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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:37pm On Sep 23, 2014
MikeZA: It is normal,the presidential jet is undergoing maintains.
ANC is rapidly destroying EVERY good structural national legacy your white lords and masters built in 100 years. ANC has retaaarded South Africa
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:34pm On Sep 23, 2014
chris365: hahahahahahahaha..... the limousine air force is broke to that extent? damn!
Jacob Zuma will still start going to work on Okada and traveling overseas on Somali airlines. Useless South Africa grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:31pm On Sep 23, 2014
MikeZA: F-7 inferior in terms of avionics,canards,EW kit etc to the Gripen.

SAAF pilots are more trained,and their tactics proved effective when pinned against other Gripen pilots from other nations during Exercise Lion effort. In close combat.

Air combat isn't about the jets,but about the systems from C2 systems,radars and EW systems in support. How many US jets did the Indian SU-30K down during some exercise years back when support by such systems?

This SU-30Ks are the same which were returned to Russia and now some of them sold to our Angolan Allies.

The F-7 is a plain copy of the MIG-21 which SAAFF downed in Angola with cannon fire,from Mirages.

Keep dreaming dreamer!!!!
South African airforce has the WEAKEST Gripen jets in the world, poorly armed with very short range missile and only ONE missile for each jet.

SAAF pilots don't fly because of lack of funds and 12 Gripens are frozen in long term storage.

Gripen jet maneuverability is VERY poor in air combat....F-7 jet uses latest Italian radar and has ECM suite plus vertical stabilizer for flight maneuvers.

Both airforces are balanced equal today September, but by December NAF air expo Nigeria will show all it's secretly purchased NAF Flankers, Thunders, Tucanos, and 40 new combat helicopters....we are not in a hurry to show the world that NAF is now superior to SAAF. We wait till 2014 air expo show December
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:37pm On Sep 23, 2014
MikeZA: CHILDISH :

IRIS-T range:25km. The speed of missile irrelevant as it is outranged LOL. As your jets will be shot down before they can get close to engage.


Childish:

South Africa will soon reveal multi-role stealth fighter hidden somewhere in Makhado.

Keep dreaming,desperate child.
The 3km gap between IRIS-T range and PL-9 range will be closed by supersonic F-7 jet in only 1 second !!!!

PL-9 is faster and reaches target before IRIS-T.

Both SAAF and NAF will d.ie in air battle F-7 vs Gripen.

However, Su-30 and JF-17 is our new air superiority over you.

Air expo 2014 will show the world how Nigerian airforce become superior to South African air force overnight !
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:31pm On Sep 23, 2014
andrewza: it is a modified T80
Gripen jet is a modified Viggen jet.

T-84 will tear Olifant into pieces
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:29pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: still waiting...
....For Patrick to copy and quote mmW written sources on Mokopa after he got scammed by teenagers on invisionfree today grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:27pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: That means we can fire 2 missiles per J-7

World Record Missile Surplus grin
After F-7 uses flares counter measures to waste all 25 Gripen missiles, we then open fire with 55 F-7 PL-9 and PL-7 missiles...

World record disaster for South Africa grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:31pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Weakpoint: J-7... only 3 of them grin grin

There have been many Nigerian airshows since you said you have had the Tucano... all you have managed to put in the sky is 3 measly Coffins
2014 air expo was announced for April but postponed. Maybe you personally hold air shows in Nigeria inside South African embassy building.

11 F-7s with 170 missiles

26 Gripens with 25 missiles....World Record Missiles Shortage tongue tongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:17pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Both clearly say mmW

Or are you blind?
No, the first said you don't have wwM, the other said it does not even exist is South Africa. Quote your claims in clear written words and let us mock you like teenagers did to you today on invisionfree website.

M..oron of Gauteng got scammed by internet teenagers today. grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Sep 23, 2014
MikeZA: IRIS-T range: 25km.

The GBADS will soon receive the RSR 320 radar and Umkhonto missile,expect a contract SOON!!!!!!!!
Nigeria's NAF at 2014 air expo will display Su-30 Flanker, JF-17 Thunder, Super Tucano already hidden in NAF TAC Makurdi air base SOON!!!!!!

Meanwhile...

IRIS-T speed mach 3

PL-9C speed mach 3+

You guys should stop trying to beat me at my own game....look for my weakpoint if you are smart enough to find it

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:05pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: You conveniently missed two citations:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/idex_2013_news_coverage_report_pictures_video/denel_dynamics_showcases_a_full_range_of_its_tactical_missile_products_at_idex_2013_2102131.html

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/latest-south-african-missile-achieves-qualification-2011-01-26
No, I read all citations, they all prove me correct. Mokopa has ONLY laser guidance that can be easily jammed by any smoke any time anywhere.

You Patrick got scammed by invisionfree kids today...butt-hurt tongue tongue

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:01pm On Sep 23, 2014
Henry120: You cannot prove SANDF has operational Data Links, okay? I rest my case.

SAloanNDF = no data links.
Bwahahaahaa grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Sep 23, 2014
DieVluit: Dead family where? I see live beings in there. Efficiently and effectively collected by an organised and CARING force; and put up in a well - equipped medical plane. It took over your space and executed a mission in your backyard.
Dude, stop making a mockery of your own dead countrymen and women. I am not gonna play that heartless game....and those people died inside a church....stop this ugly game
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:48pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Feel free to show us where it was stopped due to lack of funds

As for the rest, your obsolete jet with inferior missiles, inferior radar, limited (if not none) EW and no data-link doesnt stand a chance.

A-darter can be used to shoot down incoming missiles and can pull 100g turns.
Show us proof of what stage your GBADS is up to.

Gripen jets have no A-Darter missile in service today 2014.

Then you messed yourself up....

A-Darter range 20km

PL-9C range 22km

NAF beats SAAF shocked shocked

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:41pm On Sep 23, 2014
DieVluit: I did not see dead bodies. But I did see your airspace being invaded.
Oh, then you must be a blind man if you cannot see your own dead family in the aircraft.

Arik airline of Nigeria invades South Africa every week

Better you stop making jokes about the dead, that ugly game will hurt you most.

Fool.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:34pm On Sep 23, 2014
GreenandGold: If I were you I wouldn't say that... a SAAF Hercules flew into your airspace just 48hours ago.

#WeFlyIntoYourAirspace
....to carry your families' dead bodies. May their gentle souls R.I.P. Amen

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:31pm On Sep 23, 2014
MikeZA: The IRIS-T range is 25km. So all your air craft are already DEAD.

You want us to have childish argument?

SAAF can destroy most air forces in sub-saharan Africa,cause of the support it has from GBADS to other systems.
SANDF has NO single GBADS until 2017 and project has stopped due to lack of funds, so your earliest time is 2020 grin

In air to air jet combat 3km missile distance is NOTHING when NAF F-7 jets fly at 2,200 km/h they close that gap in about 1 second.

PL-9C missile speed mach 3+ is faster than IRIS-T at mach 3.

So SAAF loses to NAF !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:03pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: We are even selling them cool

Mokopa MMW ATGM: $300-350,000
Mokopa IIR ATGM: $250-300,000
http://nationcreation.wikia.com/wiki/Modern_Day_Military_Pricing_List
[size=14pt]Bwahahaha grin grin

Patches has fallen into a trap!

That website is full of fake information!

It says all its weapons list is taken from...

http://z9.invisionfree.com/21c/index.php

Do you know what invisionfree website is?

It is a role playing website of imaginary things where young boys play with ideas, it is NOT real !

See the price for old F-15 jet for $170 million per unit listed there....Patches has been fooled by kids.

All that data is fake, I can show you list of NAF aircraft on invisionfree website, it says NAF has Flying Leopard Long Range Chinese Strike Jets Fighter Bombers and over 200 new assorted jet fighters types that we don't have.

Patches just been scammed by kids because of his dull South African b.rain grin grin

Mokopa has NO mmW and IIR, nothing like that in South Africa, that's the reason DENEL says nothing about it.

Desperate fool of Gauteng has just disgraced himself again o !

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:46pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: #ShowUsNigerianJetsInTheSky

You only have 3 airworthy J-7's
Nigeria has 11 fully air worthy F-7 jets and 20 PL-9C missiles and 150 PL-7 missiles.

So if all the jets of an air force don't fly together in one photos then they are not operational? Then USAF needs to fly 2,000 jet fighters together inside one big photo....fool grin

Show us all 18 South African Gripen jets in one single photo flying together at the same time as proof they are all operational.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:26pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: First, I never said the seekers are a South African invention - so that is irrelevant
Second, mmW is not banned (they are talking about something completely different you illiterate buffoon)
Third, we do have it and it is fitted - burden of proof is on you to show that we do not
#ShowUs Proof Of mmW and IIR on Mokopa Missile shocked shocked

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:23pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Ours is a contract:

Price

Quantity of reactors

Time-frame

Does yours have any of those things?

No!
The fact that South Africa urinates in public does not mean you are the only one that has a d.iick. Nigeria urinates inside a toilet
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:14pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Long post

Nothing that related specifically to the Makopa

10km range

milimeter band radar + datalink

Dead T80

Dont come talk to us about mythical SAM systems
T-84 tank, not T-80....fool grin

Nigerian air defence is NOT mythical, we have displyed them in action on this forum. All South African air force aircraft will be sh.ot down in 1 minute.


Mokopa has 10km range, now show us the range of the FLIR targeting system on your Rooivalk helicopters.....it is less than 5km... Rooivalk will be withing death zone range of Nigerian army k.iller Roland anti-aircraft missiles and Shilka AAA has 7km maximum range.

Fool of Gauteng ; D ; D
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:09pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: 10km is not very close at all cool
NAF F-7 jets air to air PL-9C missiles range is 22km so ALL your Rooivalks are already dead before they even notice a Nigerian T-84 tank.....fool you forgot that not only you have an air force....fool grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:31pm On Sep 23, 2014
Thiza: he reported killing of a top Boko Haram leader said to be Abubakar Shekau has again ignited a fresh controversy between Nigerian and Cameroonian troops.

The Cameroon Concord had on Monday quoted a military source as having said that Shekau was killed on Saturday by the Cameroonian Army during a cross border aerial bombardment of his hideout in Nigeria.

To prove the killing, the newspaper also published photographs of the bearded man it said was Shekau who usually appears in videos as the leader of Boko Haram.

It made reference to a statement by the Cameroonian military authorities on the killing but was silent on its content.

The paper added in the report that the Cameroon army had been in serious combat against thousands of Boko Haram fighters trying to enter Cameroon through Fotokol from Gamboru Ngala in Borno State.

But Nigeria’s Defence authorities dismissed the claim that the said Shekau was killed by Cameroonian security forces within Nigeria.
Let Cameroon show us 'Shekau II' dead body and Mowag APC the same way we display everything in Nigeria grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:28pm On Sep 23, 2014
Thiza: Mr. Salkida’s tweet appeared to confirm that the Boko Haram “officer” killed by Nigerian soldiers in Konduga was a different person from Mr. Shekau. In fact, Nigerian security officials have maintained for months that Mr. Shekau was dead, apparently killed by his own disaffected lieutenants in an internal rivalry for control of the terrorist organization.

Ahmed Salkida, journalist
In a tweet earlier today, Mr. Salkida also dismissed media reports that the Nigerian government was negotiating with Boko Haram for the release of more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped in mid-April by Boko Haram militants in Chibok, Borno State. The reporter’s tweet also described as untrue reports that the International Red Cross (IRC) was working on a deal that would persuade Boko Haram to free the abducted Chibok schoolgirls in exchange for the release of detained Islamist insurgents in the custody of Nigerian security agencies.
Nigerian army has 'ShekauII' dead body, ask the people who say no, to show us his living body talking grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:23pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: Another mythical project

Of course, an intergovernmental agreement is not a contract that directly precedes construction, but it fits in with Rosatom’s plans to build a solid legal basis for international nuclear energy partnership.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2011/08/07/54312600/

Its an MOU you clown.

Meanwhile in South Africa:

Russia's atomic energy agency said Monday it will provide up to eight nuclear reactors to South Africa by 2023 in a $50m strategic partnership between the two countries

South Africa currently has only one nuclear power plant. The new Russian reactors are expected to go online in 2023.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/09/22/russia-and-south-africa-sign-nuclear-energy-deal

As usual, South Africans only talk of facts, Nigerians talk about dreams

Nigerians, come back and talk to us when you actually have a nuclear power plant grin
Nope, we signed agreement and South Africa too signed agreement according to your own source.

If ours is an MOU, then yours is an MOU too grin grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:17pm On Sep 23, 2014
patches689: You need to know what you are talking about before you can comment on such things

Mokopa has both IR and mmW - and you cannot defend against Milimeter-Band Radar seekers

http://www.armyrecognition.com/idex_2013_news_coverage_report_pictures_video/denel_dynamics_showcases_a_full_range_of_its_tactical_missile_products_at_idex_2013_2102131.html
FAIL !! grin grin

Mokopa missiles does NOT have any mmW and IIR, they are hopeful upgrades NEVER done, according to your own source. The two technologies are American inventions NOT South African.....you are a thief grin grin

Even America has problem with mmW and has been slated for ban because it causes skin harming radiation and is viewed as 'chemical/biological weapon.' Anyway, South Africa does not have it, and it is NOT fitted on any Mokopa missile.

All Mokopa missiles are laser guided ONLY and Nigerian T-84 will jam them and they are useless grin grin

See another proof that confirms what I warned you about the weakness of Ingwe and Mokopa missiles, ALL their laser guidance systems can be jammed by ordinary smoke, not to even mention the advanced Virta Optronics Counter-Measures jamming of Nigerian army T-84 specially built to disable all enemy laser targeting systems from land and air.

"Conventional missile guidance systems use lasers for guidance but these are not useable in bad weather. With the capability to see through fog, rain, smoke and dust, missile guidance systems at mm-wavelengths provide an alternative."

"Millimetre-wave systems can only operate at distances of a few kilometres and so can only be used for short range missiles or when the missile is almost at its target to give precision aiming."

"This new technology has met with some criticism. The main concern is that the effects intensify on sweaty skin and may produce harmful hotspots as a result of a radiation build up"

http://www.vision4thefuture.org/s4_resources/3_military.htm

IIR guidance too does NOT exist on Mokopa or Ingwe missiles, South Africa does NOT have them, it is another American invention from 1970s....you are a liar and thief grin grin

"Imaging sensors were used with precision guided weapons since the early 1970. Until recently, lack of processing power and datalink capacity have limited the use of such guidance techniques to relatively short range direct attack weapons (such as Maverick) and medium range strike missiles (such as Have Lite and SLAM)."

http://defense-update.com/products/i/IIR-VIS-guidance.htm

Now Retaaard of Gauteng, you did NOT know the technology you were talking about and Nigerian's as usual have come to your rescue and educated you roundly grin grin

Also, the mmW is very short millimeter waves meaning thee user has to be very close to the target, then T-84 super tank of Nigeria has remote control anti-aircraft gun guided by sensors, rangefinders, and optics, it automatically fires on enemy aircraft, and any Rooivalk that comes close will be sh.ot down immediately !

Then your Rooivalk risks to comes close to our T-84 tank ? Nigerian army air defenses are there with newly arrived and currently in-service shilka AAA, Type 90 AAA, and Roland SAM.....ALL South African Rooivalk heicopters will be eaten up by Nigerian Roland missiles....and you no helicopter gunships anymore...$40 million x 10 = $400 million wasted in 5 minutes grin grin

Even if you fly Hawk jets, we will sh.oot them all down ! Nigeria too has an air force so come and taste out PL-9C air to air missiles !

ALL South African Mokopa and Ingwe anti-tank missiles are ONLY laser guided and will be jammed by ordinary smoke, not to even mention Nigeria's T-84 special Varta Optronics Super Jammers !

We drive T-84 Oplots unstoppable from Cape Town to Pretoria, destroying everything called South African army as we colonize you grin grin

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
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[size=16pt] Nigerian army special forces k.illed 'Shekau II' in battle this month

The man that kidnapped 200 Chibok girls got one bullet in the head from Nigerian army the best and most experienced in Africa today 2014

We are the best shooters in the world, no wasting of bullets.

Naija boasts of battle photos NOT home training photos of jobless SANDF

Wow ! Boko Haram fighters fleeing into Cameroon !

Shame on all South Africans including Jacob Zuma the ungrateful ANC man !

Oh ! Shame on all those who mocked Nigeria, God has turned against you all to shame you

Museveni of Uganda, the Kenyans and Ghanaians who mocked the gentle giant Nigeria, shame on you all tongue tongue tongue tongue

Naija Ninja army accurately shot a b.ullet in his forehead and threw him out of his Mowag APC ! Ah Naija !

Nigerian army proved to be the most deadly in Africa !

South African army of Cowards, go back to fight Seleka Rebels or you are NOT sons of your fathers and Nigerian army is your lord and master ! tongue tongue tongue

http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/22/military-says-boko-haram-commander-killed-konduga-resembles-shekau-release-details-soon/

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https://www.360nobs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/shekau-dead.jpg


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:03am On Sep 23, 2014
vdGeist: South Africa, Russia sign $10-billion nuclear power deal

South Africa signed a $10-billion (U.S.) nuclear power co-operation deal with Russia on Monday that paves the way for the building of up to 9.6 GW of nuclear power based on Russian technology by 2030, both sides said.
Nigeria signed for a big Nuclear project with Russia since 2011 and we have made progress, South Africa is behind Nigeria in MODERN not OLD 1980s nuclear reactor program.

http://voiceofrussia.com/2011/08/07/54312600/

South Africans, come back and talk to us in year 2050 when your nuclear plant foundation has been laid grin
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:50am On Sep 23, 2014
vdGeist: kikikikikikikiki, actually I'm currently in Nigeria with my dad. .
So what? Makes you a saint? Prove that you are in Nigeria
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:50pm On Sep 22, 2014
FighterPilot: MOKOPA WILL PENETRATE RHA, COMPOSITE AND ALL KINDS OF ERA. MOKOPA IS NOT JUST AN ORDINARY ANTI-ARMOUR ROUND OR ROCKET. IT IS A MISSILE THAT WILL DESTROY ANYTHING BEFORE IT. THAT IS ONE THING THAT THE LIKES OF @AGAUGUST FIND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

INGWE CANNOT BE JAMMED, EVEN AMERICA WITH ALL ITS TECHNOLOGY CAN NEVER JAM INGWE. NEVER!! NEVER!! NEVER!!
Desperate. Afraid. Confused. Defeated. That is what impenetrable T-84 tank of Nigerian army has made South Africans to become. Enjoy this new nightmare shocked shocked shocked

http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo


https://www.xactscale.com/images/T-84M_box500.jpg
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:48pm On Sep 22, 2014
FighterPilot: BOY, LET THE MERCY OF GOD BE WITH YOU. MOKOPA AND INGWE WILL PARALYSE THAT TANK BEYOND RECOGNITION. THE TANK WAS ONLY MADE STRONG TO PROTECT THE DRIVER, BUT THE FACT REMAINS, ONCE HIT BY MOKOPA OR INGWE IT WILL BE PARALYSED. IT WILL BE RENDERED AS GOOD AS A WRECKAGE. MOKOPA AND INGWE IS NOT JUST AN ORDINARY RPG, IT WILL AMPUTATE THE LEGS OF THAT T-84 TANK LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS. WE WILL THEREAFTER CONFISCATE ALL OF THEM, REPAIR THEM AND PLACE THEM IN OUR WAR MUSEUM AS OUR TROPHIES.
patches689: Amor stats of T-84 Oplot against ATGM's have been posted

we can penetrate it -hull armor against ATGM attacks falls well short of our penetration abilities

and there is nothing on earth that can defend against milimeter-band radar

Close range attacks with Ingwe and Milan will give your crew no time to react and defend themselves
Fool grin grin

South African Ingwe and Mokopa anti-tank guided missiles are NOT guided by radar ! They are laser guided !

Remember I warned you guys months ago about the weakness of your ATGM Ingwe, now you see what I mean !

Nigeria's T-84 Oplot tank will disable all your missile laser guidance systems and jam every other type of guidance ATGM systems :

"T-84 Oplot features a Varta Optronic Counter-Measures system for deceiving incoming missiles and anti-tank guided weapons. The system integrates laser warning sensors, infra-red jammer and smoke / aerosol screen laying system. The Optronic Counter-Measure system provides:

confusing of the guidance systems of ATGM by putting out laser jamming of the ATGM guidance systems that use laser illumination of targets, semi-automatic laser guided homing projectiles as well as artillery systems equipped with laser range-finders by activating the remote fast-deploying aerosol screens."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-84

ALL South African army men and equipment will be deleted from planet earth by Nigeria !


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