Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:08pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
patches689: lol, is this your comback?
Tell us, how do reporters report? Is it maybe... sources? Aljazeera is 5,000 km away and using an illiterate fisherman as news source. Reuters had a journalist inside Bangui city as news source to prove SANDF lost 50 soldiers to Seleka and ran away like Olympic racing horses to the airport for next available flight to Pretoria after begging French army for protection . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:02pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Yet many of them were killed in the run. Israeli army does not run away from bandits, that would make a world news headlines. Israeli army does not face attack by hundreds of insurgents hitting a small remote FOB, what they face is rocket firing across borders by Hamas. No soldier can fight without bullets, he has to withdraw. The Israeli soldiers who were not smart enough to withdraw when heavily outnumbered and running out of ammunition got captured by Egyptian army in their last Arab-Israeli war. Break army tactical rules, suffer death or captivity. The soldiers in Baga FOB were well trained in combat tactical rules, so they knew when to withdraw as ammunition finished. If they are cowards as you guys wrongly say, they won't stand and fight for 7 hours until last bullet . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:54pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Nah!! they attacked our men on their way back from the airport. Source please, citation please. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:53pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:39pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Nah!!! it were only Nigerian soldiers who were bitterly defeated by rag tag bandits and perished as reported by various international news.
SANDF never refused to fight Seleka, we acted within the confines of military command. We respect our parliament.
SANDF cannot go back to retake CAR, we have our free SA which is not under control of no rebels or terrorists [size=16pt] Illiterate Rhino Poachers permanently control the whole of Kruger park including reserve lands owned by SANDF itself    [/size] . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:34pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
patches689: the loss of 13 men is a slaughter?
fact is we held our base over 2000km from South African soil
fact is you lost your base INSIDE OF NIGERIA Base was on Chadian side of the border and Chad has many Boko Haram camps on their territory . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:29pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
DieVluit: "Key base", says the article. FOB says the owners of the base. Some Journalists can call an APC a tank....you are du.mb like thm. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:27pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
patches689: Yes, that is the basic protection.
It can be up-armored as needed. Because of its modular design you simply undo some nuts, replace the plate and do them up again. Same way BTR-4 is modular and can be up-armoured, so what? . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:20pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: That's what you think and it is not so. Baga base had weapons like any other military base, or don't you keep your weapons in bases anymore? Bags is an FOB, not a standard army base where you find Tanks in NE. If Baga had one T-72, Boko Haram won't come there, they picked on a small Forward Operating Base that was lightly armed and too far away for quick reinforcement. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:15pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: You are lying, it is reported all over the news that Boko haram killed hundreds of your soldiers and that some of your soldiers managed to flee/escape. Boko Haram killed hundreds of Nigerian soldiers in Baga? Show neutral source to prove that. Okay, Seleka killed 100 SANDF soldiers in Bangui . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
patches689: Boko Haram have failed?
The facts tell a different story - their caliphate grows by the day Sorry your map of Boko caliphate is last year long outdated. I see towns occupied by Nigerian army on your fake map. Pull another one  . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:53pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: BH is also fighting with inexperienced bandits who seem to always overpower your well experienced soldiers. Always? How many times has Nigerian soldiers defeated Boko Harem in battle and we see dead bodies to prove it? You see only the events you personally choose to see. Who cares anyway? Book Haram will soon abandon that town when T-72 appears. Boko Haran has failed to do what ISIS did. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:49pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Do you mean 13 men which we lost on the ambush as compared to hundreds which which you lose right inside your country in your base? Ambush? In which bush? Seleka attacked a well secured and cement wall fenced SANDF base. See how you change facts, no wonder you like Aljazeera news. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:46pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
DieVluit: Reports say that the battle lasted a WHOLE 16 hours. Sadly for the nigerian military, they came short and had to make a run for it. 16 hours? Where? 5am -12noon = 7 hours, and battlefield was across lake chad. Your comment is garbage |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:42pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Who knows that BH has already captured some T-72s in the base. How will they capture a T-72 that has armour they cannot penetrate? T-72 does not need to shoot Boko Haram, just drive the tank over the Toyota vehicles and crush it. You don't use your brain, that's your weakness. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:30pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
GreenandGold: Where were you F-7s? T-72s? Hinds? Your ISTAR?
Once again Boko Haram fishermen banged your troops d0ggystyle [/b] Bwahaha  Who cares? Book Haram will soon see T-72 tanks and run away as usual, who cares about rag tag men who cannot hold towns they captured once they see Nigerian T-72 appear . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:26pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
GreenandGold: []It doesn't change the fact that your marathon soldiers were running to the closest escape route [] [size=16pt] It's good military training as they retreated when ammunition finished and retreat , yes, retreat back to a bigger base and wait to be rearmed, reloaded, and reinforced. Alive to go back and retake the base, good intelligent soldiers, Israeli army would have done the same thing [/size] |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:21pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Aljazeera is unbiased and objective. Prove it . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:15pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Bwahahahahahahahahahahabaah………… Are you trying your luck Chief?
Boko Haram seizes Nigerian army base Last updated: 19 hours ago Scores of troops killed in raid by fighters using military vehicles in Baga after about 40 young males were kidnapped. Boko Haram fighters have overrun an army base in the remote northeast Nigerian town of Baga , killing scores of soldiers in the attack, security sources have said . Baga is known for hosting the headquarters of a multinational force comprising troops from Niger , Nigeria , Chad and Cameroon, although only Nigerian troops are actually stationed there.
What an embarrassing defeat!!!
http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20151421315330265 Bwahahaha  Islamic Aljazeera report , how did they get details of soldiers deployed inside a multinational military base? Aljazeera is 5,000 km away from West Africa, the other source you posted says Aljazeera gets reports from a illiterate fisherman  A fisherman who has never been to school is god enough as source for Aljazeera and fellow dumbo South Africans, birds of the same feather  patches689: And only Nigerian troops were present According to Aljazeera officials located 5,000 km away from the multinational troops base....Aljazeera gets unpublished military deployment nformation by consulting a spiritual oracle?  . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:04pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: Your soldiers were battered inside their own camp by just mere rag tag bandits. What a defeat!! Multi-national army of Chad, Niger Republique, Nigeria and Cameroon combined. Base said to be on Chadian border, remote area to far for quick reinforcement, soldiers fought 7 hours and finished all ammunition, they withdrew when they had np ammunition remaining. Good soldiers, they fought gallantly, no surrender and none captured. Good job by a lightly armed multinational army. Sure they will go back and retake the town, not like SANDF that refused to go back and fight Seleka, that's the difference between the West African spirit and the South African spirit of cowards . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:49pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
mzilakazi: RELIGIOUS TERROR Boko Haram fighters overpower multinational force in attack at Nigeria-Chad border BAUCHI, Nigeria – Boko Haram Islamic extremists have overpowered a multinational military force and seized its key base on Nigeria's border with Chad, according to residents who took to canoes to escape. Scores of soldiers and civilians were killed, while others drowned in Lake Chad, Nigerians taking refuge in a Chadian village said in cell phone calls Sunday night. They said insurgents fired rocket-propelled grenades and automatic assault rifles and hurled explosives. "They came in their hundreds driving several Hilux patrol vehicles, trucks and some were on motorcycles and immediately began to throw explosives and bombs," fisherman Audu Labbo told The Associated Press. He and others reached by phone Sunday night said the troops from Nigeria and its neighbors Chad, Cameroon and Niger fought on Saturday until they ran out of ammunition. Details on the attack were slow getting out of the remote area. Some soldiers removed their uniforms and threw away their rifles, Labbo said. A senior security officer in Maiduguri, the capital of Borno state, confirmed that the military base at Baga is under the control of the insurgents. He said the multinational force fled because it received no reinforcements despite holding out for several hours. The officer spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to give information to reporters. There are fears the extremists could use Baga as a base to attack Maiduguri, some 125 miles to the southwest. Labbo said the insurgents' bombs and grenades set aflame several buildings that burned to the ground -- businesses, government offices, homes and part of the military base. Boko Haram has been regionalizing the conflict with recent attacks on Chadian villages and a military base. Thousands of people have died and some 1.6 million have been driven from their homes in the 5-year-old Islamic extremist uprising.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/05/boko-haram-fighters-overpower-multinational-force-in-attack-at-nigeria-chad/
One thing that Nigerian soldiers are nototious about is removing the uniform and throw away rifles. Seems that even their authorities are comfortable with that kind of reckless behavior by soldiers. Your own source proves you wrong, source says its a multinational force of mixed soldiers of Chad, Niger Republique, Nigeria, Cameroon. So how did you know it was Nigerian soldiers among four national armies, that removed uniform and ran away? Proof please, mumu dumbass, give us proof ? . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 4:07am On Jan 05, 2015 |
Henry120: It's a basic BTR-3. This second photo shows a line of many BTR-3s in parking lot, no guns, no armament, are they new ones just purchased? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 4:04am On Jan 05, 2015 |
stillchris: looks like a BTR-3, the recovery vehicle version. Winch for tow should be huge and visible at the back for ARV, what's that 'gun' in the front? I still don't get it. Sources say Nigeria did not buy any BTR-3 ARV version. We still need an ID. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:38am On Jan 05, 2015*. Modified: 4:11am On Jan 05, 2015 |
Centrifude: "agaugust You Disgusting Fraudster" that paragraph you quoted is from beegeagle-blog and not from the Livejournal link you posted, you posted an opinion piece and passed it off as something else, that Livejournal Article is not even in English. You took a paragraph from Beegeagle that supported your argument and posted a completely different link as your source. Well then here another Paragraph from Beegeagle you failed to mention. "As the thread title conveyed in its precise wording, the Super Hind upgrades were undertaken by ‘a South African firm’. It does not follow that the upgradation took place in South Africa.
What is almost certain is that vendor probably have a twinning arrangement with ATE of South Africa whereby their upgrade packages are jointly marketed while *the work gets done by ATE personnel*, be those internationals or locals. Ukraine is a busier arms market than South Africa is." . . .Plus that Livejournal Article makes a lot of reference to A.T.E, Paramount and South African Weapon systems they even use the A.T.E brochure to describe the features of the new Aircraft, which means it is South African tech installed by a South African company in a Foreign Country. Lol Soon Nigeria will probably be buying Ingwe Missiles directly from S.A or through Ukraine. No official proof Ukraine has joint venture with South Africa, where is your official contract source for the info? You say Nigeria will probably buy Ingwe missile from South Africa, what official procurement source ? Nigeria has 10 Russian Mi-35 that use cheaper Russian missiles, so why should Nigeria buy more expensive South African missiles for 2 Ukranian Hinds? Nigeria and South Africa already have an arms trade dispute of $15 million, so why should we leave Russia that has offered us $1 Billion credit line for weapons and come to a fraudulent South Africa for missiles? Back to your foolish allegation, I got the weblink from Beegeagle, but the source/story is Ukranian and your poor South African thinking did not tell you that lap tops have automatic translator to give me the story in English from Ukranian language. Learn to use language translators when you browse internet http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1121573.html. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:12pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The Badger has layered modular armour. Nope, credible sources say only welded steel armour, giving Badger protection only against small arms carried by infantry hands. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:10pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
GreenandGold: Yet we produce 10 times the electricity Yet 33% of your population have NEVER see an electric light bulb since they were born. How far did your white masters wreck y.ou blacks? . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:04pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: The Badger has layered modular armour. Nope, only steel armour welded by your local welders in Soweto backyard....Read source proof of Bad-ger's Bad armour below... .
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:02pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: No, it won't. Maybe a high velocity cannon not a machine gun.
A RPG even failed. RPG failed against Poland's Rosomak extra armoured and caged version NOT SANDF Bagder that has not entered service talk less of war zone. Bullets from 12.7mm Boko Haram machine guns will defeat the Badger IFV by killing the soldiers and driver inside it .
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:58pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
GreenandGold: Yet 3 RPG rockets fired by Taliban failed to penetrate that armor.
A simple 1kg of TNT planted by BH would blow your BTR with all your poorly paid troops to a million pieces[ Nope, BTR-4 has ground clearance to save it from IED. It's not an MRAP, but 1kg TNT will fail against a BTR-4 due to armour underneath. Bager IFV has NO combat experience, it was Poland's Rosomak version of Patria IFV and it was extra armoured Rosomak also shielded with cage protection. Badger is NOT Rosomak, use your head man ! Bad-ger Bad IFV armour is only bullet resistant, NOT RPG resistant , fact ! PHOTO ROSOMAK IFV OF POLAND'S ARMY WITH EXTRA ARMOUR AND CAGE TO RESIST RPG IN AFGHANISTAN .
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:53pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: And no, machine gun fire won't penetrate the Badger. 12.7mm Browning or other machine guns will cut random holes into the Bad design Bad-ger IFV and kill SANDF soldiers inside it. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:49pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
GreenandGold: Military-Today is a blog?
LOSER Comparing and ranking combat helicopters is mere speculation and personal opinion, without testing all of them in the same battle field and situations. Simple . |