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naijadeyhia:
By 2025 there will be over 6,000,000 fewer atheist world-wide, that’s a loss of about 1,700 atheist a day over the next ten years according to a report on the status of Global Missions in 2014 by Gordon Conwell Theological Seminar.

I began researching this trend recently after watching this video from Zach Anner about Sunday Assembly, which is basically a secular/atheistic attempt at doing church!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJ8GZIjwCo

More Atheist Want to Practice Religion

Zach’s video on Sunday assembly reveals a surprising aspect in atheism and secularism. It’s obvious that our atheistic friends want something more. They long for the relational element that most religions offer. Ironically they are trying to become more like their friends who believe in God but do it in a way that doesn’t require God.

These kinds of attempts to bring morality and religiousness into atheism are not new. All you have to do is study the history of the former Soviet Union and you will see how they tried to replace God with Lenin. You’ll also find that they tried to replace the Bible with the Communist Manifesto and other writings of Marx and Engels.

What we do know is that these attempts to make atheism religious never last, just like atheistic communism didn’t last!

Low birthrate

Atheism and it’s secular worldviews lack any real motivation for procreation and thus tend to have very low birth rates. Some ideas which atheists promote lend to this lowered birthrate such as: sterilization

Atheist are known for promoting programs that encourage voluntary and sometimes even compulsory sterilization.

Emphasis on education and career

They also emphasize science, education and careers as a very high value for the individual. These values tend to put off childbearing until much later in life unlike the view of Religion that advocates for a balance.

Abortion

Ironically abortion is an issue that many atheist have spent much of their life trying to promote but in the end it’s the millions of abortions that will kill off the atheist population!

Historic Atheistic Countries Changing

Our world is changing and many countries that used to be bulwarks of atheism have completely changed their allegiances. The most notable of these is the former Soviet countries.

It’s astonishing to realize that a country, where just 30 years ago you could be shipped off to the gulag for practicing your religion, now has a president who unashamedly talks about his faith and often is seen interacting with church leaders. Yes, I’m talking about Vladimir Putin, who not only claims to be a Christian but has taken a strong stand against issues like homosexuality.

Another country to consider is China which is considered to be an atheistic country, yet Christianity is booming there! Some even say that within 15 years China will be the worlds largest Christian nation!

Growth of Major Religions

We know that atheist aren’t reproducing physically but atheistic evangelists aren’t doing much for their cause either. According to the study by Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary all major religions are experiencing major growth.

The strongest per year growth is in Christianity 1.29%, Hinduism 1.38% and Islam 1.81%. This is opposed to a .03% annual growth of atheism and it appears that number is falling.

Survival of the Fittest

Ironically this is a question of survival of the fittest. As it turns out atheism isn’t the fittest for human survival and flourishing. Maybe that’s because God made man as a worshiper and gave him certain laws to live by. Turns out that societies who try to stick to at least a few basic Biblical principles do better and last longer!

Evangelism Is Changing

The death of atheism doesn’t mean that the church’s task in evangelism just got easier. What it means is it’s changing!

The Christian’s job is to communicate the gospel and in order to do that effectively we need to be aware of the major cultural beliefs around us. Much depends on where you live and what crowds you mingle with but I’m guessing you are coming up against atheism less and less.

Science, Theology and Philosophy Assasins

The truth of the matter is that Science, Theology and Philosophy are killing atheism. An investigation regarding the social phenomenon called atheism found that:

"Atheists have appealed to science in defence of their atheism since the first avowedly atheistic manuscripts of the mid seventeenth century. However, as the German expert on atheism Winfried Schroeder has shown, the relationship between early modern atheism and science tended to embarrass rather than strengthen the fledgling atheism's case." - "Atheism and Science" Investigating Atheism project - Cambridge and Oxford.

Likes Attract

Atheism only attracts those who are attracted to bad behavior. Some psychologists call this the "Misfit syndrome." Remember in elementary school; there was always that kid that had to be naughty for some reason? He or she had to always get attention? Remember that he/she found pleasure in bullying, asking the teacher stupid questions or making smart remarks?

Well, this is the typical atheist of today who can be found online and in these "Reason Rallies." They are adults with this kind of naughty child's mentality. They feel that mockery and abuse are the means to spread "reasons." This horrific understanding of reason and persistence in using uncivil means to argue is one of the reasons why atheism is dying out. Since atheists lack "reason" to support their claims, then they must rely on aggression in order to get attention.

Atheism is dying and is on life support which would soon be unplugged and frankly it would not be missed.

On all the premises that describes a research design, for a PROSPECTIVE STUDY, this compilation of pseudo and inferior reasoning above, failed abysmally.

When you marooned your mentality into the fool's paradise of religious debauchery, you can't but gloat on melting ice, on shark infested water.

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Biography of God..... Contd(2)

........during most of the group discussions of the belief city, they usually result to hot arguments, quarrel, assault and murder. All these problems resulted from, conflictions and contradictions that characterized the narrations of what each folk heard or experienced, while on the visit to God, at Assumption Province.

These katakata soon lead to fractionalization and factionalization of the discussion groups. Each folk that lead the break away, automatically became the leader of such group.

And overtime, these leaders, in an attempt to reduce intra and inter groups wrangling, they agreed to inform the members of their groups, to allow only the leaders, to be visiting God, and come to relate to them, the outcome of such visits.

This arrangement did work, but this is to the extent that a rebel didn't go against the arrangement. But whenever a rebel goes to see God, such rebel most often than not, will lead another breakaway group.

This is how so many groups emerged, from visit to God at Assumption Province.

After some years, there emerged a group, lead by a man named Messy (A.K.A Burning bush). Messy came back from visit to God one day, and during his narration of his experience, he told his group, that God spoke through a burning bush, as against what was the usual channels. Via the burning bush, God has told him how the whole world, including human beings were formed......

To be continued

God (aka idea), was given birth to some thousands years ago, in the city of Belief. Its father's name was Primitive and its mother's name was Ignorance.

After some years, its father died, and its mother was willed to ModernMan (who suffers chronic delusion). For the obvious reasons, Ignorance, is still married to ModernMan.

Its birth was heralded by difficulty, the people of belief city had, in understanding the reason behind most natural phenomena.

When God was born, it had all the features of human being. But, there was a strange thing about God. None of its structures functioned. But whenever any human touches or move close to it, it will suddenly begin to function physiologically. But when it's left alone, it became dead.

It was such a monstrous being, such that, the more the number of people that touch it, the stronger is its functional ability. Because of this strange nature, the parents of God, hid it in Assumption province, of Belief city.

Out of curiosity, and tales about God, the people of belief city, will always go to Assumption province to check it out. Some made it a regular and devoted visit, while some made it a rare one.

Visits to Assumption province is such an emotional, ecstatic, sensational and illusionary experience. This is because, the moment they get close to God and touch it, God will immediately take over their body, and start thinking, seeing, hearing, breathing, and talking through the bodies of the visitors. But the moment they leave its presence, they regain their functions back.

But one amazing aspect is that, whatever the experience was with God, the visitor will still be able to relate it, even after they have regained the full control of their body. These experiences formed subject of discussion during the various groups meetings, of the people in Belief city..........

To be continued

KingEbukasBlog:
Its actually common sense , what apparently you are bereft of

To engage a scientific mind, with your "common sense" mind, is definitely the deepest depth of the deluded mind that you have.

I certainly loath this your variant of "common sense".

Have you taken time to examine, the level of normal functionality of your mind?

Because, now that you claim that your "common sense", is propounding theories that now make God existence known and knowable.

I suspect that your case, needs the input of Psychiatrist.

KingEbukasBlog:
Non Sequitur



Nature has a cause and a beginning . Nature is of our physical reality and since it has a cause and a beginning , then it owes its existence to a transcendent reality- a reality greater or superior to it - and the transcendent being of this transcendent reality orchestrated the design and complexity of Nature .

All of these your perforated gist, apply in the field of theology, philosophy and some mysticism.

Certainly not in scientific society. Therefore it's useless, to rational mind.

KingEbukasBlog:
You actually agree with me that agnostic atheism is illogical (appeal to ignorance ) - your belief that God does not exist because of lack of contrary evidence .

Let me call someone an agnostic atheist who'd likely understand me

cc : CoolUsername

You're just as ignorant as the author of the nonsense you called "appeal to ignorance".

I simply don't believe in non existing thing (presented to me by a man, who can't empirically prove its real existence) , simply because the thing is unknown and unknowable.

You, being a "gnostic theist", claimed you know it exist and you have evidence.

Now i call on you to present the thing you know. What do you do? You started talking about a drunk and deluded mind Anecdotes.

That's the meaning of ignorance and idiocy.

KingEbukasBlog:
okay



You claimed that the God idea is a lie



Then I asked you to prove it



I said anecdotal evidence can be used as proof for a personal God . And I also told you that anecdotal evidences are empirical and verifiable . I also gave links to well documented anecdotal evidences for acts of levitation of Catholic Priests and the magic works of Simon Magus , the popular magician in the acts of the Apostles - popular historian Josephus mentioned him too .

Yes, anecdotal evidences, can be empirical and verifiable, ONLY when such Anecdotes are real and NOT fictitious or streaming from deluded mind.

When a mad man relates an Anecdotes, that relates to how God told him things and all sorts, will that also pass as anecdotal evidence for your personal God existence?


Certainly not anecdotal evidences, about a God (personal God inclusive), whose existence can't be established, with empirical evidence mode.

KingEbukasBlog:
I did not respond because I had earlier said that proof of God's existence exists in Nature - its cause , its complexity etc . You missed that and ended up posting a periphrastic response .

Agnostic atheism is illogical . Its basically saying God does not exist because of lack of contrary evidence - appeal to ignorance fallacy .

Agnostic atheist definition : Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact. .

Please just say that you are an atheist and everyone go happy

I don't delude myself, like most theists do. I understand the comprehensive meaning of agnostic atheism.

If by any chance, the means to know God materially, become knowable, i wouldn't delude myself to reject him as real, to the extent that empirical evidence mode, projected him.

But as it stands now, whatever is unknown and unknowable, remains inexistent, including God.

KingEbukasBlog:
I did not respond because I had earlier said that proof of God's existence exists in Nature - its cause , its complexity etc . You missed that and ended up posting a periphrastic response .

Agnostic atheism is illogical . Its basically saying God does not exist because of lack of contrary evidence - appeal to ignorance fallacy .

Agnostic atheist definition : Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact. .

Please just say that you are an atheist and everyone go happy

I could as well say that proof of Spiderman existence exist in manuscript and cinema.

Empirically speaking, as against your Bible fictional stories and Anecdotes, how does nature or whatever you claim, present your God to me as "real, perceptible or material" being.

KingEbukasBlog:
Balderdash

Anyone can say God exists through a posteriori evidence(knowledge) - a creator designed me and bestowed me with intelligence and my creator has to be eternal or else it would progress into infinite regression .



If you claim that God is a lie , then it behoves you to prove that assertion . Please peruse this thread and see my responses to your ilks to avoid unnecessary repetitions .

Your difficulty is compounded, seriously!

Your difficulty is tied to lack of basic understanding and comprehension of grammar. And your alienic disposition to scientific culture and orientation.

Lie - statement that is false and untrue.

You said God exist, and that you know he exist.

I then asked you to show me

You presented Anecdotes

I found your Anecdotes to be lies (untrue and false), after i subjected such Anecdotes to empirical evidence mode.

I hope you now understand.

You're just a waste of time, seriously. I could do all the above, with a sentence, using advanced expression, but am sure, you will be twisted.

KingEbukasBlog:
Balderdash

Anyone can say God exists through a posteriori evidence - a creator designed me and bestowed me with intelligence and my creator has to be eternal or else it would progress into infinite regression .



If you claim that God is a lie , then it behoves you to prove that assertion . Please peruse this thread and see my responses to your ilks to avoid unnecessary repetitions .

For the purpose of clarity. I am agnostic atheist, meaning - i don't believe any God(s) exist, and I don't CLAIM to KNOW that God don't exist.

So, i bear no burden of prove of God existence.

You claim to be gnostic theist, meaning - you believe God exist, and you CLAIMED to KNOW God exist.

Since you know God exist, the burden of prove is on you.

I have read all your "Anecdotal evidences" as proves of the existence of your God.

But on my thread, titled "Anecdotal evidence of God's existence", you defined empirical evidence mischievously, but i gave you the complete definition, and i required of you to justify, if your prove of your God existence, met the criteria of empirical evidence. You fizzled away and never responded.

PastorAIO:
You are like a wounded animal in a corner. You perceive everything as a threat.

What makes you think that I'm trying to refute you.

If you are worried about whether the story is true or fictitious all you have to do is Gugu Oxana Malaya.


Here is more info on Feral children if you care to do any research.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cymZq1VblU0

You're entitled to your opinion. I simply told you to talk. I don't care about your videos. At least not on this.

PastorAIO:
Such speculations may be settled asking feral children when they learn to speak.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR-cWZ4CChI

You will do better, if you can intelligently refute my assertion.

I don't waste my precious time on fictitious clips.

Niflheim:
Catholic priests levitating is evidence of god? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Someone saw them levitating? No pictures? No video evidence?!!! Just the same old empty and worthless words that someone saw it?!!!

Chai!!! These guys have run out of ideas!!! Uptil now no evidence except "men of god wey dey float like balloon"!!!

Theists on this platform are now bunch of deflated wheels.

KingEbukasBlog:
We are all born atheists .

Atheists say there is no God , are babies saying there is no God

Raise a child in an immediate and remote environment, devoid of God idea. The God idea will not exist.

Adult atheism is simply a rejection of God lies and manipulation.

modusOperandi2:
Friedrich Nietzsche

What are your thoughts on these famous quote of Nietzsche?

Every man is born atheist. The burden of life responsibilities is a personal one.

You can choose to simply believe the dominant beliefs or build your life on personally verified knowledge, so you could understand life and be convinced of your choices and its consequences.

felixomor:
A couple of your fellow lonely apes who parade multiple fake monikers is what u call "tourists"?

Abeg, lets hear word.

Oh oh oh........ Let me speak the language you will understand wella....

Doh, the matter pain you well well..... No cry... My pikin.

felixomor:
Abeg keep quiet, deluded one.

See what your loneliness is bringing upon u?

1. The only person(s) who calls rational folk deluded, is a clinical case of deluded folk (felixomor).

2. The person(s) who suspect loneliness, without expert diagnostic knowledge is a quack/herbalist (felixomor).

jonbellion:
Lol promise10 is a r*tard
The guy was showing criss angel illusions as magic
From that alone I just saw the dude wasn't worth my time
When thiests and atheists are trying to have sensible discussions the dude just comes and starts ranting like a rabid bonobo that is being raped by a mule
He's probably a prepubescent teenage girl
Don't bother with his comments
Let him roll in his feaces

Hahahahaha....... Lol

You know, i had earlier classified Promise10 and felixomor, as a class of "ignored species", just that they keep falling off the museum shelf, whenever tourists are on my page.

DoctorAlien:
That Person about Whom you always have sleepless nights, and stay awake by 2 am just to hate on Nairaland.

Why must you always, and deliberately, ridicule yourself and religion, unabashed?

I simply asked you - since you DoctorAlien, now know for FACT, that SOMETHING, that created the universe, can you please explain to me, the FACT of the SOMETHING.

All that your best could present, is to descend into buffoonery.

My conclusion on you and most of your likes (felixomor, Promise10, naijadeyhia, kingebukasblog etc) on NL, is that you all, are folks who just BELIEVED a BELIEF, without a personal KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING or CONVICTION.

A simple task of asking you to presenting your gaseous God intelligently, has always set your mental alignment in tangles.

All you know best to do, on this platform, is get into the rathole copy and paste, of pseudoscientific nonsense from creationist sites.

If you can't understand all scientific theories, that concerns the probable origin of life, as put forward by the scientists in that field of knowledge, how else shall i help your difficulty?

I am not like you, who claim to know EVERYTHING, except ONE rational thing.

DoctorAlien:
I don't know why you think you're the only one who has a knowledge of science. Anyway, the delusion is common to "atheists".

For the fact that the universe did not create itself, Something created it.

Good night.

Now that you know for FACT, that SOMETHING created the universe, can you now tell me the SOMETHING please?

GoodMuyis:
Your Submission show that, you have not gone far in medical, OR not seen much
If am not right about the above then your sincerity is questionable.

Years Ago in 1996, my uncles wife was in labour room struggling for more than 16 hours in a Popular Hospital at Ilorin, attended to by a popular Doctor, yet she could not deliver the baby.

Then the doctor recommended Operation, only waiting for the husband to come and sign few docs.

THE MIRACLE
My mother who was just came around, who is not even a nurse, when she heard about the operation, went inside the labour room, she held the hand of the lady, and pray not up to a minute, she start groaning, here come the crow, later attended to by Nurses and she delivered safely w/o operation.
What Qualified Doctor could not do for hours, was done in few seconds of prayer. Even Doctor is not happy with my mom but who cares.

I would have tell other testimonial s, i have heard but you will question it authenticity, but this one happen to us by PRAYER.


Back to the question, you are yet to answer the last set of my questions before, going into details

Your anecdotal evidence of prayer answering God, proves nothing. There are billions of such tales.

Such tales have also lead to needless deaths of pregnant women and their babies. It has caused avoidable cerebral palsy, with its life long complications.

Disproving God claims by atheistic views and approach, thereby helping humanity to live a better life, is what atheism offers humanity.

You can organize prayer for IBB, if he receives healing, at least your God will be given the glory.

WORLDPEACE:
You don't need to conspire to groupthink. Sometimes supressing your own views to be acceptable in the group can lead to groupthink. The mere conclusion that because someone is an authority in the group and smarter than the rest can lead to groupthink. It is in all facet of life.

This your insinuations doesn't apply in scientific society. If you have a reference case, you will do well to present it here.

GoodMuyis:
In Case you are unaware of what you wrote



The Blue is your Job description, which I care less at least for now

The Red staired up is a Question.
IBB is so sickly and had employed World class physicians why is still sick,
He so rich and couldn't have live a non-hygenic life, why did e fall sick
Am asking the above if you have answer for that

NOTE: am not saying all sickness are caused spiritually as you have claimed am more intelligent than that

Medical Science has diagnosed countless diseases that religious folks ascribed to demonic attacks, as simply pathophysiological case.

Not only did medical science gave a rational basis for diseases, they equally provided curative and effective management modalities, in a cheap and affordable packages.

You don't understand the "religious fundamental beliefs and claims". It's erroneously and ignorantly claimed that there was no incidents of diseases, until Adam and eve, sinned against God.

Therefore, ALL diseases are caused by evil Spirits (haven't you read in your Bible where spirit of fever, epilepsy etc were mentioned?). And diseases will ONLY be cured by prayer of faith.

But prayer, has not cure anything, not even a common malaria fever.

Your view on this doesn't matter, in as much you subscribe to Christian religion.

WORLDPEACE:
* Science is not shielded from criticism------But scientists can shield it

* science doesn't frown at or get irritated when it's challenged Scientists can get irritated when their theories are challenged

* when scientific fact is falsified, the fact is replaced with the newest fact Not if a scientist or group of scientists have reasons want to keep it that way

* science encourages critical thinking, rational enquiry Have you or someone you know challenged your professor in class before? What was the outcome?


I am not talking to you about God.

You're obviously threading on the path of those conspiracy theories nonsense.

Do you really know anything about academy of science or scientific journals and works.

Certainly, you are operating from the realm of spiritual jesters.

Following the uproar which greeted his unfulfilled prophesy that Former Democrat candidate, Hillary Clinton will beat Republican candidate, Donald Trump, in the just concluded US Presidential election,

General Overseer, The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN), Prophet TB Joshua, Sunday, chided his critics, saying “Our levels are different. We are not on the same level.” T.B Joshua Prophet Joshua, who made this remark during a service at the headquarters of his church in Ikotun, Lagos on Sunday, said:

“We have seen the outcome of the election in America. Having read, you will notice that it is all about the popular vote, the vote of the majority of Americans. “In this case, we need the Spirit of a Prophet to recognize or to know a Prophet.

Our levels are different. We are not on the same level. “We might have great cathedrals, huge bells, and all kinds of activities that are good by human standards but human point of view is limited. “1 Corinthians 1:25.

The foolishness of God is wiser than that of men and the weakness of God is stronger than that of men. There is no shortcut to spiritual maturity unless earthly understanding gives way to spiritual enlightenment. “I see many people trying to interpret prophets on the basis of their own minds and ideas.

The prophecy seems to cause uproar, to many who gave it different meaning and interpretation. “Finally, campaigns and elections in any democratic country in the world are never about one person, it is about the country we care and love. Whichever way it happens, we must accept the outcome and then look to the future (God), the Author and Finisher.

“Democracy is all about accommodation. All democrats must value the process of democracy more than the product. “God bless the United States of America.”

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/11/us-election-prediction-we-arent-on-the-same-level-spiritually-tb-joshua-chides-critics/

KingEbukasBlog:
Woah ! Shiit man , dope line

See ? You should be in a studio spitting these lines not a forum arguing ingorantly

I don't see myself involved in argument with your type.

I am just shocking your perforated cognitive encasement.

WORLDPEACE:
I totally agree with you. Scientists can be guilty of GROUPTHINK - a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

You and KingEbukasBlog are simply alien to scientific ethics, culture, discipline and Academy.

In-group/out-group phenomenon doesn't apply in scientific society. It's simply a psychological representation, of the fractionalization basis of religion ideologies.

This science:

* Science is not shielded from criticism

* science doesn't frown at or get irritated when it's challenged

* when scientific fact is falsified, the fact is replaced with the newest fact

* science encourages critical thinking, rational enquiry

* science is built on empirical evidence etc

All of the above doesn't apply to religion/God idea.

Kalatium:
I agree with you

Now that you have "Scientifically" debunked this theory, what theory do you now present as its replacement?

KingEbukasBlog:
I think most times he does not even know what the thread is about , he just jumps in and starts his quotidian rancorous harangue against God and religion. I hope he is okay .

You're just blinking in the thick darkness. You might suffer a ruptured cornea.

KingEbukasBlog:
Empirical Evidence Definition : Empirical evidence, also known as sense experience, is the knowledge or source of knowledge acquired by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría).

The empirical evidence for God exists in nature through careful examination , observation of the design and complexity of nature , its cause and functionalities of its constituents etc . So intellectually , its more of deduction that a creator is responsible for/orchestrated the existence , complexity and functionality of nature .

Intellectually/Logically , since the universe has a cause and a beginning , it must have a creator . The universe owes its cause of existence to its creator , God is simply the appellation of this Creator who exits in a transcendent reality which is immaterial and causeless - existing eternally.

EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE

Empirical evidence is information that justifies a belief in the truth or falsity of a claim. In the empiricist view, one can claim to have knowledge only when one has a true belief based on empirical evidence.

This stands in contrast to the rationalist view under which reason or reflection alone is considered evidence for the truth or falsity of some propositions.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. This data is recorded and analyzed by scientists.

This is the primary source of empirical evidence. Secondary sources describe, discuss, interpret, comment upon, analyze, evaluate, summarize, and process primary sources. Secondary source materials can be articles in newspapers or popular magazines, book or movie reviews, or articles found in scholarly journals that discuss or evaluate someone else's original research.

Empirical evidence may be synonymous with the outcome of an experiment. In this regard, an empirical result is a unified confirmation.

In this context, the term semi-empirical is used for qualifying theoretical methods that use, in part, basic
axioms or postulated scientific laws and experimental results. Such methods are opposed to theoretical ab initio methods, which are purely deductive and based on first principles .

In science, empirical evidence is required for a hypothesis to gain acceptance in the scientific community.

Normally, this validation is achieved by the scientific method of hypothesis commitment, experimental design, peer review, adversarial review, reproduction of results , conference presentation, and journal publication .

This requires rigorous communication of hypothesis (usually expressed in mathematics), experimental constraints and controls (expressed necessarily in terms of standard experimental apparatus), and a common understanding of measurement.


Do you still claim that your prove of God existence, has gone through this process?