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Thepasserby:
And the Op just made a fun of God. Just thank God that God is not wicked if not, the lightening would have struck your phone.

God cares about everyone oh, if you think God is dead, give Him just one day and ask him to show himself.

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It's been given millions of years, it's not shown a trace of its existence.

It's expected to show its Spiderman prowess at akwa ibom collapsed synagogue, it never showed up.

Deicide:
Do you even understand what the Word belief is? How can it be Rational?

Pls indulge me the meaning oga omniscient

ambassagod:
go and learn

the below makes atheism a belief.

Just as "idiocy" is a belief, among some folks.

Atheism - rational system of beliefs

Theism - irrational system of beliefs

Acidosis:
1. Sometimes the evidence that God exist is so solid and undeniable that it is easier to give up your belief or worldview BUT constantly learn how to generate quick excuses on google why the evidence is false.

2. Learn how to type, and use the word "God" at least 10 times daily on Nairaland to affirm the fact that you don't believe in Him. Make sure you talk more about God than Christians.

3. You read the story of that wall-trapped boy that sang for 3 days in Ondo state but couldn't comprehend. You run to google but still couldn't find any 'rational" or plausible explanation as such do not occur in those countries you believe to be atheist-dominated. Don't give up, continue to defend your unbelief.

4. You have never left the shores of Nigeria, but somehow, learn how to convince yourself that white men and westerners don't serve God.

5. Make sure you vote for kleptomaniacs and illiterates, and learn how to blame your electoral and socio-economic misfortunes on Pastor Adeboye - a man you have never met.

6. You are aware that T.B Joshua Ministries attract the highest number of foreigners into MMA but still convince yourself that without religion, Nigeria will attract the highest number of foreigners, and MMA would become the busiest airport in the world.

7. You envy places like Israel, Rome and oil rich Saudi Arabia, but learn how to dislike Redemption Camp, MFM Camp, etc., because they make us more religious and underdeveloped than those countries who rely heavily on religion.

8. Criticize Jesus Christ in the midst of Christians because you're convinced Jesus preaches love, but never in your life time talk about Mohammed in the midst of Muslims. Talk about the God of Christians, but keep mute on the God of Muslims.

9. Do not believe in prophecies and revelations, but when you dream and it comes true, pretend like you never dreamt and continue to convince yourself why dreams are false.

10. Whenever you wish to criticize a man of God, avoid people like Pastor Mike Bamiloye or Pastor Kumuyi, and learn how to call those with questionable characters. Use them as cases in point, and draw a generalized statement that all men of God are scam.

11. Believe whatever a ma.d man tells you whenever you're engaging in Baba Ijebu (Lotto), but slam prophecies and revelations from men with proven sanity.

12. When your account is empty, convince yourself that only the poor pray. Whenever you see Saraki with 500 Alfas from Ilorin, convince yourself that religion is for poor men. Whenever you see Mrs. Alakija in a church, convince yourself that religion is the opium of the people.

13. Finally, when you get tired or run out of ideas to defend your new found belief, continue to defend anyway, at least for the sake of your new found crush who doubles as the owner of a popular website.

The summary of all these your 13 symptoms of atheistic-phobia, is the reason why atheists have repeatedly point it out, that religious beliefs are inhibitory to critical and rational thinking.

It's so exciting, that atheistic thread now pervade this section, than stale gists about Jewish doG and rebel nazarene. It's particularly interesting, that it's the theists that now promote threads that promote atheism.

It appears the archenemy (Satan) of Jewish elf, has found dwelling in the minds of enemies of atheism.

DrLazDevitan:
Once again,it is a Mental therapy and does not give a proof whether demons are existing or not.It is a surface overviewing and likable to dash out reality in view for a religious one.It is liken to one using acetaminophen for life constant constrain on pains-it does not solve the problem but it does reduce the pain discomfort.

An atheist begs pardon for headache of the religious that what he is yet to think is not his problem.
We can almost experience what we haven't yet thought of but our analysis to solving the problem differs.If one believes in demon existence it is in one position to find factors to mar it,and if the other dissuades such crafts it is also to create an enablement to mar or petered it out.

If the variables on which the claim of demon existence, are subjected to scientific observation, the conclusion will prove the contrary.

The whole notion of demon possession, is built on extrasensory intercourse, which are wholly subjective.

And most of what used to be grouped as extrasensory experience, eg trance, dream, Prophecy etc can now be stimulated in neuroscientific lab.

Pidgin2:
And who asked for your help, when did you become a savior? You abhor paying of tithe to priests and pastors but you would rather spend the money on purchasing designer shoes, bags and latest technologies instead of giving it to the needy. The tithe paid in churches is sometimes used for the welfare of poor folks who you and your kind have no regard for . Kindly Google missionaries ministries, charitas network, St. Vincent DE Paul, JDPC, and numerous other association funded by churches

Human rights has nothing to do with atheism, you folks do not have any uniform moral standards so what are the guidelines you all have earmarked for upholding people's rights? I agree ICT has led to increase in depression and a growing number of self absorbed selfish people as more individuals spend time alone rather than socialize which is the more healthy option for having a good mental health, how is this a good thing?

I didn't mean to call atheists satan but you all seem to promote what he stands for so what's the difference between you and satan?

I'm amazed that you guys cannot even define exactly what you all stand for

What you think and say affects people, I'm not surprised you don't know this as atheism makes you lose your natural human feelings, it doesn't encourage empathy so I kind of understand where you are coming from. You cannot talk anyhow you want because you live amongst people and you might hurt their feelings, if you don't care about this then someone ought to make you care

A war has been declared on you already the end of your devilish movement is near IJN.

I can understand how despairing and dreadful, the mere thought of atheism makes you folks feel.

Am sorry to disappoint you, it's gonna get worst for the religious ideas promotion.

Am particularly scared for you, in that out of myriads of positives of ICT, it's depression (which doesn't in the first place have ICT as its primary risk factor) that you can come up with.

This is pitiable and symptomatic of how mentally reductive, the religious beliefs makes its adherents.

But no atheist stopped theists from posting their preachment now.

No atheist compelled theist to comment on his thread now.

No atheist is angry because theist commented on his thread. Why are theists belly aching because of mere use of language?

Why are these theists threatening fire and lime stones. They should be patient for their skydaddy, to dump all atheists in hell now.

hopefulLandlord:
a certain Vick4rill created this thread months back https://www.nairaland.com/3413020/operation-fight-atheist#50275962

i keep saying this: "that evangelism, is not only done when one carries the bible and start going from house to house". Evangelism as a matter of fact should be carried out more on social networks, especially a place like nairaland. i beg of you my fellow xtians, let us not keep silence and allow atheist sow the seed of doubt in the heart of fellow xtians who visit this section. dont ever think that your arguement and disposal of the folly of atheist is a waste of time. you dnt know how many soul you are bringing back to God through this effort.i want us to lunch this war against atheist from now on.we must nt tolerate their castigation and mockery of our lord Jesus christ.! in your free time i want u to take time to dispose their ugly accusation against xtianity.But hw can you do this if you dont: read and study ur bible, know and develop a personal relationship with the God you are serving and make researches.it is a pity that most atheist even know the bible better than xtians.we need to wake up i beg you.

Pidgin2:
Why are so many of them opening threads here, what are the mods doing, doesn't one have to be a member of a religion to post here? This should be a criteria

Just to break the exclusive rights of religious obscurantist, from deceiving folks, and extorting them of their hard earned money. All in the name of Jewish skydaddy.

Pidgin2:
Atheism is not a religion, adherents are not religious so why can't their posts be removed from here and taken to the appropriate forums or sub-forums. Or do we agree that this is an atheist forum too or is someone trying to grow this movement in Nigeria?

ICT and entrenchment of fundamental human rights are growing atheism.

Pidgin2:
I respect all views, even those of atheists because at the end of the day no one can force you to change but if atheists stay away from criticizing religion and religious folks will that go against their satanic creed?

Now calling atheists Satan, shows how sincere you are in claiming that you respect my atheistic views.

Pidgin2:
I've been a member of other forums and you don't see atheists behaving this way at all. It's like this place was created for them. They don't respect other people's religion neither do they have any iota of regard for our God so why isn't someone trying to put a stop to this? At least let there be some kind of sanity on here, especially for atheists who lack uniformity in terms of morality.

Atheism is not like cult structure of religious groups. Atheism is just lack of believe in skydaddy. And every atheist is at liberty to define whatever that means.

We don't think for folks, like religious cult leaders.

What makes you qualify to start moderating how i think? Are you now so omniscient that you have transmogrified, to some kind of fountain of knowledge?

Pidgin2:
Right now many Christians I know in real life have a negative impression about this forum because of the way atheists behave. Someone needs to set them aright.

Declare religious war on the atheists or just tell skydaddy to gag wavelengths to their gadgets, better still, tell the lion of Judea to have them for dinner..... Pronto.... Only Theists will be on NL tomorrow morning.

... Kikikikikikiik... Hahaha.... Kikikikikikiik

DrLazDevitan:
I am belliful.Well said,Chummy.
However,this line of education is a mental therapy and does not solve the puzzle if demons aren't existing.

It's solved.

To the religious, demons are real, because their beliefs system helps them create such subliminal experience.

To the atheists, since no such beliefs exist in their minds, they can't experience what they don't reckon with.

Zoharariel:
Oonii Kuure for threatening me with the wrath of an imaginary sky-daddy who couldn't send his arch-angels to deliver his gullible & fearful children from a building collapse!

Obatala will bury you & your white-bearded, roasted-meat loving & anus-free God of heaven! Hahahaahahaha!

If this religious folks are not being restricted by law, they will be worst than boko haram. Can you imagine someone who claimed to be in religion of love and peace.

Rapture4real:
The God of Heaven whom you have mocked will prove to you that He still a living God. You will regret this scorn .God will invoke His wrath upon you for this sacriledge you have committed with the way you have derided God with Ps 91. Watch out for His judgement upon you

God Avenger unleashed........ Terrorist for Jesus welcome!

DrLazDevitan:
It's easy,what the religious ones term witchcraft is only psychiatrical or psychologic to the Atheists.And what is psychiatrical or psychological to an atheist is only assumed witchcrafting to a religious one in some stances.

The line of both coincidence offers to each of these group of thinkers a sphere of sensual preference in a deferring assimilation.

The religious assumed albeit without evidence. While the atheists based their conclusion on scientific observation.

The religious conclusion is inimical to mental, social and developmental well-being. While the atheists conclusion offers opportunities for rehabilitation, acceptance and understanding.

The reason for saying therefore, that religion is inherently inimical to human good.

Sinkills:
Is that so? Those who have the characters you mentioned are certainly not Christians. In every 12, there is likely to be a Judas. So it is very wrong to generalize that all the twelve are Judases. Moreover, pastor Kumuyi and his able lieutenants never taught us to be hateful and spiteful as you painted just as Christ never taught Judas to be covetous and treacherous. But we have a duty under God to call false teachers and deceivers by their names to save the unwary multitudes from perdition. Of course you are not certain but it is obvious you share certain of his characteristics. I was once sinful, crafty, irreligious and blasphemous until Christ saved me by grace. He will have mercy in you too I J N, Amen.

A rational assessment of your person says the contrary.

From your conclusions and perception of other human beings, you're just as full of hate, vengeance, malice, déception, evil and wicked intents, like most religious bigots are.

To assume a duty of calling other human beings false, fool, condemned and gonna roast in hell, because they don't care about your skydaddy, is the most disgusting and despicable assignments any rational specie will ever take on.

Seek rehabilitation for this irritating worldview of yours first, maybe you will then understand how needless and useless god idea is.

sticlestm:
Since it is your preoccupation to 'school' people, I really am interested in what u want to teach, loosemouth!
U are using the same 'dead logic' to talk about real events of the Bible in bad light. Granted, the same principle applies that real landmarks...etc are not the ONLY STANDARD for proofs whether the events reported around them are real or imaginary (wait a minute! Are u implying that Adam, Eve, Abraham, Isaiah, Jesus, John etc did not exist? So, for example, someone who did not exist prophesied that Israel would be scattered as a nation but would come back together in the future, which was fulfilled in 1948. U mean that person did not exist?). Consider again the numerous authors of this 'storybook' most of who never met saying about the same things on one subject. Dont u think their individual imaginations must have been phenomenal with telephatic abilities of one to communicate to the other?

Didnt that same history tell you that it was an Edict of Religious Tolerance made by Constantine so as to bring in the estranged and persecuted Christians into Rome's idolatrous society? By implication, anyone could worship whatever and whoever they wanted.
And Yes, thank you, Mr 'schooler', I dont know 'shit' about history or 'poo' about Christianity, because I'm supposed to know the good things, the Truth about them not 'poo'!

FYI, there's nothing new in how they came about Christmas at December 25 or why the day of worship changed from Saturday to Sunday. These are not enough to prove Christianity is a charade. Lowbrainers and nitwits like you keep battering it yet it is standing and it shall stand forever!

You can hold on to your 'life logic' and keep on deceiving yourselves. We pray to live long, good lives and die at our old age. For you, death is probably the end of everything; but for me I know death here is a passage to life elsewhere. I have hope I will still live!

I love religious folks.

The thoughts level and pattern, of you folks is a stimulant for a critical and useful thought pattern for me.

If you know anything about the theology of the Yoruba traditional religion, their ese ifa (scriptural chapters and verses), has every section of the Bible (creation story, Kings, priesthood, poetry, wisdom, Prophecy, messianic incursion and eschatology).


If you go through the prophetic documentation of some of the traditional religion scriptures, you will be shocked at the precise fulfillment of the stuffs they predicted. So, there is nothing unique about the Jewish traditional religion (Christian religion).

Against the lies of Abrahamic religions (that traditional religions copied Bible theology), every culture had this theology, before the incursion of Christianity or Islam.

These are the things that you folks don't know. Just Google these things, you will be better informed.

Of course, it's the irrational fear of the unknown (life after death), that sustains religious idiocy.

But religion is gradually been consigned to irrelevant and useless idea, across the globe (before you argue, check "religious beliefs decline" on Google).

Most folks who still subscribe to religion publicly, do so because they are afraid of the reactions of folks around them. And since they can be atheists in their private life, no need to be public about it.

davtosh:
In many of your older comments I have read the same comments of the carpenter killed by three nails .
Mind you the carpenter needed to die at that point in time and that was why He was killed with three nails. If they had used one nail or only slapped Him, He would have died all the same. There was the need to save hopefulLandLord and his Atheist brothers, me and everyone else.

He owns His life no one takes it from Him except if He lays it down by Himself.

So I rejoice with you that till that day you have a rethink on your strange strange, illogical beliefs there is still chance to make heaven.


Have a great week ahead In Jesus Name

Do you really take the nazarene's gist seriously?

plaetton:
What manner of rubbish is this ?

So god protects his faith,.. until death comes in the form of a church building crushing their skulls ?

This is entirely new to me.
So, Christians pray to and give endless supplications to god to protect them from all..(? ), Until such a time that danger and calamity come falling down their skulls ?

This is a mighty interesting new doctrine.

You know this Jewish doG is such a mischievous pet.

It claims it can prevent death, but when death strikes, this pet immediately claimed it ordained the death.

No prayer stops anything, they are just satisfying their hook on religious blues.

hopefulLandlord:
I remember having a discussion with a Christian on this forum and quickly said anyone who isn't a Christian serves the devil

it sounded ridiculous so I decided to indulge further by asking if Muslims, Buddhists, Judaism, Hindus etc are of the devil and the person replied with an emphatic yes

its only logical that such a person believes we succeed by the power of the devil

Don't mind this god Avenger. They don't consider it as lies, as long as they are lying for god and it pikin nazarene.

valboy20:
The guy you quoted is very ignorant and he doesn't wanna calm down so he can learn. Using his stupid dead logic, spiderman must be real since real place like New York was mentioned in the comics.

The dumb guy doesn't know shit 'bout his religion. He only listen to the brainwashing from the men in a $200 dollar suit.
He doesn't know Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire as a political tool to control people.. The guy don't even know how the buybull came 'bout... He doesn't know why dec 25 is Christmas, the dumbo doesn't know why Sunday is their day of worship instead of Saturday.. He's just a fucking ignorant zombie. I don't even even know where to start schooling him

Religious folks really need rehabilitation. I really feel their difficulties and predicaments.

Since i was once there, i can relate with their tunnel travel....

They certainly look forward to seeing light. But unfortunately, that tunnel is called delusionary tunnel, that leads to the chronic delusion.

sticlestm:
its easy to call your opponent names when u run out of facts. Its foolhardy to barter words with the likes of you. However, i will not gratify u with an unfounded silence. Since u called me an empty barrel, let me make some noise in form of the following comments.

1. Your claim that Jesus & His followers were 'fanatical & rebellious' comes from where? And against whom were they rebellious?

2. You say the Bible is a 'fictional storybook', certainly places like 'EGYPT', 'RIVER JORDAN', 'ISRAEL' must have been fables, right? What of people like 'PHARAOH', 'HEROD', 'CEASAR AUGUSTUS' etc ? They must have been thought up too! (oh! I forgot u said there was a Roman government). How convenient to conclude this way!

3. You really are hilarious. Seriously? ''Thousands of historians documented Judeo-Christian activities'', yet they ALL WROTE BASED ON FABLES? Their work of FICTION was so perfect that they said about the same things on the same events? Again, how convenient!

4. Seriously now sir, u need a 'thinking retreat'. Which Roman Government 'selected...' the Bible? Is it the one that was persecuting the Christians or the one that worshipped several gods?

Sir, it is better to show wisdom by learning quietly in humility than by voicing folly! Perhaps, nature (or whatever u believe in) can help u in understanding.

FYI, FAITH BEGINS WHERE UR REASONING ENDS. Reason and faith are different but NEVER AGAINST each other.
Enough said.

Sorry if you felt offended by my choice of adjectives. They are directed at your thoughts level. Just as you call me out on my reasoning.

Well it's still obvious that you don't have a basic grasp of logic and history comprehensive know.

*fictional works do contain real landmarks and features. That doesn't make such works real.

All mythological and legendary books contain real historical landmarks.

*a comprehensive read of the gospel books, will show you how Jesus and his disciples constituted nuisance to the Jewish and Roman communities.

*are you not aware that the Bible was first and originally compiled by the Roman government? A Google on the history of Bible will help you.

*sorry, faith and reason are diametrically opposed - a parallel line that will never meet. Google both words, and you will be well educated.

*now that you said am voicing folly, how do you want me to respond to you now?.....?.......?......You are forgiven this time.

Anas09:
PLEASE CHRISTIANS, STOP MAKING THIS PERSON FEEL RELEVANT, HE IS NOT.


IGNORE SATAN WHO IS SPEAKING THROUGH HIM.


SATAN HATES IT WHEN HE IS IGNORED.


SO, IGNORE HIM.

You're lying here.

Satan hates it when you engage him.... That's what your story book said.

Satan savours being ignored. Didn't your story book says those who don't engage Satan are free from its wahala?

Just tell your skydaddy for me nao.... You can ask it to bar network to my gadget. That way, you folks will be free from your tormentor.

Anas09:
PLEASE CHRISTIANS, STOP MAKING THIS PERSON FEEL RELEVANT, HE IS NOT.


IGNORE SATAN WHO IS SPEAKING THROUGH HIM.


SATAN HATES IT WHEN HE IS IGNORED.


SO, IGNORE HIM.

Finally, you broke your oath.

Too bad, you couldn't resist not commenting on my thread.

Let me help you, start dogging my posts, just that moment that i break the NL rules... Pronto.... Hala de NL moderator.

A week ban from NL, will at least give you folks a breather from archatheist, who now torment the Christians.

Hahahaha..... Hahahaha....

plaetton:
Once again, tens of people have their heads smashed into pieces by a falling Church building.
If they are not being trampled to death at religious crusades, they are being smashed to pieces by falling Church buildings.

Where was god in all these tragedies ?

Are these not proof that religious worship is not only a terrible waste of precious time, but an ongoing health and safety hazard ?

I mean, what a terrible Irony, a very very sad and pathetic one.

It means, and again, ought to invoke and agitate our Common sense that the laws of physics transcend way above god and the notion of god,.., and that god, despite all the claims of imaginary omni omniness, is itself subordinate and subservient to the immutable laws of physics.

It's another confirmation of how grand the delusion, induced by religion.

Check these folks out tomorrow, you will find them gathered under worst death trap church building.

You know what they will say? god forbid.

Again, the height of this delusion will be, the testimony time, at this same collapsed church. Somebody is going to ask the others to shout seven hallelujah to god for saving her or him, from the tragedy.

It's a pathetic pity.

Sinkills:
I see you are actually an atteist as I earlier stated. You don't have any locus standi to discuss with me on issues concerning God. You are trying to use sentiments against Deeper Life to draw support from Christians and others who may not exactly like Deeper Life's modus operandi. You are crafty and subtil just like someone mentioned in Genesis 3:1 and 2nd Corrintians 11:3. Obviously, you hate pastor Kumuyi and his members with passion from your bile-filled comments. I was once like you. May God have mercy on you as He had on me in Jesus' name, Amen.

Correction....... I don't hate human beings, i detest and abhor inimical beliefs and ideas.

Why are you dodgy from calling me Satan?

You folks are certainly segregationists, full of spite and hate, for folks who don't subscribe to your own brand of gospel.

You're never like me, because if you were, you wouldn't have dived into this mess and filth called religion.

FredN:
Nothing wrong with his comments


We all have our different ways we react to grief. Akwa Ibom state is one of the truly christian states with almost 100% Christian population in Nigeria and in a sad event like this, it isn't out of place for an official of the state to give a faith based reassurance to its citizenry

America is a successful democracy yet Presidents still say God bless America


Atheists like to use events like these to support their beliefs, I personally think they have a point, but on the flip side, I have seen so much more miracles than tragedies as well which supports my faith. ....

In the end the evidence to believe in God greatly supersedes the reasons for doubt and the thirst for more knowledge has only but humbled great thinkers on the infinite reasons to know there is a God


It is a sad sad day... I feel terrible and personally hurt even though I didn't know anyone there. As humans we have almost the same universal grieving emotional response to events like these and it is a testament that we all have a common humanity, and one origin.

Random molecules cannot and will not create emotions like love and pain and hate and hurt. It won't, even in a million years frame us to ascend beyond primal urges for food and sex, and garner in humans, admiration for traits like loyalty and self sacrifice and faith and trust. It won't and it can't


While I weep for souls gone and lives cut short, it cannot but evoke in me feelings about the utter brevity of life and the hopelessness inherent in our mundane ambitions, dreams and luxuries we kill and main ourselves daily for. Everyone must die. Some soon, others later.

The one sure thing everyone has to deal with is the reality of the afterlife and whatever means we use to avoid thinking about it now that we are alive, we must face it when we die. The amount of life force in us is too much to be all exhausted at physical death. There must be more after death to justify its inherent perpetuity

God knows why he allows these sorts of human failings to have such fatal consequences on so many others, nevertheless I have seen so much of God's love to be infinitely convinced that whatever happens if his love allows it, then it can only be for the best

The usual excuse and rationalization for a scarecrow Abrahamic god.

It's all these pattern of thinking, that encourages folks to continue to take the liberty to commit mass murder. In the name of religion.

The rogue who is the pastor of the death trap church, has been shielded from culpability by all religious folks here.

It's a pity, the damage that god idea and religion has done to human mind is truly delusional.

LARRYDKING:
Congratulations for knowing all those, it doesn't change anything. Mind you, we don't worship Oyedepo, we worship God.

It's obvious you folks don't.

His wife was down with stroke, he flew her out to go through advanced medical rehabilitation, for almost two years.

When she came back, rather than tell you folks the true story, he lied and claimed it was some kind of miraculous act by skydaddy.

I write all these stuff from the vantage position, of having sufficient knowledge and understanding of both worlds of atheism and theism.

If only one person can escape the evil of religion, am satisfied.

LARRYDKING:
Medical advices have equally sentenced a lot their early grave. Dora Akuyili was sent to her early grave due to wrong diagnosis by foreign expects, the quacks we have here are indifferent. Different hospitals produce multiple medical reports with same symptoms.

Sir, I don't know what u know but from what I've seen u written, u certainly don't know much when it comes to miracles. My mum had migraine headache for 12 years, she had gone everywhere, sought for all medical helps to no avail. Our most revered pastopreneur as u choose to call him have a branch in my area. She didn't actually need to go to Cannanland to get mysteriously delivered. After 10 years and hitherto, she hasn't had the headache anymore.

It is however important that u know the essence of these things. No one says seeking medical attention is wrong, as a matter of fact, Oyedepo sees the doctors himself. The issue is some things are just beyond human comprehension. Even doctors acknowledge to that. The mysterious yet unraveled behind the creation of the universe still exists and still touching life hitherto.

I don't know ur occupation but if u're a doctor, u're still naive in the profession. U need to keep calm and learn more, banking on ur knowledge is utterly dangerous for u.

Well, naivety certainly has some other meaning than the one you know.

Whatever Mr oyedepo has told you, i had sat and heard him spin those gimmicks from iyana-ipaja in 1998 - to Canaan land in ota.

Don't sweat it, religious illusions are not cured with anointing oil or mantle.

Those books by atheists, read and taught from by Mr oyedepo himself, has the cure.

Am sure you were among the crowd that cheered oyedepo on, when he maliciously slapped and abused that young girl, he accused of witchcraft?

folks are simply mean and lacking distinction from a jihadist.

Sinkills:
I am not 'excited' about 'roasting' human flesh. Just that my Bible tells me about the reality of hell fire and that it is sinners and the disobedient that will go there. I love you and others like you and I don't want you to roast there FOR ALL ETERNITY! If I keep quite and pretend it doesn't exist or water down the message so that you will be comfortable and happy with me as some 'preachers' do, that means I actually hate you. Do you now understand that we are the ones who really love you?

Sorry, you folks are full of hate and bitterness against fellow humans, who don't subscribe to your religious illusions.

You folks are so limited in thinking and understanding of life, as to begin to think and claim that a Jewish doG, who commanded all kinds of atrocious acts against humanity, is anything close to the definition of love.

You deeper life folks are particularly bigoted to the extreme. So holy than thou are you folks, that other religious groups are all heading to hell. According to your own understanding of the Bible.

I detest seriously, whatever comes from you folks, because it's irritatingly filthy.

LARRYDKING:
Very true. What about cancer and HIV/AIDS? I'm sure SS can turn AA with medications too. I must be going too far by mentioning those incurable and terminal diseases. But how do u explain it that the ailments u mentioned disappeared on their own accord without medications, surgery or through traditional means, just by only mentioning the name of Jesus.

Convincing u is not my duty, so far u continue to live in the world, a day would come when u'll have no other option but to look for a miracle, u won't be told before u call on Jesus.

SS to AA? ......... that's the evil being perpetrated by religious beliefs.

You know what? The complications of all these fictitious and malicious testimonies are what i scold every now and then in the course of my job.

I particularly don't pity the folks being deceived by this charade and manipulation, they were very arrogant in the first place, to have disregarded medical advice.

All you need to do is get yourself to the surgical ward of any hospital, you will see the folks that have been irreparably damaged by the fictitious and fake miracles you're advertising here.
If i ever need a miracle, i certainly will not be looking up to your skydaddy and pastopreneur oyedepo.

Sinkills:
My friend, you are so wrong on your so-called standard rule for leaders. The qualifications or eligibility for leadership stated in 1st Timothy 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 are also evidences of being a born again Christian and eligibility for heaven for anyone. You just singled out being 'a husband of one wife'. What about the need to be blameless? Is that only applicable to Christian leaders? What about the need to be sober, vigilant, of good behaviour, not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre etc? Are these qualities only applicable to Christian leaders? The reason why it was spelt out as a yardstick for selecting pastors or leaders is because those are evidences that the would-be leader is actually born again so as to lead by example. Moreover, every born again Christian is a potential leader (not necessarily a preacher). In other words, no born again man should be a husband of more than one wife and no Christian woman should be a second, third or fourth wife. Those who are already into polygamy have to do restitution once they get born again because that is adultery. It may not be easy, but it is just necessary. Otherwise, heaven would be a mirage for such people. By the way, the way you put astericks ' ' on the word 'born again' shows that you don't believe in it. Apparently, you are not a Christian. You may even be an atteist. You cannot deceive anybody except those who are already deceived or who want to be. Therefore, pastor Kumuyi and others who preach and enforce restitution are doing the will of God.Thanks.

Back in the days that i used to preach the gospel of the nazerene, i particularly find the exegesis of deeper life church, lead by bro kumuyi, very disgusting and repulsive.

Here you're saying a polygamist can't be accepted into the imaginary heaven, except he restitute. When redemption has effectively nullify restitution.

I guess you and bro kumuyi are the custodians of the key to the gate of heaven and hell.

Just the same way you folks said those ladies who wear ornaments and trousers will be thrown to hell.

Are you folks kind of excited about roasted human flesh?

Why do you folk think that it's only those religious folks that wear color riots dress, scruffy and lilly, will make the illusionary heaven?

Is this your imaginary heaven not said to be paved with gold?

Against the lies been spun around by some theists on NL, to the effect that atheism promotes meaninglessness of life. But to the contrary, it's the religious folks that propagate purposelessness of life.

The two major Abrahamic religions is built on the idea of fatalism. Since their god has predetermined everything about life, all humans is therefore nothing but robot, to be controlled by the buttons of predestination remote.

Matthew 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

Jesus himself taught them not to plan, since their skydaddy had their life all planned. One predictor of a group of folks who believe life is meaningless, is their aversion to planning.

These are the features of meaningless life idea:

*nothing matters except skydaddy

*giving tithes and offerings, in the belief that they are building imaginary treasure in sky

* refusing to have blood transfusion, even when death is minutes away.

* committing suicide, in the hope to live in imaginary bliss, be given seven virgins etc

*refusing to seek medical treatment, but praying and fasting to cure diseases

*not considering other humans as anything, except they subscribe to the idea of skydaddy.

* no good act is commendable, except as dictated by their skydaddy

* heaven is home, therefore there's no need to be committed to worthwhile cause on earth.

* the whole human endeavors will be consumed with fire, when nazarene returns, so no need to invest on earth.

To the religious mind, life has no meaning, except the god idea meaning.

What a pitiable and pathetic mentality.

KingOfAmebo:
Rebellion, Disregard, Disrespect, Self-Worth, Pride and quake knowledge are all attributes associated to Atheists.

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Jesus was a rebel against Judaism. He incited the Jews against the Roman government. His rebellion was quenched within three years. End of story.

Christians are highly disrespectful, arrogant and deeply mean.
*you folks go round calling peeps sinners, wicked, fool and gonna burn in hell. Is this not arrogance and disrespect?

*you folk go round shouting and barking in a serene environment, and disturbing the quietude. What's that? Arrogant disregard of other's right.

KingOfAmebo:
They think they know everything and feel God is Irrelevant, they can as well argue they weren't created nor formed.

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You folk claim your god is an interventionist, but no trace of any of it intervention in human experience.

KingOfAmebo:
Well, this is what I call the illusion of an atheist (thinking they are wise but foolish to a fault)
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Confirmation of the religious arrogance and delusion.

KingOfAmebo:
Rather than engage in an unproductive argument with an atheist concerning questions about God, the best way to answer them is to tell them to ask God if they make it to heaven or they should ask the devil if the end up in hell.

Case closed.

Do you for once think that anyone, other than deluded folks take the fictitious story of heaven and hell serious?