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overhypedsteve: A poem to immortalise our frontline heroes. Whose efforts are reflected in the peace which we now enjoy.
AVAST!

https://www.nairaland.com/1860179/avast-poem-brave-young-frontline#25526749


we cannot all be professional military analyst like henry120,easternleopard, or oga ibnsultan. But what we can. We do for home and country.

That poem got 46 likes in 24 hours. Good job.

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[size=14pt]South African Army Orders New Main BattleTanks....

Size According To Limited Funds......

defenceweb breaking news[/size]


PHOTO : SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY'S NEW TANKS, SIZE IS ACCORDING TO LIMITED FUNDS
https://blog-imgs-42.fc2.com/a/r/e/aresoku/Logo-Mini20Tanks.jpg

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MikeZA: So?...

...You eat the humble pie

MikeZA: Is that Southern Angola or Northern Namibia. Our soldiers didn't wear soldier-2000 back then.

Its clearly written on the photo as SA Bush war, or you think it is C.A.R. Bangui? Papa Ajasco

zaandrew: Perhase you should goolge image search sothern agola.

It is a nice and neat place to drive around Ratel and Olifant armoured vehicles...
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zaandrew: How about this. SA drove hundreds of KM cross countrty(no roads at all of any kind) in angola to attack cuban and angolan defences from behind. They ended up forcing angolan and cuban forces to retreat through there own mine field.

That terrain is as plain and neat as a school earth playground.

Dry land warfare. That's the only place SANDF can fight
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zaandrew: Durban. Mangro swamps

PE jungel

Dragesberg mountain

Orgean river and a bunch of dams

Eastern cape and KZN can get muddy

Northen cap is desert

Bush veld and savan cover the rest and our ocean is bigger than yours.

South African army can only fight on dry solid lands or tarred roads

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zaandrew: And iraq is a army to look up to?

Israle goal not to ocupie but stop the rocket attacks.

Iraq fought Iran. Iraq fought USA/NATO/UN/The whole world. Iraq will roast South Africa.

Hamas is still firing r.ockets into Israeli cities after the Israeli army withdrew from Gaza. Mission failed.

Welcome to the world of COIN warfare !

MikeZA: There's no such thing called "all terrain rough war zone". I hate it when you make up things.

I spoke english language and everybody else understands my meaning, except you...d.ullard

patches689: The better army that is constantly defeated by BH in soft skinned wheeled vehicles

Yeah, better, totally

We see ISIS heading for Baghadad until USNAF/USMC F-18 jets and Drones stopped them.

We see Israeli army and air force pull out of Gaza without victory.

We have not seen Nigerian army stop k.illing Bokos 24/7

We will see Nigerian army training Israeli army in COIN warfare very near future
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MikeZA: Do you even know where the fighting took place? There's no such thing called "all terrain rough war zone".

You have none in South Africa.

Nigeria is an all terrain war zone.

Mangrove swamp.

Rivers and lakes.

Ocean.

Rocks and mountains.

Bog land, mud land.

Savannah bush.

Rain forest jungle

Sahel desert.

Reason why we built a better army than South Africa's dry land only SANDF

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zaandrew: No it is not. You can see it is mud.

Looks no worse than the mud pan set up at the AAD shows.

Use your head. Tanks are about 8 feet tall. If a tank shows you only turret up, it is inside a 6 feet deep hole, and that is not a road.

That tank is either buried for dug in defense or caught in a landslide very common in Asia, Europe and America. Looks like western tank.

Roads are not 6 feet deep like a grave.

zaandrew: No it is not. You can see it is mud.

I see earth, looks buried. It's not even a road. Could have been landslide natural disaster too.

We are talking about army on a bad road that leads to a military target.

When its complete bog land, nobody drives vehicles...

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zaandrew: Thanks to NATO and you could not adquitly support it. And 2000km. The SADF did for years supporting there forces in northen angola from sa

NATO ? They gave us zero help, they gave us 100% arms embargo.

Angola was fully accessible to SADF by dry land all the way. Nigeria had to fly air and sail ocean into a swamp and thick jungle equatorial rain forest of Africa.

South Africa dare not try that, you will get stuck till kingdom come

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Msauza: What about this?

That's like a tank dug in for defensive position. Armies do that a lot. That photo is not a road path.

You see the road in the video below, 99% of SANDF will be fully stuck in the mud. Soweto army is weak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUPPLTYdA

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zaandrew: Countries the sandf as sent ground forces for operstional purposes included

CAR not sadc
Sudan not sadc
Libya not sadc
And one west african country, forgot the name.

You deploy only 4x4 vehicles for peace keeping only, and you carefully select where you drive to.

C.A.R. Bangui is a city with tarred roads, not an all terrain rough war zone
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MikeZA: Question is: Does Nigeria? Cause no country in sub saharan Africa has the capability to deploy and sustain forces,such as the size deployed by France in and around Mali.

Nigeria deployed more than France.

Nigeria deployed 15,000 soldiers, with tanks, APCs, artillery, trucks, AAA guns, Frigates, LPD ship, corvettes, Alpha jets, C-130 Hercules, etc all 2,000 km away from Lagos, far up to Liberia/Sierra Leone and sustained them for 10 years without foreign help, because we were under international arms embargo.

That is world class force projection....Nigeria.....the strongest military in Africa second only to Egypt.

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MikeZA: So? You can see even a 4X4 is moving through the mud.

You are more blind than a street begger, let me help you....

PHOTO : THIS IS WHAT 99% OF SOUTH AFRICAN ARMY WILL BECOME IN MANY PARTS OF AFRICA AND ASIA

https://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk75/FireWire79/mudding.jpg

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MikeZA: This is Africa.

This is Africa too, West Africa...

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zaandrew: Southern africa is not Iraq

SANDF has ZERO force projection beyond your local SADC region

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Msauza: ONE INGWE, ONE TANK.

Your Ratel IFVs with their Ingwe will be stuck inside mud with 99% of SANDF armoured vehicles.

Useless army of rubber tyres only
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Msauza: ONE INGWE, ONE TANK.

Your blind Ingwe that gets disabled by smoke

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While South African army gets stuck and grounded above, Nigerian army will be using them for shooting practice, juicy targets !


Nigerian army has 300 units of this Vehicle among our 1,000 tracked Tanks/APCs...

Watch the video and see how we slide through mud like snakes ![/size]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUPPLTYdA

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patches689: And no the SANDF will not be immobilized, wheels are superior to tracks

South African army will be 99% grounded where Nigerian army will move forward to victory.

Your wheels will b.ury your army in mud, Nigerian tracked armour will be picking you off like shooting practice while you dig with shovel. LOL !

[size=14pt]This How 99% Of South African Army Will Become Useless And Stuck [/size]

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MikeZA: Rebel force with no military standard patrol packs. Ever heard about 7 medical battalion?

Ever heard about Nigerian army medical corps? A whole corps in thousands, not just a battalion....chew this and drink water after...


http://www.nigerianafcsc.org/DOCS/read/NAMC%20LECTURE.pdf

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andrewza: Goverment not miltary

Government owns and rules the military. Dumbo

Is it your SANDF officers that own your military or your government owns it?

Military is not a private sector property.

Sure those 40 new Nigerian combat helicopters have s.cattered your thinking faculties into total disarray.

andrewza: polcie is not air force. I count 19

I hate repeating posts, but....Chew on this

MikeZA: The SANDF has 11 Rooivalks

Nigeria's NAF has 30 combat helicopters.


2 damaged Mi-24 being repaired, 1 Mi-35 crashed but immediate replacement ordered.



6 Mi-35M Hind E (2 delivered).......................Federal Ministry Of Defence 2014/This Day Newspapers
14 Mi-24V/35P...........................................SIPRI database
10 Mi-8/Mi-171s armed terminators................SIPRI database

SOURCE :

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2000 to 2013
Note: The ÔNo. delivered/producedÕ and the ÔYear(s) of deliveriesÕ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ÔCommentsÕ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 03 August 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Belarus
R: Nigeria

2 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2009 2010 2 Second-hand

France
R: Nigeria

5 AS-532 Cougar/AS-332 Helicopter 2010 Second-hand but modernized before delivery; status uncertain


Italy
R: Nigeria

2 A-109K Light helicopter (2000) 2001 (2) Mainly for protection of off-shore oil fields
4 A-109K Light helicopter (2002) 2004 (4) A-109E Power version

12 AW139 Helicopter 2006 2006-2009 3

12 A-109K Light helicopter (2009) 2010-2012 (6) A-109LUH version; from South African production line


Russia
R: Nigeria

10 Mi-34S/Hermit Light helicopter 1999 2001-2002 (10) For training
6 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2000) 2000 6 Probably second-hand but modernized before delivery
4 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter (2002) 2003 4 Mi-171Sh armed version
3 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2012 Possibly second-hand but modernized or rebuilt before delivery; designation uncertain (could be Mi-17V-5 helicopter)
6 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter 2012 Mi-171Sh armed version

Ukraine
R: Nigeria

2 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2007) 2008 2 Second-hand
1 Mi-24V/Hind-E Combat helicopter (2008) 2008 1 Second-hand



http://www.sipri.org/databases/armstransfers

That is about 60 helicopters in NAF on SIPRI alone for purchases from year 2000 to 2013 only. I did not add 6 units new Mi-35M Hind E, squadron of Bell Rangers, squadron of R66 Robinsons, and the 40 new helicopters from USA/Russia arriving this month.

Nigerian air force (Not counting Navy helicpoters one squadron, not counting any NAF reserves two squadrons) will have about 120 helicopters rocking the skies....Biggest force in Sub-Saharan Africa !

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andrewza: That was done long ago

Nope, never done anywhere..

#Show Us Photo Of SANDF Medicals Treating Your Wounded In C.A.R. Bangui

#France's Army Confirmed To Have Treated SANDF Wounded In C.A.R. Bangui


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MikeZA: Denel is the OEM. Britain nor Canada have anything to do with howitzer

"G6 propulsion system

The wheeled mine-protected chassis supplied by BAE Systems Land Systems is capable of a road speed of 85km/h and a cross country / desert speed of 30km/h. "

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/g6/

All engines and chassis of G-6 Artillery were build in Britain and shipped imported to South Africa, Soweto does not make engines.

Gun is Canadian
Engine/Chassis is British
Tyre/Wheel is South African

No gun no artillery
No engine no vehicle


South African army will have to Fvck around with the G-6 artillery tyres only

PHOTO : G-6 RHINO ARTILLERY TYRES...PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN
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MikeZA: Only on the barrel.

G-6 Artillery....

G-6 gun barrel is Canadian

G-6 engine/chassis is British

G-6 Tyre/Wheel is South African

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patches689: Canada did not design the g5 or g6

A Canadian did

In South Africa

And the gun was built in South Africa

South Africa has HIV because South African people have it.

Canada designed G-6 artillery because a Canadian did.

Whatever good or bad you do, your country of origin in named with it.

G-5 and G-6 artillery are Canadian brain designed, and therefore they are Canadian products. Live with it

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patches689: yeah only the gas feeds

and even then they are heavily adapted

A copy is a copy.

Galil and R4 Heavily Borrowed not heavily adapted, they heavily borrowed from AK-47 technology.

patches689: Galil is not an AK 47

Galil is a copy of AK-47 and SANDF R4 is a copy of Galil.

SANDF carries about a copy of AK-47

"The Galil is a family of Israeli small arms designed by Yisrael Galil and Yaacov Lior in the late 1960s and produced by Israel Military Industries Ltd (now Israel Weapon Industries Ltd) of Ramat HaSharon. The rifle design borrowed heavily from the AK-47 "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Galil
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