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MikeZA: Meaning you've no surveillance equipment "Teh regionel powa can't even protert her neighbours". How many foreign armies are massing around Nigeria?

Poooh ! It is South Africa that we all know to have NO SINGLE dedicated ISTAR aircraft. Nigeria has 2 + 7 incoming ATR-42 ISR, and some Beechcraft ISTAR. South Africa is still praying and fasting to buy even one

Britain, Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, France, all have no news of any Tornado jet in west Africa, journalists are free to write their dreams.

#ShowUS BritishTornado Jet InNigeria Or Neighbouring Country
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patches689: Hind performs poorly in a comparison of performance - I made a post on the topic a while back

Furthermore, it carrys less munitions than the rooivalk and the munitions it carries are inferior

The fact that it carries men, makes it aucx bigger target

And let's not even talk about its maneuverability - it can't hover for sh1t and hovering is important for an attack helicopter

Your opinion is NOT fact !

The truth is actually the opposite, I HAVE sources that clearly proves the Hind carries more load, has better guided weapons, and it's avionics/extra hardware performance is equal to the Rooivalk.

Weekend, I will post NAF Hind E Vs SAAF Rooivalk with reputable sources. The Hind is technically superior !

Hind does not carry soldiers all the time, it is an option only in assault or logistics role. When in attack role it carries no soldiers.

Maneuverability, are helicopters doing air to air dogfight like air superiority jet aircraft?

You must be craaaaaaazy !
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FighterPilot: YOU'RE SUCH A DREAMER!!! WHY CANT YOU BRING AN OFFICIAL THALES WEBSITE? ARE YOU AFRAID THAT IT IS GOING TO PROVE YOU WRONG? ]

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No, you are the one that is afraid to bring Thales official website that shows data of both Starstreak I and II versions for us to compare.

Now I have posted it below directly from the Thales Manufacturer's official website in Britain, they confess that the old version I used by South Africa has a bad altitude-ceiling and they had to do major improvements in version II that you don't have

"Starstreak II is an evolution of the in-service Starstreak I High Velocity Missile which was designed to provide close air defence against conventional air threats. Thales has addressed the needs of military users around the world and introduced major improvements to provide increased range beyond 7 km, increased coverage and altitude and improved guidance precision against small targets."

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/Thales%20HVMII%2011_10.pdf

You want to claim data of improved version II and use it for South Africa's inferior version I, when you bought version I in 2010 and version II was still not in service until 2013, now you are the daydreamer with constant w.et d.reams !

Meanwhile, Togo Republic will use ordinary Alpha jets to R.ape the whole South Africa army while Nigerian army watches and refuses to save you from the rampaging Togolese Alpha jets screwing up South African army in d.oggy s.style
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PHOTO : Tiny Togo Republic's Alpha Jets Able To D.estroy South African Army

https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Forum%20stuff/AlphaJetE.jpg

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MikeZA: The frigates can stop missiles. That's what matters. Besides no country in sub-saharan Africa can challenge SA at sea. The Nigerian navy has no CIWS,NO AIR DEFENCE MISSILES TOGO can sink all your vessels with Alpha jets!!! All in one day. #AugubugubuTypeArgument

Togo is 5 minutes flight away from Nigeria, our F-7 jets will turn Togolese Alpha jets to twisted metal junk in 1 minute.

Togo won't even try Nigeria, the anti-aircraft guns 40mm on many of our ships have ceiling of 4km and Centenary AK 176 gun has ceiling range up to 11km with perfect radar guidance, our Aspide SAM is a BVR missile.

Show me how your Valour frigate will stop a sea skimming exocet missile without CIWS. Sub-Saharan pirates have defeated your submarine navy in Angola and Mozambique where you patrol everyday for years and you never caught a pirate, even fish or crab your Valour Failure Frigates could not catch

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MikeZA: Better!!!!!! Range is dependant on type of ammunition. The only question you should answer is: what makes you think 32 years old missiles are still active.

....because some missiles can last 45 years, Morocco just bought 1980s generation old Exocet missiles from France few years ago.

South Africa is technologically behind Europe and America, @Andrewza spent 5 days like a fool arguing with me saying Nigerian Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft has no FLIR because he did not see it in all photos until I showed him a source proving that the modern design is retractable FLIR, since then shame has not allowed him to stay half an hour on this forum....he's still somewhere licking his bleeding wounds like a typical South African mofo

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MikeZA: Prove it. The Y3 is way better. 1. From targeting and operational usage. 2. Rate of fire 3. Range

I have asked you to post range of your old cargo 1997 Denel Y3 AGL since 5 days ago. I repeated the same question 5 times in 5 days but shame and fear will not let you reply
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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS NIGERIAN ARMY USES THE CHINESE Y3 AGL COMPARE THE TWO GRENADE LAUNCHERS OF THE CHINESE AND SOUTH AFRICAN ...IS SHORTER RANGE BY 100 METRES BUT THE OVERALL SUPERIORITY FALLS WITH SOUTH AFRICAN UNLESS YOU ARE BIASED

No, yours is old . Y3 is a 1997 product, see how overweight and cumbersome-heavy it is, and needs 3 men to operate.

Show me source of your Y3 maximum effective range.

Our own LG3 is new, a 2008 product with better design for easy use in battlefield.

Denel Y3 is old cargo
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Thiza: DENEL Y3 AGL FAR MORE SUPERIOR TO THOSE USED BY NIGERIA
UGUSTUS SHOW US THE NIGERIAN AGL THAT MATCHES THE SAME COMBAT CHARACTERISTICS
https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDenel_Y3_AGL&ei=tNoRVOniDZLA7AaQh4HQBg&usg=AFQjCNGlqVpoWlmnUbyslrkv0BFlJY1uwg

The SANDF Y3 AGL effective range is shorter than that of Nigeria's LG3 AGL
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MikeZA: The Rooivalk doesn't cost $40 mil. They perform a wide range tasks like 1. Deep penetration 2. Interdiction 3. Armed escort 4. Reconnaissance 5. Anti-armour 6. Close air support And a lot. Countries like Algeria and Russia are replacing the hind,with the more modern MI-28. India is buying the Apache!!!

Yes, nobody is buying your single role Rooivalk.

Use your Rooivalk to carry soldiers and weapons for us to see

Foolish Soweto Helicopter...poor value for money
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MikeZA: Not even close. Range is dependent on the type of ammunition used. :

If you don't post the Y3 AGL range here for various types of ammunition as you claim, then it means you are afraid because the Nigerian LG3 AGL has superior maximum effective range.

Good to see you eat the humble pie on range everytime you SA guys challenge Nigeria
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FighterPilot: Thales, the company that hold intellectual rights of starstreek missiles put the range at 7000m which completely contradict your unofficial source. So, who is right now? Your source or that of manufacturers.]

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That is Starstreak Version II extended range you dummy

Post it here, sure it's NOT Starstreak I data.

South Africa bought ONLY Starstreak version I in year 2010.

The Starstreak version II is for Britain with extended range and was not even yet in service as at year 2013.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/

The British army that ordered the missile built have declared Starstreak version I missile range as 5.5km and ceiling 1km, the British are not dull brains like you Soweto breed M.oro.ns

Sorry we have to allow Togo's air force to continue R.aping South African army, Nigerian army will not help you with our Roland SAM today, try your luck next time after Togo republic has finished disgracing SANDF

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FighterPilot: It doesn't matter whether your source is from Britain or not, but it is entirely not correct and is misleading. It will also be disputed by the manufacturers. I reiterate, starstreek will strike any aircraft flying below the altitude of 5000m. That source of yours will only land you in hot water my friend. YOU WILL DIEEEEEEE!!!!!

THIS IS UK SOURCE.

http://www.eliteukforces.info/weapons/starstreak-hvm/

Bwahahaha

That is a private website written by one ignorant Mister Nobody who did not use common sense to indicate that his data is for the new version Starstreak II that South Africa does NOT have.

See his data puts speed at mach 3.5 instead of mach 3, and puts range at 7km instead of 5.5km....clearly he was posting Starstreak version II data.....SANDF has only version I with less capability.

My own source is NOT private, it is OFFICIAL website of the British army that the missile was built for.

Me too can go do private website and post rubbish data there.

Your British maters who sold the starstreak missile to you have OFFICIALLY declared its maximum ceiling altitude is ONLY 1km...

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

Togo's Alpha jets will be R.aping the defenseless South African army from the air.....using d.oggy style

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FighterPilot: Thales Air Defence does not agree with your source.

The fact is at 5000m, starstreek will still be able to hit you and crash you to the ground with its dart. FACT™

The correct and accurate source.

http://www.armedforces-int.com/projects/starstreak_missile_system.html

[size=14pt]Hey dude ! My source is the British Army Official website, the British built the Starstreak missile, own it, use it, know it perfectly !

Every other sources is NOT reliable if it contradicts the British Army official data spcecifications.

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

Starstreak I version has maximum altitude of 1,000 meters = 1 km only

Proved by your own British masters that sold the missile to South Africa !
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patches689: You keep saying it's better but you have not shown us why or how

Come now, show us facts and figures

and it's popular because it's cheap, and poor countries like Nigeria can only afford them

Rich countries buy the Mi-24/35 Hind, countries far richer than South Africa, countries that can buy 100 units of Rooivalk that South Africa can only afford 12 units, yet those countries refuse to buy your bad Rooivalk fat turkey, they buy the Mi-24/35 Hind, rich countries like...

Brazil
Iraq
Inida
Algeria
Czec Republic
Indonesia
Poland
Nigeria
Equatorial Guinea
Venezuela

Many oil and gas rich nations of the world buy the Mi-35 Hind !


I have a clear analysis of Rooivalk Vs Hind capacility , I leave it for weekend when I have more time to list it all out with sources.

Best in Africa Mi-35M Hind E of NAF is far superior to SAAF Rooivalk, you guys got a bad helicopter !
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patches689: What a complete load of rubbish

AHRLAC a copy of an American aircraft? Please show us the aircraft it is a copy of

I have warned you not to let me spill the beans on your AHRLAC copy copy, I have photos and weblinks, it is the copy of home made American aircraft, very very clear copy....I leave that till weekend, let me not f.i.nnish South Africa in one day

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patches689: Startstreak is part of the GBADS program

It has a role within the larger air defence network, it fills the SHORAD role, the guns being upgraded will fill the CRAM role and the umk missiles will fill the strategic air defence role

South Africa has NO single GBADS or SHORAD sytems today 2014, you will wait till 2017 before it is in service, and it is almost sure it will be year 2020 or even later, SANDF is cash broke, all new purchases of equipment is cancelled till further notice !

South Africa has NO single CRAM capability, you have NO AHEAD ammunition, Valour Frigate CIWS cannot stop missiles !

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patches689: Startstreak is part of the GBADS program

It has a role within the larger air defence network, it fills the SHORAD role, the guns being upgraded will fill the CRAM role and the umk missiles will fill the strategic air defence role

Once the final stage of the project is completed we will have the most advanced and integrated air defence network in Africa


And btw, Togo can also fly over your Roland's and blow Lagos back into the Stone Age (which would be an improvement for Lagos)

No Togo's Alpha jet will be sh.ot down by Nigerian Roland missiles, the Togolese Alpha jet Rockets has range of only 3km, so the pilot has to descend to low altitude 3km to launch rockets but Roland SAM will reach altitude of 5.5km.....Nigeria will wipe out Togo's air force.

Togo's Alpha jets will R.ape the whole South African army in freestyle
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patches689: What a complete load of rubbish

The g5 and g6 are South African through and through- the barrow were designed by a Canadian in South Africa

Rooivalk a copy of a havoc? Ludicrous!!

Rooivalk engine French? So what?

So, feel free to show us something we copied and then we can continue this discussion. Until then bite your tongue

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Rooivalk Gun is French

Rooivalk Engine is French

Rooivalk Interior mechanics is reverse engineered copy of French Puma

Rooivalk Exterior is Copy of Russian Mi-28 Havoc

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Rooivalk has French gun, the most important weapon on Rooivalk is the 20mm gun/cannon French GIAT gun imported from France !

Also the Rooivalk interior mechanics from rotor to engine is a FULL SCALE COPY REVERSE ENGINEERING of French Puma helicopter, you accuse China of copying, South Africa does the same thing

"Although it looks like an entirely new machine, the Rooivalk is based on a degree of reverse engineering of the Aerospatiale Puma, using the same engines (albeit in slightly uprated form) and main rotor"

http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/denel_ah2_rooivalk.htm

South Africa is a thief

PHOTO 1 : Russian Mi-28 Havoc Helicopter designed many years before Rooivalk

PHOTO 2 : South African Rooivalk Helicopter design CONCEPT copied from Russian Rooivalk
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patches689: What a complete load of rubbish

The g5 and g6 are South African through and through- the barrow were designed by a Canadian in South Africa

The G5 and G6 artillery guns were designed by a Canadian NOT inside South Africa, he made his designs in North America and partly in Iraq, DENEL South Africa purchased the whole design ready made, the 50 million South Africans even if you superglue your brains together, you cannot design G5 and G6 long range artillery in 1,000 years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull

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Nigerian Army busy fighting 4 year war.....

South African army busy R.aping female soldiers into pregnancy !

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The South African National Defense Force – A Military in Freefall
Despite an eagerness to use the South African National Defense Force (SANDF) as a means of projecting the nation’s influence abroad, there is evidence that South Africa’s government has so neglected or mismanaged its military assets that it may soon be unable to defend itself, much less engage in international adventures.

Last year, Roelf Meyer, the chairman of South Africa’s defense review committee, identified a number of strategic goals for the SANDF, including:

· Maintaining the security of South Africa’s borders;

· Promoting peace and security in Africa;

· Assisting civil authorities in policing or anti-poaching efforts;

· Establishing South Africa as a responsible leading member of the African Union;

· Responding to new regional threats such as piracy (Business Day [Johannesburg], April 13, 2012).

However, with a reduced force size and inadequate resources, the SANDF will soon have difficulty meeting most of these goals.



Life in the South African military is not seen as desirable by many potential recruits. Pay can be erratic, HIV rates are as high as 25% (making these troops unavailable for external deployment) and an estimated 35% of South Africa’s military barracks have been classed as unfit for human occupation since 2007 (Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament’s Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described R.ape of women in the SANDF as “common,” adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011).



Racial abuse of black subordinates by white senior officers also remains a problem 19 years into the integration process. South African troops are unionized and have at times clashed with police during pay disputes.

With the 2012 defense budget of $3.8 billion still far below the 2 percent of GDP required to maintain the armed forces, the South African defense department began looking at other ways of generating income, including contracting out soldiers to municipalities to do various labor and infrastructure repair projects. The department also created the Defense Estate Management agency to lease or sell-off defense department lands. Much of the land owned by the SANDF came by way of British government endowments of military facilities made on the condition that they could only be used for defense purposes

Politicization of the military is still a problem in South Africa. There has been speculation that the current chief of the SANDF, Angolan-trained Lieutenant General Solly Zacharia Shoke, received his appointment as a result of his history as a commander in Umkhonto we Sizwe, the ANC’s military wing (SAPA, May 11, 2011). Umkhonto we Sizwe forces were integrated into the newly formed SANDF between 1994 and 2004. An investigative commission recently declared that the SANDF was too politicized, a situation typified by former Defense Minister Lindiwe Sisulu’s preference for wearing SANDF uniforms at public occasions

A sometimes unaccountable procurement process remains a problem for the South African military; last year the political opposition revealed over $7.75 billion had passed through a defense department slush fund that had failed to reveal to parliament how the money had been spent (Johannesburg Times, April 18, 2012). The army has been overlooked in recent acquisition programs and is close to finding itself equipped with obsolete equipment in terms of armored personnel carriers, logistics vehicles and main battle tanks

South Africa’s once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as “a staggering waste of money”

While government ministers travel in luxury, the South African Air Force (SAAF) still transports troops in 70-year-old Dakota aircraft. One of these, a Dakota C47TP (an upgraded DC-3 with turbine engines) crashed, claiming 11 lives when it was unable to fly above inclement weather. The crash came shortly after the military decided it could no longer afford a maintenance contract for its military aircraft (SAPA, December 6, 2012; Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). World War II-era Dakotas also continue to be used for surveillance of South Africa’s 3,900 kilometer coastline in the absence of modern surveillance aircraft. Meanwhile, 26 new Swedish-built Gripen fighter-jets, purchased at a cost of R10 billion (approximately $1 billion), average only two hours in the air each week; not enough to keep the machines in operable condition and far from the 10 hours of flight-time each week considered necessary to keep pilots well-trained

Former SAAF chief Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2012 after trying to resign in late 2011 during his hospitalization for stress as he continued to try unsuccessfully to find enough money for the fuel and maintenance to keep the SAAF in the air. His successor, Lieutenant General Fabian Zimpande Msimang (the first black chief of the SAAF) will have trouble keeping all but executive travel jets in the air if current funding problems continue

The once formidable South African navy now spends little time at sea. Replacement parts and maintenance budgets barely exist, leaving only one of the navy’s four new frigates operational and only one its four new submarines able to put out to sea (Sunday Times [Johannesburg], December 10, 2012). South African Navy ships and SAAF aircraft carry out anti-piracy operations in the Mozambique Channel, though this mission is also threatened by underfunding.

Despite economic troubles and a collapsing military, South Africa still desires to be a major player in Africa, which encourages it to commit to missions that stretch the military’s capacity to its breaking point. Unless current trends are reversed, the steady transformation of the SANDF into an assembly of riot police and border guards will be completed in just a few years. Geography and reputation have left South Africa with few external enemies, but it is also extremely wealthy in various resources. South Africa was only cobbled together from various constituent parts a little more than a century ago, and it would not be surprising if a general collapse of South Africa’s security infrastructure invited the emergence of secessionist movements drawing on both domestic and external inspiration. South Africa’s eventual inability to project force beyond its borders will also have important implications for regional security in sub-Saharan Africa.

This report was compiled by JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION and cited from “Terrorism Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 2″

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MikeZA: Layered air defence. Sensors are able to warn ground forces about incoming enemy planes. Counter-air by Gripens against an Alpha will like helicopter vs jet fight. Angola,Cuba and Soviet blog pilots failed to find and destroy SA artillery in real conventional war.

Depends on where your army is fighting.

If SANDF had landed in Ivory Coast when your ship arrived, ECOWAS will send ordinary Togo to wipe out your whole battalion with Alpha jets R.aping your defenceless army from the air
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MikeZA: Only America operates the F-22 stealth air superiority fighter. The best in the world. Sells don't reflect performance and how advance a system is.

American government law forbids the sale of F-22 jets to any other country including NATO allies
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MikeZA: The Rooivalk is designed to carry 16 Mokopa missiles,a South African equivalent(better) of the US HELLFIRE. Nigeria doesn't have the money.

The whole world followed Nigeria to reject a $40 million helicopter that performs only one single role. The world and Nigeria purchased almost 2,500 Hind helicopters that performs four different roles for $20 million, simple common sense
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MikeZA: 1. They aren't well trained,your marksmanship claim invalid. 2. That's machine gun and it is belt fed used a SAW. 3. Your troops carry their 150 bullets and don't have vehicles? What vehicles are you talking about?

Your cowardly country South Africa has zero war experience fighting alone in the past 20 years. Your SANDF knows NOTHING about modern day 2000 new millenium warfare.

So when South African army goes into modern day 2014 battle with 30,000 men in one single battle theater, come back and talk about number of bullets a Soldier should carry.

Keep your textbook theories to yourself, Nigerian army doctrine is based on almost 25 years of constant non-stop war experience in different parts of Africa.

South African army is far below our class, go ask the AU that made a Nigerian Brigadier-General your boss
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Thiza: Rhino poachers in South Africa now risk giving themselves away when they shoot thanks to a high-tech, gunfire-detection system being piloted in the country's flagship Kruger National Park.

Too late !

Rhino poachers have already defeated SANDF in your own homeland bush Kruger Park

Jacob Zuma was on his knees begging Botswana to allow SANDF run away with your Rhinos and hide them inside Botswana bush where they have a better army, and Botswana has agreed to show mercy on your helpless and beaten South Africa.

After that, massive retrenchment of the failed SANDF begins by new government order, no more salaries for jobless South African military
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MikeZA: Not even close. Range is dependent of ammunition type. Augubugubu is angry that Mike..ZA won't slip into his ambush tactics.

You are afraid to answer my simple question....what is the maximum effective range of DENEL Y3 Auto Grenade Launcher?

ALL 50 million South Afriican cowards are afraid of ambush by one single Nigerian laying ambush for them.

ANC Kingdom of cowards
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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS THE CRY BABY....SORRY AS THERE IS NO SHORT CUT TO OVERTAKE SOUTH AFRICA IN ANY STANDARD, QUALITY, DEVELOPMENT, MILITARY, ECONOMIC AND MARKETING STRATEGY....CONTINUE TO CRY BUT NOW NAIRAS ARE STARTING TO TAKE NOTE OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN WEAPONS.....CRY UNTIL YOU ARE BLUE THAT WONT TAKE AWAY THE DESIGNER LABEL THAT SOUTH AFRICAN WEAPONS CARRY....SHOW CASE YOUR PRODUCTS POSSIBLE SOUTH AFRICANS WOULD TAKE NOTE AND OBSERVE, HOWEVER...CONTINUE CRYING FOR NOT BEING THE BEST

He does not know that the NAF Mi-35M hind is far superior in weapons to the Rooivalk. I don't blame him for his innocent comment, not everyone is military expert.

Why did 30 countries buy almost 2,500 units of Mi-24/35 Hind and in the whole world only 1 country bought 12 units of Rooivalk ? The world is wiser than South Africa, and Nigeria will not join South Africa to make 2 fools flying the Rooivalk turkey that has no future

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FighterPilot: .The SANDF starstreek that I know has a max ceiling of 6000 m (6km) and effective range of 7 km.

No ! I posted that and proved it several times last year.

South Africa has ONLY Starstreak I version and the maximum ceiling is ONLY 1km high, stupiid anti-aircraft missile.

Togo republic will use Alpha jets to R.ape the whole South African army and destroy all your G-6 Rhono artillery in one day

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23273.aspx

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patches689: .

Looks like a Nornico LG3

It's hard to tell- Chinese copy everything

South Africans copy everything.

R4 rifle is a copy of Israeli Galil

G5 artillery is a copy of Canadian owned design

G6 artillery is a copy of a Canadian product

Badger IFV is a copy of Finland's Patria IFV

Rooivalk exterior design is a copy of Russian Havoc

Rooivalk interior rotor and engine compartment system is a FULL SCALE REVERSE ENGINEERING COPY OF French Puma

AHRLAC is a total copy of an American home made aircraft!

Only God knows how many things South Africa has copied if we investigate to the root !

Who is ARAM LTD ? They own the full design and technology of DENEL Y3 Auto Grenade Launcher. Who is ARAM LTD ? I am still investigating
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I personally avoid long comments on this thread because it is a photo thread, but I CANNOT overlook this so that somebody somewhere will not confuse Nigerians about the weapons we need in Boko Haram war and why we need them in large numbers.

MikeZA: Nope. If a platoon needed such capability it can be attached to the platoon from support units,if it was standardised in the army. Some people go as far as demanding each soldier should have a radio,whom is he going to call? The section leader?

ALL your arguments about Automatic Grenade Launchers and radio are very wrong in modern warfare, the British army learnt this lesson in Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Correct your errors please.

Every Boko Haram or ISIS terrorist Platoon of 4 vehicles on attack mission have a 14.5mm or 23mm long range infantry weapon with 3km effective range.

How will a platoon of Nigeria army defend itself from the above with Browning gun 1.5km effective range?

COIN war is a game of infantry firpower and need to survive when insurgents suddenly appear from among civilians and heavily outnumber an army platoon, the only mass k.iller weapon option for the army is a 2km range Automatic Grenade Launcher that can k.ill or injure 5 enemies at a time or knock out enemy Toyota 4x4 AAA gun truck with one direct shot on target.

Also, AGL is a secondary role 40mm mortar weapon for area denial or area firepower against a spread out enemy that outnumbers the army.

COIN war is NOT same as conventional war, experience has taught Nigeria big lessons, every 12 soldiers need a MGL, every 40 soldiers need an AGL, or else surprise swarms of Boko Haram Toyota Technicals with twin 14.5mm or 23mm heavy guns mounted on trucks will wipe out an army platoon in a matter of minutes !

An army of 40 soldiers platoon will have about 4 vehicles and can mount 3 with Browning or DshK machine guns and the last 1 vehicle with Automatic Grenade Launcher.

Army platoon of 40 men defending a location or area can fortify with sandbags and mount a tripod stand Automatic Grenade Launcher to knock out approaching enemy invasion vehicles from 2km away.

The army platoon of 40 men can also dig in trench and use their Automatic Grenade Launcher as a mini- Mortar by elevating the barrel and rain high explosives on an area to deny enemy access.

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"The Personal Role Radio (PRR) is a small transmitter-receiver that allows infantry soldiers to communicate over short distances.

PRR is issued to every member of an eight-strong infantry section"

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/23213.aspx


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AGL with over 2.2km effective range is Nigerian army`s infantry answer to Boko Haram 14.5mm 3km effective range AAA

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