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naijadeyhia:This is still a part of how the study confirms the average intelligent level of theists. The variables in mensa study is different from the variables in this present study. You simply lack the capacity and capability to read and understand research works. |
GrizzlyBear:The focus of the study, is the use of critical thinking and reasons, in addressing life challenges. Atheists are higher in ranking, compare to theists. By default, religious beliefs intercept and inhibit (though at different degrees), a rational approach to addressing life challenges. |
PDBonline:"The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year. In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive." |
ScienceWatch:You have simply presented yourself, as a severely ignorant folk, who knows next to nothing, of the value of science and specifically, medical science. Wipe off all the advances of medical science, you will be back in era whereby a single microorganism caused epidemic, can wipe out a whole community. You certainly wish that type of era, so that you and your prophet can continue to hold the victims to ransom. I have done MR for various folks, who went to see your prophet for healing, they ALL came back, WITHOUT exception, with their diagnosis. Stop displaying falsehood. |
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific' *Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion *Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs By Daniel Bates Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study. Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides. They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said. New evidence: A study has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year. The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year. In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive. Even among children, the more intelligent a child was the more probable it was that they would shun the church. In old age the same trend persisted as well, the research showed. The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief. They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’. In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’. ‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits. ‘More intelligent people getting higher level jobs and better employment and higher salary may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.’ Study co-author Jordan Silberman, a graduate student of neuroeconomics at the University of Rochester, said: ‘Intelligence may lead to greater self-control ability, self-esteem, perceived control over life events, and supportive relationships, obviating some of the benefits that religion sometimes provides.’ The research analysed 63 surveys comparing intelligence levels and religious beliefs between 1928 and 2012 Research from the UK last week showed another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian - you lose out in the race for top jobs. Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions. But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS). The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK. Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million. However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html#ixzz4RHRkYAtK Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT In general, iq is an assessment of your ability to THINK and REASON. However, your score on an iq test, will give you a pretty accurate indication of the ability you possess to: * Think * Reason * Solve problems, Which can often be critical in many phases of your life. .................................................................................................................. The study i posted in the part 1 of this thread defined intelligence as: "the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’. .................................................................................................................. All the theists that commented on the thread, did overwhelmingly authenticated the validity of the study. None of the theists ever thought that the only way, to disprove the study, was to bring forth debate or arguments, that are based on critical thinking and reasons. Better still, they could bring forth studies that disprove this particular study been referenced. Rather, they went down the path of infantile emotions, pettiness, court jesting and illusionary gloating. I spared them the space, so they could give a robust display of their intelligence level. And true to their limited capacity, the level of their displayed intelligence, agreed perfectly with the findings of the study. NL theists are good sample of religious folks, when testing the validity of studies, on the inherent basis for defining religion as irrational and idiotic idea. |
Lennycool:Of course, Lennycool, Religion thrives on irrational fears and ignorance. Those literate theists would rather choose, to become primitive and disgusting cavemen, when religion is the subject matter. So pathetic. |
Wilgrea7:Just in....... Another confirmation of below average iq. |
We must approach our rock formations as treasure troves of building materials like marble, tiles and granite rather than treat them as totems of salvation that require animal sacrifice. We should stop deifying the moon and stratosphere beyond the visibility of our eyes out of fear. Instead we should develop the courage and resolve to send men and women to land a space craft there. I fully understand that some of you who have been raised in an environment dominated by your fear, may have been adversely affected by it. But let me assure you that freedom from fear is not the same as courage. Instead while fear is an emotion, freedom from it is the ability to overcome it by refusing to surrender to it. It comes from developing an ability to question things, to challenge the existing order and create a new order. It has been done before. It requires us to know our choices and beliefs and dispense with culture that is not dynamic. That is why twins survive today. We stopped killing them and turned our backs against a Philistinic practice that was masquerading as a culture. If you surrender to fear, people less educated, less intelligent and less qualified than you will take over your minds, your homes and your decision making powers. Many of such people are confidence tricksters who will prosper at your expense by preying on your fear. Therefore, let me say to you that while your education may not be perfect, while there may be challenges, there is room to improve on it, because your education does not end her Indeed, your education has just started. What you have learnt in the controlled environment of university classrooms will be subject to the test of real life situations. How you improve and educate yourself depends on how you use your minds. For example, do you simply repeat and reaffirm what you hear people to say simply because they are highly placed and supposedly intelligent? Do you verify it yourself before repeating it to others ? Do you ever ask yourself if those people could be wrong? Yes, they can be. We are all flawed. Do you ask yourself whether those you quote without question even read as much as you do? Do you think in terms of these words:- “Impossible”, “Improbable,” “Unlikely” ? If you do, please stop it. They are symbols and signposts of fear. Almost everything that was once thought impossible, improbable, unlikely has happened. Men and women now fly thousands of Kilometres in the sky. They eat, sleep, even now shower on the Airbus A380, an engineering feat delivered by engineers of Airbus and Boeing who started out life like you, as young graduates like you. 5nd its burden, you may lose the opportunity to focus on crime management strategies like more policemen, crime detection methods, employment and training of judges. Indeed, as they say, if you see every problem as a nail, the only solution you might evolve is a hammer. So, please look for the positive angle of a difficult situation, because there will be one, if you look hard enough. I urge you to free your mind from fear, reach for the skies, choose by conviction and not by fear; trust in your abilities and God given talent, take responsibility, work hard and pray if you believe. Yes, Sango is the god of lightning and thunder, but all the sacrifices made to Sango has not generated 1 (ONE) kilowatt of electric power. Electricity is produced by using nature’s gifts , such as gas, water, solar and wind, harnessing their capacity through turbines made from steel to serve our energy needs, not by making animal sacrifices. I will conclude by urging you to look for the book titled “Start Up Nation” by Dan Senor and Saul Singer , it would provoke your thinking as it did mine. I am done. Congratulations on your graduation. May the wind be behind your sails as you set forth in the journey of life. May you fulfil your true promise, and may you be free from fear so that you can make good choices in your contribution to our national development. Thank you for listening. Babatunde Raji Fashola, SAN Honourable Minister of Power, Works and Housing 25th November 2016 |
FREEDOM FROM FEAR, CHOICES BEFORE THE NEW GENERATION – BEING THE CONVOCATION SPEEECH DELIVERED BY BABATUNDE RAJI FASHOLA, SAN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF BENIN ON THE 25TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2016 Great UNIBEN. This is the greeting amongst students on the campus of the University, and it has endured after graduation and stayed with the alumni; decades after graduation. May this greeting endure also for all of you who graduate today, and may you fulfil your destiny of greatness as products of a great institution and citadel of learning. That this university is great is beyond argument now. The evidence of this abounds in the human capital supply she has produced for Nigeria in fulfilment of the objectives of founding fathers. It is a rich store of personnel, not only in quantity, but defining in quality. In all spheres of Nigeria’s developmental endeavour, there is a representative of great UNIBEN, not only in a participatory role, but also in a leadership role that is setting worthy and commendable examples The boys and girls of yesterday have become the men and women who define the developmental character of our nation and they are waiting for you all to join them to play your role. Therefore, I intend to start my interaction with you today by telling a story. Many years ago, sometime in 1983, in a Philosophy classroom, a lecturer was telling his students about the theory of evolution, based on the Big Bang and atomic perspective of our evolution.He charged them not to believe things that were not demonstrable by evidence. He taught them about cause and effect relationships of man’s existence and that everything was ultimately traceable to Matter – something that can be seen. The students it appeared seemed to enjoy this explanation of life and their own existence; the problem was that it debunked their understanding of faith, religion and God. They had grown up believing, as Christians and Muslims, that there is God. But they could not see him. How were they going to resolve this matter of ‘Matter’ and science on one hand, God on the other hand. This lecturer professed no faith, and did not believe in God, or so the students thought, until one fateful morning when one of the students sighted the lecturer walking out of church after a Sunday morning service. Bewildered, confused feeling misled or deceived by a teacher who told him not to believe where they did not see or could not prove, (and this in the student’s mind extended to God) and to see the purveyor of that view walking out of church, with Bible in hand, was the biggest betrayal that was not going to pass unchallenged. The student walked up to his teacher, quickly conveyed his courtesies of “Good morning sir” and the following conversation ensued: “What are you doing there sir? You came to church?” “Yes,” answered the teacher. “I worship here every Sunday.” “You believe in God?” “Yes I do.” “Why have you been deceiving us?” “How have I been deceiving you?” “You taught us to believe that God does not exist since we cannot prove it,” the student said. “No. I did not. I believe in God,” the teacher replied. “My faith is different from my job. Your school is training you to become lawyers. “They have employed me to develop your minds to question and challenge things. To seek knowledge, never to be easily satisfied. “To think, and to challenge the existing order, to drive change and never to settle for the path well-travelled. “To dare and to dream, to seek new ways of doing the same thing, because as lawyers, people’s fates will be defined by choices you make. “Their lives will sometimes depend on your abilities, as will their businesses or their marriages. That is my job. “Whether you believe in God or not is not my business. That is your personal choice.”Ladies and Gentlemen, that is as best as I can recall this event. The school where this event happened is where we gather today. The great University of Benin. The faculty that offered the course in Philosophy is the Faculty of Law. The lecturer was either Greek or Cypriot. His name was Theodoropolous. I was the student in question. That encounter shaped my life in many ways; and even if I say so, I am the better for it having gone through it. If I had to choose a university again, it would be University of Benin. It is that experience I had that I feel bound to share with you today as you leave the University. If I successfully connect with only one of you, I believe the effort will have been worthwhile. That is why I have titled my intervention: “FREEDOM FROM FEAR, CHOICES BEFORE THE NEW GENERATION”, in the hope that I will challenge you to take control of what happens to you and what happens around you. I say this because there seems to be an increasing manifestation of our collective surrender of our individual choices and free will to divine intervention and the possibility of endless miracles. We are now in the realm and reality of constant expectations of miracles and divine intervention.Superstitions have taken over reason and logic. When we pass examinations, win football matches, conduct successful elections, or achieve any feat, we seem all too frightened and unsure of ourselves to take credit for even the most modest of successes attributable to our efforts. The first thing you hear is God did it. For the avoidance of doubt, I believe in God, and only He can question my faith. But I also believe He gave us a lot of free will. Regrettably, we have surrendered our capacities and abilities in a frightful way to FEAR, that we have become victims of some confidence tricksters who deceive, disentitle and prey on our fears and frailties in ‘gods’ name. Every man and woman of substance now has a Pastor, Imam, Spiritualist or even a witchdoctor or Dibia who is responsible for telling them what to do, when to do it, in a way that diminishes his abilities and surrenders his talents and free will to divine intervention or spiritual consultation. Many people are disappearing and are being murdered in a crazed quest for human parts because some who have been entrapped in fear and superstition, believe that you can make money through ritual sacrifice. Nothing can be further from the truth. Human parts are tissues, bones, muscles and all that, and they have no place in the materials used to manufacture money. There is nothing Divine in money making. It is entrepreneurship, production and hard work. The teaching of science as espoused by Theodoropolous tells me that money is a product of man and not a product of God. It is manufactured in a place called a Mint, by a process of printing, using special paper, ink, engravement and embossment, to make it difficult to fake or counterfeit. When we play a football match and get to half-time, which is a few precious minutes to quickly refresh, renew and re-plan in the dressing room, we instead gather to pray, on the field, in a huddle that the whole world is still trying to fathom. We waste the precious time that is allotted for tactical review, and return to the second half, singing and praying, “He is a miracle working God” in search of divine intervention. The truth is that we have done well when we prepare and done badly when we do not. Sometimes of course, working hard does not always bring the expected results but it is better than not working hard. Yes, God is a miracle worker. I believe, but he is not an unjust God who rewards those who make no effort at the expense of those who do. I once listened to a sermon broadcast on Television, asking people who are indebted to step forward for prayers that will make their debts disappear. It frightens me. It does not make sense to me. Debts are accounting, matters of credits and deficits. They do not vanish. It is people who live in FEAR who fall prey to such teachings and become victims of misery from poor choices. I urge you to free your minds from such fears. There are many teachings about freedoms. Freedom from want, Freedom of Associations, Freedom of speech, freedom of choice (including the choice of leadership by voting at elections) and many others. But the least expressed freedom, is the freedom from FEAR, which in my view is the most important. A mind taken over by fear cannot express free will and will therefore not fully optimize or benefit from the other freedoms. For example, we have seen that elections are conducted in other parts on the basis of polls, campaigns, analysis of human behaviour rather than any occultic or sacrificial offering. Candidates who wish to win elections must persuade people to agree to their messages and promises, and seek to change the minds of those who are unpersuaded, by understanding what they want and taking steps to address them. Those who may not be initial converts can change their minds, as we have seen in our own President who finally won after 3 (THREE) unsuccessful attempts. For those who do not know, let me share with you some of the things that President Buhari did to win the last election. A poll was conducted across Nigeria and administered to 20,000 Nigerians as a sample, with each person answering 60 (sixty) questions administered face to face. That meant that the poll had to analyse 1,200,000 (ONE MILLION, TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND) responses on what Nigerians wanted in the 2015 election. The top 3 (THREE) were security, corruption and economy, which was to form the core of candidate Buhari’s campaign message that produced President Buhari. This is how to win elections. Polls are of course not fool proof. They can be manipulated or misinterpreted by those who analyse data. They can also be misunderstood . – Hillary leading but had over 60% Trust deficit.Let me tell you another story related to me. This is the story of the ram. A friend related to me how his mother had a bad dream concerning his well-being. The dream was related to the mother’s Imam. His response was that there had to be a sacrifice. I interrupted by asking if the sacrifice involved buying a ram and he said yes. Seeking to know how I knew. My response was that Ileya (the Muslim festival of Eid-El-Kabir) of Ram sacrifice was 3 (THREE) weeks away and (at the time) any trickster who could not afford one would find foul or fair means to get a ram even though Islam does not make it a matter of compulsion. Whilst I am not passing any judgement on the Imam and any other man of God, because I cannot question their faith, the coincidence was just too uncanny. Yet I agree I may be wrong. However, I do not see how sacrifices are solutions to dreams. Dreams are scientific events occurring as a result of the Rapid Eye Movement during sleep at a stage when our brains are most active.Let me reiterate again that I have no quarrel with faith. What I seek to advocate is the lack of FEAR, and the resort to faith out of conviction rather than as a result of FEAR. Fear takes choices away, and choices can and must be the product of conviction. If we pursue our choices with as much conviction as we pursue our faith, we will certainly be a more prosperous society. Let us remember, that at least the two dominant faiths are not original to us. They are inherited. The propagators of the faith have made them personal affairs and not public ones. I have attended meetings in the West and in the Middle East and not on one occasion have these meetings been started or ended with prayers. Meetings represent public undertakings and places of work and productive undertakings to deliver prosperity. When those people have worked hard for the week, they go on Fridays and Sundays to their places of worship and their homes to offer prayers, for God to bless and prosper the work of their hands. Sadly, back home, the head of Governments, heads of ministries, and businesses, devote early mornings at work to prayers with their staff while productive man hours tick away, they do the same at home and on weekends, we socialise. In effect we spend a lot of time praying and socializing. How can this lead us to prosperity? If this is not faith influenced by fear, I do not know what it is. If you visit many construction sites where the Chinese are employed as contractors, you will find that they work on Sundays, but we who have unemployment challenges, do not often work on Sunday. We have invested a worrisome amount of money in building places of worship compared to what we have in building factories, businesses and schools. This is worrisome compared to the investments I see in businesses and schools that outstrip investment in places of worship in the West and Middle East. Recently, while driving along a road of not more than 5 (FIVE) kilometres in a Nigerian city, a colleague and I took an unplanned census of building types and this is what we counted: a) 1 laundry outfit for washing and dry cleaning clothes (Job place) b) 3 clinics for healthcare (Job place) c) 2 petrol filling stations (Job place) d) 1 bank branch (Job place) e) 4 shopping outlets (Job place) f) 1 eatery (Job place) g) 10 religious houses (Worship place) As you go around your states and neighbourhoods, I urge you to do a similar count and tell your neighbour what you see. Again I reiterate, I do not criticise worship, but I am challenging you to think through the choices you will make. We will not pray our way out of recession, we will plan, and produce our way back to prosperity and out of recession and you are the freshest, youngest and most energetic workforce we will have to work with. You are the new batteries to power the engine of growth of our country. Your choices must be clear, free from fear, not reckless but driven by analytical thought, questioning and probing and ultimately determined by convictions. In order to test the consequences of choices based on faith influenced by fear, I advise you to look at the world map and 2 (TWO) Island nations who are situated on the Northern Hemisphere. I will not tell you their names. You find that out. But I will tell you they are close to each other. One believes in God and works hard. The other one is the home of voodoo and spends all time practising this. If you follow their history, the first one is prosperous and the second one seems to have made a permanent contract with poverty. This can be changed if and when they make the right choices. While still on this matter, let me speak about traditional medicine as distinct from divination. Traditional medicine, from herbs, roots, and other endowments of nature have their place of pre-eminence in the assurance of our wellbeing and good health. I cannot say the same thing about divination and sacrifices. We must choose to work our iron ore to produce steel and build skyscrapers, machines and tools like others do instead of worshipping the god of Iron. We must use engineering to manage and control flooding and erosion. We must probe the treasures of our forests and depths of our oceans as bastions of possibilities that we must manage and dominate instead of worshipping the god of the sea. If we continue to fear the sea, oceans and waters we will perpetuate the practice of sacrifice, instead of undertaking the enterprise of understanding; and dominating them for energy and transport......... Cont...... |
felixomor:Second confirmation, in less than 10 minutes. |
shyling:Now you're confirming the study. |
Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific' *Research found those with higher IQs more likely to dismiss religion *Another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian is losing out on top jobs By Daniel Bates Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people, according to a US study. Researchers found that those with high IQs had greater self-control and were able to do more for themselves - so did not need the benefits that religion provides. They also have better self esteem and built more supportive relationships, the study authors said. New evidence: A study has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year. The conclusions were the result of a review of 63 scientific studies about religion and intelligence dating between 1928 and last year. In 53 of these there was a ‘reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity’. In just 10 was that relationship positive. Even among children, the more intelligent a child was the more probable it was that they would shun the church. In old age the same trend persisted as well, the research showed. The University of Rochester psychologists behind the study defined religion as involvement in some or all parts of a belief. They defined intelligence as the ‘ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience’. In their conclusions, they said: ‘Most extant explanations (of a negative relation) share one central theme - the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who ‘know better’. ‘Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits. ‘More intelligent people getting higher level jobs and better employment and higher salary may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs.’ Study co-author Jordan Silberman, a graduate student of neuroeconomics at the University of Rochester, said: ‘Intelligence may lead to greater self-control ability, self-esteem, perceived control over life events, and supportive relationships, obviating some of the benefits that religion sometimes provides.’ The research analysed 63 surveys comparing intelligence levels and religious beliefs between 1928 and 2012 Research from the UK last week showed another drawback to being religious, or at least Christian - you lose out in the race for top jobs. Official figures show nearly one in four people who have no religious belief now live in homes headed by someone with a senior executive job or a place in one of the professions. But well under a fifth of Christians are employed in the best-paid and most influential jobs or are married to someone who is, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS). The last census, carried out in March 2011, showed a fall in the number of people that call themselves Christian in the UK. Christian numbers in England and Wales, including children, fell by 4.1 million in a decade to 33.2 million. However there was a 45 per cent rise over the same 10 years in numbers who say they have no religion, to 14.1 million. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html#ixzz4RHRkYAtK Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
Lennycool:I know for fact (on the basis of research findings in Behavioural Neuroscience), that religious beliefs are inimical and inhibitory to balanced mental functions. Religious beliefs creates bunch of illusionary and delusionary entities. Who are themselves unaware, of how unconstrained they are in their weird behaviors. The attitude of using mere God idea to define how you perceive, relate and accept fellow human, is disgusting and distasteful. There's is no way that i will ever wished that children, are taught such subject as horrific and despicable as God idea. |
Gboyee4fun:The usual defeatist escape route of your likes on NL |
Godgay:Religious folks are good study in amusement and foolery. |
Godgay:MFM and chosen are ridiculously weird. They are virtual vampires. |
mauriceju2:Prayer (quoting the Bible) doesn't address human challenges, practical actions does. |
plavic:The problems with Christian religion is not just fractional doctrines, but conflicting doctrines. How does the body (church) function NORMALLY when the heart conflict the lungs functionally? Christ embassy - love Conflicts MFM - enemies must suffer evil and die. Winners - materialism Conflicts Deeper - deprivation One says Jesus is God, another says Jesus is not God (JW). Christian religion is an idea built on ignorance, irrational fears, illusion and delusion. |
Religion has never and will not ever serve any good purpose. |
Pavarottii:Facts not believe....... Pray to God to help the blinds see the road, while at it remember this...
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Pavarottii:Of what values are these manipulated figures under PDP, when Nigeria couldn't produce what she will eat at least.? Of what use is the figure when it was the corrupt enrichment of few rogues? Of what use is the figure when SA shoprite cargoes into Nigeria banana, pumpkin, mangoes etc grown by sa farmers? Of what use is the figure, when bank ceo and directors pounce on depositors money without proper loan procedure, to acquire investment outside Nigeria? Of what use is the figure, when young Nigerians, find no value in dignity of Labour, but in criminality of terrorism, militancy and other vices. Because they see politicians becoming filthy wealthy with our commonwealth?. .... Nigeria Is on the path of recovery from decadence. |
Now this is coming from the religious leaders.
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modath:Constructive consideration can now begin. Now that an elder has finally spoken. It's rather surprising that, the destiny of the Igbo has until now been left in the hands of wrongly informed juveniles. |
everozone:How robust is the economy under PDP? |
iliyande:Dare to remove these three "idols" from churches, if they wouldn't become relics and museums, like cathedrals in the West. Remove traditional religion (the Yoruba variant) doctrine from MFM if it will not become empty. Remove financial empowerment gist from winners chapel, it will put oyedepo's jets up for sale. Remove "my skydaddy say there's someone with back pain here", from Rccg, lagos - ibadan Road will be free for the purpose it was meant for. |
[quote author=DarkRebel101 post=51411075]v[i]Time-wasting venture[/i]. The burden of proof rest not on Christians,the onus rather is on Atheists to prove SOMETHING came out of NOTHING, which they haven't been able to do convincingly[quote]you simply don't understand scientific culture. With science, knowledge is progressive (the reason for gradual civilization of the world). With religion, knowledge is completely complete (nothing can be added to it or taken from it). [quote author=DarkRebel101 post=51411075]Nothing puzzles me than human looking for the logical symmetry behind a phenomenon too complex for their little human brains[quote]There's nothing complex in God idea or religious idiocy. It's to the folks infested with religious ideas, that it's complex. I |
RadicallyBlunt:It's changing your perception of your Idol, just that you can't perceive it yet. |
ScienceWatch:. The more you know, the less ignorant you become. The more receptive you're to knowledge, the less gullible you become. The more rational you become by learning, the less religious beliefs makes sense to you. The more sound minded via learning you are, the less irrational fears has hold on your life ScienceWatch:. The scientific knowledge is for the purpose of understanding our universe and world, so that we can optimize its good and reduce its evil. But while at this task, we discovered that all the claims of religion, especially Bible, started falling like dominion. ScienceWatch:That's is the purpose of my writings. To cast doubts on what religious folks believed. By this, they will be compel to ask themselves fundamental questions, about what they have been holding on to, without examining its usefulness. The end result is demystification of God idea. ScienceWatch:I have established that time over here. ScienceWatch:The right question ought to have been, where had Jesus been, before the time he came to preach to them. The fact that Jesus didn't learn at their synagogue didn't mean, he couldn't had learned somewhere else. Jesus went to study philosophy, psychology and theology over the period of 13 years to 30 years (historical accounts of the life of Jesus, will educate you more on this). He returned with radical Judaism. Just like radical religious folks of today. At first it sounded cool to the Jews, who were disillusioned by Roman rule on them (because it was against the experience they had read in Torah). Because they tot Jesus will lead them in revolution against Roman government. But when Jews realized that Jesus was deluded and can't relate with rational behavior, they went after him. So that he wouldn't make their life under Roman government more difficult. ScienceWatch:Just like the radical doctrines of Boko Haram, both Muslims(civilised ones) and secular folks can't see any rational sense in what they were saying. Only the sect find meaning in the radical doctrines. Most of the esoteric gists by Jesus, were of the same text and concept, as any of the radical doctrines of extremists in the world. ScienceWatch:. When a man claims to be seeing what others can't see, hear what others can't hear and behaving and arrogating invincible ability to himself, there is just one name for the folk - chronic delusion. ScienceWatch:The usual claims of extremists. ScienceWatch:. In-group and out-group psychology. ScienceWatch:The more esoteric and conflicting the message, the easier it's to confuse the gullible. |
RadicallyBlunt:Sorry, you can't use this page to praise a man, that's out of touch with mental sanity. A man under the influence of traditional religious beliefs. A man misleading folks into grand acts of evil and wickedness against fellow humans. By falsely accusing them of witchcraft. A man contained of his deluded witch hunting charade in UK. |
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, Paul told him, “You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery” (Acts 13:10).