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MikeZA: poor analogy as usual. You ordered 40 000 radios because there's a serious shortage. South Africa ordered the Gripen,because Cheetah D was becoming obsolete.

Nope, Nigeria ordered 40,000 more radios because we increased our army from 120,000 to 150,000 not counting new navy and air force fresh recruits and new battalions of rangers and special forces, as well as NSCDC COIN war gendarmes.

40,000 radios is almost as big as your entire SANDF aged and tired army of inexperience dumbo domingoes soon to be retrenched for doing no work and getting salary for many years.

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MikeZA: The SANDF received armoured ambulances one month back.

Quote source proof
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MikeZA: This proves what we've been saying: Lack of radios,armoured vehicles etc....The list is endless

We orderd 40,000 new radios, does not mean we don't have radios before.

We ordered new APCs, does it mean we don't have APCs before?

Okay, South Africa ordered Gripen jet 1999 means you did not have any jet fighters before 1999. Olodo

Msauza: OBJ IS OF COURSE AK47

R4 IS OF COURSE GALIL...GALIL IS OF COURSE AK-47

Henry120: It means there are always multiple procurements which go un-reported in the media. As such fraudulent sources like defenceweb.co.za cannot and should not be trusted.


The tender clearly states that on the 12 of August 2014, the nigerian military placed tenders for the additional supply of helicopters, armoured vehicles and 20,000 radios.

Nigeria will soon have the biggest and best military helicopter force in all Africa.

The new radios are 40,000 units....for 50 Battalions of soldiers....Boko Haram...here we come.

The final big push is about to begin...Sri Lanka model !!!

https://www.comm-spec.com/images/military-radios.jpg

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patches689: - we dont use AK's
- posts pictures with men with an AK

Fool, an OBJ 006 is a variant NOT a copy of AK-47.

OBJ is made in Nigeria since year 2007 in tens of thousands, the specs of OBJ 006 are classified.

They only look alike...Mumu

https://www.nairaland.com/46074/rifle-called-obj-006

PHOTO : NIGERIAN MADE OBJ 006....NOT AK-47

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2012/07/nr-1nan.jpg?w=640[/img]

Msauza: OBAMA MOBILISED STUDENTS TO PROTEST THE US SUPPORT TO THE APARTHEID SA. LONG BEFORE HE COULD BECOME THE PRES OF AMERICA HE WAS INSIRED BY MANDELA AND REGARDED HIM AS HIS ROLE MODEL. HE VISITED ROBBEN ISLAND AFTER MANDELAS RELEASE AND THE TWO BECAME FRIENDS.

Show me proof, I don't want your personal story story....every black American in USA was against apartheid....and Rev Jesse Jackson did more than a student Obama who did NOT lead any protest. When Martin Luther King organization asks American blacks to protest, we all come out, our people are doing one now in Ferguson Missouri, 18 year old black boy m.urdered by white police, thousands of black people came out to protest.

Obama is busy reading speech inside white house, he CANNOT save us his own blacks from white racists being a black president, shay na your South Africa he go save 20,000 km away as an ordinary student?

If you waited for Obama salvation, white dogs go eat Soweto people finish before 1994

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patches689: Nigeria had nothing to do with the end of apartheid.

Go say that to South African ex-president Thabo Mbeki that spent years hiding inside Nigerian city, living and eating free of charge for years.

NAF asked for air re-fuelling tankers for our Jaguar jets when South Africa began to threaten us with air re-fuelling SAAF Mirage fighter jets and Bucanneer Bomber jets for long range attack, Nigeria exposed itself to danger and openly declared itself an enemy of an apartheid South Africa that had nuclear weapons.

Britain and USA refused to sell us air tankers to prevent us balancing up air power range with South Africa of old time.

You are ungrateful, Nigeria saved your coloured skin people from becoming Boer white-man's dog food

https://www.ibhistorytopics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BAHA-apartheid-signage.jpg

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MikeZA: It is small order. The SANDF received armoured ambulances a month back.

It is one of the many new and fresh secret orders, details unknown. Chinese MRAPS and American Spartan Mk III have been pouring in secretly into Nigerian army war zone. Nigeria has more armoured vehicles than South Africa today.

Ambulance? Nigerian soldiers have mobile battlefield armoured ambulances in war zone, our wounded soldiers get medical evacuation.

Contary to your false claims that we have no amubulance to save our wounded in battle, I prove your wrong

https://www.emergencyvehiclecenter.com/Images/New%20Deliveries/09-06-10-2010_0716CapeandNigeria0001.JPG

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/03/alvis-spartan-ambulance.jpg[/img]

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Msauza:
IT SEEMS THAT YOU DONT KNOW THE HISTORY OF OBAMA THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR IMAGINERY REFUGE. GO AND READ HIS HISTORY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HIS CONTRIBUTION IN THE FIGHT AGAINST APARTHEID AND HOW MANDELA WAS ALWAYS HIS INSPIRATION. NIGERIA DID NOTHING OTHER THAN TAKING A PEN AND WRITTING A LONG BORING ESSAY OF WHAT WAS ALREADY KNOWN TO BOTH UK AND US.

[size=13pt] Obama did NOTHING personally to fight apartheid in South Africa. I have read his history, I voted for him, I am an American citizen.

I dare you to post Obama's history here to prove your fake claims.

I have Obasanjo's Nigerian letter warning Reagan and Thatcher directly against apartheid

Nigeria defeated apartheid by diplomatic war, your freedom fighters were wasting AK-47 bullets in the bush, they could not defeat SADF.

If Nigeria did not hide Thabo Mbeki inside a Nigerian house and feed him there, he would never have become South African President, one of your white-men's beach dogs would have eaten up the poor man at a picnic !

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[size=16pt]Nigeria orders 40,000 radios and more helicopters, plus Armoured vehicles !

http://www.tendersinfo.com/nigeria-contracts.php[/size]

https://shopelectronicsandmore.com/images/cobra-army-cb.JPG

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Msauza: A delusional commander of seleka which is non-existant is believed by AGAUGUST..

Your great tormentor exists O ! Msauza run run run !

http://www.lanouvellecentrafrique.org/category/news/page/6/

https://www.lanouvellecentrafrique.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Arda-Hakouma-300x272.jpg

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Msauza: I SEE POVERTY. DAMN DO THOSE GUYS EVEN GET PAID OR WHAT?

Slim fit soldiers with stamina, not SANDF pot belly fat azzes. Have you seen how slim Israeli soldiers are? Speed and endurance. Fat kills

andrewza: Nigeria does not have any spy balloon, or if they do it is worthless since BH is still able to launch massive attacks on Nigerian towns with techncals.


Arty does not need to see you to shoot you.

Nigeria is using domestically made spy balloons, it is one reason why attacks on major cities have greatly reduced.

"The Commander, Corps of Engineers, Major General Funsho Owonibi, made this disclosure yesterday at the opening ceremony of the Operations Planning Cadre organised by the 81 Division General Officer Commanding, Major General Tamunomieibi Dibi, held at 65 Battalion, Victoria Island, Lagos.

He said some of the measures included the establishment of bomb disposal squadrons in all divisional headquarters, establishment of canine units as well as establishment of the department of lessons learnt at army headquarters and civilian-military relations up to divisional levels.

Owonibi also said the recent establishment of the Nigerian army low altitude platform station was to considerably improve its ability to checkmate terrorism"

http://allafrica.com/stories/201407220484.html


On artillery, you got it wrong, Palmaria does direct fire on ground targets with it's main gun depressed to human height level, and technically the range is still 24 km !!!

It will wipe out enemy tanks from 10km long range ! It has telescopic target image magnification x8.

You dont mess around with Nigerian army dude !

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Thiza: HEROES OF CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC BATTLE BEING HONOURED....ON THE PICTURES ARE SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES WHO FOUGHT FOR 6 HOURS AND SUFFERED NO CASUALTIES ONL 3 HAD MINOR INJURIES

Those guys ran from Seleka, and had no courage to go back since 2013. Cowardice is a virtue of honour in South Africa

Look at those pictures, SANDF soldiers are really old and weak, if those guys run 500 meters, their heart beat pulse rate will hit 200 !!

They will just fall down and collapse

SANDF retirement home militia

"But in Bangui, Cyril Bensimon, the RFI journalist who originally reported the claims of more SANDF deaths, stuck to his story on Friday, saying that other sources had since contacted him to confirm it. An officer of the Central African peacekeeping force, FOMAC, which had also been stationed in the CAR, had told him that FOMAC troops had brought about 40 bodies of SANDF troops back from the battlefield to the SANDF base.

A regional diplomat had also congratulated Bensimon on his article, telling him: “You have written what we could not say.”

And he said that the Seleka chief of staff, General Hakouma Arda, who led the forces which clashed with the SANDF, and who had told him he had personally seen the bodies of 36 SANDF soldiers on the battlefield, was a reliable source."

http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/seleka-rebels-dispute-death-toll-of-soldiers-1.1496538#.U-1sxPldVB0

"General Arda Hakouma, who led the Seleka rebel coalition operation to capture Bangui, insists more South Africans were among the soldiers he killed.

“What is certain, I personally, Chief of Staff, chief of operations, so I am the one who directed the battle, I saw 36 South African dead and 22 wounded. That’s for sure, and there were prisoners too, we handed them over to Fomac [The regional African peacekeeping force for CAR]," he said."

http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20130404-witness-saw-over-50-bodybags-heading-south-africa-amid-allegations-involving-zumas-n

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MikeZA: That isn't change this facts. 1. One assault rifle and 150 bullets. 2. No buddy aid. 3. No webbing. 4. No water. 5. Support weapons. 6. Lack of combat search and rescue. And more.

The Nigerian soldiers' photos you see are those on brief ops mostly, assault order, short duration, and most are motorized. You have never seen photos of NA troops on long range marching order that are equipped for many days survival. I recommend you travel to north east Nigeria and see things for yourself, then come back and tell us your story after seeing our 20,000 men.....if you ever come back !

patches689: The Mig-21 is not being sold to the best and wealthiest military's in the world.

Today, one new MiG-21 price will buy 6 of the best MRAPS in this world. Poor nations like Benin Republic is buying Casspir 2000 MRAP, so what makes you think MRAP is a wealthy countries' equipment? Malawi Republic has MRAPS....You this Olodo

MikeZA: Nothing changes: 1 assault rifle and 150 bullets. If a Nigerian soldier gets shot in combat he'll likely die from bleeding.

Nigerian army carries 5 mags, yes, the American army can carry 1 million mags if the like, they did not win COIN war in Afghanistan. For South African army at 6 mags, it's not much difference from 5 mags, and who will copy South Africa? Nobody, 13 African countries came to Nigeria to learn COIN warfare 2014 modern tactics, they saw SANDF there and ignored you.

Nigeria has it's own combat doctrine, Sirius Black said the vehicles we drive in are loaded with boxes of extra mags. Those soldiers you see are always photographed close to their vehicles, means current ops is motorized. If they have to leave vehicle for long range ops, they will carry extra mags.

There are 3 different orders for battle, assault order (short duration, only essential load), combat order (24 hours load), and marching orders (14 days load)....for each order type, soldiers carry very different quantity of supplies.


I won't repeat old posts, Nigerian army does NOT rely on just AK-47 mags for combat, every fire-team of four soldiers has a machine gun with belt feed ammo.

A photo is worth a thousand words....try count the number of bullets a 4-man NA team carry on their bodies. Mumu

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andrewza: tons of photos of 7div the guys fighting BH on the web.

still a AK47, AKM is just a modified 47 i don't think any body uses the old original AK47 any more. It is like comparing a M16A2 to a M16A3.

means when you go prone in dirt you slam the top of the mag in to dirt increasing the chances of this

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The Nigerian soldiers on nairaland photos are less than 500 men. We have about 20,000 soldiers in NE war, you saw only 2% of our men, and many had Travor rifles.

AKM range is superior to AK-47 range.

R4 of SANDF is also a copy of Israeli Galil which is a copy of AK-47

Nigerian made OBJ-006 rifle specs are partly classified

andrewza: even with how HIV we still have a higher life expediency than Nigeria, why do you think that is.

Only because we report and list our crimes, how much goes unreported in Nigeria? A lot huh.

Almost every crime in Nigeria is reported to Police, our people have 170 million mobile phones and our police has 3,000 station/offices in every town and an outpost in every village.

Your reporting is not better than ours, fact is that apart from on going insurgency in NE, murder us very rare in Nigeria, we value life as part of our culture. Most common crime in Nigeria is petty stealing area boys hooliganism and that is only in the metro cities.

You just don't know Nigeria.

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andrewza: OK lets set a few things straight.

The US MRAPs for the most part serves only the USA where SA MRAPs are great export items. And UA MRAPs can not touch the SA stuff.
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America bought South African MRAPS for urgent need in Iraq/Afghanistan, now they don't need you any more. MRAP technology is NOT rocket science, the Americans and Chinese have taken MRAP beyond South Africa's old level.

The world of MRAPs no longer revolves around South Africa, Russians and Israelis now make great MRAPS...

Israel has built a RPG resistant MRAP.....http://www.military-today.com/apc/golan_mrap.htm

patches689: OMG Mandela once visited Nigeria?

O wow so impressive

You had nothing to do with the liberation struggle - hence why you were snubbed Madibas funeral. Who were the major speakers I ask you? They were those who actually assisted South Africa.

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American president Obama was major speaker at Mandela's funeral, show me how he assisted to free South Africa from apartheid, and I will show you letter Nigeria wrote to America and Britain warning them of the evils in their strong support for apartheid.

I seem to know South African history more than you do, reason why I said if not for Nigeria saving you, all you guys posting on Nairaland will not even have a laptop....and if you go to the beach for picnic, the apartheid white man's dog will eat you for it's own animal picnic. [/size]

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patches689: Anti-poaching is not an SANDF responsibility, as much as you try to say otherwise.

I slapped you with not one but 3 counter-arguments.

You just slapped yourself, mumu.

Your other 2 comments are more stupidd, so ignore them and answer the less stupidd one.

Anywhere in the world, when an army gets an order to do something, that thing becomes their responsibility. SANDF was ordered to enter Kruger park and stop Rhino poachers, it becomes their responsibility.

So sad to see the self acclaimed 'Masters of bush war' become a final failure in their own backyard bush, defeated by thieves armed with hunting rifles. SANDF una be real mumu

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patches689: Yeah the namer is a beast

But it would be completely usless to any nation other than isreal

Try to improve your life a bit by accepting simple corrections. Your fellow countryman is telling you that Israeli army and air force are probably the best men in the world and you are still twisting his tongue. Humility is a virtue, be a man.

MikeZA: The enemy position is fed to the command post with data links. Fire correction can be done by UAVs ans Reccon units. And NO,it doesn't mean the enemy is 10km away,ever heard about "shoot and scout" which SA gunners perfectly demonstrated in Angola.

South African army has NO direct fire weapon with range more than 10km....at that range you are exposed to Nigerian army weapons of the same equal range....in war, you k.ill and also get k.illed in the process.
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Thiza: POST 1994 SOWETO ROCKS

How many white people live there?

MikeZA: Yes,in terms IEDs,mines etc. Turret? You can remove the entire roof to mount whatever you want.

Chinese and Americans too can remove the whole roof of their MRAPS and mount whatever they want.

They are better engineers than your koeldrunk South African nation.

Msauza: Then SA saved you from the wrath of ABACHA.

Na South Africa k.ill Abacha inside Aso Rock?

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Thiza: @AUGUSTUS SEE THE NEW TRAINS THAT ARE COMING ON LINE IN 2015.....

Have you seen Nigeria's next train projects design for 2016 upwards? You think Nigerians sit down on one achievement like your drunkard Soweto brothers who have no job, drinking every day of the week still celebrating the same old time release of Mandela from prison 1994 ? [/size]

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MikeZA: This post=Facts.

Read the reply I gave him above, @Patches is a Domingo

patches689: It was leaked by who exactly? Nigeria has zero drones in services says who?

The people who sold them to you confirmed that none are operational as you failed to sign support contracts

The Gulma which has already entered service or the spy ballon which has and is still been used by troops and police in Mali and the north-east.

Yeah and the SANDF has a squadron of flying spagetti monsters

The bushmaster and the cougar are the world's leading MRAPs.

1. Bushmaster

Number built: 1,072
- flat hull
- flat sides
- used by 6 nations
- number of wars: 3

2. Cougar
Number built: 2002
- used by 11 countries
- number of wars 2

compared to

Casspir

Number built: 2500 - entire production run not recorded
- used by 20 nations
- fought in 8 wars

Gee, I wonder which is the best MRAP in the world

MiG-21 jet

Number built: 12,000
Wars fought: 30

Gripen jet

Number built: 300
Wars fought: zero

Gee, so MiG-21 is the best jet fighter in the world, right?

Dumbo Domingo

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