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patches689: All NATO mbts are 120mm you asshat

This dumbass, seriously, he doesn't even know the bore of modern MBT's. What a joke.

I am your master, don't be rude to your boss. NATO has built more 105mm guns on tanks than any 120mm...

"The Royal Ordnance L7 is the basic model of Britain's most successful tank gun. The L7 was a 105 mm L/52 rifled design by the Royal Ordnance Factories intended for use in armoured fighting vehicles, replacing the earlier 20 pounder (84 mm) found on the Centurion.[1] The L7 was so successful that it armed not only British post-war designs, but was used almost universally in "the West" as the main armament of almost every main battle tank of the period."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Ordnance_L7

Mumu
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andrewza: Why do nigerians think they getting 40 more helcopters. Never though that many will replace older stuff?

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"The Federal Government is adding 40 attack and transport helicopters to the air force arsenal in the battle with Boko Haram.


Other sophisticated hardware have also been ordered for the armed forces by the government, according to military sources in Abuja."

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/boko-haram-fg-acquires-40-attack-helicopters-to-fight-militants/

Soweto people's high blood pressure will hit roof top this month O !

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Msauza: JUST YESTERDAY @AGAUGUST WAS FALSELY CLAIMING THAT CHINA HAS OVERTAKEN SOUTH AFRICA IN RESPECT OF MRAP TECHNOLOGY. LITTLE DID HE KNOW THAT HIS LIES WILL BE SHORTLIVED AND WILL INFACT BE REVEALED THAT HIS BIG FOOT THAT HE WAS ALWAYS MAKING A NOISE ABOUT WAS BUILT IN SOUTH AFRICA. THAT EMBARRASSMENT WAS WAY TOO MUCH FOR HIM TO GULP AFTER FINDING OUT THAT INFACT CHINA NEVER DESIGNED HIS BIG FOOT.

WE TOLD HIM MANY A TIMES THAT SA IS A LEADER OF MRAP TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD, SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US WERE TAUGHT AT VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES. IF MILITARY POWER IN THE WORLD (USA) COME TO LEARN ABOUT THE TECHNICAL KNOW-HOW OF MRAPS IN SOUTH AFRICA, THEN WHAT IS CHINA, RUSSIA AND ISRAEL. THEY ALL LEARNT FROM US. FINISH AND KLAAR.

It is a Chinese owned, built, and designed MRAP.

Nigerian police gave South Africa design inputs to improve Springbuck MRAP, does it make it a Nigerian made MRAP ?


Big Foot MRAP is Chinese designed and built MRAP, don't steal Chinese glory or else Jackie Chan go commot b.lood from y.our nose !
The Chinese had a joint venture with South Africa, original design was Chinese, modified by South Africa.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/chinese_china_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle_uk/cs_vp3_mrap_mine-resistant_ambush_protected_armoured_personnel_carrier_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_.html

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MikeZA: Nothing advanced or scary. Watch when real defence force goes to the market very soon.....

...to buy corn, eggs and bread to feed your soon to be retrenched soldiers.

patches689: Not an ordinary RPG head jackass

Polish Patria ICVs took multiple RPG hits in Afghanistan and still kept going

And no, HE will not penetrate or else tanks would use HE for AT roles

Clown

Read my post again in your own quote...I said Ordinary RPG HEAT....HEAT is not HE....mumu !

Tanks dont use HE in anti-tank role because they generally carry a smaller gun, NATO mostly 105mm....a Palmaria is a goddam 155mm !!!!

Mumu !

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Nigerian army...currently owns powerful and modern radio communication, and a whole army signals corp !

Full communication at all levels, team, squad, platoon, battalion, brigade, divisions.

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patches689: 1. No
2. Troops in DRC and Sudan say otherwise
3. Refer to operations in Angola during the rainy season
4. You have less transport assets than we do - so no
5. No, you lack combined arms training and skill
6. You can't even defeat BH, so no

@Andrewza just proved you wrong

andrewza: You do know no one knows the thickness of even the olphant mk1 armour. But they where hit by T55s in angola and none where destroyed. The olfant MK2 even as spaced armour so HEAT warheads are close to useless. So no a 90mm heat round will do nothing.

The blast of a he round is not focused. It will follow the path of least restance. Aka away from the tank.


Mines genraly only diable modern day tanks. And the belly is the weakest point. Sure if the round is a luck hit and gets inbetween the turret ring you could pull it off. But that one luck shot and it is how a ratel 20mm was assumed to destroy a T55 with a luck shot. Difrince is the ratel was firing at point blank rang at 750 RPM so at more chance of a luck shot hiting a weak point in the armour.

Ordinary RPG hand held HEAT penetrated mighty Abrams tank.

Tanks are no longer invincible in 2014.

Anti-tank mines disable tanks with 5kg TNT, a 155mm gun with 12 TNT will penetrate a tank, not by boring a hole like HEAT, but will impact an explosive force that will dis-joint the tank, turrets get disengaged from hull by force, they are not welded together, they are joined on a rotating axis.

Won't drag this topic because we cannot get a practical demo, who will give us tank and arty in a field to test ? Nobody

andrewza: Notice that the only tracked AFV in sa are tanks. That due to terrian. In Southern africa wheels beat tracks.

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You just admitted what I have been saying for over 6 months now.

1. South African army is built for home-land defense alone

2. South African army has ZERO force projection outside your country

3. South African army will be 99% grounded and immobile in all terrain war theater

4. Nigerian army is built for full force projection outside Nigeria

5. Nigerian army will be 100% mobile in all terrain war theatre

6. Nigerian army is more powerful than South African army

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andrewza: You don't seem to know how HE works compared to AP, sabot, HEAT, SAPHE extra. A 155mm does not fire with a high enogh veloctie to get through armour so it will explode on the outside. The blast is not strong enough to knock the tank out. Most you can get is a firepower kill but a 105mm HE can do the same.

I know how different shells work. I posted here that a Sagaie 90mm HEAT will penetrate an Olifant tank.

However, a 155mm HE direct hit on a tank with double the TNT explosive load of anti-tank mines? Wow, it will goddam penetrate a tank !

You don't know the physics of explosions, that heavy blast can breech tank turret from hull, it's got the muzzle velocity of a bullet and the explosive TNT double of a big anti-tank mine.

andrewza: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_Medical_Orderly

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Medical_Battalion_Group

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Military_Health_Service

Did it for him.

Nigerian Army Medical Corp

http://www.nigerianafcsc.org/DOCS/read/NAMC%20LECTURE.pdf

SANDF medical core CANNOT go into all terrains in battle, but Nigerian army can do that.

In special terrain, South African soldiers will d.ie of injury, Nigerian army medical corp will fight it's war through battle zone and all terrains and save our soldiers' live. We are far better than you are !

PHOTO 1 : SOUTH AFRICA, UNARMED, LIMITED TERRAIN

PHTOTO 2 : NIGERIA, ARMED, ALL TERRAIN

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andrewza: A 155mm HE would strugel vs the frontal armour of a tank. Where the auto canon of IF would easly pentrate the frontal armour of a sph. Of witch you do not have. 50.

Dude, no tank in this world, not even the mighty Abrams tank of America will survive a direct frontal armour hit from that 155mm gun. A 155mm HE shell is not an RPG that bounces off tanks armour, a 155mm gun with 41 calibre is not in the same average class of Olifant tanks105mm shell that will bounce off an Abrams tank.

SANDF Olifant tank is one of the weaker armours in a modern day 2014 war era , a 155mm HE shell will tear into it.....and you have on 26 units Olifant Mk II version, the rest are even much weaker MK I versions, Nigeria has 50 Palmarias and with 4 times longer gun range.

Note, Olifant gun is 105mm, Palmaria gun is 155mm.

Also note, 99% of SANDF will be totally immobile and grounded in all terrain war theater while Nigeria will be able to move into action.

Your army will lose very badly if you try Nigeria.

patches689: lol, did he just say that he would use an SPG as a tank destroyer?

HAHAHHA

I dont think augugubgugug knows how a howitzer works.

You know next to nothing about artillery dude, you only know internet artillery info copy and paste.

Nigerian army Palmaria artillery is built for both direct and indirect fire. Indirect fire mode it works as artillery. Direct fire mode it works like a main battle tank with gun range technically 24km, and will wipe out ALL South African army Ratels, Rooikat, MRAPS, Olifant tank, G-6 Rhino etc from a range of 24km once there is line of sight.

Our Palmaria has special targeting sight for direct fire with a periscope for telescopic magnification power of x8, meaning if Palmaria looks at a South African Ratel with Ingwe missile from 24km away, the Ratel will look so close like only 3km away, excellent targeting, Booooom ! Palmaria fires 155mm gun with a 41 calibre shell, Ratel dies, Rooikat dies, even Olifant perishes....SANDF is wiped out.

See, I tell you more, 99% of South African army will be immobilized and totally grounded to a final halt if you go out of your country to fight Nigeria in a terrain that requires all round mobility.

Yes 99% of SANDF will be totally grounded unable to move, Nigerian army will move 1,000 tanks, artillery, and APC with full mobilty !

PHOTO : GIANT PALMARIA OF THE GIANT OF AFRICA

https://www.creativecrash.com/system/photos/000/322/182/322182/watermarked/Pal_7.jpg

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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS DOES NIGERIA POSSESS AIR TO AIR REFUELLING CAPABILITY? SEE SOUTH AFRICAN BELOW

South Africa's air refuelling capacity NO MORE EXISTS today, it ended with the Cheetah jets.

Today, combat radius of South African air force is 800 km maximum, your Gripen jet cannot fly combat mission beyond Zimbabwe.

Sorry o !

MikeZA: As the DR is implemented. Prepare lists of weapons to lobby on beegeaglesblog.

Our lobby on beegeagles blog already produced over 40 helicopters, 60 armoured vehicles, and 40,000 communication radios.

Watch out for Su-30 Flanker jet or JF-17 Thunder / Kfri Block 60.

Billions of Naija oil and gas dollars flowing like a river.

You will soon d.ie of envy
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MikeZA: In a defence posture. Ready to strike. But that's changing very soon.

Yes my brother, changing very soon from bad to worse as SANDF begins retrenchment of soldiers and cancells purchase of new equipment. You are right bro.

NaijaPikinGidi: Henry and Augustine ... wia I fit meet una sef? Una deserve military recognition. Chai!! Make we finish dis Borno matter first!! Na jeje!!

Oga mi, I go send you my email address backstage and you can save it. I dey for oyinbo land sha o, ibe ni moun gbe for many years.

We are happy to represent Naija with what we know by God's grace.

All Nigerians on this forum, noticed or unnoticed, silent or outspoken, are a part of this great TEAM NIGERIA.

I salute you all

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andrewza: you can be the giant, bigger does not equal better.

You can look finer, more colourful does not mean more powerful
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andrewza: Why do you think we hate you?

Both Nigeria and South Africa want to be giant of Africa, there is only one chair for that position, and somebody has been sitting on it since 1914 and he won't stand up, his azz is glued to the seat after 100 years.
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Thiza: SANDF WOMEN @AUGUSTUS IS WHAT YOU LIKE

Yes brother, please can I have GSM number of six of them? We can talk by email, I will give you my email address and even pay you dollars. I like the ones that are big rear bumper and medium front bonnet, and can open the two front doors very wide apart till it will almost tear.

@THIZA my brother, help me get them naaa
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Msauza: LEARN ENGLISH WELL. AWAKEN AS IN UPGRADED.

OKAY YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT AS AT KNOW SOUTH AFRICAN MILITARY IS CURRENTLY DOWNGRADED . THANKS

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MikeZA: SANDF already has ambulances. This ones are mounted on trucks,meaning it a capability ADDITION.

You just disputed same thing about Nigeria. What makes your argument right and mine wrong? Olodo.

Anyway, SANDF has shortage of Ambulances, confirmed report says your wounded were begging French army for medical first aid at the airport in Bangui after the Seleka humiliation you suffered.

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MikeZA: African military giant,soon to be awaken.

You just admitted that South African military is currently asleep. Thanks for being honest just once

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zaandrew: hello again,

I got banned telling you all that the couger henrys all tim best MRAP was desghened in SA by south Africans and that the RG31 aka a SA MRAP sold more than either the bushmaster or couger.

No, you got banned because you forgot to add to your comment that South African G-5 and G-6 artillery guns were designed by Canada and sold to you, the engine and chasis of the G-6 artillery were fully built by Europeans and sold, shipped completed wholesale to DENEL.

Even South African Defence Industry is grossly over-rated by you guys
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Msauza: THAT IS UNTRUE, YOU ORDERED RADIOS BECAUSE THEY CAUSED YOU TO LOSE THE BATTLE IN GWOZA. YOU NEVER HAD RADIOS WHICH WERE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. I CAN QUOTE A SOURCE TO SUBSTANTIATE IF YOU WANT.

You follow them enter Gwoza town?
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MikeZA: I'm not talking about medic evac. If a soldier gets shot in your view,since all your soldiers carry is 1 rifle and 150 bullets. He'll sit there bleeding awaiting the medic to get to him,all his comrades can do is watch him bleed out. You know. You get served with a warm one.

Every platoon has medical officer and first aid kit in any national army in this world. Even Burundi will not send soldiers to war without first aid kit. Even civilan offices and children's schools have first aid boxes.

You want to turn this forum into argument about plaster, bandage, and iodine bottle or dettol .... Whose time are you trying to waste? If you have nothing good to post, please switch off your laptop and go watch Tv.

Mister Ode!
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MikeZA: www.iol.co.za/news/politics/17-ambulances-for-sandf-1.1731511

17 ambulances? For Lesotho army size...LOL

You have shortage of Ambulances in SANDF, that's why you are buying more .

Shortage !!!!!

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MikeZA: Shortage!!!

Expansion!!!!

Msauza: NEW SOUTH AFRICAN DEFENCE COMPANY WHICH BUILT NIGERIAS BIG FOOT MRAP IS REVEALED.

http://mobilelandsystems.net/

You revealed nothing, Andrewza posted that info many months ago. China got your design and improved it, same way Canada designed your G-6 and G-5 artilley. Does Canadian army use the artillery? No.

Does South African army have Big Foot MRAP in service? No.

Does Nigerian army have Big Foot MRAP in service? Big Yes !

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MikeZA: (((((((((((((((((((((BOOM))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) South Africa is leading the world when it comes to MRAPS. @Henry120 will collapse.

Why? @Andrewza posted that information months ago when we posted photo of Nigerian new Chinese MRAP. So what? We own the MRAP, if you fight us we turn the double turret gun on your heads, simple
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Thiza: Two requests for quotations related to the South African National Defence Force's next generation of landward tactical communications systems, meaning HF and VHF radios, primarily for the SA Army, were recently issued.

ETEL/2012/7, issued April 4, related to the “[d]evelopment and qualification of the tactical communications management system of Project Radiate - acquisition of a new communication system for the SANDF” while ETEL/2012/8, issued the next day, was for audio devices (headsets, handsets, microphones) “for the new tactical communications system”.

https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fitweb.co.za%2Fmobilesite%2Fdefenceweb%2Fhome%2Fitem_id-25522%2F&ei=RR_uU-S6GIXA7Ab23ICoCA&usg=AFQjCNE5Xnma-yIcN_qnrdojeFfRP8XozQ

Soweto guys wanna commit suicide because Nigeria ordered 40,000 military radios in one day ! Wow !

Let me help you to hang with a rope more quickly :

Nigeria just ordered 40,000 radios for our soldiers, enough radios to equip every combatant soldier in SANDF, we can give you some for free, so you issue them to your HIV sick army to call for help when their anti-retro viral drugs get finished on AU peace keeping deployment.
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MikeZA: when a soldier gets shot in combat his comrades have to stop the bleeding,bandage the wound before the medics arrive to increase his chances of survival. But your soldiers only carry: 1 rifle and 150 bullets. Knowing helicopters can take more hours to arrive and rescue the injured. More Hilux vans? Yeah sure.

Your post makes no sense. Its all crap talk.

I have posted Nigerian army ambulances used on battlefield for medic evac, including armoured armed versions that can fight it's way through hot zones.

Eat the humble and fill your empty stomach
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