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Fighter Pilot: Empty tins makes a lot of noise and you must avoid them as much as you can. No matter how hard you will correct them, but they will remain fools for the better part of their lives.

all because of your cowardice, i hanged your air force uniform on a mango tree beside that of @andrewza

is there any truly competent south african soldier here again ? show your soweto face now if you have the courage !

andrewza: Please don't kid your self. You only making your self look like a fool.
I never even spoke about nigeria. I just said SA would never send all 4 frigats.

And you expext me to beilfe sweeden does under cover deals with a country who's nilltary has been knowen to kill civlians? Non of those 2 sites give a source of a acredite site or persone for there numbers. So I bielfe them has much has I bielfe you. And that cattermrain is not even worth of menstion, it probally part of (a large number of boats). I am willing to beilfe nigeria bought the 35mm aa gun for now. Beegal is not a source. It just a blog that is it. And no true source indecats that nigeria has received any archers 155mms. You tell us you work in deffense industry, so use your company janes subscriptsion.

Let's me go in depth. Saterlight finds a frigat, beams that signal to the control stastion, the exact locastion and bearing is found, infomastion sent by radio to all the comanders, who inform all the guns. By this time we alterd course and the infomastion is old.

Please don't give me a internet lecture on GPS to some one that works on a naval veasel. GPS can not work on a moveing target.

The only way your MPA could inform the guns is via radio. Well well in the range of the frigats EW sytems. And it is bascaly going to alert the ship that there locastion is knowen. So sail deep until it runs out of fuel. You only have 2 of them.

And nigeria is buying the opv version.

How about useing the sources those 2 unacredited websites used.

the post/reply you just wrote above has no single source to prove your claims, its all thrash, compare your post to my own above...you talk a lot to your self and the farmers in your village.

you are well known for posting lies on the naval blockade battle, you said south africa has umhkonto anti-aircraft missile with 40km range and i posted weblink source to prove you wrong, then you padlocked your mouth, s_hameless liar south african soldier. almost all your claims cannot be trusted again since you openly tell lies about south african weapons capabilities in real combat situation, you lost your public credibility in this nairaland forum.

andrewza: All so only the no longer in producstion MK1 has a 15km range. The longest ranged umkhonto is 40km.

show me proof of your bogus lie claimed above of 40km. umkhonto MK2 missile range is 15km maximum as at today. stop telling lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_missile

dont believe nigeria has Type 90 35mm new anti-aircraft defense, that is how you did not believe seleka rebels until they put south african army inside the mud, you just make a F00L of yourself, nigerian new weapon that is shown in clear photos in kaduna city nigerian army artillery base, 3 clear photos of it and weblink source i posted on this forum a few pages back, then you say you will 'believe for now' , dont even bother to believe. i leave the public to read your post and my own and judge us. i wont wate my time talking on a point i already proved right.

answer my question on the nigerian Type 056 OPV and list its weapons with weblink source if you have the courage as a man, or you padlock y_our mouth forever.

your b.rainwork and post/comment/reply is far inferior. i class you as a sub-standard navy soldier.

nairaland people, kindly take over if you have comment on @andrewza's post vs @agaugust posts made on this page. i am done with naval blockade simulation. i thank all those who read the simulation with an open mind and logical reasoning plus common sense.

good night, will be back again tomorrow night, see you in 24 hours.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Henry thanks for your time.and explanation.

sorry bros, i didnt contribute answer to your question because these south africans were looking for my h_ead, so i had to solve that issue. @Henry and @Samboss994 have both given you good answers on war definitions and types. if you ask more questions i will also contribute. time to sleep bros, its late night. cheers ! greet paul biya and manu debango.

DictatorZAR: I tried to keep my cool but this foolish ish right here made me laugh.

Have you ever heard of the Paveway which the SAAF Grippens are armed with and Umbani/Raptor III stand off PGM's which Pakistan ordered from Denel SA which is specifically for use against Bunkering, tanks, Bofors, Type90AAA and not to speak of the relic Roland. The Raptor/Umbani and Paveway has ranges beyond 30-50KM so we can do reconnaissance and 1min later send in the PGM's to take out all those SAM's.

Here is the paveway and Umbani.

Your so called strategy of AAA is useless when facing such weapons

you never learnt your lesson ? everytime you challenge me you get into the mud. i dont d_rill y_our c_oconut head too much because y_ou already have too many leaking holes in y_our s_kull already augustine is a merciful guy sometimes

i will white-wash @saengine tomorrow night, please come and watch the show as it will relate to your above post as well. that guy named @sa engine, i will remove the sa...then his....engine will knock

saengine: The Umbani, the development of which was funded by the DoD, has been integrated on to the SAAF’s Hawks (which have an operational as well as a training role) and the PGM has won a major export contract. “We have a project to extend the range to 200 km,” he reveals.

Find that half way down the page at this link http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-african-missile-company-provides-sandf-and-friendly-countries-with-force-multipliers-2011-08-26

Now are you done embarrasing yourself? Our Hawk jets can fly comfortably out of range of your Roland system, and hit them at 100km away. And before you say you will "shoot down" our bombs.....every country in the world has thousands of MK bombs. You will run out of Roland missiles long long long before we run out of bombs, and that is a fact. Do you have a reply to this post or are you going to ignore it like you always do when someone proves you wrong?

i never ignored any post, i fear nobody except God. check my 1,200 post on this forum, i always reply to challenge, it is your south african coward soldiers that are running away from me like @Fighter Pilot ran away from Gripen vs Roland when he saw the disaster ending @andrewza's failed naval blockade simulation.

i answered @DefenceWeb's challeng to me on A-Darter missile and since then he has padlocked his mouth. i will white-wash y_ou tomorrow, its night, i just spent 2 hours after work to lecture @andrewza in the post above.

i am coming to lecture you too tomorrow night after office work, so before i come, begin to pee pee in y_our boxers because its very hard to put my back on the floor, very very hard.

@andrewza, i gave you one of the biggest shocks of y_our life in that naval blockade counter attack. you said nigeria will attack the south african warships with NNS ARADU, NNS THUNDER, Alpha Jets and F-7 Jets. unfortunately for y_ou, i counter attacked using nigerian army artillery, not the nigerian navy and airforce you expected

i have said that you south african military lose war/battle because you only think of what you want to do to your enemy, you never think of different things your enemy will do to you in retaliation. that is why seleka rebels d_isgraced the fine boys and fine weapons of south african army in CAR.

if you will humble yourself, i have spent 2 hours of my precious time at night after office work to write some very useful combat knowledge for you below. if you are humble, you will gain from it for your own good. thanks

andrewza: No milltary force is ever 100%. It has never happended.

are you d_eaf and d_umb ? i did not use 100% of nigeria's artillery, i used only 675 out of about 1,300 and that is just about 50% only. are you so d_umb you cannot do simple mathematics, count the artillery section on wikipedia or army recognition. even if i use 25% nigerian army will still bombard south african navy's unlucky blockade warships with 2,000 shells in one minute and your ships wont even have time to move away, they will all be sunk to sea bottom. stop making childish assumptions or i will stop wasting my time to reply you.

andrewza: Nigeria dose not have the archer, nor any GPS guided 155mm rounds though it not like they any use against a moveing target.

you CANNOT find all nigerian military weapons on internet or arms transfer logs, UN, IISS, SIPRI etc. did you see the Type 90 anti-aircraft guns or stealth X-38 combat catamaran in any log? if i tell you nigeria has a new air defence weapon not written in any arms sales records will you believe me ? you believed because i posted photos of Type 90 from Beegeagle website, what if he did not post the photos, does it mean nigeria does not have that air defense weapons ?

try and use your b.rain, i dont think you are too old and grey haired. use your common sense, everybody has been telling you here on nairaland that you cannot find all nigerian weapons on any internet source of published media. i just proved it with the Type 90 and X-38 weapons, and there are many more that even i will never know until war comes and nigeria begins to bring out deadly weapons that no public knows about except the manufacturer.

48 Bofors Archer mobile artillery is on the list of weapons nigeria has ordered or received, see weblink below you F00L, i posted it many times on this forum, do i have to repeat it again ?

I QUOTE...

"Between 2001 and 2008, the Nigerian Armed Forces entered into contractual agreements and/or taken delivery of the following:

18 additional units of Oto Melara 105 mm howitzers
23 additional units of Palmaria 155mm self-propelled howitzers
48 units of BOFORS Archer 155 mm gun-howitzers"

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/army.htm

andrewza: The data from the saterlight will have to be relayed and so will not be real time. Never mind cloude cover or tecgnal break down.

did you watch world cup 2006 live matches played in Germany on television in south africa ? if a player scores a goal in germany, how many hours does it take you to see that same goal on TV in a live televised match ? do you want to take the world's scientific progress back to stone age ?

satellites get images real time, that is why they are used to watch tornado/hurricane storms and exact precise movement and timing reports are transmitted immediately to earth meteriological/weather stations. satellites monitor road traffic and report real time to city traffic controls about traffic jam streets.

now come my small boy, time for classroom teaching again, welcome my dear student, sit down and learn from your teacher :

satellite is not sending south african ships photographs to nigerian army artillery, it is sending GPS position that get picked afresh every time the ship moves and it is communicated by phone or radio to artillery commanders from the nigerian satellite control rooms on earth.

that GPS coordinate is the same one that professional land surveyors use to pin pont accurately a single small house on earth....it looks like this : N45.036701 W73.155082, or like this : 556065.114mE 712465.740mN , it never misses target, very accurate to reveal position of ground and people called professional land surveyors all over the world use it. GPS means Global Positioning System, it targets and reveals your exact position anywhere in the world even if you are just 6 feet length and breath.

this weblink will help your poor military knowledge of GPS and earth targeting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

now my boy, the two secret of artillery guns targeting are called AZIMUTH, or the other one BEARINGS. these are mathematical/geometrical/physics/projectiles calculations using the GPS numbers to calculate how far the target is from the artillery guns and the angles of elevaton/depression/rotation of the guns and it is done by analog calculation in 5 minutes or digital calculations by artillery FDC unit.

nigerian artillery fire will be so much and so well spread around like a spiders web that south african warships wont have any time to move out of it, and in case the slow ships move , the satellite generates a new coordinate immediately and send the message to earth in seconds and the ATR-42 surveyor aircraft surveys the ships moving from the air and regularly re-directs artillery fire according to the ships movement, if the ships move the artillery guns adjusts accordingly, it is a very d_eadly trap that only God in heaven can save the south african warships, they sailed into a trap well feared in all war history...the wide artillery web of raining shells in rapid fire mode.

so my small boy, the nigerian satellite is not sending your ships photos, also the ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft will do the same mapping and artillery fire control/re-directing job, any of the two systems will send your exact coordinates or call it geographical bearings to our ground forces and south african warships become breakfast and barbecue for nigerian artillery, sorry we have to sink the ships.

andrewza: Nigeria is get 2 opvs from china. Nothing more. You not get any frigats or any thing like that. Just more opvs.

The Type 056 is the first Chinese warship with module design, which makes it cover the roles from OPV to multi-role frigate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette

now write a list of the weapons that will be on the nigerian navy new stealth type 056 warship with your own source...i really want you to d_isgrace yourself with your own hands today. write the weapons list on the ship with source to prove your claim

andrewza: All so how did you gett 800 arty guns for nigeria. I count around of them over 300 are mortas.

nigeria has about 1,300 artillery guns and mortars on weblink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Army and the global security weblink above

ask your son to help you with mathematics, since you cannot add numbers by yourself. i cannot be teaching you every thing all the time. i just spent my time to teach you artillery azimuth/bearing basics and you never say thank you for any new things i teach you on this forum, you south africans are so ungrateful people.

andrewza: You are a master of missinfomastion. So either you enjoy twisting the truth. Or you don't know it.

almost everytime your posts have NO weblink source but my own posts are full of good technical sources. who is telling the truth or just telling his own private dreams ? the readers will judge us.

i just proved with this post that you are the one that mis-informs people here and that you dont know how ordinary field artillery operates. thats why i seized y_our navy uniform and i hanged it on a mango tree until further notice

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Fighter Pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRlY0PXfd30&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoRlY0PXfd30

Nigerian soldier wants justice against his government

the video is surely fake, the whole anti-b.oko h.aram operation area in northern nigeria is under state of emergency law, no journalists allowed, on international observers allowed, so how did al-jazeera enter nigerian army controlled war zone to interview and video this fake soldier ?

how did the soldier leave his platoon in war zone to move foreign journalists around in a war zone without other soldiers arresting him for supporting the enemy? simple common sense.

@Fighter Pilot, what is your I.Q. level ? too low for an air force officer, another low quality product from south africa

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andrewza: What do you many. I told you. Ignore and fly over it. Then use presion, stand off wepaons on either the roland or the target. I mean how many misseils did the roland fire to it 1 harrier. A subsomic poor manvarbly jet fighter.

i posted that fact from free wikipedia history twice before to educate you better. Harrier jet is not a slow jet fighter its maximum speed is 1,083km/hr and that is too fast for launching air to ground attack against a small targets like an armoured vehicles. one Roland SAM fired 8 missiles and 3 hit target shooting down two 1,000 pound bombs in the sky and the Harrier jet that dropped the bombs in falklands war, google search is free.

weblink source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_missile

i have put you in my teaching classroom again today, say thank you my boy

andrewza: What do you many. I told you. Ignore and fly over it. Then use presion, stand off wepaons on either the roland or the target. I mean how many misseils did the roland fire to it 1 harrier. A subsomic poor manvarbly jet fighter.

There is no need for SAAF to fly low and there for in the threat area of the roland. But you are fool and don't under stand that. Not to menstion Adarter can shoot down the roland misseil.

south african air force does NOT have the capability to do high altitude air to ground attacks on nigerian army air defences, only the great powers of the world have that long range high altitude stand off weapons capability like america, russia, china, india, britain, france, germany and a few other european/asian powers. no country in africa from cape town to cairo has that special capability, you will all have to fly jets at low altitude to attack nigerian army effectively or else you waste your bombs by dropping them on a cassava farm !

the A-Darter missile you mentioned is not in service as at today in south africa, it is still in developmental stage, i just posted the weblink source on page 299, or are you in a beer party intoxicated ?


show us web link source proof of south africa's long range stand off surface to air missile that can be launched by Grippen jet against nigerian Roland SAM. south africa does NOT have any such missile as at today so it CANNOT hit the Roland without coming close to it and expose itself to d.eadly Roland fire-power. you failed again sir

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSSosDM8yG4

https://centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/20120503-03.jpg

nigerian navy confirms 2 of its 4 new stealth guided missile warships arrive next year.


http://www.punchng.com/news/nigerias-survival-depends-on-sea-navy-chief/


SOUTH AFRICAN NAVY'S BLOCKADE FAILS....AND NIGERIAN MILITARY WINS

andrewza: Even during WW2 navies could not get 100% readness. You assume we would operate close to the coast. Why would we do that.

only a F00L will go to war and assume that his enemy is not 100% ready. i did not even use all nigerian artillery, i reserved over 200 artillery guns including all 100 longest range self propelled artillery that shoot up to 40km range into the far ocean area HEAT shells and 60km EXCALIBUR shells, open your eyes and read my post again.

even if you stay 50km away from nigerian coast you are still be hit by 50 powerful archer modern self propelled artillery in rapid fire mode.

the more you stay far away the more your naval blockade becomes a comedy drama, ordinary pirates will sail through the gaps, you want to use 3 warships to police nigerias 800km coastline and stay 50km away in deep ocean. do you know mathematics ? that is 40,000 sq km inner shore and EEZ of 300,000 sq km you want to police with only 3 ships ? you drink beer this morning sir ? nigerian navy uses over 300 warships/fast patrol boats to police our waters and yet some pirates sail through the gaps sometimes. you want to use 3 warships to do the work of 300 warships/fast patrol boats ? did you pass exam in military academy or they just recruited you because south africa has serious manpower shortages ?

andrewza: All those massive tanker and cargo ships will still be strandard. We have no need to stop every singil ship. Just deprive the nigerian econmy to give a card in forceing what ever our point was.

did you forget that nigeria has more gas than oil ? and the west african gas pipeline for export is on land not ocean, and it exports gas from nigeria to ghana and off to europe every day. also because your 3 warships are too few for and too far away from shallow coast waters of 40,000 sqkm, many nigerian flat bottom oil transport barges will easily sail through the wide gaps along shallow coasts and creeks waters and and we export crude oil to french giant ocean tankers in the seaports of benin republic and cameroon, especially our nigerian/french total fina elf oil company.

you cannot stop nigeria's oil/gas money from coming in. nigeria has $50 Billion cash reserve we dont even need to spend, no bankruptcy. please dont get intoxicated with alcohol sir.

andrewza: How will they find any thing. They turn on there radar we jam it. All so only the no longer in producstion MK1 has a 15km range. The longest ranged umkhonto is 40km.

are you b.lind to read ? i said no radar is used by satellite or i need to write dutch/afrikaans languages for you ?

show me proof of your bogus lie claimed above of 40km. umkhonto MK2 missile range is 15km maximum as at today. stop telling lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_missile

andrewza: So your plan is to reyly full on over land trade. That fine. It just means you will over burden the sytem or cut down on profit. You seem to think we need a 100% success rate. We only need to affect your incom a littel to bank rupt you. Nigeria get most of her trade through sea trade.

your geography/economics knowledge is weak, a lot of imports to nigeria today come through the sea port in Benin republic from cotonou to lagos by land. sorry you failed again.

andrewza: You sure you in the defense idustry. To move 800 guns you need to move 800 guns. So that is 800 vechils. Plus you need ammo. Atleast a nother 800. Not to menstion support crew, food, accomdastion, HQ untis exra extra. Even the USA struggels with that. The thing that slowed them down the most in Iraq was the logistics.

you mean giant nigeria has no 800 lorries/trucks, no 800 x 5 soldiers, no food for the soldiers, no logistics to operate inside home country....while you claim south african navy can operate 5,000km away from its own home....are you in your office or in a beer drink bar already drunk ? how do 150 million nigerians movey heavy goods and heavy industrial equipment around in nigeria ?

andrewza: That saterlight is not going to guied shells. The infomastion will not be real time.

you illiterate man modern satellite information is real time since year 1977, it tracks storms and gives advance and current weather information and ground movements including road traffic. did you go to school in a bush or village farm ? all the satellite will do is pick south african warships GSP coordiante position and the ships become an easy target for artilley guns who will do firing calculations by geometric azimuth or bearings or computer aided FDC to rain shells on them like thunder.

andrewza: Once again the MPA can look through the camra us. It may get shot down. And the valour can carry cruisse missiels a long range SAMs.

south african valour frigate has no missiles to shoot down aircraft 30km away. i posted proof above. also south africa has no long range cruise missiles. post a source and prove it...there is none...dont waste your time, i researched all your weapons very well

andrewza: Fact is nigeria has no means to threaten our SUB.

read my post again, i rendered your submarine useless and it will quickly run out of fuel/diesel trying to move around nigeria's 40,000 sqkm inner coastal waters, nigeria's EEZ waters is even bigger at over 300,000 sq km size. i said this before that nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor is a modular aircraft technically the same as ATR-72 ASW, we just import the anti-submarine sonar, torpedoes and few extra hardware, then we hunt and d.estroy your submarine after we sink the valour frigates with nigerian army artillery and there is no more anti-aircraft threat.


stop wasting my time, i wont reply you again after i already sank all south african warships to sea bottom, please stop writing F00LISH military ideas like a street police man or border immigration officer.


you should be ashamed to even reply me, i used only nigerian army to defeat you, i did not use any of nigerian navy's 4 brand new stealth guided missile warships coming from china and india next year 2014 i posted on top this page, how will your ships play with those our new ships ? you think it is a christmas party ? your naval blockade is a big joke for a comedy TV show.

when you lose an argument, try be honest and mature enough to admit defeat.

goodbye sir....your navy uniform remains hanging on a mango tree.

satellite will find warships and see them as they move around on the sea, satellites are active 24 hours every day of the year.

see real time satellite view of warships from outer space, accurate and perfect, and the GPS coordinate locations is perfectly tracked by satellite to know their exact sea location.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Wfm_suisun_reserve_fleet.jpg/300px-Wfm_suisun_reserve_fleet.jpg

andrewza: And I have all ready shown you how your roland means nothing to SAAF.

you showed me nothing, and all you coward south african soldiers on this forum run away from my challenge to simulate Gripen vs Roland...you know i will hang your boxer shorts on mango tree with that one, after hanging your navy uniform on mango tree from naval blockade failure.

[size=16pt] all cowards from sons of south africa, is there no one of you to accept my new challenge ? Gripen Jet vs Roland SAM battle field simulation, or the whole of south africa is born to be cowards in war ? [/size]

Fighter Pilot: Nigerian soldiers are offloading their stress on innocent civilians by killing score of people instead of their target. One Nigerian soldier leaked the video to media;

Read and watch the video as well.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/05/31/soldier-leaks-footage-and-insists-the-military-is-killing-more-civilians-than-boko-haram-men-watch/

your poor video posted above shows no image of any civilians killed, and the voice and face of the 'invisible' source was hidden, and no images to show the claim of civilian death, even a farmer in soweto will not believe that poor evidence. try some new google search my friend, i can see you are now desperately doing random searches to satisfy your anger a failed revenge mission. you must be sweating heavily by now sir .

Fighter Pilot: NIGERIAN ARMY ROUTINELY DOWNPLAY NUMBER OF CASUALTIES IN CLASHES WITH INSURGENTS;

Read below;
http://www.newsinnigeria.org/2013/05/just-in-42-dead-in-nigeria-extremist-attacks.html

sorry sir your google search mis-fired, the above is a long ago incident about 6 weeks backwards, debated vigorously on this thread for a whole week, you were not here then, so dont take us back....and those casualties were NOT nigerian army soldiers but ordinary civilians according to the very source you quoted.

if civilians die because they allowed bh.oko h.aram to hide inside their neigbhorhood like civilians on grounds of religious sympathy, then it is nemesis, such civilians are reaping what they sow. nothing wrong in that.

civilians will always die in war, tens of thousands of innocent afghanistan civilians died when america and NATO forces invaded to find o.s.ama b.iin l.aden, or your own military academy lecturers told you another propaganda lie on that war ?

try to post comments that will earn you intellectual credit from wise readers on this forum. sorry you played penalty kick over the bar.

Ostatomilola: From survey. South africa has d strongest while nigeria has the largest

welcome sir, kindly post details or web link source of that survey. i hope you had time to view the 300 pages of this thread/topic/forum, its the best survey in the world for this topic today. thanks

Fighter Pilot: BOKO HARAM CHIEF DISMISSES NIGERIAN ARMY AS SMALL BOYS WHOSE OFFENSIVE IS FAILING TO CRASH THIS FOUR YEAR OLD INSUGENCY;

http://beta.dawn.com/news/1014708/boko-haram-rebels-say-nigerian-military-offensive-is-failing

Nigeria: Close Associate of Bh.oko H.aram Leader, S.heka.u, Found D.ead -

http://allafrica.com/stories/201305290596.html

see my post before this got hidden by nairaland administrator, i was warned of posting heavy info on b.ooko h.aram, i may not respond to the topic all the time, it will get me banned out of forum. i am trying my luck now again with this risky post.

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Defenceweb: I think I only post in this forum when I notice loud mouth Augustine ignoring posts he can't answer. Augustine, you were asked to show us the technical details of the A Darter missile. We are waiting.

why should any weapons manufacturer in the world post source codes or computer progarmming codes on internet ? even toyota cars dont do it.

why should i need programming codes to defeat you in war ? i dont. i need the basic specifications like firing range, altitude, rate of fire, type of guidance radar/infra red, warhead expolosive size, number in cluster, etc.

thats how i defeated @andrewza in naval blockade war simultaion, i know from internet search that south african valour frigates have anti-aircraft umkhonto missiles with MK 1 range 12km, MK 2 range 15km, the R version is not yet developed and plan is 25km range, so i flew nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft at 30km away from nigerian coast to spy on your navy ships and direct coastal artillery fire and sank all your nice looking navy to sea bottom.

here are the A Darter missile details i need in time of war, even much more information than what your enemy needs to defeat you. free internet google information...

its very hard to put my back on the floor, you only embarrass your.self in the process, sorry you lost as usual

you just made a F00L of yourself again today, i give you 3 sources...the missile range is 20km, infra red guidance system...read more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-Darter

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/a-darter-air-to-air-missile/

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-brazil-to-develop-adarter-sraam-03286/

@Defenceweb i personaly challenge you to a new war simulation, Gripen Jet VS Roland SAM, if you were born a man with honour, please accept my challenge or else i will call you a coward in front of your country men here.


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andrewza: I now doubt if you even a accountant.

you will soon doubt everything including your own name.

Fighter Pilot: Heaven knows these SAAB Gripen Jets are giving you sleepless nights. Do not worry we will donate them to Nigeria if that will relieve your stress. LMFAO!!!

thanks sir, your offer appreciated, but we dont want your Gripen jets that end up in a cold freezer long term storage.

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[size=16pt]corrupt south african politicians were bribed $3.6 million to buy Gripen Jets[/size]

Fighter Pilot: That one was supersonic, just imagine people being paid to keep mum. Just imagine being paid for the death of the breadwinner without close friends and neighbours noticing the abrupt disappearance of their loved ones. Here in SA we do not live in Bushes where you can simply disappear without any trace. We have neighbours, colleagues and friends and even associates. These lies were concocted by those who lost and wanted to draw some cheap attention. Conspiracy theories indeed!!!

"JOHANNESBURG, South Africa - South African police have reopened their investigation into a controversial arms deal after Swedish defense group Saab admitted bribes were paid to clinch a contract, according to a July 31 report.

Officials will approach authorities in Sweden and Britain to find out what their investigations have uncovered about allegations of corruption in the 1999 deal for 26 JAS Gripen fighter jets, South Africa's Sunday Times reported.

Saab last month admitted that 24 million rand ($3.6 million, 2.5 million euros) in bribes had been paid to south africans secure the deal, but blamed its former British partner BAE Systems for making the payoffs."

bribe can be paid to families of dead south african soldiers k.illed by seleka, to make the families shut up. south africa is a corrupt country taking bribes from sweden too to buy 26 Gripen jets they dont have money to maintain.


weblink source : http://www.defensenews.com/article/20110731/DEFSECT01/107310301/S-Africa-Reopens-Probe-Into-Gripen-Bribes-Report

Fighter Pilot: This guy is clearly angry and jealous for THE MIGHT OF SANDF. My fellow brethren I think SA must sell these Gripen jets because they aches the hearts of our fellow Nigerians.

Shilka AAA, Bofors AAA, Type 90 AAA, Roland SAM, Akash SAM coming to join these other nigerian air defense weapons arsenal....south african Grippen jets are just like small pigeon birds for us to shoot down in 5 minutes.

Henry120: Yes sir, I did sir. I really do not know a lot aboout AA weaponry. I want to take time, read it thoroughly, get more info and learn.

i can explain some deatils about air defence weapons operations on battlefieLd if the south africans accept my challenge to simulate war of Grippen jet Vs Roland SAM and Type 90 AAA.

good air defence equipment is one of the most difficult weapons in the world for jet aircraft to destroy...even america feared the 30 year old air defence of yugoslavia before NATO attack of Bosnia war, american air force refused to fly the very modern F-15/F-16 against so called old outdated yogoslavian SAM-2/SAM-3 air defences....we feared they will shoot us down because they dont fight so much according to their technology age, they depend on other tactics...america did not attack until we did SEAD and then fly in, yet we still got shot down several times by air defence.

israeli air force is the greatest victim of air defence in modern war history, they lost very many jet aircraft, may be about 100 jets to arab SAM and AAA air defences.

Henry120: .

i just posted the detailed specs of nigeria's brand new sophisticated Type 90 anti-aircraft guns on page 297, one of the best AAA weapons in the world today. did you see the data sir ?

Defenceweb: Someone with logic please tell me WHERE those extra 35 dead troops are They all got buried secretly? All 35 families got paid to keep quiet? And to this day not a single family member or friend has said anything? They all got paid to keep quiet If you believe that, then it means you also believe in the tooth fairy. Please don't post rubbish with so called anonymous sources. Why did that so called source remain anonymous? Scared that SA troops would go back to Bangui airport and kill him? Boko Haram has claimed that Nigerian troops are dropping their weapons and running away....do you Nigerias also believe that? These rebel groups such as Seleka and Boko Haram dont mind telling lies when faced with a bigger force. And to answer Augustine, yes Seleka was heavily armed with technicals. SA troops on the ground only had mortars, rockets and their rifles. No armour, no artillery etc etc.

its a bad world of inequalities among people. some dead south soldiers may have no family, some orphans, some with illiterate parents, some families can be bribed with money to keep quiet in national interest, politicians can do anything when they are desperate and still on the throne of power.

if you dont want us to believe that over 50 south african soldiers were k.illed by Seleka rebels, why should we believe that south african army k.illed 800 seleka rebels....simple logic, common sense.

so then we can assume that both sides lost equal numbers of men just for assumption sake to solve this dispute, then who won the battle ? the side that remains on ground to control the battle field after fight ended, seleka rebels won the battle.

so who lost the battle ? the side that ran away from the battle field to the airport to beg for france's army protection is the loser, south african army lost the battle in disgrace from farmer rebels.

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https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66715000/jpg/_66715969_afp.jpg


[size=16pt]france publishes south africa soldiers CAR death numbers...over 50 k.illed by seleka rebels[/size]

andrewza: Please give your source. Because the fact remains just over 200 SA solders held there base against the full might of seleka. Killing hundreds of enemy.

The claim seleka was poorly armend is all so wrong. They out gunded the SA forces there. They had 120mm motars, 23mm auto canons,30mm AGLs proper camo and uniform, techncals extra extra. SA had 4 12.7mm 4 86mm motars a few 107mm MlRS and to littel ammo.

where did you find details of seleka's weapons list ? you entered their armoury to inspect ? south africa was better armed with modern and high calibre weapons as you all show us on this forum, dont tell me your soldiers forgot their best weapons in soweto and went to CAR and faced Seleka rebels armed like ordinary police men.

now the propaganda lies from south africa is proved wrong by radio france international


“And according to another source the death toll could be even higher,” the RFI reporter added. “The source, who wants to remain anonymous, was at the French military base on Monday March 25, the day after Bangui fell to the rebels. He said he counted at least 50 body bags about to be loaded onto a Hercules transport plane heading for Pretoria. All the while, other dead bodies of South African soldiers kept arriving.”

Bensimon said that other military and diplomatic sources had confirmed to him that the number of South Africans killed was “more than 40”.

South Africa downplayed the number of soldiers killed in the fighting.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130404-south-africa-deaths-central-african-republic-mining-oil-anc


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[quote author=CAMEROONPRIDE][/quote]chief you no dey sleep ? its 3:43am in your part of the world

Fighter Pilot: Let me tell you, I am well trained to handle spies like you. You will never surely succeed in fishing information from me. You are just a scout in training. I have long passed that stage

faces of many south african soldiers, special ops, pilots, and commanding officers are freely available for the whole world to see on free public internet, just google it and you have plenty of it. or your own computer has no google search engine ?

no need to even spy your country, all south african weapons imported from overseas are detailed for public information in wikipedia, general military internet websites like armyrecognition.com, international public arms/weapons transfer logs/registers like SIPRI of sweden, UN REGISTER, IISS military balance, JANES Defense, etc.

also the domestically manufactured weapons made in south africa are also all fully detailed with all technical specifications on free internet in the effort to find export buyers in the international market.

just google it and you get it. so where is the secret ? or you have nuclear weapon in your own b.edroom ?

see the full face photo below of colonel pierre venter the leader of south african air force Grippen jet pilots, likely your best fighter jet pilot, its free on internet, i just googled it, simple. one of your scarce, precious qualified 8 or 6 Grippen jet pilots

https://www.af.mil.za/news/014/MDN_6061_1.jpg

Fighter Pilot: I have already sent your post for international intelligence purposes to be investigated.

thank you sir, i am waiting to see what happens next from SASS or INTERPOL.

saengine: This is an answer given by the defence committee regarding the number of pilots. This was in 2010. The total number of pilots who are qualified and able to fly SA Gripen jets is more than 6, much more.

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=215199&sn=Detail&pid=71654

Mr P.J. Groenewald (FF Plus) to ask the Minister of Defence and Military Veterans:

How many operational fighter pilots does the SA Air Force currently command

REPLY

10 Gripen aircrew (8 Pilots and 2 Navigators) and 13 Hawk aircrew (13 Pilots)

many sources quote 6, now you quote 8 Grippen pilots. lets just assume you are correct, what is the big difference between 6 and 8 ? i just decide not to remind you that nobody has ever seen more than 6 south african grippen jets fly together at one time. also dont confuse pilots trained to fly Grippen into the air and land it in peace, and pilots qualified to fly Grippen jets into air for combat missions and land it in war, by Grippen manufacturers specified standards.

your hawk jets too you have only 13 pilots. south african air force has bad shortage of combat pilots.

did you go to school ? if you score 8 out of 26 in an exam did you pass or fail ? if south african air force has 26 Grippen jets and only 8 pilots to fly them, did your country pass or fail ?

south african military is a bulldog with all its teeth fallen out except only 8 teeth remaining to try and bite.

6 Grippen jets again, maximum number flying is always 6.
https://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Gripen/Gripen%20for%20Sweden/saab_gripen_formation_001_2000.jpg

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@Fighter Pilot, you can limit your level to what happens only inside soweto republic called south africa.

no big secret in war simulations, any country can hire a mercenary retired asian, european, or american colonel and pay him some $50,000 to do a full scale simulation of south africa vs nigeria military in war, he will do it if he is a good combatant soldier, he will get all the list of imported weapons of both our countries from internet.

the world is a free place and people have skills and knowledge that can be bought with some thousand dollars. simple.