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[quote author=yahoo! link=topic=550959.msg7180255#msg7180255 date=1290235773]The question now is what will the money gotten from the exercise used for [/quote]It's legal 419 by a federal agency and we still wonder why the western nations see all of us as corrupt.

Lagishan:
Really sad,with over 300,000 applicants nationship.Ithink Nigeria is in a dangerous state,

300,000 X 1,500 = 450,000,000

with this kind of cash i fit start business and employ like 5,000 applicants hope there is no law if I don't employ all the candidates o?

1025:
this is in no way close to justice. justice delayed is justice denied. one of the issues raised in the electorial amendments is the idea of [b]conducting elections at least six month before hand over to enable aggrieved parties to go [/b]to court and sort things out before the swear in propare but goodluck jonathan killed that idea
the court shld have waited till 2018 before sacking the gov.
a useless system.

It should be like four years considering the duration of some court cases. one in west and this one in south-south.

mikeansy:
Some people are just playing with fire. MEND whether Fake or Real is in nobody's interest.

I grew up in Borikiri area of PH. In those days Bayelsa had not been created and PH was the capital city of the old River State.

The main militant leaders who form the core of militancy in the Niger-Delta were simply pick pockets, panickers, thugs and thieves of yesteryears. I can not stress this fact enough. I never believed that somehow these group of boys can truly transform into freedom fighters and never believed the story of militancy in ND will end well. Because when you arm illiterates and untrained militia they usually turn around to hunt their own people.

While I will be ready to bear witness anytime anyday that may be these boys would have had a different future if we lived in a different country with a different responsible Government; the fact remains that there were other youths who as well had difficult up bringing but made different choices.

Some are saying militancy has ended because there is nothing these boys are fight for anymore. Nothing can be further from the truth. These boys are fighting for what they have always fought for. "Their pockets".  This is what they believed in 20years ago, this is what they believed in 10 or 5years ago and this is what the thugs trained under these boys will continue to believe in.

While Ateke Tom, Fara, Boyloaf and co may have been settled. Their boys have not been settled and the boys of their boys are yet to be settled. So this amnesty programme was never going to work.

If I was a junior militant with the ambition to be as rich as Ateke someday tell me why I will drop my arms and embrace some ridiculous amnesty programme when there are simply no consequences of me continuing kidnap-for-cash programmes, bunkering or at worst being at the centre of the next peace negotiations when I must have created more trouble and where I will then part with huge cash sums?

So we are simply creating a very dangerous loop here. As a Niger-Delta citizen with most of my family still in PH, I think it is time to call these criminals bluff. Anybody blowing up pipelines or kidnapping anyone should be captured and dealt with severely.

I am in support of 100% resource control for the Niger-Delta, I am in support of True Federalism. I believe the answer or route to these things is politics rather than making my homeland unsafe for all law abiding citizens.
True federalism or Resource Countrol will be achieved in the NASS by passing laws not through bombings in the creeks.

The quiet and calm PH I grew up as a boys going to school no longer exists. In those days our role models were Finidi George, Furo Iyenemi, Emmanuel Ebiede etc. These days the celebrities and folks kids hear about are now Fara Dagogo and Ateke Tom.

Who wants to live in a society like that?

mikeansy you just yarn the truth many NDs are avoiding, but it's the plain truth. I'm also from the ND, "There has never been a freedom fight right from the origin."  The issue was like let's protect our own, in case there is any fight/war these are the boys to fight for us.  Surprisingly the monster they reared is beyond their control. Before we got to this stage if you say anything against them, the intelligent/wise ones see you as a betrayer.

Mr aristocrat denying legitimate voters their rights.

So all this while you have been the person voting in all this criminals

^^

With the evidences why has he not been prosecuted?  or is he also entitled to immunity?

apart from one poster who said something about curses, i can't remember who said the children should be punished.

My problem with nigerians is when you see people claiming to the educated trying to explain off something that is ridiculous.

Previously it was immunity clause which they were clamoring to be removed from the constitution. But years after most of the those protected by the immunity clause left office, they walking freely. Plus not all the looters are protected by the immunity clause.

There is a reason for the immunity clause. I believe all countries with have immunity from prosecution for their leaders in the various constitutions.

Essence of the immunity clause is to protect the leader from civil litigation to enable him/her concentrate on the governance of the people. e.g. If a citizen sues the governor on a civil matter he's supposed to be present in court. The clause is to avoid embarrassing situations like this, imagine the president/governor being the highest office holder in the country/state saying "your honour," but if there is evidence that he/she has committed a criminal offense then he/she is impeached by the legislature to face the criminal charges in court.

@sagamite,

You don't need to remind me how retarded I'm but you are a smart coward. Why don't you ask for the prosecution of those that looted public funds and are still alive enjoying the loot? Some looted and made sure their children had the best education money can acquire, bring them back and set them up. Some of those children are into politics as we are discussing and you don't ask for their head. Yet you are asking for the head of Abacha's son.

I'm not supporting Abacha's son, but this attitude of yours is the problem we have in this country. People are accused Ribadu of selective justice, while they do worse.

^^

ocho cinco:
lol . . .with your circular arguments?

Here you are posting links Lording it with your ''imperious intelligence''. (Gosh. can't get over that. what a schmuck)

And I decide to tell the unsuspecting folks what a ridiculous fraud you are, and you are begging me to disappear.

Question still remains. . .Did you or did you not defend criminal piracy on another thread? And did you not defend it on the basis
that it provides employment for otherwise idle youths?

And if you did, does that not make you a hypocrite considering these age cheats you are disparaging here
would also otherwise be idle?

I reckon you are not a hypocrite. You are just silly. Really silly. The inconsistency is not obvious to you at all.

What ocho cinco posted is true this sagamite guy is a complete fraud, imagine what he is saying

Sagamite:
Even though I can understand the anger of an average Nigerian especially when one struggles everyday in Nigeria or even abroad and then sees these corrupt politicians or their dependents living in cornucopian luxury (e.g. riding in some expensive car with a driver out of their fleet of exotic cars past the dearth poor struggling) and having an air of looking down on others thinking they are better, I still think it is quite crass to rain insults on people that find themselves as part of a situation they cannot control especially when they object to it.

Very crass and simpletonistic!!! Punish people for their sins, not a sin by ancestry.

And he hates Abacha's son! What crime did Abacha's son commit against you?

bawomolo:
^^^

you might want to grow up. your mates are campaigning for change in the polling booth and the court room while you are ranting like a child on nairaland.

I'm pissed off at all these people campaigning for "vote and make your vote count."  May be you thing the rigging is done  in Lagos alone.  There are some places/local government where the indigenes/residents don't even know what the ballot papers look like.

In such areas how do you vote and defend your vote?

you are worried because this discussion is about people like you? are you afraid of the curses? Don't worry yourself, just ignore people who want to rant and continue enjoying your wealth.

aru11:
RE: ORJI UZOR KALU’S : LEAVE ABIA ALONE!
We are sickened by the dangerous fumes oozing out of Orji Uzor Kalu’s ’s Camp. It appears suffocating to almost stupor and extinction. But in Abia state forces of good would always triumph against that of darkness and force darkness into extinction instead.

We are also well aware the various means the stink is being spread especially by making Abia South, the business nerve-center, treasure base and home for all Abians, South, Central and North, poor and wealthy, a terror zone.
Gangsterism, armed banditry and kidnapping form the tripod on which Orji Uzor Kalu’s ’s handiwork manifest very glaringly.

We are not surprise in the least that Abia State would be thrown into the prevailing mess. Orji Uzor Kalu’s ’s chequered criminal history, perfected, sealed and delivered in granting him, a miscreant, eight-year rule as executive Governor of Abia State midwife exaggerated crime and crime-related manifest tendencies in this king of the underworld. What we witnessing today in the hands of Orji Uzor Kalu’s  and cohorts is a reflection of the extent of decadence our igbo society has sunk due to the invasion of these dangerous misfits in our ranks.
Orji Uzor Kalu’s operates on multi-levels. The Kalus looted Abia to net business empire of their dreams. Having being in political power saddle for eight solid years, and also being avowed advocates of a corrups society, they thrived in illegal importation of arms using SLOK outfits. The Kalus equipped and armed their recruits to the teeth with armaments. Massive wealth from 13% derivation have been employed to boost international business of arms supply.

Orji Uzor Kalu’s  and his dark monarchy are adepts in psychic science. The weakly developed humankind attracted into igbo society today falls easy prey to the mere domineering dark machinations. The dark monarchy intimidates their victims with dearth and pretended and purported extraneous influences when in actual fact they are only basking in lawful attraction of like.

The liberation of Abia coordinated by Executive Governor; T.A. Orji (Ochendo) is lawful in time. The bandage has fallen from most people’s eyes who do not belong to Orji Uzor Kalu’s ’s psychic community, and chaos has ensued in his ranks. Only his like remained with the Kalus to further perpetuate fear, suffering and doubt amongst Abians.
Orji Uzor Kalu’s  has amassed so much wealth in his eight-year rule. He is prepared to throw about his lost with reckless abandon. The eventful pillaging of Abia treasury brought Abia to the worst poverty level so that the weak lot would be tied to his apron strings – and become very willing servants, ready to do his biddings.
Orji Uzor Kalu’s , a leader of the hoodlums, is charismatic in his own right. As the 2011 election close in, he is prepared to showcase and deploy his arsenals. The violence in Abia now is part of his master plan.
But Orji Uzor Kalu’s  has woefully failed already and Chief (Dr.) T.A Orji (Ochendo) liberates Abia from the tethers of vile dynasty.
Orji Uzor Kalu’s  you are done! Enough is enough for Abia is free!
For: Abia Coalition for Change

Crap post, what has your so called thief(dr) t.a. orji(ochendo) imposed on abians (by ORJI UZOR KALU) done so far?

AjanleKoko:
When you think about it, look at Transcorp. People floated a company, raised money from the exchange, and disappeared. Has anybody heard anything about them lately? I'm sure their shares are still trading on the exchange.

i told my colleagues that i will not purchase a single share even if it is sold at the rate of 1kobo/10share.
It's better i play football pools than purchase such shares after hearing of the calibre of people behind transcorp.

It is a common thing in Nigeria to see companies being floated claiming they will compete with the multinational companies only for the same companies to close shop with a change of government.

^^^

Na so my brother "What do women really want?"

Sagamite:
I don't get you.

Explain your point!

My advice: Use the explanation opportunity intelligently.

What I said is you are justifying your friend because you are close to him and believe in his innocence, while at the same time you want to crucify Abacha's son, (and people got bold about Abacha after his demise - other looters are still alive and enjoying their loots), don't you know that there may be people close to him who will also justify him?

Note: please don't bother about my grammar (because that may come next, was typing in a hurry)

Topic Re: Why Is Nigeria's Business Climate So Hostile?

instead of discussing about the climate and enlightening us, the discussion is now deviating to nigerian businessmen

@sagamite

the posture you are taking against Mohamed abacha is the problem with nigeria. since abacha died all nigerians are now powerful to crucify him, same you is giving excuses for those whose parents alive and still looting presently.

@kengali

+1

some are already refuting what is glaring

4llerbe:
which one is cutting nose? if you cannot see beyond your nose and be objective about these things you will be better off keeping quiet about it. you think i am some loyal avid tv watcher? i will tell you what is crap and what is not!

It means insulting yourself, if you don't understand check this:

4llerbuntu:
in short me sef join the clamour, how hard can it be to add mbc? remove all those crap stations.
pls what exactly is that cmedia station for? talk about a waste of . . . . .

4llerbuntu:
all you pple whining about startimes, were you blind b4 you bought it?

u did not see the list of station they were broadcasting b4 you bought it?

or you thought they had supersport 3 and was showing all the football on the planet?

i wonder what the complaints is exactly?, its not expensive you can throw it away and buy Hitv, then come back and complain after 2 month again.

4llerbuntu:
better go buy dstv and stop making a monkey of your self on NL, so what if it is crap, for 1k

you also complained and at the same time labeling others as making a "monkey" of themselves.

@lucky4real28
try to read, comprehend before replying. posters replying without reading and comprehending what somebody else posted is very common on nairaland

This is what drives them on, after kidnapping their fellow downtrodden they turn around and claim freedom fighters. So the new nigerian interpretation of "freedom fighter" is one who kidnaps/collects ransom and robs honest traders, civil servants, etc.

stagger:
Got a publication on ATM card protection. Go to www.2incstore.com/atmprotect.htm

this guy sef u no dey tire with your crap ebook?

Justcash:
[b]I feel your point. Doing business in Nigeria requires beyond economic indices and foresightedness. I even doubt if the principle of demand and supply functions well in Nigeria. If you want to survive in the Nigerian business environment, you need to "Shine your eyes" and "Use your village sense". If you are Nigerian, you will understand what I mean. No amount of righteousness can make you succeed in your business in Nigeria, if you don't bend the rules a little. when you shine your eyes, you will see your impediments and tackle them as a Nigerian. These impediments cannot be seen by Foreigners. That is why CNN and BBC will continue to call Nigeria a hell hole, yet genuine billionaires keep emerging from the same business environment (as in really genuine and clean), which keeps them wondering how.

Going to Ghana will help if you are into Manufacturing. If it is buying and selling or business services that you are into, Omo, stay for Nigeria o! Ghana will frustrate you and make you to regret ever leaving Nigeria. Stay in Nigeria because upon all the push around that you will experience, you still stand to make more money in Nigeria with some little effort than in Ghana.
[/b]

bending rules to become a clean billionaire ?

That's why somebody can steal and boldly go to church and testify of the Lord's Goodness.

4llerbuntu:
in short me sef join the clamour, how hard can it be to add mbc? remove all those crap stations.
pls what exactly is that cmedia station for? talk about a waste of . . . . .

4llerbuntu:
all you pple whining about startimes, were you blind b4 you bought it?

u did not see the list of station they were broadcasting b4 you bought it?

or you thought they had supersport 3 and was showing all the football on the planet?

i wonder what the complaints is exactly?, its not expensive you can throw it away and buy Hitv, then come back and complain after 2 month again.
which one is even ok sef, dstv, e nor good, hitv e nor good, startimes na crap, FTA una go say too much wahala, what do u want?

maybe you pple should actually get a life and stop lazing in front of a tv so much. life is more interesting in real life!


anyway, office bought startimes, cheaper than the rest, they only want to put on al-jazeera or bbc world on the wall lcd anyway

my security guard bought startimes, hje likes the big man, paytv touch, the home videos both local stations and e star, news and cartoons for his face me i push you house.

young student living alone in dormitory bought startimes, he is a big boi amongst his fellow sufferers, he has mtv base, he can attract 1 or 2 babes with the tv

there are situations where its ok for the user.

if you dont like it, you have options, FTA, MAX 60K, DSTV, max 40K, HITV, . . . . .
stop whining about 1k tv, what did you expect? SKY TV?

BESIDES, FYI, THE THING IS JUST NTA TRYING TO CORNER THE DIGITAL TERRESTRIAL MARKET B4 2012 WHEN ALL LOCAL STATIONS GO DIGITAL TOO!! ordinarily it would have only NTA and local stations on it.

better go buy dstv and stop making a monkey of your self on NL, so what if it is crap, for 1k

This is a classic example of "cutting your nose to spit your face."

phreakabit:
Dude that was either Fear Factor or Real Man or Chicken? and those are Reality TV shows, meaning those guys get paid to do that

So, your problem is nobody is paying them to eat the whale, but if somebody is paying them to eat it then no problem?

toba:
Well the employer reserves the hire&fire rights, which can be exercised at anytime. Now if your friend have a proper letter of employment, it would contain various conditions before she would be sacted. I mean the usual clause of one month lieu notice from either party. If either party fails in meeting the conditions, then the law can take its course

No employer's policy supersedes any country's labour laws. No company can try these in US or Japan. In fact in Japan, presently there is paternity leave.

All these are caused by the useless people we have at the helm of affairs as our leaders.  They are just comfortable and out of touch with reality.  

chines4:
What about the police toll gates allover the country. Toll collections by police is the main cause of their inefficiency not special crime squads. Let the IG disband all police toll collection centers( check point, stop and search operation or what ever name they call it). Let the police patrol the areas assign to them. this way the criminals will not know where the police might be at any time. Personally I can tell you where and when u will see police men at any particular time. If I can predict the police so will criminals do. IG please disband the toll collection centers

God bless you for this post

190:
[color=deeppink]The minute omolola wears waist beads on her waist

That same minute i would take her straight to

Mountain of fire and praise ministries AKA (CELE)

for 6weeks so they can flog the demon away from her waist!! [/color]

eleven:
Poster used a heavy sledge hammer to solve a simple common sense issue. Happens when one thinks he is too intelligent often caused by reading too many motivational books and attending so many financial seminars

your too much my brother. No mind the yeye poster tensor777 aka ikengawo group who want people to toil to death while they relax in one air-conditioned office enjoying the sweat of the fishermen and farmers in the name of investment banking.

martinosi:
So as you can see from my explaination above.^^^^ Canada, Australia and even USA was built on Agriculture and Mineral resources, RESOURCE/PRODUCTIVE CAPITAL,

as long as tensor777 alias ikengawo are concerned you people should continue fishing with your rods, baskets and continue farming with your hoes to help your community. after their parents have stocked all the countries monies in the personal accounts outside nigeria. If nigeria is so good ask them why they prefer to school abroad?

^^ using one smartcard with two decoders is piracy
what don't u understand?