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KingEbukasBlog:
Hitler openly excoriated Christians and Christianity and launched pogroms against the Jews , isn't that impiety ?!



Hitler nearly annihilated Christianity in Germany using coercion and murder

Study the above, and tell me who you KNOW Hitler was.

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no difference between Hitler , the communist leaders and Nairaland Atheists

Here is someone who despite being cognizant of Hitler's racism and nefarious acts against humanity right on this thread overtly adulated him



Very sickening ! Who in his right frame of mind would say something so repugnant ? An atheist

PDBonline:
You need to read the Ops post again. You're beginning to sound like Dawkings.
In psychiatry, people's experiences are not used in isolation to define them as mentally ill.
May God help you face reality because, in my opinion, denying the existence of God and insisting so is the true delusion and living in denial.

KingEbukasBlog:
Let's discuss Hitler and his hatred for Christianity , shall we ?

RaphieMontella , LennyCool , Jonbellion , akintom , hopefullandlord , JackBizzle

PDBonline:
Ask Him to speak to you in a way you cannot disproof if you want to know whether or not He exists.
If you don't want to know He exists, that's all together a different matter of self-inflicted ignorance.

Seun deep down in ur mind u hav dat believe dat is truly God buh u seem to choose nt to believe....d question iz y....90% of all non believers in nigeria are raised as either a christian or muslim buh y are dey currently athiest d answer iz dz
u chose nt to believe because u havent seen d true wonders of my God
y havent u seen it?
Because the existence of God is strongly driven by faith dose wu hav faith in Him are d only ones dat hav seen iz true miracles some christians claim to hav heard im some dont.dose dat didnt hear Him are nt d true christians
wat iz my point? u dont believe in Him bcoz u hav once needed Him but u got no help from Him y?Because u needed Him but u didnt hav faith in Him.
I will once again say dz CHRISTIANITY IS DRIVEN BY FAITH ITSELF
JESUS WAS ABLE TO PERFORM MIRACLES NOT BECAUSE HE HAD THE POWER BUT BECAUSE HE HAD D FAITH
SEUNN BECAUSE U ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS NOW WITHOUT GOD DOES NOT MEAN HE DOESNT EXIST
PLZ GOOGLE D LIST OF WORLD RICHEST MEN AND U SHALL SEE DAT ALL OF DEM ARE NON BELIEVERS LIKE U.BUT Y ARE DEY ACHIEVIN GREATNESS?BECOZ D TRUE(TRUE)CHRISTIANS ARE DOZ WU GO TRUE CHALLENGES NOW BUT FACE ETHERNAL PEACE IN HEAVEN.
ALL NON BELIEVERS STILL FEAR GOD BECOZ DEY KNOW DEEP DOWN DAT HELL IS REAL!!!!!
EVEN D DEVIL HIMSELF SHALL BOW BEFORE GOD
ALL KNEES SHALL BOW BEFORE HIM!!!!
LIFE WAS NOT CREATED BY EVOLUTION
LIFE IS GOD!

PDBonline:
The assumption that the real God must look somehow has no basis. He is Spirit. That's all I can manage to say.

KingEbukasBlog:
God is simply an appellation of this creator .

KingEbukasBlog:
You can't be rational if you subscribe to something so illogical as atheism .


From Sir DeepSight :

PDBonline:
Why won't we be right to claim that atheism is a form of religion.

PDBonline:
Seun I HONESTLY believe God is real. In fact, I know He is my Father. I don't understand what you meant by "honestly believe" but I'll like you to discuss with me because , by dictionary definition, I have no doubt I do. Awaiting your response to my questions.

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro . I can't imagine how someone would claim to open minded and a critical thinker yet reject overwhelming evidence of the existence of the supernatural just to sustain his unbelief .




One word : delusion




Lmaooo

Damn ! Every single post , every single meme is so point . Fire on bro 8

KingEbukasBlog:
Humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a god.

Communists practiced this and caused over 250 million deaths involving mass murder , mass suicide , abuse of human rights etc .



All hail morality without God

Lmaooo

KingEbukasBlog:
Science admits the universe has a creator

KingEbukasBlog:
Communism is proof that atheism is inherently malevolent and violent .

naijadeyhia:
Then quit with your argument because Kingebukasblog is clearly on a higher level of reasoning than you are. He subcribes to the earthly as well as the divine while you subscribe to just the earthly yet you claim to be open minded and a critical thinker?

Lol he calls himself a "rational" atheist!


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KingEbukasBlog:
There is no such thing as rational atheists since atheism is illogical .

KingEbukasBlog:
Because he does not exist in this universe , the Supreme Being's immanence makes him a Personal God - I believe the Supreme Being is immanent .

KingEbukasBlog:
See bro , when I argue or discuss , I see the subject matter from different perspectives at the same time . Some see the spirit , the immaterial part of man , as being part of what makes man different from sub species and that spirits are constituents of nature and has nothing to do with the supernatural . So those that those see it that way go to Unitarian Universalism to help them grow spiritually .

KingEbukasBlog:
Actually Zeus can be referred to as a skydaddy , hopefully the earth's thermal radiation can smoke him out of his hiding .


Sorry for being pedantic , I've got fastidious eyes

KingEbukasBlog:
This is why you think the analogy is flawed . Its more of a preconception . Spirituality exists outside religion . In Unitarian Universalism , the irreligious such as the atheists and agnostics seek spiritual growth .

KingEbukasBlog:
You keep repeating the same questions over and over again .

KingEbukasBlog:
God is eternal - this precludes infinite regress . I understand that God is eternal and incorporeal . Please show me how I committed special pleading

naijadeyhia:
C. Fallacies of Presumption (Faulty Form)

1. False Dilemma (Either/Or): Dawkins presents a false option between two extremes. On the one hand he portrays science as the heroic, rational pursuit of facts. On the other hand he portrays religion as the hypocritical, irrational pursuit of faith. Some of his criticisms may apply to certain cults and false religions, but not to historic Christianity. Faith and facts are not opposites. There’s no necessary contradiction between the two. In fact, the Pulitzer-prize winning historian, Rodney Stark, has argued: ”not only that there is no inherent conflict between religion and science, but that Christian theology was essential for the rise of science". Dawkins argument is clearly distorted and false. For almost a millennium fides quaerens intellectum (“faith in search of understanding”) has been a Christian motto expressing the Christian motivation to seek the truth. It was Anselm’s dictum, echoing Augustine, about the positive relationship between faith and reason. All Biblically literate Christians know that they have been exhorted to use their minds to the best of their ability (Phil. 4: 8 ); to “be wise as serpents and innocent as doves” (Matt. 10:16); and to “always be prepared to make a defense to any one calls you to account for the hope that is in you” (1 Pet. 3:15). The oldest universities in the world, including Oxford, were founded by Christians who shared that conviction. Granted that Dawkins’ criticism may apply to some individuals or groups in the history of Christianity, but they have been the exception, not the rule.

Eminent historians and philosophers of science have acknowledged the unique formative role of Christianity in the origin of modern science. French-born American historian, teacher and cultural critic Jacques Barzun wrote that the ‘so-called warfare between science and religion [could] be seen as the warfare between two philosophies and perhaps two faiths, a dispute between the believers in consciousness and the believers in mechanical action; the believers in purpose and the believers in pure chance’”. Dinesh D’Souza points out in his recent study, What’s So Great About Christianity, modern science relies upon an “unsupported belief” both in the rationality of the universe and of our own minds. In a lecture at Harvard University in 1925 the eminent British philosopher, Alfred North Whitehead, asserted that “faith in the possibility of science… is an unconscious derivative of medieval theology”.

Herbert Schneidau, in his widely acclaimed study of mythical cultures, Sacred Discontent, concluded that the Biblical worldview led to the rise of science and technology. By “desacralizing” nature, the Bible sanctioned critical, objective investigation of the world and a linear concept of time. Loren Eiseley, the late distinguished professor of Anthropology and the History of Science at the University of Pennsylvania went so far as to suggest that science was an “invention” of Christianity: “it is the Christian world which finally gave birth in a clear, articulate fashion to the experimental method of science itself”. John Lennox, a Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Oxford, has pointed out to Dawkins (in formal debates) that the Natural History Museum (where they have debated) was originally “dedicated to God and the investigation of divine design” please see:

http://www.dawkinslennoxdebate.com/

2. Begging the Question (circular reasoning): Dawkins constantly assumes that which he purports to prove, namely, that a godless process of evolution is the cause of everything, including “apparent design.” For example, he asserts that: “Creative intelligences, being evolved, necessarily arrive late in the universe, and therefore cannot be responsible for designing it”. Although Dawkins claims that he will “show” the reader evidence for this belief, he fails to deliver. When the issue comes up again later, he simply repeats the assertion: “Entities that are complex enough to be intelligent are products of an evolutionary process” . Dawkins announces his “commitment to naturalism. He explains that: “An atheist in this sense of philosophical naturalist is somebody who believes there is nothing beyond the natural, physical world, no supernatural creative intelligence lurking behind the observable universe”. He seems unaware that he is making the same kind of unsupported faith commitment which he otherwise finds so inimical. In other words, Dawkins’ foundation is not facts or evidence, but a reductionistic faith in materialism. Naturalism assumes that nothing exists besides matter and energy. The end result of naturalism is self-contradiction. If our thoughts are nothing more than a random, bio-chemical process, then we have no basis to believe that our thoughts are true. They are equivalent to the secretions of our kidneys and other physical organs. In Darwin’s (and Dawkins’) world, our thoughts need not be “true,” only “useful”. But there’s no way to know which ideas are most useful at any given time. Only later will it be revealed which ideas “survive.” People are reduced to random metabolic units which receive and emit random sensory input. Although others might find this view dismal and dehumanizing, Dawkins claims to find it “liberating” and “emancipating".

When Dawkins is so transparent about his dislike for God, he opens himself to the charge of ‘theophobia,’ that is, a fear of (or revulsion against) God. C. S. Lewis identified this phenomenon and applied it to Sigmund Freud. As a result, Dr. Armand Nicholi, a professor at Harvard University has taught a course comparing the ideas of Freud and Lewis. In 2002 he published his findings in a book entitled: The Question of God:. Lewis agreed with Freud on one basic thing, that human beings have a tendency to "suppress" unpleasant truths." However, Lewis disagreed with Freud regarding which truths we find most unpleasant, and which truths we try hardest to suppress. Like Dawkins, Freud asserted that we are most afraid of "being alone" (i.e. without God) and of "being unloved" (i.e. without God's love). Lewis disagreed. Lewis said that when he became a Christian he reaIized that for many years his greatest fear had been "not being alone" (i.e. not being free to do whatever he wanted) and afraid of "being judged" (i.e. accountable to God). Similarly, whereas Freud argued that we "project" our "wishes" for moral order and life after death by "creating" (an imaginary) heaven, Lewis argued that we "project" our "wishes" for personal freedom and supremacy by "creating" (an imaginary) kingdom of our own.



3. Post hoc ergo propter hoc (false cause): This fallacy makes the unjustified assumption that when one thing precedes another, the first must cause the second. Dawkins adds a peculiar twist to this fallacy by arguing that the ‘simple’ must always precede the ‘complex.’ He insists that in the history of the universe simple processes must always have preceded (and produced) more complex systems. On the one hand, as mentioned earlier, Dawkins asserts the creative power of (simple) naturalistic evolution: “Entities that are complex enough to be intelligent are products of an evolutionary process“. On the other hand, Dawkins denies the admissibility of (complex) divine creative agency: “Any entity capable of intelligently designing something as improbable as a … universe would have to be even more improbable than [a universe]”.

The renowned philosopher, Anthony Flew, has called Dawkins’ argument “bizarre.” Dawkins offers no evidence in support of these assertions other than his admitted preference for any viewpoint which precludes divine activity. The logic of Dawkins’ argument (‘simple-always-precedes-complex’) is disproved by all human artistry and engineering as well as all forms of biological reproduction. The artist always precedes the work of art; the chicken always comes before the egg. If Dawkins’ logic was valid, then any human agency capable of designing something as improbable as a watch, a cathedral, or a spaceship would have to be considered “improbable.” There’s obviously something wrong with that. It is an accepted practice in logic to “infer to the most sufficient explanation.” In the debate about human origins, a strong argument can be made that only divine agency can account for human life and reason. By refusing to consider the possibility of divine creativity and causation, Dawkins ends up by threatening human creativity and causation as well.

Can a man be any more Fallacious than this?


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naijadeyhia:
Then this thread isnt for you! Kindly open a thread that addresses your crowd of irrational atheists. Clearly since you know they exist you must see yourself as some kind of authority on atheism so pls exit this thread because its filled with rational and sound minded theists. Thank you for your time

naijadeyhia:
It already did. Your presence is proof that it did. Besides the presence of your ilk trying to shoot it down shows it indeed is flying way high up in the sky. Goodluck with your Javeline Missile.

naijadeyhia:
Taaa Mr 6am Anti God high priest. If you have nothing tangible to say kindly go and play with a dolly or something. This thread has an 18+ rating.

naijadeyhia:
Sorry to disappoint but i never even looked at conservapedia and this research is fact. Like i said if any of you would post a contrary research then do so instead of simply complaining. If you have none then pls walk away because your comments without facts are merely a distraction. Get yourself busy by watching the video and see the utter ridiculousness of Atheists then come back with your facts.

KingEbukasBlog:
@ naijadeyhia

Superb article

Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .

China as an atheist state is intolerant of religious beliefs and practices , totally verboten but Christians keep proliferating and it is projected to become the world's most Christian nation :

The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .

Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .

KingEbukasBlog:
@ naijadeyhia

Superb article

Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .

China as an atheist state is intolerant of religious beliefs and practices , totally verboten but Christians keep proliferating and it is projected to become the world's most Christian nation :

The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .

Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .

KingEbukasBlog:
@ naijadeyhia

Superb article

Atheism also has a lower retention rate compared to other worldviews . Researches have revealed that atheism is nothing but a transitive state for many individuals . In the US , only 30 percent of those who grew up in an atheist household remain atheists .

China as an atheist state is intolerant of religious beliefs and practices , totally verboten but Christians keep proliferating and it is projected to become the world's most Christian nation :

The Soviet Union was a communist state and after it collapsed , the population of atheists in those countries that made up the Soviet Union plummeted , its currently insignificant .

Researches also revealed that most atheists can't say with certitude that God does not exist . Even Richard Dawkins said : I can't be sure God does not exist . So I ask this ornery man , if you can't say with certitude God does not exist , why launch polemics on those who acknowledge the existence of God ? Same goes to every atheist on this forum . Most of them are in their youth , like I noted , atheism is a transitive state in their lives, when they get older they'll surely go back to God or subscribe to other worldviews ( facts buttressed this claim ) .