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Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by akintom(op): 12:11pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
We slayed you in your first thread and now you open another? You are fighting a losing battle. Clearly in your first thread even with your self acclaimed high IQ you did not understand its content and we helped you explain it in simple terms and them showed you MENSA statisitics which clearly showed theists being 49% of their members and atheists 1.8% or so. Even atheists are too dumb to be allowed into MENSA.

Guy get a life.

PDBonline has even helped you explain this one as well since you also failed to understand it
This is still a part of how the study confirms the average intelligent level of theists.

The variables in mensa study is different from the variables in this present study.

You simply lack the capacity and capability to read and understand research works.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by akintom(op): 12:01pm On Nov 29, 2016
GrizzlyBear:
No, atheists don't have higher Iqs than theists, neither are they more intelligent than theists. That's a very foolish and simplistic thing to say.

Atheists don't also know how to think more critically or solve problems better than theists. The distinction however, is that religious belief prevents theists from utilizing the full bandwith of their intellectual capabilities when examining and accessing the contents of their beliefs.

Theists can effectively employ critical thinking and impressive problem solving skills in every other area of their lives, even in the context of appraising other religious beliefs. For instance, christians can critically examine the doctrines of Islamic beliefs and point out the factual errors and absurdities, but when it comes to critically examining their own beliefs, their brain goes blank.

Most atheists were christians before they became atheists, and were devout adherents of their faith. Would you say they had lower Iqs then? I know atheists that are as dumb as a rock, and I know theists that are smarter than I am.

The problem isn't Iqs. The problem is the power of belief, and we all respond differently to it.
The focus of the study, is the use of critical thinking and reasons, in addressing life challenges.

Atheists are higher in ranking, compare to theists.

By default, religious beliefs intercept and inhibit (though at different degrees), a rational approach to addressing life challenges.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by akintom(op): 11:55am On Nov 29, 2016
PDBonline:
There is a difference between conducting a scientifically sound research and giving it a non-biased interpretation. It's absurd anyone links religious belief to IQ and then try to make it look like it's a cause for lower employment status.

By the way, what research shows now is that emotional intelligence (simply put: ability to efgectively work in and with a team) is the real predictive factor for career success not intelligence quotient.
"The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive."
Christianity EtcRe: Existence Of God, And Search For Acceptable Evidence by akintom(op): 11:24am On Nov 29, 2016
ScienceWatch:
Hi Akintom, basic logic is never enough to form opinions on matters far beyond logic.

The basic logic you used here could be the reason why Many branches of science, especially medical, psychology and psychiatry is still the main cause of prolonged suffering forced on the masses today. One must not be surprised at the miserable results of science for the past two hundred years.

A far more superior way of dealing with the physical and mental health of the masses was established more than two thousand years ago by the same man you label as "radical, extremist and delusional."
Thanks to the freely available access world wide to Emmanuel TV 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, where millions of critical thinkers can easily compare what science has to offer with what Jesus is still offering. No Faith is needed to concluded that the man you despise is the greatest effective healer of problems science admit they know very little about, but are in it for the money.
It is not difficult to understand why science has tried and failed to block this higher TRUTH from the masses.

Akintom, You may have more satisfaction applying basic logic and narrow faulty reason to problems created by the same mind set.

View an extract from https://jonbarron.org/cancer-alternative-cancer-therapies/worlds-greatest-medical-failures

“Specifically, my purpose in this newsletter is to confront the very foundational philosophy and system of the modern medical paradigm -- a philosophy that costs trillions and a system that promises hope, but delivers misery.
No one, including many inside the medical community, can help but acknowledge these great failings. Sadly, for all our education and massive expenditures, modern medicine has failed miserably. You may wonder why.”

In fact, there are some who would argue that today's medicine has even gone beyond treating the body as a machine -- that today's doctors have taken things to a whole new level of absurdity. They treat the body as a mere set of "numbers." When you go to your doctor now, he or she orders up a series of very expensive tests (blood work, PSA, EEG, etc.), each of which produces a set of numbers. Then, based on where your numbers fall relative to a chart of "normal" numbers, your doctor prescribes a series of drugs to move your numbers up or down so that they fall within the "norm." In this model, even symptoms don't matter -- only the numbers.

As it turns out, the body as machine paradigm works very well in surgical repair. If you break an arm, the doctor works with that part of the machine and repairs your arm. If you are wounded by a bullet, the doctor removes the bullet and repairs all of the separate parts of your body damaged by the bullet -- again, problem solved!

Unfortunately, the paradigm's failures become most evident when we look at the major diseases of our time -- cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, etc.

The failure of cancer treatments
The standard treatments for cancer are surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy. Do any of these treatments do one single thing to address the actual causes of cancer? And the answer, of course, is no, they do not. All they do is "attempt" to remove the manifestation of the cancer that results from these causes. To believe they address the underlying causes of your cancer, you would have to believe that you got cancer in the first place because your body was suffering from a deficiency of radiation or chemotherapy. No one believes that, not even your doctor. Is it any wonder then that these treatments have had such a poor track record? And on top of everything else, we now know that radiation and chemotherapy are known carcinogens. They significantly compound the problem!

The failure of diabetes treatments
Standard medical treatment offers several flawed approaches:

Drugs like metformin seek to inhibit the absorption of high glycemic carbohydrates in the intestinal tract and enhance insulin sensitivity in the body, thereby reducing the need for extra insulin.
The major problem with metformin is its effect on the gastrointestinal system, ranging from a mild loss of appetite to nausea, vomiting, abdominal discomfort, cramps, flatulence and diarrhea. Many patients find these symptoms impossible to cope with and discontinue the tablets within days.
Lactic acidosis is a rare but dangerous side effect of metformin. This is a serious condition where the cells of the body do not get enough oxygen to survive. It is caused by a build up of lactic acid in the blood. Most of the cases described have been in people whose kidneys were not working well -- an inevitable problem with diabetes.
Drugs like glyburide work by stimulating the pancreas to release more insulin.
Glyburide is so effective that you need to carry glucose pills with you in case you produce so much insulin that your blood sugar drops too low and you fall into a diabetic coma. Although this rarely happens, it is indicative of the larger problems with glyburide:
It raises insulin levels so high that your body faces all of the problems of high insulin levels discussed above.
It doesn't repair beta cells; it just forces them to work harder -- thus speeding up the day when they break down and become dysfunctional.
Extra insulin in the form of pills or injections cover you when the beta cells in your pancreas have burned out and can no longer produce sufficient insulin by themselves or even when stimulated by drugs such as glyburide -- until, that is, your body's insulin resistance is so high that no amount of insulin is adequate for the task at hand. At that point, your body goes into rapid decay.
And when all is said and done, it should be noted that a huge study published earlier this year found that aggressively using these drugs to lower blood sugar levels actually resulted in an increased risk of death. The more they were used, the greater the risk.
You have simply presented yourself, as a severely ignorant folk, who knows next to nothing, of the value of science and specifically, medical science.

Wipe off all the advances of medical science, you will be back in era whereby a single microorganism caused epidemic, can wipe out a whole community.

You certainly wish that type of era, so that you and your prophet can continue to hold the victims to ransom.

I have done MR for various folks, who went to see your prophet for healing, they ALL came back, WITHOUT exception, with their diagnosis.

Stop displaying falsehood.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by akintom(op): 11:10am On Nov 29, 2016
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'
*Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion
*Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs
By Daniel Bates
Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study.
Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides.
They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said.
New evidence: A study has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers
The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.
The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.
In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive.
Even among children, the more intelligent a child was the more probable it was that they would shun the church.
In old age the same trend persisted as well, the research showed.
The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief.
They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.
In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’.
‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits.
‘More intelligent people getting higher level jobs and better employment and higher salary may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.’
Study co-author Jordan Silberman, a graduate student of neuroeconomics at the University of Rochester, said: ‘Intelligence may lead to greater self-control ability, self-esteem, perceived control over life events, and supportive relationships, obviating some of the benefits that religion sometimes provides.’
The research analysed 63 surveys comparing intelligence levels and religious beliefs between 1928 and 2012
Research from the UK last week showed another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian - you lose out in the race for top jobs.
Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions.
But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK.
Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million.
However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html#ixzz4RHRkYAtK
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Christianity EtcAtheists "Have Higher Iqs" (2) by akintom(op): 11:09am On Nov 29, 2016
INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT


In general, iq is an assessment of your ability to THINK and REASON.

However, your score on an iq test, will give you a pretty accurate indication of the ability you possess to:

* Think

* Reason

* Solve problems,

Which can often be critical in many phases of your life.

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The study i posted in the part 1 of this thread defined intelligence as:

"the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.

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All the theists that commented on the thread, did overwhelmingly authenticated the validity of the study.

None of the theists ever thought that the only way, to disprove the study, was to bring forth debate or arguments, that are based on critical thinking and reasons. Better still, they could bring forth studies that disprove this particular study been referenced.

Rather, they went down the path of infantile emotions, pettiness, court jesting and illusionary gloating.

I spared them the space, so they could give a robust display of their intelligence level. And true to their limited capacity, the level of their displayed intelligence, agreed perfectly with the findings of the study.

NL theists are good sample of religious folks, when testing the validity of studies, on the inherent basis for defining religion as irrational and idiotic idea.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists 'have Higher Iqs' - Daniel Bates (1) by akintom(op): 10:52am On Nov 28, 2016
Lennycool:
It's even observable today akintom.
You will hardly find an illiterate atheist.
And the higher the illiteracy/poor social conditions the higher the prevalence of religion
Of course, Lennycool,

Religion thrives on irrational fears and ignorance.

Those literate theists would rather choose, to become primitive and disgusting cavemen, when religion is the subject matter.

So pathetic.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists 'have Higher Iqs' - Daniel Bates (1) by akintom(op): 10:43am On Nov 28, 2016
Wilgrea7:
Some atheists maintain their non-belief comes through superior intelligence. In particular, many online atheists like to quote, “A fool says in his heart there is a God.” He reads only those sources which confirm and conform to his view and eschews those which do not. And he isn’t shy about telling you how dumb it is not to believe as he does.
But consider: nearly all the greatest, best, highest, most beautiful minds that ever existed were theists. Aristotle? Augustine? Confucius? Aquinas? Bonaventure? Copernicus? Bruno? Kepler? Galileo? Pascal? Descartes? Newton? Bach? Mendel? The list is endless. Most people were and still are theists of one sort or another. It is only in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries where atheism picked up steam.
If one is to study the association between intelligence and religious belief it is clear that one must account for history


also check this link

http://www.randalolson.com/2014/08/24/the-myth-of-the-smarter-atheist/
Just in....... Another confirmation of below average iq.
PoliticsRe: Freedom From Fear, Choices Before The New Generation – Raji Fashola, by akintom(op): 10:33am On Nov 28, 2016
We must approach our rock formations as treasure troves of building materials like marble, tiles and granite rather than treat them as totems of salvation that require animal sacrifice.

We should stop deifying the moon and stratosphere beyond the visibility of our eyes out of fear. Instead we should develop the courage and resolve to send men and women to land a space craft there.
I fully understand that some of you who have been raised in an environment dominated by your fear, may have been adversely affected by it.

But let me assure you that freedom from fear is not the same as courage. Instead while fear is an emotion, freedom from it is the ability to overcome it by refusing to surrender to it.
It comes from developing an ability to question things, to challenge the existing order and create a new order.

It has been done before. It requires us to know our choices and beliefs and dispense with culture that is not dynamic. That is why twins survive today. We stopped killing them and turned our backs against a Philistinic practice that was masquerading as a culture.

If you surrender to fear, people less educated, less intelligent and less qualified than you will take over your minds, your homes and your decision making powers. Many of such people are confidence tricksters who will prosper at your expense by preying on your fear.

Therefore, let me say to you that while your education may not be perfect, while there may be challenges, there is room to improve on it, because your education does not end her Indeed, your education has just started.

What you have learnt in the controlled environment of university classrooms will be subject to the test of real life situations. How you improve and educate yourself depends on how you use your minds.

For example, do you simply repeat and reaffirm what you hear people to say simply because they are highly placed and supposedly intelligent?

Do you verify it yourself before repeating it to others ?

Do you ever ask yourself if those people could be wrong? Yes, they can be. We are all flawed.

Do you ask yourself whether those you quote without question even read as much as you do?

Do you think in terms of these words:- “Impossible”, “Improbable,” “Unlikely” ?

If you do, please stop it. They are symbols and signposts of fear.

Almost everything that was once thought impossible, improbable, unlikely has happened. Men and women now fly thousands of Kilometres in the sky. They eat, sleep, even now shower on the Airbus A380, an engineering feat delivered by engineers of Airbus and Boeing who started out life like you, as young graduates like you.


5nd its burden, you may lose the opportunity to focus on crime management strategies like more policemen, crime detection methods, employment and training of judges. Indeed, as they say, if you see every problem as a nail, the only solution you might evolve is a hammer. So, please look for the positive angle of a difficult situation, because there will be one, if you look hard enough.

I urge you to free your mind from fear, reach for the skies, choose by conviction and not by fear; trust in your abilities and God given talent, take responsibility, work hard and pray if you believe. Yes, Sango is the god of lightning and thunder, but all the sacrifices made to Sango has not generated 1 (ONE) kilowatt of electric power.

Electricity is produced by using nature’s gifts , such as gas, water, solar and wind, harnessing their capacity through turbines made from steel to serve our energy needs, not by making animal sacrifices.

I will conclude by urging you to look for the book titled “Start Up Nation” by Dan Senor and Saul Singer , it would provoke your thinking as it did mine.

I am done.
Congratulations on your graduation. May the wind be behind your sails as you set forth in the journey of life.

May you fulfil your true promise, and may you be free from fear so that you can make good choices in your contribution to our national development.

Thank you for listening.

Babatunde Raji Fashola, SAN
Honourable Minister of Power, Works and Housing

25th November 2016
PoliticsFreedom From Fear, Choices Before The New Generation – Raji Fashola, by akintom(op): 10:33am On Nov 28, 2016
FREEDOM FROM FEAR, CHOICES BEFORE THE NEW GENERATION – BEING THE CONVOCATION SPEEECH DELIVERED BY BABATUNDE RAJI FASHOLA, SAN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF BENIN ON THE 25TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2016

Great UNIBEN.
This is the greeting amongst students on the campus of the University, and it has endured after graduation and stayed with the alumni; decades after graduation.

May this greeting endure also for all of you who graduate today, and may you fulfil your destiny of greatness as products of a great institution and citadel of learning.
That this university is great is beyond argument now.

The evidence of this abounds in the human capital supply she has produced for Nigeria in fulfilment of the objectives of founding fathers.
It is a rich store of personnel, not only in quantity, but defining in quality.
In all spheres of Nigeria’s developmental endeavour, there is a representative of great UNIBEN, not only in a participatory role, but also in a leadership role that is setting worthy and commendable examples
The boys and girls of yesterday have become the men and women who define the developmental character of our nation and they are waiting for you all to join them to play your role.


Therefore, I intend to start my interaction with you today by telling a story.
Many years ago, sometime in 1983, in a Philosophy classroom, a lecturer was telling his students about the theory of evolution, based on the Big Bang and atomic perspective of our evolution.He charged them not to believe things that were not demonstrable by evidence.


He taught them about cause and effect relationships of man’s existence and that everything was ultimately traceable to Matter – something that can be seen.


The students it appeared seemed to enjoy this explanation of life and their own existence; the problem was that it debunked their understanding of faith, religion and God.


They had grown up believing, as Christians and Muslims, that there is God. But they could not see him. How were they going to resolve this matter of ‘Matter’ and science on one hand, God on the other hand.


This lecturer professed no faith, and did not believe in God, or so the students thought, until one fateful morning when one of the students sighted the lecturer walking out of church after a Sunday morning service.


Bewildered, confused feeling misled or deceived by a teacher who told him not to believe where they did not see or could not prove, (and this in the student’s mind extended to God) and to see the purveyor of that view walking out of church, with Bible in hand, was the biggest betrayal that was not going to pass unchallenged.


The student walked up to his teacher, quickly conveyed his courtesies of “Good morning sir” and the following conversation ensued:

“What are you doing there sir? You came to church?”

“Yes,” answered the teacher. “I worship here every Sunday.”

“You believe in God?”

“Yes I do.”

“Why have you been deceiving us?”

“How have I been deceiving you?”

“You taught us to believe that God does not exist since we cannot prove it,” the student said.

“No. I did not. I believe in God,” the teacher replied.

“My faith is different from my job. Your school is training you to become lawyers.

“They have employed me to develop your minds to question and challenge things. To seek knowledge, never to be easily satisfied.

“To think, and to challenge the existing order, to drive change and never to settle for the path well-travelled.

“To dare and to dream, to seek new ways of doing the same thing, because as lawyers, people’s fates will be defined by choices you make. “Their lives will sometimes depend on your abilities, as will their businesses or their marriages. That is my job.

“Whether you believe in God or not is not my business. That is your personal choice.”Ladies and Gentlemen, that is as best as I can recall this event.

The school where this event happened is where we gather today. The great University of Benin. The faculty that offered the course in Philosophy is the Faculty of Law.

The lecturer was either Greek or Cypriot. His name was Theodoropolous. I was the student in question. That encounter shaped my life in many ways; and even if I say so, I am the better for it having gone through it.

If I had to choose a university again, it would be University of Benin. It is that experience I had that I feel bound to share with you today as you leave the University.

If I successfully connect with only one of you, I believe the effort will have been worthwhile. That is why I have titled my intervention: “FREEDOM FROM FEAR, CHOICES BEFORE THE NEW GENERATION”, in the hope that I will challenge you to take control of what happens to you and what happens around you.

I say this because there seems to be an increasing manifestation of our collective surrender of our individual choices and free will to divine intervention and the possibility of endless miracles. We are now in the realm and reality of constant expectations of miracles and divine intervention.Superstitions have taken over reason and logic.

When we pass examinations, win football matches, conduct successful elections, or achieve any feat, we seem all too frightened and unsure of ourselves to take credit for even the most modest of successes attributable to our efforts. The first thing you hear is God did it.

For the avoidance of doubt, I believe in God, and only He can question my faith. But I also believe He gave us a lot of free will.

Regrettably, we have surrendered our capacities and abilities in a frightful way to FEAR, that we have become victims of some confidence tricksters who deceive, disentitle and prey on our fears and frailties in ‘gods’ name.

Every man and woman of substance now has a Pastor, Imam, Spiritualist or even a witchdoctor or Dibia who is responsible for telling them what to do, when to do it, in a way that diminishes his abilities and surrenders his talents and free will to divine intervention or spiritual consultation.

Many people are disappearing and are being murdered in a crazed quest for human parts because some who have been entrapped in fear and superstition, believe that you can make money through ritual sacrifice. Nothing can be further from the truth.

Human parts are tissues, bones, muscles and all that, and they have no place in the materials used to manufacture money. There is nothing Divine in money making. It is entrepreneurship, production and hard work.

The teaching of science as espoused by Theodoropolous tells me that money is a product of man and not a product of God.

It is manufactured in a place called a Mint, by a process of printing, using special paper, ink, engravement and embossment, to make it difficult to fake or counterfeit.

When we play a football match and get to half-time, which is a few precious minutes to quickly refresh, renew and re-plan in the dressing room, we instead gather to pray, on the field, in a huddle that the whole world is still trying to fathom.

We waste the precious time that is allotted for tactical review, and return to the second half, singing and praying, “He is a miracle working God” in search of divine intervention. The truth is that we have done well when we prepare and done badly when we do not.

Sometimes of course, working hard does not always bring the expected results but it is better than not working hard. Yes, God is a miracle worker. I believe, but he is not an unjust God who rewards those who make no effort at the expense of those who do.

I once listened to a sermon broadcast on Television, asking people who are indebted to step forward for prayers that will make their debts disappear. It frightens me. It does not make sense to me. Debts are accounting, matters of credits and deficits. They do not vanish.

It is people who live in FEAR who fall prey to such teachings and become victims of misery from poor choices. I urge you to free your minds from such fears. There are many teachings about freedoms.

Freedom from want, Freedom of Associations, Freedom of speech, freedom of choice (including the choice of leadership by voting at elections) and many others. But the least expressed freedom, is the freedom from FEAR, which in my view is the most important. A mind taken over by fear cannot express free will and will therefore not fully optimize or benefit from the other freedoms.

For example, we have seen that elections are conducted in other parts on the basis of polls, campaigns, analysis of human behaviour rather than any occultic or sacrificial offering. Candidates who wish to win elections must persuade people to agree to their messages and promises, and seek to change the minds of those who are unpersuaded, by understanding what they want and taking steps to address them.

Those who may not be initial converts can change their minds, as we have seen in our own President who finally won after 3 (THREE) unsuccessful attempts. For those who do not know, let me share with you some of the things that President Buhari did to win the last election.

A poll was conducted across Nigeria and administered to 20,000 Nigerians as a sample, with each person answering 60 (sixty) questions administered face to face.
That meant that the poll had to analyse 1,200,000 (ONE MILLION, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND) responses on what Nigerians wanted in the 2015 election.

The top 3 (THREE) were security, corruption and economy, which was to form the core of candidate Buhari’s campaign message that produced President Buhari. This is how to win elections.

Polls are of course not fool proof. They can be manipulated or misinterpreted by those who analyse data. They can also be misunderstood . – Hillary leading but had over 60% Trust deficit.Let me tell you another story related to me. This is the story of the ram.

A friend related to me how his mother had a bad dream concerning his well-being.
The dream was related to the mother’s Imam. His response was that there had to be a sacrifice.
I interrupted by asking if the sacrifice involved buying a ram and he said yes.

Seeking to know how I knew. My response was that Ileya (the Muslim festival of Eid-El-Kabir) of Ram sacrifice was 3 (THREE) weeks away and (at the time) any trickster who could not afford one would find foul or fair means to get a ram even though Islam does not make it a matter of compulsion.

Whilst I am not passing any judgement on the Imam and any other man of God, because I cannot question their faith, the coincidence was just too uncanny. Yet I agree I may be wrong.
However, I do not see how sacrifices are solutions to dreams.

Dreams are scientific events occurring as a result of the Rapid Eye Movement during sleep at a stage when our brains are most active.Let me reiterate again that I have no quarrel with faith. What I seek to advocate is the lack of FEAR, and the resort to faith out of conviction rather than as a result of FEAR.

Fear takes choices away, and choices can and must be the product of conviction. If we pursue our choices with as much conviction as we pursue our faith, we will certainly be a more prosperous society.

Let us remember, that at least the two dominant faiths are not original to us. They are inherited. The propagators of the faith have made them personal affairs and not public ones. I have attended meetings in the West and in the Middle East and not on one occasion have these meetings been started or ended with prayers.

Meetings represent public undertakings and places of work and productive undertakings to deliver prosperity. When those people have worked hard for the week, they go on Fridays and Sundays to their places of worship and their homes to offer prayers, for God to bless and prosper the work of their hands.

Sadly, back home, the head of Governments, heads of ministries, and businesses, devote early mornings at work to prayers with their staff while productive man hours tick away, they do the same at home and on weekends, we socialise.
In effect we spend a lot of time praying and socializing.

How can this lead us to prosperity? If this is not faith influenced by fear, I do not know what it is.
If you visit many construction sites where the Chinese are employed as contractors, you will find that they work on Sundays, but we who have unemployment challenges, do not often work on Sunday.

We have invested a worrisome amount of money in building places of worship compared to what we have in building factories, businesses and schools.
This is worrisome compared to the investments I see in businesses and schools that outstrip investment in places of worship in the West and Middle East.
Recently, while driving along a road of not more than 5 (FIVE) kilometres in a Nigerian city, a colleague and I took an unplanned census of building types and this is what we counted:

a) 1 laundry outfit for washing and dry cleaning clothes (Job place)

b) 3 clinics for healthcare (Job place)

c) 2 petrol filling stations (Job place)

d) 1 bank branch (Job place)

e) 4 shopping outlets (Job place)

f) 1 eatery (Job place)

g) 10 religious houses (Worship place)


As you go around your states and neighbourhoods, I urge you to do a similar count and tell your neighbour what you see.

Again I reiterate, I do not criticise worship, but I am challenging you to think through the choices you will make. We will not pray our way out of recession, we will plan, and produce our way back to prosperity and out of recession and you are the freshest, youngest and most energetic workforce we will have to work with.

You are the new batteries to power the engine of growth of our country. Your choices must be clear, free from fear, not reckless but driven by analytical thought, questioning and probing and ultimately determined by convictions.

In order to test the consequences of choices based on faith influenced by fear, I advise you to look at the world map and 2 (TWO) Island nations who are situated on the Northern Hemisphere.

I will not tell you their names. You find that out. But I will tell you they are close to each other. One believes in God and works hard. The other one is the home of voodoo and spends all time practising this.

If you follow their history, the first one is prosperous and the second one seems to have made a permanent contract with poverty. This can be changed if and when they make the right choices.

While still on this matter, let me speak about traditional medicine as distinct from divination.

Traditional medicine, from herbs, roots, and other endowments
of nature have their place of pre-eminence in the assurance of our wellbeing and good health. I cannot say the same thing about divination and sacrifices.

We must choose to work our iron ore to produce steel and build skyscrapers, machines and tools like others do instead of worshipping the god of Iron. We must use engineering to manage and control flooding and erosion.

We must probe the treasures of our forests and depths of our oceans as bastions of possibilities that we must manage and dominate instead of worshipping the god of the sea.

If we continue to fear the sea, oceans and waters we will perpetuate the practice of sacrifice, instead of undertaking the enterprise of understanding; and dominating them for energy and transport.........

Cont......
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists 'have Higher Iqs' - Daniel Bates (1) by akintom(op): 7:13am On Nov 28, 2016
felixomor:
As in eh.
The idleness is real. wink
Second confirmation, in less than 10 minutes.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists 'have Higher Iqs' - Daniel Bates (1) by akintom(op): 7:10am On Nov 28, 2016
shyling:
talk of idleness..no be only IQ Na lq
Now you're confirming the study.
Christianity EtcAtheists 'have Higher Iqs' - Daniel Bates (1) by akintom(op):
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific'

*Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion

*Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs

By Daniel Bates

Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study.

Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides.

They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said.

New evidence: A study has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers

The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year.

In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive.

Even among children, the more intelligent a child was the more probable it was that they would shun the church.
In old age the same trend persisted as well, the research showed.

The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief.
They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’.

In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’.

‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits.

‘More intelligent people getting higher level jobs and better employment and higher salary may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.’

Study co-author Jordan Silberman, a graduate student of neuroeconomics at the University of Rochester, said: ‘Intelligence may lead to greater self-control ability, self-esteem, perceived control over life events, and supportive relationships, obviating some of the benefits that religion sometimes provides.’

The research analysed 63 surveys comparing intelligence levels and religious beliefs between 1928 and 2012
Research from the UK last week showed another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian - you lose out in the race for top jobs.

Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions.

But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK.
Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million.

However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html#ixzz4RHRkYAtK 
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Christianity EtcRe: D by akintom(m): 11:53pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:
The following is 1963 Survey on Majority Of Israeli Jewish Youth showing the depths to which indoctrination can go.

Read carefully

The first part of the first text presented to the children read:


You are well acquainted with the following passages from the book of Joshua: “So the people shouted when the priests blew the trumpets; and it came to pass when the people heard the sound of the trumpet and the people shouted with a great shout and the wall fell down flat, so that they people went into the city every man straight ahead and they took the city. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass with the edge of the sword. (VI, 20, 21) And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword and the kings thereof he utterly destroyed and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it; but did unto the king thereof as he did unto the king of Jericho.”
After reading the passage, the children were asked the following questions:

1. Do you think that Joshua, and the Sons of Israel acted right or not? Explain your view.

2. Suppose the Israeli army conquers an Arab village in battle. Do you think it would be proper to act against the inhabitants as did Joshua with the people of Jericho and Makkedah? Explain your view.

600 of the children expressed total approval of Joshua’s destruction of Jericho and the application of his methods to the Arabs. Only 200 totally disapproved while 200 expressed mixed feelings — either partial approval or disapproval.

The same children were then presented with a version of the same story taken from ancient Chinese history:

General Lin, who founded the Chinese kingdom some 3000 years ago went to war with his army to conquer them a land. They came to some great cities with high walls and strong fortresses. The Chinese War God appeared to General Lin in a dream and promised him victory, ordering him to kill all living souls in the cities, because these people belonged to other religions. General Lin and his soldiers took the towns and utterly destroyed all that was therein, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep, and ass with the edge of the sword. After destroying the cities they continued their way conquering many countries.
Only 70 children among the group of over 1000 totally approved of General Lin’s methods. 750 totally disapproved while the rest expressed mixed feelings.

Here is a breakdown of Tamarin’s findings:

A = total approval

B = partial approval or disapproval

C = total disapproval

On the Joshua question: (A) 60% (B) 20% (C) 20%

On the General Lin : (A) 7% (B) 18% (C) 75%



Why did a majority of the children support applying Joshua’s destruction of Jericho to the Arabs, while strongly rejecting the methods of the non-Jewish General Lin? Here are a few of the children’s justifications:

The Israeli army would have acted rightly if it acted towards the Arabs as Joshua acted towards the people of Jericho and Makeddah. I think so because if they would have left the people and the city, the Arabs would have invaded the city and fought them.

I think they acted well, as Joshua did, because the Arabs want us to believe in their idols.

Joshua and the Sons of Israel did not act well, as they could have spared the animals for themselves.

Joshua acted properly because the people who inhabited the land were of a different religion, when Joshua killed them he wiped their religion from the earth.

How quickly they saw the barbaric nature of the Chinese actions but never saw the same when it came to the biblical Joshua. This is what religion does, it clouds our judgment of even the most ruthless acts. Anything justified by God must be right, people have used this to justify slavery and in some cases genocide.

The Israeli youths might have actually had a fair excuse given they are supposed to be distant descendants of the biblical Jews. What's troubling is that I'm 100% sure that If this same question were given to Nigerian children with a fair Knowledge of the bible the result would have been more or less the same. They would see the acts of Joshua as good and that of the general as evil. Truly sad.

But what's even more troubling (I know right, what could be more troubling?) If this same poll was given to Nigerian adults the result would have again been more or less the same, rational educated Nigerian adults would have seen no problem with Joshua's actions. Even on this very thread I'm sure there are people that will defend Joshua and his sponsored genocide, because they were all taught religion.
And that is most troubling.

So guys what do you think, should we really teach our children religion?

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I know for fact (on the basis of research findings in Behavioural Neuroscience), that religious beliefs are inimical and inhibitory to balanced mental functions.

Religious beliefs creates bunch of illusionary and delusionary entities. Who are themselves unaware, of how unconstrained they are in their weird behaviors.

The attitude of using mere God idea to define how you perceive, relate and accept fellow human, is disgusting and distasteful.

There's is no way that i will ever wished that children, are taught such subject as horrific and despicable as God idea.
Christianity EtcRe: I Don't Think We Christians Really Study Our Bibles by akintom(m): 9:18pm On Nov 27, 2016
Gboyee4fun:
lol, Are you done quoting from the book you are against ?, i will even be stupid to reply you on the scripture chapter and verses you quoted....I have seen how little your understanding about life is.....there are many people that can do more than you when it comes to attacking the bible, go and learn from them first....
The usual defeatist escape route of your likes on NL
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Christian Interpretation by akintom(m): 11:47am On Nov 27, 2016
Godgay:
don't wear makeup,don't dress cool,don't eat good foods,bla bla bla ridiculous dogma making people living miserable lives
Religious folks are good study in amusement and foolery.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Christian Interpretation by akintom(m): 11:25am On Nov 27, 2016
Godgay:
I would have managed Christ embassy if I was still instrested in the religion,the likes mfm lords chosen drains human life
MFM and chosen are ridiculously weird. They are virtual vampires.
Christianity EtcRe: Your marriage and your Ancestry. By Dr D.K . Olukoya. by akintom(op): 11:22am On Nov 27, 2016
mauriceju2:
The greatest weapon you have as a Christian in spiritual war faire is the word of God, the name of Jesus and the blood of Jesus, as long as you live a holy and righteous life, quote the word of God against what you are going through, no power can challenge the word of God

EZEKIEL 18:
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “What do you mean by using this proverb concerning the land of Israel:
The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge?
As I live” — this is the declaration of the Lord GOD — “you will no longer use this proverb in Israel. 4 Look, every life belongs to Me. The life of the father is like the life of the son — both belong to Me. The person who sins is the one who will die.
5 “Now suppose a man is righteous and does what is just and right: 6 He does not eat at the mountain shrines or raise his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife or come near a woman during her menstrual impurity. 7 He doesn’t oppress anyone but returns his collateral to the debtor. He does not commit robbery, but gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with clothing. 8 He doesn’t lend at interest or for profit but keeps his hand from wrongdoing and carries out true justice between men. 9 He follows My statutes and keeps My ordinances, acting faithfully. Such a person is righteous; he will certainly live.” This is the declaration of the Lord GOD.
10 “Now suppose the man has a violent son, who sheds blood and does any of these things, 11 though the father has done none of them. Indeed, when the son eats at the mountain shrines and defiles his neighbor’s wife, 12 and when he oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, and does not return collateral, and when he raises his eyes to the idols, commits detestable acts, 13 and lends at interest or for profit, will he live? He will not live! Since he has committed all these detestable acts, he will certainly die. His blood will be on him.
14 “Now suppose he has a son who sees all the sins his father has committed, and though he sees them, he does not do likewise. 15 He does not eat at the mountain shrines or raise his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife. 16 He doesn’t oppress anyone, hold collateral, or commit robbery. He gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with clothing. 17 He keeps his hand from harming the poor, not taking interest or profit on a loan. He practices My ordinances and follows My statutes. Such a person will not die for his father’s iniquity. He will certainly live.
18 “As for his father, he will die for his own iniquity because he practiced fraud, robbed his brother, and did what was wrong among his people. 19 But you may ask, ‘Why doesn’t the son suffer punishment for the father’s iniquity? ’ Since the son has done what is just and right, carefully observing all My statutes, he will certainly live. 20 The person who sins is the one who will die. A son won’t suffer punishment for the father’s iniquity, and a father won’t suffer punishment for the son’s iniquity. The righteousness of the righteous person will be on him, and the wickedness of the wicked person will be on him.
21 “Now if the wicked person turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will certainly live; he will not die. 22 None of the transgressions he has committed will be held against him. He will live because of the righteousness he has practiced. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? ” This is the declaration of the Lord GOD. “Instead, don’t I take pleasure when he turns from his ways and lives? 24 But when a righteous person turns from his righteousness and practices iniquity, committing the same detestable acts that the wicked do, will he live? None of the righteous acts he did will be remembered. He will die because of the treachery he has engaged in and the sin he has committed.
Prayer (quoting the Bible) doesn't address human challenges, practical actions does.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Christian Interpretation by akintom(m): 10:21am On Nov 27, 2016
plavic:
It's simple. Bible says, we see in part and according to what we see, we prophesy

MEANING THAT

no single church is equal to the body of Christ. We find the church of Christ according to the revelation we've caught.

Christ Embassy caught the Love revelation.

Winner's Chapel caught the Faith rvelation.

Deeper Life caught the Holiness revelation.

etc

Other gospels include that of Righteousness, Eternal life, Power, the Kingdom, Fire etc

Instead of bringing these doctrines together under a perfect church, you find churches criticizing each other.

God wants a spotless bride. None of these doctines were or are wrong.
The problems with Christian religion is not just fractional doctrines, but conflicting doctrines.

How does the body (church) function NORMALLY when the heart conflict the lungs functionally?

Christ embassy - love

Conflicts

MFM - enemies must suffer evil and die.

Winners - materialism

Conflicts

Deeper - deprivation

One says Jesus is God, another says Jesus is not God (JW).

Christian religion is an idea built on ignorance, irrational fears, illusion and delusion.
Christianity EtcRe: Religious Institutions Have Done Havoc To Nigeria - Tunde Bakare by akintom(op): 10:05am On Nov 27, 2016
Religion has never and will not ever serve any good purpose.
PoliticsRe: Ondo Election: Official INEC Result Updates In 17 Local Governments - Vanguard by akintom(m): 9:59am On Nov 27, 2016
Pavarottii:
If u feel so, according to ur last line; den that's ur forecast and ur belief. I av no problem with it.

Enjoy ur change and recession.

Happy Sunday.
Facts not believe.......

Pray to God to help the blinds see the road, while at it remember this...

PoliticsRe: Ondo Election: Official INEC Result Updates In 17 Local Governments - Vanguard by akintom(m): 9:37am On Nov 27, 2016
Pavarottii:
GEJ left a reserve of 30billion dollars.
Sovereign Wealth fund 1.2 billion dollars.
Excess. Crude account 2billion dollars.
LnG paid a debt of 4billion dolllars just as buhari entered.

Now this is about 36billlion dollars. And which he. Could av saved more. But ur APC governor took him to court to share money Cos. They wanted to sponsor buhari's election.

Now this is done by With fuel hovering around. 60dollars to 118 dollars per barrel.

Now buhari has sold fuel averagely at 40dollars per barrel. Pls wat has he done wiv d sales.


Now to d economy our GDP was 519billion dollars and oil contributed only 15% to it; wiv manufacturing, automobile, banking, entertainment, mining etc making up for the remaining percentage; now our GDP is around 270billion dollars; DO U STILL BLAME OIL SALES?
Of what values are these manipulated figures under PDP, when Nigeria couldn't produce what she will eat at least.?

Of what use is the figure when it was the corrupt enrichment of few rogues?

Of what use is the figure when SA shoprite cargoes into Nigeria banana, pumpkin, mangoes etc grown by sa farmers?

Of what use is the figure, when bank ceo and directors pounce on depositors money without proper loan procedure, to acquire investment outside Nigeria?

Of what use is the figure, when young Nigerians, find no value in dignity of Labour, but in criminality of terrorism, militancy and other vices. Because they see politicians becoming filthy wealthy with our commonwealth?.


.... Nigeria Is on the path of recovery from decadence.
Christianity EtcReligious Institutions Have Done Havoc To Nigeria - Tunde Bakare by akintom(op): 9:25am On Nov 27, 2016
Now this is coming from the religious leaders.

PoliticsRe: Presidency Is The Main Objective For South East Not Biafra.. by akintom(m): 9:03am On Nov 27, 2016
modath:
http://punchng.com/igbo-want-presidency-not-biafra-says-iwuanyanwu/


Mynd44 lalasticlala
Constructive consideration can now begin. Now that an elder has finally spoken.

It's rather surprising that, the destiny of the Igbo has until now been left in the hands of wrongly informed juveniles.
PoliticsRe: Ondo Election: Official INEC Result Updates In 17 Local Governments - Vanguard by akintom(m): 8:56am On Nov 27, 2016
everozone:
Nig. economy was robust wen PDP was in charge.PMB's policies brought d mess
How robust is the economy under PDP?
Christianity EtcRe: 3 False Idols And Teachings Of Modern Christianity by akintom(m): 8:35am On Nov 27, 2016
iliyande:
I can name more than three false idols in modern Christianity, but which three stand out to you? Which ones would you include?

Being Relevant
I actually heard one pastor say that “we can’t be preaching the Bible to people in the world because it’s not relevant to them.” What!? I have to admit, I was angered by that. Isn’t the gospel the power of salvation (Rom. 1:16)? Does this pastor think he has more power than the word of God to save? Has he invented a better way than the Spirit of God mixed with the Word of God making the children of God? I think he’s the one who’s irrelevant. The Word of God never needs changing; it abides forever (1 Pet. 1:25). These churches that don’t want to offend people are more interested in filling the pews than filling people with the Word of God. Sorry, milk-toast pastor, but the Word is supposed to cut in order to heal because soft words make hard hearts, but hard words make soft hearts, and the Word of God is supposed to comfort the afflicted, but afflict the comfortable. Pragmatism is deadly as a doctrine. Feelings over faith is toxic.

Self-Improvement
This comes close to being found in every prosperity gospel I have ever heard. They want you to come to their church so that your life will be better and you’ll be happier, but I have news for them. My life got harder after I became a Christian. Many of my former friends spurned me. Much of my family thought I was brainwashed. Some sermon topics are “How to Live a Happier Life” or “How You Can Find More Fulfillment.” Excuse me, but isn’t worship all about God and His glory? What about preaching about repentance, sin, the cross, the blood of the Lamb, holiness, sanctification, and actual biblical topics? Instead of love for God being taught, it’s all about love for self. It’s not theology but “me-ology” they are preaching. Christ is not the focus; we are!

We’re All God’s Children
Pluralism has extended its deadly tentacles into the modern churches. No, not all of them, but the idea that we should embrace other religions is a false notion and one from many modern churches. The bumper sticker that reads “coexist” sounds nice, but try telling that to the extremists who continuously murder Christians around the world. We are not all God’s children. Some are clearly children of the Devil, which is what Jesus told the religious authorities in His day (John 8:44), and John wrote that “we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are” (1 John 3:10). Once, when Paul and Barnabas were opposed by Elymas the sorcerer, who tried to turn the proconsul away from the faith (Acts 13:cool, Paul told him, “You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery” (Acts 13:10).

Conclusion
Can you leave a comment about other false idols that are infiltrating many churches today? I can cover only three here, and I know that the focus is shifting toward the self, toward being pragmatic or favoring what people want to hear and a tickling of ears. In Paul’s last letter before his execution, he warned Timothy that “the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths” (2 Tim 4:3-4). I fear that time has come.

May God richly bless you,
Pastor Jack Wellman
http://faithinthenews.com/top-3-false-idols-of-modern-christianity/

Lalasticlala
Dare to remove these three "idols" from churches, if they wouldn't become relics and museums, like cathedrals in the West.

Remove traditional religion (the Yoruba variant) doctrine from MFM if it will not become empty.

Remove financial empowerment gist from winners chapel, it will put oyedepo's jets up for sale.

Remove "my skydaddy say there's someone with back pain here", from Rccg, lagos - ibadan Road will be free for the purpose it was meant for.
Christianity EtcRe: Existence Of God, And Search For Acceptable Evidence by akintom(op): 8:16am On Nov 27, 2016
[quote author=DarkRebel101 post=51411075]v[i]Time-wasting venture[/i]. The burden of proof rest not on Christians,the onus rather is on Atheists to prove SOMETHING came out of NOTHING, which they haven't been able to do convincingly[quote]you simply don't understand scientific culture.

With science, knowledge is progressive (the reason for gradual civilization of the world).

With religion, knowledge is completely complete (nothing can be added to it or taken from it).


[quote author=DarkRebel101 post=51411075]Nothing puzzles me than human looking for the logical symmetry behind a phenomenon too complex for their little human brains[quote]There's nothing complex in God idea or religious idiocy. It's to the folks infested with religious ideas, that it's complex. I
Christianity EtcRe: Your marriage and your Ancestry. By Dr D.K . Olukoya. by akintom(op): 8:07am On Nov 27, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:
Keep your delusion to yourself. Don't quote me to show it. It doesn't change anything in me. So save the stress
It's changing your perception of your Idol, just that you can't perceive it yet.
Christianity EtcRe: Existence Of God, And Search For Acceptable Evidence by akintom(op): 7:58am On Nov 27, 2016
ScienceWatch:
Hi Akintom, your high learning is a stumbling block to you. There are Professors that have courageously broken away from the mind-numbing and selfish games know as atheism, agnosticism, rational atheists and other labels invented to accommodate the mentally insane.
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The more you know, the less ignorant you become.
The more receptive you're to knowledge, the less gullible you become.
The more rational you become by learning, the less religious beliefs makes sense to you.
The more sound minded via learning you are, the less irrational fears has hold on your life


ScienceWatch:
It is very painful to be chained to a highly specialized mental skill developed only for a specific task, then foolishly attempt to challenge the existence of God. Meanwhile, Your method of questioning may work when interrogating a drug dealer that is also running a child-care centre.
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The scientific knowledge is for the purpose of understanding our universe and world, so that we can optimize its good and reduce its evil.

But while at this task, we discovered that all the claims of religion, especially Bible, started falling like dominion.


ScienceWatch:
The words you bring to the investigation of God is a serious hindrance to clarity. Confusion is all you will labour for. ( Empirical, verifiable, reproducible and falsifiable, contradictory unlimited beliefs, There's nothing like spirit or spirituality, God has not been found to be a known and established factor, misogynistic, ignorance induced medical diagnosis , Circularity syndrome and anecdotal evidences, no evidence of your God in places you hid it, No scientists went researching your God existence ) Have mercy on me !
That's is the purpose of my writings. To cast doubts on what religious folks believed. By this, they will be compel to ask themselves fundamental questions, about what they have been holding on to, without examining its usefulness.

The end result is demystification of God idea.

ScienceWatch:
Akindom, How about a simple task for you to do, then come and share your findings with Nairaland members ?
Help us find if the insert below is ignorance induced ;
I have established that time over here.


ScienceWatch:
Here we see Jesus Christ tell Atheists the real reason why they can’t believe the evidence of His miraculous WORKS.

Joh 7:14 Now about the middle of the Jewish religious festival in Israel, Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
Joh 7:15 And the Jews were amazed, saying, How do this man know this, having never learned?
The right question ought to have been, where had Jesus been, before the time he came to preach to them.

The fact that Jesus didn't learn at their synagogue didn't mean, he couldn't had learned somewhere else.

Jesus went to study philosophy, psychology and theology over the period of 13 years to 30 years (historical accounts of the life of Jesus, will educate you more on this). He returned with radical Judaism. Just like radical religious folks of today.

At first it sounded cool to the Jews, who were disillusioned by Roman rule on them (because it was against the experience they had read in Torah). Because they tot Jesus will lead them in revolution against Roman government.

But when Jews realized that Jesus was deluded and can't relate with rational behavior, they went after him. So that he wouldn't make their life under Roman government more difficult.

ScienceWatch:
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, the doctrine you hear is not mine, but the true God that sent me.
Joh 8:29 And He that sent me is with me: God has not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him. (Restoring the lives of suffering people.)
Just like the radical doctrines of Boko Haram, both Muslims(civilised ones) and secular folks can't see any rational sense in what they were saying. Only the sect find meaning in the radical doctrines.

Most of the esoteric gists by Jesus, were of the same text and concept, as any of the radical doctrines of extremists in the world.

ScienceWatch:
Joh 8:38 I speak and do that which I have seen with my Father the true God: and you do that which you have seen with your father Satan.
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When a man claims to be seeing what others can't see, hear what others can't hear and behaving and arrogating invincible ability to himself, there is just one name for the folk - chronic delusion.

ScienceWatch:
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto the Jews, If the true God were your Father, you would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me.
The usual claims of extremists.


ScienceWatch:
Joh 8:44 You are from your god, the devil, and the lusts of your god you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and live not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the god of lies.
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In-group and out-group psychology.


ScienceWatch:
Consider what Jesus said to the Jews earlier,

Joh 6:65 And Jesus said, I have said to you, that no one can come to me and believe what I am doing, except, if the true God sends them to me.
The more esoteric and conflicting the message, the easier it's to confuse the gullible.
Christianity EtcRe: Your marriage and your Ancestry. By Dr D.K . Olukoya. by akintom(op): 7:12am On Nov 27, 2016
RadicallyBlunt:
Keep your delusion to yourself. Don't quote me to show it. It doesn't change anything in me. So save the stress
Sorry, you can't use this page to praise a man, that's out of touch with mental sanity.

A man under the influence of traditional religious beliefs.

A man misleading folks into grand acts of evil and wickedness against fellow humans. By falsely accusing them of witchcraft.

A man contained of his deluded witch hunting charade in UK.

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