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agaugust: yes nigerian weapons manufacturing companies include DICON and PROFORCE, etc, google them. you came late to this topic, go read page 1 to 300.

nigeria manufactures its own domestically made assault rifles, general purpose machine guns, rocket propelled grenade launchers, armoured personnel carriers, amoured mobile mortar launchers, armoured infantry fighting vehicles, soldiers body armour/night vision equipment, soon artillery guns, long range 70km and 120km rockets and missiles under testing, ready land drones USV used in mali war, air drone UAV, two new Andoni class seaward defense gunboats, and 70% of a modern guided missile stealth light frigate being built in nigeria....

you under-estimated nigeria, you just jumped into this topic on page 304. welcome sir, see design below of new Type 056 stealth guided missile modern warship nigeria is building 70% of it locally and to be completed next year 2014....nigeria has moved very far advanced.

weblink source : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18300358

[img]http://chinadailymail.files./2013/02/01-china-stealth-frigate.jpg?w=750[/img]

[img]http://topnews.in/law/files/stealth-frigate01.jpg[/img]

Fighter Pilot: Listen here drunkard, SA does not dream, she manufactures her own weapons.

andrewza: What is your source for that. Do under stand. I know every detiale of the T-craft. So please show your source.
Barrcudia says other wise. Will try to dig up a pic but they belong to SF so not to many. And we have a few on order.

Defenceweb: AUGUSTINE IS A FRAUD

We have given our simulations of how Umbani and Paveway could very easily hit Roland without coming near the range of the Roland missiles. YOU are the one that claimed Umbani cannot hit Roland, but yet you refuse to give any evidence of why this is so. We have waited and waited, and now our only conclusion is that you are a fraud. Admit to your sins. State it here publically that you made a mistake, and we all shall forgive you. Or else give us the proof to back up your claim that Umbani and Paveway CANNOT hit a Roland SAM position. As long as we have a GPS position, Umabani and Paveway will hit it. Your best friend Wikipedia even states that Roland is poor at defending against incoming munitions. We are tired of waiting....give us your proof. Or you will be labelled a fraud.

andrewza: It is posbile to work off the roland to make somthing effective. This was done with the milane AGM by france. Even the A'darta can go back and trace it orgines to a number of 1990s AAM. So it is has I siad. You can not look at age you must look at what it can do.

andrewza: It still better than 90% of the stuff floating around africa inclunding nigeria. Not menstion you shold check what version of the ratelis being used.

Wepaons sytems are not like cars. A 60 year old sytem can still be verry effective to day. So instead of going about the age watch out for what it can do.

Donian007: Now i'm going to point out to you, 1st ure insinuating that Chad was better in operational capability in Mali than Nigeria, that's grave ignorance.

1: Nigeria already has a large franction of her troops serving around Africa. 2: Nigeria also has internal insurgencies to deal with in the South(Niger Delta which has thousands of Army Amphibian Special Forces+ Navy) Islamist Militants/Terrorist in the North with many more thousands of CTCOIN + Special Forces troops.

2.Now can that be said of Chad? Where u expecting Nigeria to always take the lead and yet get biasely lambasted by BBC, UK GUARDIAN, AL JAZEERA even unappreciated while other W.A countries expecially Ghana who is even Nigeria's Elder(Independence) sit dumb? A situation wch even France does not find itself in.

3: Chad has no Airlift capability, they were saved by the motorable access and link they have to get to Mali. Even Ghana can get to Mali by road but chose to b baby-backed by British Royal Airforce.

Note: even France had help from Canada, Britain, USA, etc but Nigeria neva had and never sought for any, yet was able to deploy jets, heli gunships, APCs, a battalion size troops, etc. U must not make ignorant assertions, get ur facts ryt.

I realy wld v luvd to take on u southafricans with facts but i'm too busy and reduce ur level insults u guys throw out. SHOU OUT 2, Agaustine, Henry, Fineline, Andrewza, Pilot, Dictator. D new guy needs to be shown a red card here-vulgar man!

Fighter Pilot: What is wrong with this pathetic Nigerian? All that he is on about is Nigeria's wish list of weapons. I wonder if Nigeria will use that wish list to fight its battle. Moreover he is waning forever about his outdated and phased-out Roland SAM's. Many countries that have been using those dinosaurs have long upgraded to more advanced SAM's which are more relevant to the war against modern new generation fighter jets. Do you even know that SAAB JAS 39 Gripen can arm with Taurus KEPD 350 missiles http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KEPD_350 which can penetrate dense air system at long ranges. Besides Roland SAM's only hit targets at close range (7000m) with a luck and more than that it becomes ineffective. New generation fighter jets have the ability to manuevre and manipulate Roland SAMs

andrewza: You do know that is a form of low jacking. If not I pitty you

andrewza: The T craft is not made of metal.

andrewza: Only drones are real small targets and when flying nap of the earth real hard to see.

Germain U-boats all most starved UK of all resources.

Please nigerias army is a joke.

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Nigeria buys weapons while SA build for themselves, from what I know there is 3 companies that manufacture weapons in SA, Denel, Armscor and Saab. Is there any in Nigeria?

andrewza:
Wepaons sytems are not like cars. A 60 year old sytem can still be verry effective to day. So instead of going about the age watch out for what it can do.

andrewza: It true though. At a distance the silioute is not that of a war ship. Who know the pirats may sail at it to high jack it.

andrewza: It still better than 90% of the stuff floating around africa inclunding nigeria. Not menstion you shold check what version of the ratelis being used.

andrewza: Please don't kid your self. You only making your self look like a fool.

Let's me go in depth. Satellite finds a frigate, beams that signal to the control stastion, the exact locastion and bearing is found, infomastion sent by radio to all the comanders, who inform all the guns. By this time we alterd course and the infomastion is old.

Please don't give me a internet lecture on GPS to some one that works on a naval veasel. GPS can not work on a moveing target.

andrewza: project suacepan is a full funded plan to replace the turbo dake. none the nigeria has only 2 ATR-42

andrewza: only sa is building the badger even so lets look at numbers again. 47 BTR3Us vs 600 in servis rattels 600 rattels in resserv and soon to be 250 badgers

andrewza: most of the nigerian boats you menstioned are not needed for SAN

andrewza: the olphant was built to kill the T72. The rooikat armed car can knock 2/3 of of tanks at 3000m

i have spoken to people who have flowen the hind, super hind and rooifalk. the rooifalk is the better of the 3

andrewza: i cant find proof of nigeria haveing the archer(witch the G6 out classes in any case and nigeria have only 25 APR-21s not 200M not to menstion the APR-21 is only a regualer BM21 on a diffrent truck. Somthing our MLRS was built to deaft.

andrewza: it looks like a smaller verson of the T-Craft in SAN, only a foward mand mg, instead of a more center remout MG. so it is not first in africa of it,s class.

DictatorZAR: Henry now you talking the crap, give me one domestic built UAV that's better then the Bateleur, Seeker-400 that's a armed drone or even the SKUA target drone that's the first supersonic drone on ever built on african soil not even Brazil, Pakistan or India has one in its class

The Amebo-III is way behind in subsystems and payload capabilities. SA is the first African Nation who used drones since the mid 1980's in Angola border war, and that's a verifiable fact.
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DictatorZAR: Now @Herny show me anything close to the REUTECH RRS RST-320 SAM in Nigeria's infantry, the G6-52Rhino which is unmatched in its class globally not even the Bofors Archer or Palmaria-155mm can match its range, rate of fire, accuracy, land speed, or self protection capabilities. This is just a mention of a few home made South African systems not to speak of the Y3 AGL which is also in its own class.

Defenceweb: Some businessman lied to the Nigerians by telling them every single boat they buy is "stealth"

Henry120: You know this is actually funny, but fork you.

Defenceweb: Did Augustine ever explain why Umbani and Paveway wouldn't work against Roland SAM?

Augustine Again: .
nigerian army brand new stealth fast attack X-38 combat catamaran gun boat, first of its kind in all africa

https://www.navy.mil.ng/gallery_images/DSC_1909%20-%20Copy.JPG

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sorry sir, i am NOT impressed by south african military arsenal too, you have too many old weapons and i proved that already and @andrewza agreed with me.

both nigeria and south africa have old and modern weapons mixed in their inventory, you are NOT better than us. period.

here is comparison below to show where nigeria has modern weapons and south african weapons in the same function are old.

(1.) south african 50 year old Dakota maritime aircraft vs nigerian world class super modern ATR-42 surveyor maritime aircraft

(2.) south african 35 years old Ratel armoured vehicle vs nigerian world class super modern BTR-3U and Cobra and VBL armoured fighting vehicle

(3.) south african 30 year old navy Gunboats/IPV vs nigerian navy world class super modern 40 units of stealth eagle and X-38 combat catamarans, 9 shaldags, 16 mantas, 15 defenders fast attack boats etc

(4.) south african 30 year old GV5 artillery vs nigerian super modern world class M-56 yugoslav artillery

(5.) south african 30 year old GDF 35mm anti-aircraft guns vs nigerian brand new world class super modern Type 90 35mm anti-aircraft guns

nigerian upgraded army tanks match south african tanks. helicopter gunships nigeria has more, artillery nigeria has much more artillery howitzers including the modern swedish made first class artillery and 200 latest modern yugoslav artillery.....so how is south africa better ? it is a only dream in the minds of people, it is NOT real.

if any military officer is not impressed by nigerian modern weapons, his young w.idow w.ife will be very impressed at his g.rave side after the nigerian weapons sends her soldier h.usband to his early g.rave when his c.offin/c.asket is lowered in the cemetary.

see comparison photos on page 300.


@Agaugust

Fighter Pilot: Chief, in your dreams!! Which Nigerian weapons are better than that of SA? Nigeria is one military that is still using the old technology to this age. You've got plenty of weaponry, but majority of them are just dinosaurs which have no relevance to this era of technology.

The whole world knows that SA is on the forefront in Africa in terms of military technology, not even Egypt can come close to that record.

gingerbeer: @AgaustAgain
You woke up from one of your RUBBISH DUMPS and decided to come back again.
BORN AND RAISED IN MAKOKO, MPAPE,ONITSHA ETC..ART WORK PLAYING TOY SOLDIER ONLINE.
Their uniform is made from CHINA, FONG KONG

https://www.nairaland.com/1062003/oshogbo-nigerias-most-beatiful-city/3

saengine: https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/SEA/SEA_NEW/umkhonto.jpg
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/SEA/SEA_NEW/umkhonto5_400x300.jpg

Umkhonto surface-to-air fired off SAS Amatola

saengine: What a sad attempt at escaping. I'm sure your fellow Nigerians feel sorry for you right now. You said we CANNOT hit the Roland without coming close to it and expose itself to deadly Roland fire-power.. Did you not say that? Now you want to get technical weather it is a bomb or a missile.

Mr Augustine....in very plain English. YES or NO.....can a 500kg Mk83 Umbani bomb kit hit and destroy your Roland system from 100km away? YES or NO....can we hit your Roland system from outside the operational range of Roland? Yes or No?

DictatorZAR: Now you show me anything better in Nigeria then the S-300 and the South African SAM's Systems, and please don't try to change the subject.

saengine: Just as I suspected. You asked for proof that South Africa has long range stand-off weapons. You were given proof, now can't be a man and say you were wrong or made a mistake. How sad. We can hit your SAM systems from 100km away. That is a fact, just accept it.

agaugust: show us web link source proof of south africa's long range stand off surface to air missile that can be launched by Grippen jet against nigerian Roland SAM. south africa does NOT have any such missile as at today so it CANNOT hit the Roland without coming close to it and expose itself to d.eadly Roland fire-power. you failed again sir

andrewza: it looks like a smaller verson of the T-Craft in SAN, only a foward mand mg, instead of a more center remout MG. so it is not first in africa of it,s class.

project suacepan is a full funded plan to replace the turbo dake. none the nigeria has only 2 ATR-42

only sa is building the badger even so lets look at numbers again. 47 BTR3Us vs 600 in servis rattels 600 rattels in resserv and soon to be 250 badgers


you comparing appels to oranges. Any case project biro will see SA build a number of new ships for SAN. most of the nigerian boats you menstioned are not needed for SAN


you do know thhey both the same guns. only thanks to ZA-link our guns will respond faster.

the olphant was built to kill the T72. The rooikat armed car can knock 2/3 of of tanks at 3000m

i have spoken to people who have flowen the hind, super hind and rooifalk. the rooifalk is the better of the 3


i cant find proof of nigeria haveing the archer(witch the G6 out classes in any case and nigeria have only 25 APR-21s not 200M not to menstion the APR-21 is only a regualer BM21 on a diffrent truck. Somthing our MLRS was built to deaft.