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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:54pm On Sep 19, 2014
Troop101: kek man. Pls read that crap that old man Agubububu wrote. Shame on you Agubububu. You a LIAR.
Quote my post, I posted BBC source and it says 70% building of the OPV will be in Nigeria.

Now quote my post that you call a lie, lets see you knock heads with BBC today....quote that my post for us to see...Dummy Durango grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:51pm On Sep 19, 2014
Troop101: AGUBUBUBUBU your LIAR!!!!! Shame on you. You were boosting the hole time of your OPV (F92 so called stealth ship) that is build in Nigeria. And now Your master at Beegeagle's blog indicate someting whole differend (BUILD IN CHINA and is also expected to be delivered to your country for minor works) their is even a photo of the ship in china with the F92 pattern number
Oh my goodness, which school did you attend? Sources posted here many times say Nigeria is building 70% of the stealth ship, after China builds the body/hull which is 30%.

How do you build 70% of the OPV in Nigeria without first buildling the hull in China? Does the 70% hang in the air without the other parts?

You went to a normal South African school, I see how it makes you have a brain that drives always in reverse gear !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:46pm On Sep 19, 2014
GreenandGold: FACT = You're fabricating, there is no diplomatic way of saying "you ran away".. NA ran away a countless times from stone throwing peasants... how hopeless.
Nigerian army has not run away from Boko Haram, we remain in the same war zone for 4 years.

South African army Usain Bolted away from the war zone in 13 hours of combat, they now sleep at home jobless grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:39pm On Sep 19, 2014
DieVluit: Before we forget, let me hit you up real quick. First black african headed to space. Mandla Maseko. Seko Power right there. First African in space. Mark Shuttleworth (what a surname). Common denom? South African. That's all.
Did they come back with a cure for your HIV ? grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:38pm On Sep 19, 2014
GreenandGold: Anyone with information about the SA military involvement at 3am (this morning) in Lesotho?
Lesotho? ....SANDF always knows how to find tiny places where Seleka is absent

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:35pm On Sep 19, 2014
DieVluit: Giantets of Africa, your money has been donated to the South African government via our courts.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/south-african-court-okays-seizure-of-nigerias-9-3m/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
One single letter of threat to withdraw MTN's telecoms license, Jacob Zuma will pay Nigeria double of that $9.3 m in 24 hours
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: Your face when 16 of the 20 biggest companies in Africa are South African

http://www.theafricareport.com/top-500-companies-in-africa-2013.html

Lol Nigerians wanking over dangote and it doesn't come anywhere close to anything of relevance

The reigning champion continues to reign
One single man Mr.Dangote of Nigeria is busy buying up your economy grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:29pm On Sep 19, 2014
Henry120: Out of all the BRIC nations you're light years behind. FACT!!!!

According to the manner our budgets are made, the CIA fact-book doesn't represent any fact as to nigeria. It is a very confusing, in-correct source of information for nigeria.
Even Americans hate the lies told by CIA when they have a clandestine reason to lie.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:23pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: So you don't understand ten phrase "collateral task"?

Illiteracy confirmed!!
You go get some education.

SANDF deployed special forces and the 21 Battalion plus air force helicopter that perished inside Kruger park.

Use any language, your military was fighting Rhino poachers and they lost the war

Stop denying SANDF was operating anytime they failed, your army is your army whether they win or lose.

"The SANDF is active on two fronts in firstly ensuring protection of rhino populations on military land through the treatment of horns of living animals and secondly, taking part in inter-departmental initiatives among various government departments and agencies. These include the SA Revenue Service, SA Police Service, the intelligence community and SANParks, all of whom bring unique resources to joint anti-rhino poaching operations,” he said."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34762:the-sandf-and-rhino-poaching&catid=87:border-security

SANDF lost the war....beaten blue black by Rhino poachers including the ones on SANDF owned military land
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:15pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: And we have 100000 times more experience in the last 100 years

What's your point?

Also, citation needed
Nope...

Nigeria had many thousands of soldiers fight world war I that is 100 years ago

Nigeria had many thousands of soldiers fight world war II among 500,000 West African soldiers

Nigerian army has about 300,000 soldiers fight in Biafra war.

In the last 100 years Nigeria has more war experience than South Africa, Nigerian nation was formed and named in 1914.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nigerian-who-fought-burma-wwii-remembered
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:08pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: They have billets in their heads because your soldiers executed them

Because that's what the Nigerian army does

Kill civilians - call them BH
Who told you they are civilians ?

Fool, when they are k.illed their guns are removed, you need to take the photo quickly while the gun is there with the dead Boko.

Nigerian northern tribes in Konduga village don't wear jackets like that...and why are the Konduga people celebrating if Nigerians soldiers were murdering them on their streets ?

You need brain scan grin grin

Konduga victory was so sweet that even BBC and Sahara Reporters had no way to twist it differently ! Wow ! Naija army power !

One man one bullet in the head o !

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29190898
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:46pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: Citations have been posted that satellite was used after the battle of Bangui
I too can post on wikipedia and create citations that Nigeria used a submarine in Niger Delta war .

Countries rent/hire other countries satellites, Ghana is taking pictures today using Nigerian satellites and they pay us dollars grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:44pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: Point stands

We do have BVR... What is tha A-Darter?
Point falls.

Today Gripen and Hawk have NO BVR missile, A-Dartar has only 20km short-range....you are a fvcking Retaard from the womb grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:36pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: So 5 years difference between the American army's experience and south Africa's?
Nope, America deployed about half a million soldiers and thousands of jet fighters, helicopters, tanks, artillery in Vietnam war.

South Africa has a constant history of small tiny war deployments, only 4,000 men less than even one brigade in Bush war, with scanty number of jet fighters, and some few tanks.

America is NOT your mate, so don't even compare.

Nigeria deployed 15,000 men in Liberia, followed by 20,000 men in Niger Delta, followed by over 30,000 men in North East today.

Now that is why I say Nigeria has the most experienced army in Africa today by diversity and constancy of hard battlefield experience.

After bush war, South Africa's ANC flushed out 99% of the experienced white military men of the brutal apartheid era to prevent a coup or sabotage of Mandela presidency.

America kept her experienced men till Iraq the war, they don't have the messy apartheid problem that weakened and shattered SADF when it was downgraded to SANDF, replacing the few white combat experienced men with crowds of in-experienced, hungry, jobless, half-illiterate, low-intelligence, and chicken hearted HIV infected black South Africans.

That was how South African military human capacity fell down from grace to grass today and forever grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:26pm On Sep 19, 2014
patches689: Gripen does

And the Hawk can use radar readings sent to it via LinkZA

Bang bang - argument dead
Bang bang - argument IS ALIVE grin grin

Gripen jets do ONLY reconnaissance by carrying a small removable Recce Pod, just like dozens of other jets can do, F-15, Su-27, MiG-29, etc. Nothing special in recce roles, Pakistani F-7 jets carry recce pods.

ISTAR is not just reconnaissance alone, it is Intelligence-Surveillance-Target Acquisition-Reconnaissance ALL FOUR combine to make an ISTAR aircraft which South Africa's rag tag 66 years backward air force does NOT HAVE and WILL NOT HAVE until year 2020 because your government has no money for such expensive technology grin grin

The best ISTAR aircraft in Africa is Nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor with long flight endurance of 6 hours, can you fly a Gripen jet for 6 hours? NO, in 1 hour only, your foolish short range fake-ISTAR Gripen jet will run out of fuel and drop dead from the sky grin grin

One of the qualifications of an ISTAR aircraft is long flight endurance to keep surveying the area until mission is completed.

Gripen jet is NOT an ISTAR aircraft, NEVER !

Can you compare the 70km range ground search radar of Gripen with the 330km ground search range of ATR-42 ? No !

Gripen does not have full cabin load of heavy equipment, electronics, computers, sensors, etc that make up an ISTAR aircraft, so let me help you foolish South African durangos with the interior photos of Nigerian air force ATR-42 Surveyor, we have 2 and will buy 7 some confirmed.

Since their is no such aircraft existing in South Africa, come borrow one from Nigeria to help your rag tag SAAF grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:10pm On Sep 19, 2014
Centrifude: Uhm dude that's why we destroy that kinda ish before it gets too big of a problem to deal with, its like the level of crime in S.A many our politicians ignored it until it go out of control and that's one of the lessons we had to learn the hard way.

And don't bring in the U.S.A into dish, we both know crazy Sh*t would happen if there was an insurgency in the U.S and don't bring up Afghanistan and Iraq because that's different from being at home.

But away I didn't say it was easy to defeat B.H the initial argument was that S.A special forces are Better trained and experienced than your guys. We have better skills.
Don't deceive yourself, crime level in South Africa did not get out of hand because your government did not deal with it early enough.

Crime will happen when you have 5 million whites earning income 6 times more than 40 million blacks, with blacks having very high poverty and unemployment rate, no matter how much ANC gives them social benefits it will never satisfy their total needs and desires. Envy of the rich by the poor brings crime.

Social inequality, wide yawning gap between rich and poor in the same society breeds crime.

Skin colour difference brings natural hate and racial crime.

Men who have uncontrollable urge and libido in a society where women are perceived as pleasure tools will bring R.ape at random, or you blame ANC for not castrating all men's d...i...c..k early enough in 1994 ?

NO country in the world will ever stop crime, once the social system breeds people with criminal minds, you will have a high level of crime.

The 20 million blacks who are lazy and half-illiterate in a society of rich and successful whites, why won't they rob people in South Africa ?

The war against Rhino poaching was started early with Rangers, army, air force and special forces all involved, yet the war is lost and 500 Rhinos will be exiled by South Africa into Botswana. Why? The Rhino poachers have a motivation and nothing will change their minds, not even the American special forces hired to come and hunt them down.

Once people determine to do something, you CANNOT stop them until you k.ill them, same goes for Islamic terrorists, he believes God has sent him to be a Boko Haram matyr and hero. How do you change his mind?

On the issue of home, I have said this 101 times to you block head SA domingo durangos, American marines sent to Iraq and Afghanistan are created and trained to fight only overseas, US Marines don't fight war at home ! They failed doing exactly what they are trained to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Well at home, America has only 1% Islamic population and almost zero radical types that do jihad holy war.

If America has 50% Islamic faithfuls like Nigeria, there would be over 150 million potential Boko Harams in America, and over 50 million guns will be in their hands to use including M-16 rifles and modern Sniper rifles, when 10% of them want to be radical jihadists with 5 million assault rifles they know how to use well (Americans are very good bush hunters).....America will be worse than Somalia, they will wipe themselves out and the nation will cease to exist. I live there, and my statics are correct.

Now stop comparing America and South Africa to Nigeria, you guys don't have a 50% Islamic population with 10% of them radical jihadists

Algeria has the most modern military in Africa with the biggest budget that dwarfs South Africa, they fought Islamists at home for 11 years and 150,000 civilians died slaughtered by Islamists before the army got 95% victory, they have NOT been able to completely wipe out terrorism till today.

You CANNOT wipe out people's religious faith with a big gun
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:23pm On Sep 18, 2014
Centrifude: A.W.B has thousands or supports and our intelligence crushes any form of advance they try to make the only think they can do is whine and hold their rallies.

And don't forget that there are plenty of A.W.B supporter who are amongst South Africa's richest people, and our intelligence agencies monitor many of these right-wing extremist including their High ranking leaders, our guys monitor their finances and their movements to make sure that even if they do get international funding we know about it.
When the white men inside your intelligence and military decide to covertly support their white A.W.B brothers then you will know how cigarette burns when it is lighted inside your trousers.

You don't know what a die-hard insurgency is, there are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army stealing Nigerian weapons and giving them to Boko Haram. There are Boko Haram members in Nigerian army giving information of troop movements to Boko Haram.

Only a fool will think it is easy to fight a war when the enemy has sympathizers inside your own force ready to betray you secretly.

Sure South Africa has zero experience of that kind of war.

The day the white supremacists in South Africa get support from inside SANDF and intelligence agencies, then you will know how ignorant you have been.

Even America will sweat in that situation. Enemy within is 10 times more dangerous than enemy outside.

Pray South Africa never sees that kind of war, instead of coming here to boast that your country can easily defeat a kind of threat you have never seen before. You think your Frigates and Submarines will stop the faith and ideology of a terrorist?
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:37pm On Sep 18, 2014
Centrifude: MXM! oho! Those are just a bunch of dumb hooligans who are just taught to shoot a gun, they aren't real soldiers or battle hardened rebels like Seleka or Mai-Mai in congo
Boko Haram's Sahel group defeated the whole national Army and air force of Mali, it took mighty France to uproot them. Boko Haram's Maghreb group fought the most modern military in Africa....Algeria for a whole 11 years before they were defeated.

South Africa will become like Somalia if 10,000 Boer-white supremacist insurgent fighters get support from worldwide right wing terrorists and spread all over your country that has only 11 combat helicopters for a land 6 times bigger than Great Britain. South Africa will become another Somalia with 20 battalions of SANDF already crippled by HIV and unable to do hard combat !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:11pm On Sep 18, 2014
DieVluit: Professional army. People's army.
Sleeping army....all of them in the photo are in a hostel room beside their beds.

SANDF no war in 20 years....sleeping army at home !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:10pm On Sep 18, 2014
Patchesagain: Complete proof that the SANDF are not directly involved in APU duties:

Retired Major General Johan Jooste told a border surveillance technology co-operation seminar that one of the biggest problems facing him in the ongoing campaign against rhino poachers was that of turning people trained as conservationists – rangers – into “operators”.

“I ask myself if it’s right to train people whose function is protection of species, from grass through to birds and animals to become almost like Special Forces operators.

“When rangers go on patrol in search of rhino poachers they are up against an enemy who comes into Kruger for one to four days at a time with the express intention of killing rhino. He has the bushcraft and skills to survive on very little for that period of time and I am putting people in harm’s way trying to stop and apprehend him.

“Sure their job is to protect species and anti-poaching operations are part of it but it is a worrying aspect of current operations in the Kruger National Park.”


“Anti- and counter-poaching operations will remain a collateral task for soldiers and other military personnel deployed on border protection (Operation Corona) until there is a focus shift,” he said adding good training and doctrine would, in time and if deployed, be an asset against poachers.


- DefenceWeb

Complete proof that the SANDF are not directly involved in APU duties:
The above story you posted says SANDF are involved in Rhino poaching war, you just like to s.hoot yourself in the testicles grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:07pm On Sep 18, 2014
DieVluit: Real experience. SAAF in Tunisia. 1949.
Useless experience, there was NO war in Tunisia 1949 ! Fool grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:03pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: Why the last 20 years only?

Ok, how about the last 2 years:
1. 6th longest sniper kill in history
2. Extracting the Lesotho president in the midst of a coup
3. Operations deep behind M23 lines - destroying their logistics and C&C

What can Nigerian special forces claim in the last 20 years? Killing a man who is not dead?
Sniper kill record that was denied by SANDF Brigadier General becomes propaganda fake news, you own army denies it grin

Extracting Lesotho president in a ZERO threat zone where the enemy was not interested in fighting you, can you compare Seleka ?

Behind M23 lines was a United Nations operation NOT a South African war. Tanzanian army led the operations NOT SANDF grin

Conclusion : In the last 20 years, South African special forces have ZERO combat experience....Hollywood army grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:00pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: So when the rooivalk flies against the same guns they are only rebel worthy and not "real combat"

And when the Nigerian Airforce flies against them they are suddenly "world class"

Yet another contradiction

#worldClassContradictions
M23 was using weak 14.5mm single barrel AAA on Rooivalk and the Hinds were there to protect SAAF.

Boko is using superior 23mm four barrel AAA on NAF Helicopters and Alpha jets

NAF has 100 times more air to ground pilot combat experience than SAAF today 2014.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:55pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: Lol

This propaganda makes you feel good?

Simple propaganda for simple minds
No, 150 ammo per man in Nigerian army for rifles only, is a training doctrine of every bullet counts.....sharpshooting.

See, we target Boko men's heads, one bullet, s.kull is drilled with a hole....see heads with holes in these photos, that is what Nigerian army will do to SANDF, your photos and training has not allowed you to know what it means when a sharp-shooting enemy fires back at you in retaliation...
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:50pm On Sep 18, 2014
DieVluit: H

You say the US don't list much. You say Nigeria have no list. and then you ask for a list from south africa.

I think youre dizzy right now.your fight against Boko haram has been a total disaster. Don't even mention it. Other nations would've done way better. Everyone knows that your military has made a mess of the fight.
No, Nigerian Army made a mess of Boko Haram regularly, enjoy this....and show me video of how South African army performed against Seleka


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdwOfvLek3Q

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:49pm On Sep 18, 2014
Centrifude: This guy is dumb Thiza specifically said that those Operatives are retired but they are still active in training new recruits, coordinating missions and so on. The same way a soccer player may be retired from playing soccer but he/she still helps train new players and all that ish.

He can't accept the fact that our guys are better.
You cannot be better with ZERO war experience in 20 years for SANDF.

You are however, the best photography craaaaazy army in Africa
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:45pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: 5th longest sniper kill in the world

A man who was 17 in 1989... How old is he now? Simple question, answer it
Fake sniper kill only found in the mouths of South African propagandists and South African edited Wikipedia.

Show us proof of SANDF 17 year old men of 1989 still in combatant service today !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:43pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: If a man was 17 in 1989
Show us proof of 17 year old men in 1989 that are still in SANDF as combatants today !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:39pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: We have a satellite that performs military tasks
South Africa's satellite died natural death many years ago , so today you have NOTHING shocked shocked
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:38pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: And as the only sub Saharan country to have fought a conventional war with and advanced fighters flown by both sides. South Africa has maintained those capabilities.
Dude South Africa VS Cuba was old school Mirage 111 and F1 VS MiG-23 ancient aircraft that are no longer relevant today, they are NOT advanced jets, they are out-dated 3rd generation relics.

The only Sub-Saharan countries that have ever used modern 4th generation jets in combat are Ethiopia VS Eritrea using their Su-27 Flanker VS MiG-29 with BVR missiles.

South Africa has NEVER used 4th generation jets in combat.

South Africa has NEVER used BRV missiles in combat and you don't even have any BVR today.

South Africa has NEVER used her Gripen and Hawk jets in battle.

South Africa's old 1980s and 1990s air combat experience is ZERO relevance today where Africa is flying latest Su-30 Flankers and F-16 jets
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:29pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: Meanwhile - BH killed 3000 or so Nigerians this year

In South Africa.... Just over 700 rhino dead

We better protect rhino than you do your people
Are you protecting 177 million Rhinos? We have 177 million people to protect
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:27pm On Sep 18, 2014
patches689: This has literally nothing to do with development
Technological advancement has nothing to do with development? Okay your own idea of a developed country is the one that makes nice photos of all it's good roads and houses. Ode grin
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