We will soon answer the call to help mighty Egypt in Libya to delete ISIS !

We are Nigeria....Giant of Africa...no controversy !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:59pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
Good. Now take that delusion out of your head of thinking any JF-17 will ever fire a BVRAAM at us before we a fully equiped with world class short and long range missiles.
Thanks for stylishly admitting South Africa is afraid of NAF buying JF-17 Thunder especially if a BVR missile comes with it, you go peepee for ya shokoto and pata gringrin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:20pm On Mar 02, 2015
rka1:
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/169745-boko-haram-attacks-island-on-niger-side-of-lake-chad

This is why we need our neighbours to be strong and block off BH.
Please oga mi, make I copy this your web link save am for my folder, I go need am one day like dat.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:16pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
Conclusion: NAF has no single JF-17 in service
I never disputed that. I always said NAF and SAAF are stuck with short range missiles with equal air to air power
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
saengine:
http://www.janes.com/article/43439/marlin-nears-first-test-aad143

19 September 2014

https://www.janes.com/images/assets/439/43439/Marlin-nears-first-test-_AAD143_.jpg

WHO DO YOU THINK WILL GET A WORLD CLASS BVRAAM 1ST? We showed the world we develop world class high tech products with A Darter, you think this will be any different?

Denel Dynamics expects to conduct the first flight test of its Marlin 100km radar-guided anti-air missile early next year. The first launch will be conducted from the ground at Overberg Test Range, and will be a ballistic test to check out the missile’s basic flight systems.Successful ballistic tests should lead to programmed tests, in which the missile’s midcourse guidance and flight control systems are used to control the missile’s flightpath.

The final stage of trials will be closed-loop fully guided tests, with the missile’s seeker providing control inputs to the guidance section. In the meantime, Denel Dynamics will conduct ground testing and captive air testing of the latest version of seeker.

What is now known as Marlin has been a Denel Dynamics project to develop an active radar missile for around 10 years. The missile has evolved into one that is capable of satisfying land, sea and air applications, and its design has been carefully crafted to meet the requirements of surface and air launch. It employs a degree of modularity that allows it to incorporate elements from the successful A-Darter and Umkhonto programmes, such as the motor technology and fuze. The missile relies on the same motor for all its applications, negating the need to develop.

During the development of the weapon, the seeker has undergone an evolution to take account of technological advances. For instance, the original functions of five digital signal processing cards have been compressed to fit on one card, in turn freeing significant capacity for additional processing.This has allowed the seeker to be made capable of simultaneous multi-target tracking. Other benefits are the ability of four channels to be processed in parallel, rather than sequentially. An operational result is the increase in electronic counter-countermeasures performance, the seeker being able to discriminate between chaff, jamming and the real target.

Marlin is being developed by Denel Dynamics as a technology demonstration programme to a Department of Defence/Armscor contract. It was unveiled at the LAAD show in Rio de Janeiro last year, and Brazil is being courted as a likely partner.
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South Africa may, likely, planning to, trying to....Blah Blah Blah.

Do you know what Nigeria too is planning? AWACS aircraft! Just waiting to confirm details from inside sources.

Today, SAAF has NO single A-Darter and MARLIN missile does NOT even exist.

Case closed[/size]
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
A Darter is a self defence missile to defend against any useless crap you throw at us.
South Africans boasting about A-Darter missile with short range 22 km, tiny Eritrea and poor Sudan is laughing at you with their long range BVR missiles gringringrin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
Um...Nigeria has no JF-17 jet. You are a cocaine fuelled crack addict if you believe that Nigeria will purchase jets, train pilots on all systems and weapons, and be have even 5% of a fully trained squadron by this time next year. As opposed to A Darter which is being produced this year, ready for the SAAF.

A Darter is a self defence missile to defend against any useless crap you throw at us.
CONCLUSION : SAAF has NO SINGLE A-Darter in service
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:55pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Massive IR signature trail, one of causes being its exhaust system. Unlike the Rooivalk which washes its exhaust gases.

Massive logistics.
Nigeria and Russia now own new Hind E versions with reduced IR signature from the exhaust. Hind E has changed the Hind into a far better helicopter than Rooivalk will ever be.

Multirole aircraft are always superior to single role aircraft

Hinds are multirole, Rooivalk is a single role waste of money....$40 million fvcking dollars, price of Su-30 Flanker jet !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:36pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
How do you expect people on this forum to know which OPV the SA Navy will purchase when the tender process ends July, followed by test and evaluation phase? Are you mad?
You mean @DeVluit is mäd because he expects @Henry to know which of the two new Cobra APC types Nigeria bought when the photos have not been revealed
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:32pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Look at the Hal Light attack helicopter, Apache, Tiger and A129 attack helicopters landing gears.

It absorbs shock during unintended or rough landings.

You think designing and fielding an attack helicopter takes 3 days, Look at similar projects with rich countries like the Tiger attack helicopter.

Air frame obsolete? The Hind E uses the same air frame from the 70s.
Modern Hind wheels are now retractable, fool.

Your Rooivalk fixed wheels will break of by force in a crash land.

A-129 is a 1980 design, so you can compare your obsolete Rooivalk....birds of same feather flock together.


Apache landing gear is underbelly NOT glued to wing area airframe....open your eyes...don't be like the 3-blind-mice

Rooivalk helicopter airframe is obsolete design, alone has scared every potential customer....NOBODY IS GONNA FVCKING BUY YA FVCKING OLD ROOIVALK TURKEY tonguetonguetonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:16pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
Soon to be shot down by top of the range, 5th generation A Darter AAM.
SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:08pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
So in everything you've said you have been unable to say exactly what about Rooivalk is obsolete....exept to say "look at the tyres". It brings me to the conclusion that you dont know what obsolete means. You have been unable to show how Mi-35 is better than Rooivalk, making Rooivalk obsolete. Then you mention avionics....shame im sure somewhere in your head you think Rooivalk uses 1980's avionics. Keep embarrassing yourself....I couldnt care less.
I said the airframe design is obsolete and I stand by it, a 20 year old design is obsolete today. Tell me a Toyota Camry 1995 model is a modern design.

I posted photos of both Rooivalk and modern version of Hind for you to compare, I said look at the tyres/landing gear, but as a life-time member of the 3-blind-mice society of South Africa, you failed to see that the obsolete Rooivalks tyres hang outside permanently like an old horses' dîck, while the modern Hinds tyres are invisible as a retractable landing gear.

You are Grand Patron of the 3-blind-mice society with life-long permanent membership grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:47pm On Mar 02, 2015
andrewza:

Even the UN thinks the hind is better
and Ukraine is plaining on joining the list of countries that want the Hines to be upgraded with south African systems developed for rooivalk.
Thanks for quoting that United Nations say the Hind is better.

Ukraine flies older generation Hinds , but Nigeria flies new generation 2014 Hind E versions with the most modern and sophisticated Russian avionics
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:27pm On Mar 02, 2015
Patchesagain:
Show us the money for the JF-17!!

#YourOwnArgumentKillsYou
$2 billion dollars was released by Nigerian president 6 months ago specially for new weapons purchase only, and after the release, NAF announced it will buy JF-17 Thunder.

No argument needed!

SANDF is reported broke and will soon retrench soldiers en-mass, plus self imposed embargo on new weapons purchases.

Now go jump into river orange with a bag of Dangote cement strapped to your back tonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:20pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:
You are wrong, so consider yourself corrected. We never say "might".
You were here when Southies posted 3 different OPV options for SAN to buy, they confessed not sure which on your broke navy may buy....SANDF is broke.

You envy Nigeria's new purchases especially our missile armed drones that South Africa will not have tonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:
Eskom's Medupe power station unit 6 has been successfully synchronised, a huge relief for SA power crisis. It seems our problem will be solved sooner than expected.
15 million South Africans have never seen one electric light bulb in their wretched lives.

35 million South Africans survive on candles, thanks to ESKOM daily punishment of load shedding tonguetongue

Nothing will change for many years to come, NYSC...Now Your Suffering Continues....
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:46pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:
[size=13]Chad has helped Nigeria to temporarily defeat Boko Haram, now you don't even see their contribution anymore. They will pull out from you and you will have a hard time again controlling BH.

The role that they played by flushing out terrorists on your land immensely contributed on BH imaginary final defeat. However, we all know that BH is not yet defeated, they are simply lying low and will erupt once your muscles grow bigger and start to notice the role played by other forces as worthless.

Once you start claiming all their glory to yourself by telling the world that you defeated BH all alone without help from anyone, they will pull out and leave you all alone with BH. That's where BH will make you Barbecue for the day. You know well that you can't defeat BH all alone.[/size]
[size=20pt] FINAL AUTHORITY, RULER OF THE BATTLE ZONE SPEAKS :

Nigerian Armed Forces, not foreign troops, doing 90% of the fighting against Boko Haram - Source : Borno State Governor......


http://leadership.ng/news/413611/nigerian-troops-responsible-for-liberation-of-seized-towns-shettima

CASE CLOSED tonguetongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:
The art of spin doctoring: call crying for help "ordering".

Yet, Chad freed towns inside Nigeria's borders.
One town Gamboru, that`s where Chad captured, an empty village with no civilians inside it, and the operation ended in a disater for the incompetent Chadian army of 2,000 troops, almost 4 battalions against a few hundred Bokos who outsmarted the whole 2,000 force Chadian army with Boko Haram tactical maneuver, dribbled the Chadians and entered Cameroon`s Fotokol town that President Biya begged Chad to protect, the Bokos slaughtered 100 and wounded 500 innocent Cameroonian civilains while Chadian army was busy announcing it had freed a Nigerian town and was making You-Tube videos for CNN and Reuters news.....while the Cameroonians under it`s protection were being massacred....600 bleeding Cameroonian women and children know that Chad is a military failure in Nigerian border area grin grin grin

Chad was beaten by Boko Haram in Gamboru to Fotokol

20 Chadian soldiers killed

600 Cameroonian innocent civilians bleeding to death

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/boko-haram-kills-civilians-attacks-cameroon-border-nigeria-fotokol#img-1

All thanks to the failed Chadian rag tag army with ZERO knowledge of overall battle space combat strategy. grin grin grin

They are failures like your SANDF....birds of the same feather flock together, both you and them were in Bangui together when Seleka rebel force was reigning supreme....a tale of two foolish armies grin grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:56pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:
NAF is a dead man walking. No forth generation fighters nothing.
NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties in less than one year, dead air forces or dead men don`t fly aircraft !

NAF JF-17 Thunder 4th generation jet fighter is on the way....25 to 40 units
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:55pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:
Wait, what nigerian helicopters?
NAF Mi-35M Hind E 2014 model, the latest in Russian air force. Get it ?

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:49pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:
Please explain how the design is obsolete. I dare you. Tell us what design elements Rooivalk has that are "obsolete". And i presume these same design elements WILL NOT be found in any Nigerian helicopters. Be a man....explain yourself....i dare you.
Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=20pt]How Nigerian army ordered Chad, Niger, Cameroon, to protect their own borders....

.....and save themselves from Boko Haram escapees, or be invaded by fleeing Boko Haram !
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Nigeria's Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Alex Badeh made a detailed disclosure even as he noted that Nigeria was sending “a force of 5000 military personnel while Chad is sending a force of another 2500 personnel totalling 7, 500 troops for the MNJTF joint border forces. Cameroon too is contributing troops but I cannot tell you the number for now, and we also have an MOU with Niger. They will block their own side so that the Boko Haram or the enemies won’t have the opportunity to run into Niger to cause havoc for them”.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/boko-haram-why-military-offensive-is-yielding-results-dasuki/#sthash.eFBdm8Kh.dpuf


Chad, Niger Republic, and Cameroon are NOT saving or helping Nigeria, they are saving their own country from invasion by fleeing Boko Haram who are now running across land borders and even drowning in Lake Chad as they run away like cowards fleeing from the anger of the Nigerian army's final offensive.

Shame on Nigeria's enemies....including South Africans who ran away from Seleka war in Bangui tongue tongue tongue[/size]


PHOTOS: NIGERIAN SOLDIERS SET BOKO HARAM ON FIRE AS WE MARCH FORWARD AND BOKO HARAM FLEES LIKE COWARDS !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:46am On Mar 02, 2015
jln115:
Alpha xh-1
Rooivalk is ugly, even the final prototype till production variant are both very ugly.

Rooivalk design is TOTALLY OBSOLETE tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:12pm On Feb 28, 2015
Msauza:
All that started with a paper dummy!! .
South African defence purchases have been on paper for many years now like project Biro navy plan, all paper, no money, no OPV grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:10pm On Feb 28, 2015
charlos14:
I was just glancing through wikipedia about the Patria AFV when I saw that the self built Badger of SA was a licensed built variant of the Patria just as the rosomak!

#Shocked to my bones
You thought Badger was originally a South African product?

Southies are frauds, they even claim Benz and BMW are South African brands grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:07pm On Feb 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
You complained so hard about off topic posting - yet you are the main culprit

I am highlighting your hypocrisy

You started it, I complained, you continued it....Your own off topic posts are all over this thread, like this...


Patchesagain:
Did you read the artical?

They lost money because Dangote mills is not a profitable enterprise

Not only that, the dangote mills has been losing money like no other business. It has already made a loss of 5 billion naiara already this year.
http://richnigerianpharmacists.com/south-african-tiger-brand-loses-82-billion-to-dangote-business-lessons/

How is a company that is in the process of bottoming out rapeing our economy?

I thought you were an accountant.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Feb 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
South Africa is aquiring new torpedoes

DM2A4 Seehecht

- completely immune to countermeasures
- 50km range
- 90kph speed
Name the torpedoes, name the exporter and show us proof of a signed sales contract.

A400M Airbus story is now SANDF's new way of life, boast first and cancel purchase later for lack of funds grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:01pm On Feb 28, 2015
Patchesagain:
Did you read the artical?

They lost money because Dangote mills is not a profitable enterprise

Not only that, the dangote mills has been losing money like no other business. It has already made a loss of 5 billion naiara already this year.
http://richnigerianpharmacists.com/south-african-tiger-brand-loses-82-billion-to-dangote-business-lessons/

How is a company that is in the process of bottoming out rapeing our economy?

I thought you were an accountant.
Bwahahaha grin grin

The story is very clear and simple English language, read the topic again....

SOUTH AFRICAN TIGER BRAND LOSES $82 MILLION TO DANGOTE – BUSINESS LESSONS

That is what accountants call over-valuation on merger/acquisition.

Dangote was smart, he over-valued his Dangote mills and made your M.oronic South African businessmen with ZERO mathematical thinking, to pay excess, Dangote was overpaid by you Dumbazz Domingo South Africans to the tune of over ONE BILLION RANDS CASH....Dangote is R.aping South African economy because Nigerians are more intelligent that your ANC Domingo nation of mumus tongue tongue
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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust:
[size=13pt]African Giant in action....Nigerian Army...Advancing, Mine clearing, Setting Boko Haram on fire ![/size]

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:34am On Feb 28, 2015
saengine:
U want us to post the bank statements and invoices? Are you mentally well? Are you sick? SANDF is getting that equipment, with a defence satellite currently oribiting.....no one cares if you believe it or not. Its a fact. A400 was cancelled because of project delays and the price doubled. Again...go cry in your sad corner.

Show us the bank invoice of Nigerian purchase of J-17. Show us the EFT transfer. Show us the bank stamp. You see how ridiculous your demands are??
This is Nigeria's weapons money in action, not some 16 page paper budget of funds to pay salaries of soldiers and buy SANDF HIV drugs for your half dead 30 battalions of soldiers who will die before enemy even shoots them.

Cash buys weapons, not PDF files and paper stories of wish list...

http://allafrica.com/stories/201410230300.html

http://www.punchng.com/news/military-takes-delivery-of-two-jets-loaded-with-weapons/
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