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andrewza: You said that the reason NATO used HEAT to on there tanks and not HE was because they 105mm, not 155mm. We told you that that is wrong the most common NATO tank gun is 120mm. This has now been proven.Show me where I said Palmaria is an Anti-Tank system, show me. I said Palmaria can do direct fire because it is built with special direct fire system and can d.estroy a tank with a 155mm gun shell 12kg of TNT high explosives double of an anti-tank mine. RPGs have s.h.ot down helicopters, if I say that, does it mean I have said RPG is an anti-aircraft system? You will score 3% not even 33%, if you write exam in Nigeria! . |
agaugust: [size=10pt]Dude, all you know about military stuff is just what you google today. I look at the far past, near history or records and today, plus the future.That is a 100% copy of what I posted yesterday, the bold font was my original argument before you Retaarded South Africans twisted it because your weak brains CANNOT stay focused on subject matter, reason why you fail exams in your country and your foolish educational system keeps prompting you all to the next higher class when you score 33%. Nation of fools ![]() . |
andrewza: there is no law stopping us from making spar parts. and the one remaining dauphine can sail, though I would not risk a dive to crush depth.I started the argument and my subject matter was NATO production, not numbers in service, you did not start the topic, so don't try tell me what the topic is, that's how you fail exams, you know the question more than the examiner who set or drafted the questions. Foolishness. Most of the 3,500 AMX-30 tanks with 105mm guns were produced by France, less than 900 tanks with 120mm guns were produced by France. My very first source and argument was manufacture NOT in service. Don't teach me about what I started with my own head, I didn't borrow yours. |
andrewza: your own source says former operator. SA was a former operator of the Daphne submarine, do we still have them? No other than 1.South Africa is not France, you don't manufacture Daphne submarines and you cannot do whatever you want to do with them, you don't even have spare parts production. France produces AMX-30 tanks, and only a dunce like you will say a whole France cannot bring her AMX-30 tanks into action because French engineers cannot start the engine. Then you don't know how to make intelligent argument, the subject matter is about what NATO manufactured in total NOT what is on front line service or what's on reserves/storage. You people just argue out of context and then try to save your ugly faces after you are proved wrong. I am not surprised anyway, a whole South African army General failed military exams and keeps getting promotion to command your army, the dude was making arguments off topic and quoting out of context in his military academy exams, that's why he failed. All South Africans are fools because intelligence is a very scarce commodity in your m.entally backward country that celebrates failures ![]() . |
andrewza: no you stupiid rettard they do not have any amx30s until proven other wise.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-30 France has 1,355 AMX-30 tanks with 105mm gun still existing inside French army amoury, they did not transfer them to South Africa...you are confirmed to be a 100% incurable Retaard ! . |
andrewza: no I need proof they in storage, storage is not cheap by the way.You lost the root of the whole argument. Topic is, NATO has more 105mm tanks than 120mm tanks manufactured, it's not argument about tanks in frontline service or reserves/storage. I don't care what's in reserve or frontline, France has 1,355 tanks with 105mm gun, but only 400 tanks with 120mm gun. My argument stands on the original subject matter....you have gone off topic to save your faces from defeat. NATO manufactured more 105mm tanks than 120mm. Proved beyond doubt . |
andrewza: that because they in storage, not reserve or stragic reserve or any thing like that, they set in the desert and get zero love. It would take a lot of cash to bring them up to operational level.You need a source to prove that 1,355 AMX 30 tanks of France are not in storage, that they were thrown to garbage dump. Sources say not frontline service, not that they are useless and thrown out of amoury into the garbage dump. South Africa has only 2 G-6 artilley in service according do defenceweb, means the remaining 41 units are dumped into garbage bin? You think at all? |
MikeZA: Ooh yeah? NATO main battle tanks use 120mm gun. Name operational NATO main battle tank that uses a 105 gun.Greece and Turkey have thousands of 105mm gun tanks as MBT FULLY OPERATIONAL today 2014. I posted clear proof this afternoon, are you blind? . |
andrewza: belguim 50 leo 1s 105mm, to be phased out of severs so in fact it is zeroAmerica has 2,385 M1 Abrams tanks in storage with 105mm guns, that is missing on your list... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_United_States_Army#Vehicles France has 1,355 AMX 30 tanks with 105mm gun in storage, that too is missing on your list. You can show us source that all the thousands of 105mm tanks in NATO armory have vanished into thin air one cold windy morning! Let Russia attack NATO today with full tank force and you will see NATO 105mm tanks come out of storage. Those are called reserve forces. Are you in the Navy or you are a fake? LOL ! . |
patches689: Former Operators: FranceMumu ![]() The 2,385 M1 Abrams tank reserved in American storage that you admitted to exist, proves to you NATO keeps all its larger force of 105mm gun tanks in storage. You think France's 1,355 AMX-30 tanks vanished into thin air? They are in storage. Let Russia attack France today and see if France will not open storage and bring out from its largest force of 1,355 AMX tanks. You may be the only fool that will go to big war with only 400 tanks of 120mm when your enemy has 2,000 T-72 tanks. Mumu, you don't know how military weapons reserve forces work ![]() . |
patches689: 2,385 M1 in storageYou said France has 400 tanks all 120mm guns, but France also has 1,355 AMX 30 tanks with 105mm guns ! All South Africans are fools ![]() http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-30 The larger number of tanks in all 28 NATO countries have 105mm guns....all @Patches claims and data are totally wrong. That's why you remain our Nairaland resident Dumbo Domingo ![]() . |
MikeZA: I believe pat!!! American new tanks use the standard NATO 120mm gun.LOL ! I don't mind crowning 10 people as joint fools as long as they are all South Africans. @Patches told a big lie that all American tanks are 120mm gun, but when I bursted his blue balls and he couldn't bear the pain he confessed that there are 2,385 American tanks with 105mm guns. There are 28 Countries in NATO and he counted only 8. The 20 countries he avoided have thousands of tanks with 105mm guns. The ones counted have thousands of tanks with 105mm guns in storage including France that has lots of AMX 30 tanks with 105mm guns he did not count. His data is very wrong, France does not have all tanks 120mm guns, AMX 30 started as 105mm, he ran away from that. He said France has 400 tanks all 120mm guns, but France also has 1,355 AMX 30 tanks with 105mm guns ! All South Africans are fools ![]() http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-30 No country's tank force is limited to frontline service, when war comes they bring out tanks from storage like Nigeria is now using T-55 tanks they never showed us on army day parades until war came. NATO 28 countries have more 105mm gun tanks than 120mm, you guys in Soweto box yourselves into tight corners and think you can tell lies to escape? No, before I let you go free, I squeeze your balls till you cry for help ![]() . |
patches689: 2,385 M1 in storageNobody believes you again @Patches, you have d.estroyed ALL your arguments by making a fraudulent claim that all 8,325 American tanks are 120mm guns, but now you say America has 2,385 tanks with 105mm guns after I fed your stomach full with humble pie until y.our belly bursted... Learn to respect Nigerians ! . |
patches689: There are 4 major NATO nations[size=14pt] LOL !!! I will d.estroy all that y.our long story garbage post with only one source. You say America has 8,325 tanks and all are 120mm gun. Sorry you ruined all your argument, America's tank force is M1 Abram tank series, and it is a mixture of both 105mm guns and 120mm. The largest numbers of M1 Abrams tanks were built in cold war and were almost all 105mm guns for that era of production. The M1 Abrams tanks with 105mm guns are still in American army today 2014. You just s.hot y.ourself in the h.ead with a 105mm tank gun ![]() http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams [/size] |
patches689: The Royal Ordnance L11A5 is a 120 mm L/55 rifled tank gun design. It was the first of NATO's 120mm tank guns which became the standard calibre for Western tanks in the later period of the Cold War. A total of 3,012 L11 guns were produced at a reported unit cost of US $227,000.[1]Standard, Poooooh ! Do you read my post well? Do you know English language? I said is it NATO standard rule that all 28 member must follow? Most NATO members dumped that your 'standard'...why is Germany building modern Leopard II tanks with 105mm guns against the 'standards'? Greece has today 2014, about 900 tanks with 105mm guns, but only about 400 tanks with 120mm guns. Greece, one of NATO's biggest armies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Hellenic_Army#Main_Battle_Tanks Don't make me post the thousands of 105mm gun tanks still in service with NATO's giant army of Turkey in 2014 Add up all 28 NATO countries tanks and over 50% as majority are 105mm guns. You cannot rewrite NATO production records of tanks, they have been manufactured already...You are a permanent Retaard ![]() PHOTO : ARMY OF GREECE IN NATO....TOTALS 900 TANKS WITH 105MM GUN, 400 TANKS WITH 120MM GUNS .
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patches689: The majority of operational NATO frontline tanks use 120mm.I have posted 3 sources 3 weblinks, you posted NO SOURCE, you are the one stuck in a hole. The argument was never about frontline tanks, but rather how many tanks they have with 105mm guns. I am the one who educated you further that NATO has both frontline tanks and reserve/storage tanks, you did not know that before. Show us source that says in NATO, 120mm tank gun is a standard , a rule all 28 NATO countries must follow. I just proved to you with a shocking source that even the modern Leopard II tanks have 105mm gun versions. Show us a source that says majority, over 50% of tanks built and existing in armoury of all NATO 28 countries have 120mm guns. You will need to personally enter all 28 NATO armies armoury and destroy all their 105mm gun tanks for you to win this argument. Alas ! You cannot rewrite NATO's manufacturing records. If you have no source, then you have to eat the next round of humble pie, this time I give you oven fresh baked...humble pie ! ![]() . |
.[size=14pt] South African special forces and 21 Battalion with air force support fail at home ! Civilian hunters defeat the highly photographed 'Bush War' experts in their homeland bush ! Government to RELOCATE Rhinos into hiding in Zambia ! Defeated by local hunter thieves... 'Famous' Special Forces and 21 Battalion South African army surrender... To Civilian local Rhino hunters Jacob Zuma seeks refuge for his Rhinos in Zambia... Botswana too will become South Africa's new saviour ! [/size] Pooooooh !! The whole nation, police and military of South Africa has failed to defeat hunters with rifles cutting horns off the heads of your precious Rhinos, so now South Africa has admitted defeat by RELOCATING THE RHINOS out of Kruger Park...Olodos http://news.wildlife.org/featured/south-africa-to-relocate-hundreds-of-rhinos/ Special Forces, Air force, and 21 Battalion deployed and fail.....Zambian and Botswana armies succeed ! http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm PHOTO : FAILED COMBINED FORCES OF SOUTH AFRICA WITH RHINO IN KRUGER PARK https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/JOINT/Rhino_horn_treatment_400x300.jpg . |
andrewza: Only nigerians doubt it. Funny hey.RFI France disagreed, Seleka Rebel commander of the battle disagreed, an African national diplomat openly disagreed. Only South Africans agree among themselves in joint national self deception and ego massaging war propaganda ![]() . |
andrewza: Last brit tank with a 105 was centurion. All no longer in useSame mistake like the other dude, NATO is 28 different countries, not just 3 Britain, Germany, France. My first source proved that the whole western world including built more 105mm tanks than 120mm, and thousands in storage. My second source proved Germany still built Leopard 2 tanks with both 105mm and 120mm guns . I have posted sources that spoke on the general trend in NATO, you guys just like to argue with truth after you box yourselves into tight corner with a lie ![]() . |
andrewza: and the big fights took place in the south, south east. That is forest and brush land.Brush land means dry grass land , NOT BUSH LAND, don't mix them up dude....and don't you dare argue Geography with a Nigerian. Brush is another name for scrub...and the trees are short, land is dry and solid. See photo below. I have posted a whole map of Angolan vegetation, it's mostly desert and scrub or brush (not bUsh...bRush), and dry deciduous forest which is a dry type of forest, with lots of spaces and dry land between the trees. Now stop twisting African Geography as seen in texbooks, maps, and photos of general area's not a selected small village that has mud or overgrown trees, there is mud in New York too, just drive into what we call back alley in spring season and you get thick mud because we don't cement back street alleys for residential estates with detached duplexes .
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patches689: [size=13pt][size=13pt]Dude, all you know about military stuff is just what you google today. I look at the far past, near history or records and today, plus the future. I did not say 105mm guns are NATO standard for tanks, I said they are mostly 105mm guns existing. I said it and I posted source to prove it, MOST NATO tanks from cold war era till today ever built, have 105mm guns, and the source said it is because 105mm gun was universal in the whole western world in cold war. Those guns are not thrown away, they are in reserve and still on thousands of NATO reserve tanks. You think NATO is just Britain , France , Germany? LOL, there are 28 countries in NATO ! Even the German Leopard tank has versions built with the 105mm gun, what NATO does is to allow 'SWAP' of 120mm guns on their tanks if they want it anytime. "The Leopard 2 tank thus initially used perforated armour, and not Chobham armour as is sometimes claimed. PT-14 used the 120 mm Rheinmetall gun (as eventually did the U.S. M1 Abrams). After this, two new prototype hulls and three turrets were ordered, one (PT-20) mounting the original L7A3 105 mm gun and a Hughes fire control system, a second (PT-19) with the same fire control system but able to "swap out" the gun for the 120 mm Rheinmetall design." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2 The largest number of tanks existing in frontline service or storage reserves in 28 countries of NATO have 105mm guns You remain Patrick, our resident Dumbo Domingo [/size]. |
patches689: There isnt much dry land and tarred road in AngolaEvery country has some mud here and there. Most of Angola is dry land as in SADC region. Dry land Namib desert in in Southern Angola. The biggest part of Angola from north to south is dry desert and dry deciduous grassland....see proof..... Nigerians know world geography, don't mess around with us Nigerians : [img]http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/angola_veg_1970.jpg[/img] .
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Msauza: Touch our beautiful people and you will see the sole of our shoesYes we all saw the sole of your soldier's shoes in Bangui when they took to their heels, ran straight to the arms of France your Big Daddy ![]() |
Msauza: I have said and I still say that Rhinos are not the area of responsibility of defence. Touch our beautiful people and you will see the sole of our shoesSeleka rebels touched your beautiful hollywood army and slaughtered 15 to 50 of them, wetin you do? Nothing ? You could not go back there ![]() |
Msauza: The fact is they are not human and they are not the area of defence but conservation.Mozambique's hunters are invading your over-rated country and your 'famous' special forces bush war experts cannot stop them in your own home land bush. End of discussion. Gbam ! ![]() Next topic please.. |
Msauza: Is good that is Rhinos (animals) not human as in the case in Nigeria.If Rhinos have no value to SA, why do you send elite special forces and air force of SANDF to get k.illed trying to save animals ? |
zaandrew: Yep. Difrince is your averge paching party is 3 maybe 4 guys who get in and out. They all so operating in eastern kruger park. There is nothing there no roads no nothing. We all so have under 1000 to patrol the area the size of israle. And we have been catching poachers but it is a hard battel. Rhino horn is worth more than gold so it is not hard for the poaching sydcits to hire more guns.Which one is easier? Go ask mighty Israeli military how easy it was to find the real Hamas terrorists in Gaza. We have 30,000 troops spread over land mass of North East Nigeria bigger than the whole of Great Britain. We have Boko Haram that spies on any town or any military base dressed as women covered head to toe in Islamic dress called hijab, if you ever seen one hijab full regalia before. How do you track them? They are civilians in day time and Boko haram at night. Spread 30,000 men over Britain and ask them to police every street and see the result you get. I don't care what countries your Kruger park poachers escape to, they keep doing it again and again. They invade your country from Mozambique and you can do NOTHING about it. South Africa deployed your 'highly photographed' Special Forces military with helicopters in support, yet animal hunters overrun South Africa, and your Gripen jet nation of submarines has to remove all Rhinos from their habitat because you are defeated by the Poachers. "We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Battallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colonel Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure." SANDF special forces and 21 Battalion with air force support got defeated in ANC homeland republic...by bush animal hunters . |
zaandrew: Facts remain. BH attacked a nigerian vilage, rounded up 100 people and loaded them on trucks, drove them out of town, used boats to cross in to chad. At no point did nigeria send forves to stop them.Fact remains, poachers cut off Rhino horns inside South Africa, transport them past your SANDF men and helicopters plus rangers on patrol and guard duty, cross border into Zimbabwe and sell your Rhino horns without South Africa sending army, air force, or rangers to stop them. Point remains Poachers get away, happens all the time . |
zaandrew: When nigeria attacks BH is able to flee when chad attacks they rescue 100 kidnaped nigerians.No, dude, you got it all wrong. Bokos kidnapped Nigerian civilians close to lake Chad border line and immediately used speed boats to carry them across lake water border into Chad. On landing in Chad, they unluckily fell into the hands of well armed and mobile Chadian army special COIN units. Boko was caught immobile without vehicles, caught by surprise, out-numbered by Chadian soldiers and defeated. Did your Soweto military academy teach you to study a battle before you comment? No ! Intelligence is a luxury most South Africans cannot afford ![]() http://www.punchng.com/news/soldiers-free-boko-haram-captives/ . |
. [size=13pt]Nigerian army sweeps Doron Baga Town...Boko Haram Fighters Flee Into Chad Entire Boko Haram Base Flushed Down The Toilet http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/update-on-doron-baga-troops-clear-terrorists-camps-in-counter-offensive/[/size] Israeli army will soon be in Nigeria to be trained by us in COIN warfare. Nigeria is the best COIN army in the world now ! .
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overhypedsteve: At least someone with sense liked this poetic master piece. Wished i could even like it myself.That poem got 50 likes in 24 hours ! Good job mister writer, university professors don't get that much likes for a poem in a day at UNILAG. -Augustine . |
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