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NaijaPikinGidi: When you can't argue based on truthful facts you begin to act stupid? Anyway, based on my undisputable comment this link should keep you busy for a while.

https://za.news.yahoo.com/robberies-continue-gauteng-shopping-malls-150122395.html

Otherwise this search string is enough to keep you busy on Google:

"stealing in shopping mall in South Africa"

#criminallySouthAfrican

Speechless....So I laugh...

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Henry120: Show us operational communications with photos? Did you not say photos are worth a thousand words?

South African military Data-Links do NOT exist....it's a unicorn
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NaijaPikinGidi: So far your SA criminals and gangsters are running rings round your helpless government and security outfits. Crime has significantly increased from last year's reported levels. At the same time Shopping malls in September alone have been brazenly robbed and fleeced of million dollar worth of goods!

You surely are living large in your crime and fool's paradise.

My old uncle plays one Bob Marley song when I was a kid...

"....thinking you are in heaven when you are living in hell".....just like Republic Of Shout Afrikaa

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patches689: Whatever you need to say to sleep at night.

Piracy in South Africa: 0
Piracy in Nigeria: 11+ attacks this year alone.

Oil & Gas mining business in the ocean of South Africa = 0

Oil & Gas mining business in the ocean of Nigeria, West Africa, Central Africa, Angola = $ 10 Trillion

Your empty South African ocean has nothing attractive, God denied you the mineral blessing and gave you only fish and crabs

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patches689: 4 Sources say it has been produced

BRVM's need radar as they engage targets that cannot be seen (and thus cannot be targetted digitally or manually)

Mokopa can be manually or digitally vectored onto a target, mmW is for guidance not specifically for targeting.

Dude, seriously, you didnt even know what an mmW seeker was until I told you.

Now you want to keep arguing?

No, you are the one that wants to argue that petrol engines work without petrol.

millimeter waves are produced ONLY by millimeter radars.

radar waves don't produce themselves out of nothing like magic !

No millimeter wave radar = No millimeter wave emmision.

Simple science that WEF says NO single South African will ever understand

South Africa remains 2nd dullest brains in the world next to Yemen which is almost a failed state

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patches689: And the mmW machine is in the seeker of the Makopa you clown - you dont even know what we are talking about!!

O my word, I seriously cannot beleive what I am reading

You dont have mmW version of Mokopa. None was ever built. All are laser guided.

Even if you build one tomorrow, mmW seeker head is in the Mokopa, how does it get fire control from the helicopter? How does it lock on target and seek after target with seeker head?

AIM-120 missile has seeker head, yet it gets fire control from the radar inside the Gripen jet to be controlled by the pilot and to make it lock on target.

You have NO fire control radar on Rooivalk, you have NO mmW radar guided Mokopa...Denel refused to build that version because it knows the Rooivalk has NO fire control radar.

Soweto produces the second dullest brains in the world

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patches689: What happens 3-4 THOUSAND kilometers away is none of our buisness

We are focused on the Mozambique channel to protect our trade headed into Durban

Nigeria is doing nothing to protect ITS OWN WATERS which are now the WORLDS BIGGEST PIRACY HOTSPOT

Pirates NEVER originated from Mozambique, they come from Somalia.

Nigerian navy in action....just like the US Navy I posted above....but we see no South African action

https://gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/tag-reuters-6.jpeg

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patches689: Run out of argument

Resort to racism.

Yeah, who has been running the show for the last 20 years?

O yeah, thats right

South African navy did NOTHING to stop piracy in your own Indian Ocean.....

"(Seychelles News Agency) -

The continued stability in Somalia, a heavy presence of European and US navies in the western Indian Ocean and a security conscious maritime industry has seen the piracy menace which had plagued this horn of Africa nation reducing to an all-time low"

http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/300/Why+piracy+in+Somalia+has+declined



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patches689: We are pretty good at dealing with piracy

Pirate attacks in the Mozambique channel dropped to ZERO as soon as we arrived

Can you say the same?

The pirates originate from Somalia, the USA/NATO/China defeated them up north...to set you free down south

Bow again to your white lords, be grateful

http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/300/Why+piracy+in+Somalia+has+declined

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patches689: And yet we are the most advanced economy in Africa

100% job done by your Boer-White masters who say that you blacks and coloureds are Dog Food...
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patches689: We have zero piracy attacks in South African waters.

So yes, I would say it is doing a great job

Can you say the same?

Nigerian navy alone bears the cost and work load of patrolling the whole West African ocean down to Gulf Of Guinea into Angola in your SADC region. We spend millions of dollars every week on that huge ocean patrol of the waters of about 12 countries.


You have low piracy because American/NATO/Chinese naval warships and aircraft carriers have defeated the Somali pirates that would have been raiding your waters and turn your navy into a disgrace the way Rhino poachers messed up your army.


Say thank you to your white lord and masters again for doing 100% job while you sleep

http://gcaptain.com/somali-piracy-attacks-at-six-year-low/

https://gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/101122-N-0000X-001.jpeg
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patches689: Yeah, totally, you never do that right!?

That was no insult to the dead, that was an insult to South African government that begged for permit to fly in an aircraft to carry the dead.

My stance on the dead South Africans was declared from beginning...

DieVluit: Dead family where? I see live beings in there. Efficiently and effectively collected by an organised and CARING force; and put up in a well - equipped medical plane. It took over your space and executed a mission in your backyard.

Dude, stop making a mockery of your own dead countrymen and women. I am not gonna play that heartless game....and those people died inside a church....stop this ugly game
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patches689: Dude are you illiterate?

Your own source says that mmW is used as fire control radar in some vehicals - i.e. in some instances it is used as fire control radar

it does not say mmW armed seekers need radar to target items.

In the case of the ATGM, the missile itself does the targeting, after being digitally programmed to vector onto a target.

Good lord man, please learn to read.

Nope, it says clearly "Millimeter wave radar is used in short-range fire control radar in tanks and aircraft"

mmW radar is a radar machine that produces mmW, used for fire control. One of such radars is the mmW radar in the photo below.

mmW is not a radar, mmW is a wave....millimeter wave....mmW....a wave is not a radar machine.

It is a radar that will produce waves, that is why radars have wavelength....the length of the waves a radar produces or emits.

You need a mmW radar machine to produce mmW waves for you, otherwise you have no millimeter waves !

Now this is why World Economic Forum says you South Africans have the second worst scientific knowledge in the whole world....you don't even know basic Physics....you are a fool that thinks a wave is a radar, when a radar is actually a visible mechanical equipment that produces invisible waves....

#ALL South Africans Are Duller Than Togolese

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patches689: What denel evidence?

From a brochure? Yeah, ok we only sell IR seekers. But multiple sources confirm that mmW has and can be fitted on the Mokopa.

Also, how does the A129 Mangusta and Eurocopter Tiger fire AGM-114?

Stop building strawman arguments and show us where it says that you need radar taregting to for mmW missiles. Show us in black and white where it says that.

Or else the French, Germans and Turks spent a whole lot of money on missiles they cannot use.

Can be fitted is NOT equal to it is fitted.

Nigerian F-7 jet can be fitted with BVR radar and BVR missiles, has it been fitted?

I have shown the whole world and not only you....Fire Control Radar is needed to fire any mmW radar missile, written in the source below in black and white, clean and clear.

You cannot use petrol engine without petrol.

AGM-114 Hellfire missile has Laser guidance for helicopters that have no radar. Fool

Desperate to come out of the mud pit he dug for himself.....but failed....fool

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patches689: Says the guy who is obsessed with other mens girlfriends?
Who writes long sentances about handling my testicles?
Who makes fun of the dead?

#Contradictions

Your girlfriend is 100 times inferior to your mother, you can dump her in one minute and she is NOT your blood.

Squeezing peoples' balls is a sentence used freely all over the world.

I don't make fun of any dead except Boko Haram.

Can you quote where I said any obscenity about anybody's mother on this forum?

Making arguments about country vs country is not a reason to degenerate into Babarian Animals.

You Patches has called my mother a prostitute many time on this forum, show me where I retaliated by saying the same about your mother.

I am a Nigerian and I am trained with a level of moral decency I won't throw away just to score cheap points

The decent school buildings we see in South African photos have not produced students of decent moral character.

Infrastructure is not everything, South African society is rotten inside
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patches689: Ok, now show me where it says mmW ATGM's need Radar targetting on the platform that fires them.

Or else the Rooivalk and A129 Mangusta have weapons they cannot use

Fact is that they DON'T have mmW

There are weapons Rooivalk can use but does not have them equipped, Mistral air to air missile is an example, but it needs radar to be effective, and since their is no fire control radar on Rooivalk, Mistral missiles were NEVER purchased.

NOT all capabilities and options of weapons in this world are manufactured, some are just possibilities but never installed.


Denel did not put fire control radar on Rooivalk, so they only produced laser version of Mokopa ATGM....

I don't need to repost the Denel evidence, do I ?

Big fool
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GreenandGold: Not before we dog.gystyle your mother.

How would you feel if I said that about your own mother?

If you have no moral upbringing from your parents, you could excuse us from this forum.

We Nigerians are decent people. We don't write obscene insults about peoples mothers.

You are a disgrace to South Africa
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Henry120: Nigeria is going to record another First in 2018. We are the first and only african country to build and launch a satellite, Nigeria SAT-X. This time, we're going to build and launch the first made in africa satellite on African soil.


Dragon had earlier posted this story, as usual the south-africans avoided it like a plague. Anyway, I'm posting it again.




The Minister of Science and Technology, Dr Abdu Bulama, said on Tuesday in Abuja that Nigeria would design, fabricate, test and launch its indigenous satellite by 2018.

Bulama stated this when he inspected facilities at the Obasanjo Space Centre of the National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA).

The minister said the centre had the mandate to launch Nigeria’s first indigenous satellite by 2018, and described space science and technology programme as an important component of the Nigerian dream.

According to him, the satellite programme has a very positive role to play in the transformation agenda of President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration.

Bulama directed that the assembly, testing and integration centre, and the Synthetic Aperture Rader Satellite, which are under construction, be completed by 2015. “The Assembly, Testing and Integration Centre, and the Synthetic Aperture Rader Satellite are the nucleus of NASRDA.

“It is here that we will, by the grace of God, launch our first made in Nigeria satellite by 2018. “By 2018, by the grace of God, we want to see made-in-Nigeria satellite launched. It will be built in this laboratory and launched by our Nigerian scientists,” he said. According to him, competence and capabilities in satellite technology serve as tool for national growth and a huge contribution to the development and benefit of mankind.

Earlier, the Director-General of NASRDA, Dr Seidu Mohammed, who conducted Bulama round the facilities, said the agency could boast of world-class technology in term of facilities.

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In Africa, Nigeria leads in the world of ISTAR and Satellite technology.

Even Egypt is far behind us.

South Africa is 100 years lost behind

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MikeZA: You think South Africans care about such fantasies.

Your South African nuclear reactors to be built by Russia in year 2030 is the greatest fantasy on this forum.

Most South Africans would have died of HIV before that 2030
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patches689: Feel free to show us where it says that you need targeting radar to fire radar guided weapons.

Your "source" says nothing of the sort.

As usual you desperately post away, unwittingly setting traps for yourself. Your jealousy of South Africa drives you to the most pathetic depths.

I truly pity you.

But I would pity you less if you could show me where it says you need radar to target mmW weapons

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The whole world says you need fire control radar to fire radar guided missiles including mmW radar seeker missiles .

I just posted the photo screen shot on this page early this morning.

You want to see it again? My pleasure....You lose again Patches

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patches689: You don't need radar to fire missiles with mmW. Rooivalk has a digital targeting system for just that reason
http://www.aircraft.co.za/Encyclopedia/D/459.php

Radar on attack helicopters is for detection of targets not targeting which can be done digitally or even analog

A129 does not have targeting radar- yet it too can fire mmW missiles
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/agusta/

Yet again you show us all how little you know

The only thing getting nailed around here is your reputation

I think this is going to be a repeat of that week were I smashed you for 8 days in a row.

Your own sources above do NOT say what you claim. They actually prove you wrong.

Helicopters that want to fire radar weapons have to be fitted with fire control radars, that is why America later added radars to Apache.

Missiles are only guided by 3 methods in this world.

Infra red

Radar

Sight

No radar guided weapon can fire on target without a fire control radar.

A radar guided missile NEEDS a fire control radar lock on target or it will fail.

No radar guided missile in this world can use radar guidance without fire control radar.

How do you use a mmW radar missile without a radar ?

How do you use a petrol engine without petrol ?

Dude, you want to change science and technology principles to justify your false claims, Bwahahaha, go fool your 2 year old kid at home

You have the most Retaarded South African brain on this forum

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patches689: 1. I have provided more proof that we have mmW than you have to prove you have T84 thus it is more likely that we have mmW than it is that you have T84s
2. Denel is stated owned, everything they make belongs to the government
3. We have 70km VLAP ammo


Long post destroyed by 3 simple points

Also, defence web says nothing about mmW- only infrared. Or don't you know the diff between mmW and multi-purpose warheads?

So yes, the case is indeed closed

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Finally I will put one extra nail on y.our coffin .

You have just been wasting your time for nothing on millimeter wave radar seeker because it needs a fire control radar to function.

Rooivalk helicopter has NO fire control radar, so it CANNOT fire Mokopa missile with a millimeter wave radar seeker

O ! Thou Great Mumu of Gauteng....CASE CLOSED

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patches689: Mokopa is developed in two configurations, the Mokopa SAL, (Semi-Active Laser) missile which has an articulated seeker head and the Mokopa MMW (MilliMetre Wave) missile, equipped with a tandem warhead. Rooivalk can also fire Hellfire or HOT 3 missiles
http://www.defencejournal.com/may99/rooivalk.htm

That's 4 sources now

Gripen jet is developed with options of both short range and long range missiles, does South Africa have any long range missile on their Gripens? No !

Denel developed and tested 70km range shell for G-6 artillery, but SANDF does NOT have it.

Many weapons are developed with options that everybody does not have or bother to buy.

Mokopa can be developed in 10 configurations and I don't care, all I care about is that what Denel sold to SANDF is the laser guidance type ONLY.

It is possible does not mean we have done it.

SANDF Mokopa missile is the laser guided version only as proved by Denel the manufacturer.

Now South African defenseweb too says ONLY laser guidance is available for Mokopa.

"Alternative Mokopa configurations on offer include imaging infrared guidance and multi-purpose warhead option."

ALL South African sources that talk about what was produced say it is ONLY infra red seeker on Mokopa.

Your own country's sources that you respect have proved you wrong. Sorry about your fatal injury.

Case Closed

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patches689: What year is it? 2013?

From a source that is your hard-drive?

Outdated info

Untrustworthy info

I don't care about your personal opinion and rantings. I want a clear 100% confirmed proof.

Show me DENEL 2014 information to prove that SANDF has mmW on Mokopa now !
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F117A: I don look there tire, i no see am.
You fit drop link abeg

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http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode



beegeagle says:

September 14, 2014 at 8:38 am

Gentlemen, I have it on good authority by someone whose credibility ratings I would put at CATEGORY A….same league as the sources of my exclusive photos on Shilka Gunnery and Mi-35s THAT

* the best aeronautical hands in the NAF are assembling two categories of top class fighter jets

* we have a mix of factory upgraded and brand new assets. I know the number of the upgraded 4G jets but not the brand-new ones. Just like we recommended, the NAF have the most powerful mix of new and used jets in…covering multirole and air superiority tasks and the handicap of short-legged and unambitious homeland defence jets has now been overcome. To the glory of God, we did not fall for the temptation to acquire stripped down Western-made jets with all the foul politics of neocolonial control entailed. We have learned the lessons of past arms embargoes.

* we are now proud owners of factory upgraded Sukhoi Su-30s, four of which have been fully assembled.

* we are also proud owners of the open architecture JF-17 Thunder, brand-new assets those. The JF17 can take on Chinese, Russian and Western avionics and munitions. So anyone country’s systems can be substituted if and when they try to play God.

THANK YOU, GEJ. Thank you to a listening Air Marshal Amosun, worthy CAS extraordinaire. Your courage, forthright communication and good judgement has been crucial to this. Thank you, ONSA. In thee, I am well pleased.

With the Su-30, JF17, Mi-35M, Mi-171Sh Terminator and ALX Super Tucano, the NAF are looking the most advanced, powerful and modern that the have ever been in their 50 year history. 2012-2015 shall be adjudged to be the NEW GOLDEN age of the NAF. For the first time ever, we have the NAF in the market for an unprecedented 40 combat helicopters. There is a blue moon over Nigeria. Remember when we said that the postponement of the AIR EXPO 2014 meant that we are in line to take delivery of befitting assets and that the expo shall be grand as as can be. I want to be there in conjunction with Ken Iwelumo so we bring the most upstanding reportage and footage to bear on the event. I trust that the NAF shall carry us along. Nigeria shall be the better for it.

HOPEFULLY, the same transformational touch is extended to the NA and NN as far as offensive systems are concerned. Then, it shall be written that this FG did more for the Nigerian military than the benchmark Shagari regime.

If I get to see photos, I shall confirm this beyond all doubt. If I have NAF authorisation, I shall publish same so that the party begins without further delay. The biggest TOMBOLA NIGHT ever beckons for the NAF.



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patches689: They have been posted multiple times

Both clearly state mmW seekers are available.

NNS Centenary can be upgraded to carry C-803 anti-ship missiles with 250km range, can I claim we have it becausee it can carry it?

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Denel is final authority....

It says Mokopa missile has ONLY Infra-Red guidance. Case Closed.

file:///C:/Users/user/Downloads/Denel%20Dynamics%20Product%20Brochure.pdf

Case Closed by Denel the Manufacturer of Mokopa

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F117A: I don look there tire, i no see am.
You fit drop link abeg.

I will drop the link and messages here for you overnight
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F117A: SU-30?
Any proof of that?
Anyway,make i relax.
I understand the parole.

4 units of Su-30 flankers delivered to NAF . Go to beegeagles blog. Photos coming soon sir
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DieVluit: Augu-wee. Who exactly is Nigeria's ally/partner? I see Nigerians forever complaining about being hated (by the BBC, the UK, by the U.S., by by by...). So, who really partners you? Where will you turn for QUALITY armaments? Seems you're stuck, mate? You let the U.S. into your land to undertake intelligence ops and to then turn around and hide the info from you. And as if that wasn't enough, the U.S. then accuses you of human rights violations and starves you of weapons. What kind of a country are you? What yeye foreign policy is this?

Nigeria is a Non-aligned nation. Our lethal weapons suppliers are majorly Russia and China.

You go ask Jacob Zuma why Chinese president sits down in China and uses ordinary email to command South Africa not to allow Dalai Lama into your country and 50 million South Africans have to obey China's command.

Every non-white person has fun colonizing you fools even in 2014
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dragon2: Guys, respect the dead.(w.r.t. to the church collapse).

Chief, the South Africans started it sir, we told them to stop for the sake of the dead and the church, they refused. They continued to scream insults on Nigeria....forcing us to retaliate. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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F117A: Una dey try o.
Defending GEJ and co.
I definitely can't.
Not when the resources to do the right thing is available,but they keep messing it up.

GEJ just bought jets Su-30 Flankers, JF-17 Thunders, Super Tucanos, and 40 helicopters, new Shilka AAA, Spartan APC, BigFoot MRAP, T-84 Oplot tank, LG3 Automatic Grenade Launchers, new Chinese attack helicopters etc.

What else do you want him to buy? Nuclear bombs?

We are defending Nigeria not GEJ.

We are men of the armed forces of the FRN.

Maintain oga !

DieVluit: This from a person who posts pictures of Nugerians when desperate lol. The issue is not dead bodies (you mentioned that). The issue is that of the airspace, which was invaded, efficiently at that, by SA.

Invaded by an unarmed transport plane that begged for clearance to land and begged for fuel to return home....it's your duty to come and carry your dead bodies, for that we are happy to open our airspace for you...we made business by selling you landing permit, entry visas fees for your medics and sale of aviation fuel. Good we ripped you off with bills to pay while you come airlift your dead family.
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