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newmi:
It is that what could be sin to one could actually righteousness for another, is it possible that two christians or persons make the same mistake one is purnished with the blessed.

What was the difference between Abraham and Lot's wife?

Is this the yeast that passes for Bible teaching in CE? Is that what you glean from the story of Sodom & Gomorrah? That sin in one is righteousness in another? That righteousness is only relative to circumstance? That explains alot about why you lot refuse to return stolen money.

. . .which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Answer these questions:
Was Abraham living in Sodom? Was Abraham fleeing from Sodom? Did Abraham disobey a command?

KJV: Genesis Chapter 19
[17] And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
KJV: Genesis Chapter 19
[26] But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

The tale of Sodom and Gomorrah is a type of the coming judgement upon the world. . .

KJV: II Peter Chapter 2
[6] And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

. . .it speaks to us of the refuge in Jesus. . .look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain,
Jesus is the Mountain to which we flee, not looking behind at the world (of which Sodom & Gomorrah are representative). The sad thing is that Christ Embassy is making a lot of people like Lot's wife; supposedly Christians, supposedly meant to be rescued from the fire of Sodom, but unfortunately kept looking back at Sodom and Gomorrah by the materialistic, self-centered "prosperity" false gospel of Chris Oyakhilome.

You have been warned already:
KJV: Luke Chapter 17
[32] Remember Lot's wife.

It would be quite educative for you read the whole of 2 Peter 2; it describes clearly Christ Embassy.

KJV: II Peter Chapter 2
[18] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
[19] While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

Pastor AIO:
What's the frustration? Couldn't you follow the argument?

^He couldn't. Hasn't been able to from the get go.
For some reason, they just don't seem to get it. . .blame it on the Atmosphere of Moral Turpitude that is Christ Embassy. The facts are clearly documented but they hope that by adopting Adolf Hitler's strategy ("“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”"); they hope to convince us otherwise. Or perhaps it's their own version of a Jedi mind trick, seeing as their notion of faith is somewhat akin to Star Wars mythology concerning The Force.

. . .see the crooks lining up, behind a fake lawyer.

Barr rich:
Section 427 of the Criminal Code thus makes receiving anything which has been obtained through the commission of crime also a crime. It is immaterial that the property was not obtained through such a crime in Nigeria. This offence is itself geared towards discouraging stealing and protection of property. Under the Penal Code receiving stolen property is covered by section 316.

Aletheia,


The important elements here are that, you must have ‘received’ the property in question and also have ‘knowledge’ of the fact that the property so received was stolen.

By your own words highlighted in red above, you reinforce what I said and further indict Chris Oyakhilome as a felon. I find it outstanding that a supposed "lawyer" like you; a "good Christian lawyer" according to your comrade in thievery - Joagbaje - does not understand the words you yourself wrote above. How do you argue your clients' cases in court? Please recall these words in post #130 of this thread:

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The prophets of Mammon and disciples of Balaam are at it again. . .trying to pull the wool over our eyes. [size=14pt]Chris Oyakhilome is a thief according to the Laws of Nigeria[/size]:

Section 427 of the Criminal Code thus makes receiving anything which has been obtained through the commission of crime also a crime. It is immaterial that the property was not obtained through such a crime in Nigeria. This offence is itself geared towards discouraging stealing and protection of property. Under the Penal Code receiving stolen property is covered by section 316.

The important elements here are that, you must have ‘received’ the property in question and also have ‘knowledge’ of the fact that the property so received was stolen. To constitute ‘receiving’, it is sufficient if you are in actual (physical) possession of the stolen property or if it can be deemed that you are in possession (by virtue of the fact that the stolen property is in possession of someone over whom you have control or authority), either alone or in conjunction with others, or if you have aided the disposal or concealment of such property. See R v. Osakwe [1963] All N.L.R. 362.

In the same vein, knowledge that the property is stolen is required before you can be guilty of the offence. You will however be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen, for example where the property in question is sold at a ridiculously low price. See R. v. Braimah (1943) W.A.C.A. 197.

The general condition of the property may also indicate that the accused ought to have suspected that the property was stolen e.g. where the name written on it or
other marks of the owner has been defaced or altered.

How do I know that Chris Oyakhilome is a thief;
1) The goods in question were stolen and he took possession of them:

Lawrence Agada, general cashier of Sheraton Hotels and Towers, Ikeja, will not forget January 12, in a hurry. On that fateful day, Chris Oyakhilome, pastor of Christ Embassy Church , Oregun, prophesied in a letter to him that God would do mighty things in his life. “He will cause you to excel and lift you up so high that the world can’t but take notice of you, in Jesus name. Amen.” Agada attracted the prophecy for sowing a seed of a 250 KVA generator valued at N4.4 million to the headquarters of Christ Embassy.

2) The claims that he did not know that the goods in question were stolen falls flat, because it is clearly established that this was brought to his attention:

In Agada’s letter to Oyakhilome made available to Newswatch, he informed the pastor formally that he removed funds belonging to Sheraton Hotel to the tune of N39 million. He said he used the money for “various projects and seeding and blessing of brethren in the church without due authorisation from my organisation.”

Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

3) Even the pastor of the Ifako branch was willing to do the right thing but for. . .

Imonivwerha said soon after the confession of Agada, officials of Sheraton Hotel took a tour of the respective churches to verify his claims. He said the team, which included Agada himself, sighted the big generator and chairs at the headquarters of Christ Embassy. According to him, Christine Davidson-Ekeh, head of mission at Christ Embassy, admitted that Agada acquired both the generator and the chairs for the church.

“At the Ifako church we also sighted, and confirmed from the presiding pastor, Mrs. Sholesi, the respective gifts made to the church by Mr. Agada. She, in fact, confirmed that he was her ‘right hand man’ and volunteered further, her willingness to return the money if she had the means to do so,” said Imonivwerha. He said, however, that Sholesi and Davidson-Ekeh indicated their inability to take any further action on the matter but advised the hotel and Agada to write to Oyakhilome.

So I maintain that not only is Chris Oyakhilome a thief but he is a modern Pharisee who so loves money

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As seen above the ruling in R v. Osakwe [1963] All N.L.R. 362, which sets a precedent declares that: "it can be deemed that you are in possession (by virtue of the fact that the stolen property is in possession of someone over whom you have control or authority", so even if Chris Oyaks did not directly receive the stolen property, he is culpable. . .but the facts do show that he did take possession of the stolen goods:

[size=14pt]Chris Oyakhilome[/size], pastor of Christ Embassy Church , Oregun, prophesied in a letter to him that God would do mighty things in his life. “He will cause you to excel and lift you up so high that the world can’t but take notice of you, in Jesus name. Amen.” Agada attracted the prophecy for sowing a seed of a 250 KVA generator valued at N4.4 million to [size=14pt]the headquarters of Christ Embassy.[/size]

Barr rich:
According to you:

Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

I have told you before that according to the Bible our riches are not supplied by the job we do, but by Christ Jesus.
What do you mean by a genuine pastor?
I can tell you that a genuine pastor is the Pastor that believes in miracles for his members not the one that will tell his members during offering time to line up with their offerings and begin to question the source of their income. Thank you.

^
All of una be thief. Which kind miracle go make cashier get 39 million naira out of thin air, donate am to church and the thieving pastor and thieving church members no go ask wetin happen, how him take get the money? I repeat, all of una wey dey defend this stealing on this thread be thief. Una go do worse than Lawrence Agada.

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KJV: I Timothy Chapter 6

[6] But godliness with contentment is great gain.
[7] For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
[8] And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
[9] But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
[10] For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
[11] But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

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KJV: Matthew Chapter 6

[24]
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

KJV: Genesis Chapter 9

[6] Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

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Joagbaje has been reduced to personal insults on this thread. . .seeing that he can not bamboozle his way out of the fact that his god Chris Oyakhilome is a thief.

Talk about an emperor and his "new" clothes.

Joagbajee:
Stop flattering yourself in fantasy, the bible says to avoid you, that's what I did. If you see a Unclad man with cutlass on the street won't you cross to the other side?

Was the money chris oyakhilome s money? Did pastor chris know the man? was he in the branch pastor chris is? . False accusers don't look at facts. You're blinded by your ungodly passion for hate. Like a frustrated widow /wer. I'm not defending anything . I only want you guys to look at facts , lay your bias aside.

If you shout thief from morning to evening, it doesn't change the fact. If a man gives me a gift , maybe a car or television, and I learnt it was stolen . I don't need a preacher to tell me to return it. It is common sense to return it. But if a man gives to "God" offering , or if a man gives for a project like tv programme, orphanage ,and the money was used for such project. It's gone! Will you ask taxi man to return money, or the meat seller to return money because the buyer of the meat stole the money? It doesn't make sense. If he give to God he should go and ask God. If he gave for tv programme ,he should ask tv station to refund the money. Not pastor chris. It's not a personal gift . It didn't go to pastor chris personal account. He didn't know the guy. Any guy can contribute anything in church. The pastor has no business to stop them . He only teaches them the word . And pastor chris has taught several tines against criminality and tendencies. We can only have issues if pastor chris says it is scriptural to steal and claim "THE VIOLENT TAKE IT BY FORCE"

If such a refund is encouraged, what if someone shows up and claim he gave 2million 3 years ago in a church. And he's lying. If there's any wrong doing legally by the church, we have a law. It spares no one. If the law clears the church , so where is your one coming from? Take your animosity out of the way and look at facts.

Shey I don address you directly now.

^Hogwash. . .Trash

KJV: I Corinthians Chapter 11
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

Basito:
Pastor Chris is a genuine man of God and stands as a perfect example to be emulated.

. . .exactly an example of the man-worshiping CE cult follower.

Only Jesus is our Perfect Example.

mabell:
When the LovePeddler approached and poured her perfume on Jesus, did Question the source and then attempt to return it
If yes, pls state where in the scripture it is written

^Tsk, tsk, tsk. Was the perfume stolen? No. Was the money given to Chris Oyakhilome stolen? YES!. Here are the pertinent bible verses:
Luke 7:38;
Matt 26:7;
Mark 14:3;
John 12:2-3

Now show us here where it is written that the woman was a "love-peddler"? Is that one of the lies they tell you people in CE to justify keeping stolen goods? Is that also why your cult uses methods bordering on "love-peddling" to recruit members?

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Joagbajee:
May God forgive you. You are a false accuser of the brethren. I don't have any motive. I only encourage Christians to play by the rules. Not your agbero lifestyle.

^You are no brother except to those of the lupine persuasion. You are also a hypocrite talking about "false accusations" and yet on this same thread you have lied against Enigma.

Joagbajee:
Enigma didn't want to face the Shame. So he hid under the tables and started emailing venom vomiting "christian"? doctor

When did Enigma email me? You think decent men operate like you with multiple IDs, while mounting a subtle campaign to be made a moderator on this forum (God forbid!). The fact that the system locked you out and forced you to adopt another user id may be as a result of you trying something illegal. . .Joabaje/Azibalua/mabel

mabell:
Even a pry school pupil should know this

^As always your nigh-nonexistent English comprehension skills have let you don:

Kay 17:
From the facts provided, CEC is not liable since the subject matter was given out as an offering, except if the pastor was well aware at the time of receiving it.

Prithee, do tell us little girl, what do these bolded words above mean. Can it be shown that the pastor would have been aware that the money was stolen at the time of it being offered? Why, certainly yes:

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2) The claims that he did not know that the goods in question were stolen falls flat, because it is clearly established that this was brought to his attention:

In Agada’s letter to Oyakhilome made available to Newswatch, he informed the pastor formally that he removed funds belonging to Sheraton Hotel to the tune of N39 million. He said he used the money for “various projects and seeding and blessing of brethren in the church without due authorisation from my organisation.”

Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

3) Even the pastor of the Ifako branch was willing to do the right thing but for. . .

Imonivwerha said soon after the confession of Agada, officials of Sheraton Hotel took a tour of the respective churches to verify his claims. He said the team, which included Agada himself, sighted the big generator and chairs at the headquarters of Christ Embassy. According to him, Christine Davidson-Ekeh, head of mission at Christ Embassy, admitted that Agada acquired both the generator and the chairs for the church.

“At the Ifako church we also sighted, and confirmed from the presiding pastor, Mrs. Sholesi, the respective gifts made to the church by Mr. Agada. She, in fact, confirmed that he was her ‘right hand man’ and volunteered further, her willingness to return the money if she had the means to do so,” said Imonivwerha. He said, however, that Sholesi and Davidson-Ekeh indicated their inability to take any further action on the matter but advised the hotel and Agada to write to Oyakhilome.

So I maintain that not only is Chris Oyakhilome a thief but he is a modern Pharisee who so loves money:

ogajim:
@aletheia

There is no shame in their game as long as you're "blessing" CEC with stolen money they claim not to be aware of at that time, NONSENSE!

A politician can return not only stolen money but other kinds of money gained from dishonest means and a Church can't simply give the money back. Makes you wonder what kind of "church" they really operate, even corporate businesses show more honesty and transparency that these bunch.

^Precisely the point these "gods" would try to brainwash us into overlooking, sir.

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frosbel:
Are you avoiding my thread on anointing.  
We have a task on this forum, to keep exposing the truth till you stop telling fables.
May God open your eyes.

Bro frosbel: Do you now see clearly the motive underlying Jo's other thread on not naming names while exposing false prophets?

Joagbajee:
Enigma didn't want to face the Shame. So he hid under the tables and started emailing venom vomiting "christian"? doctor
Today seem to be a bad day for their evil vices .

^
I notice you no longer have the "liver" to directly address me and must always be making tangential references to my person. I have already told you what you are and no doubt it really irks you, not so?

In refusing to return the stolen property after it was clearly established that they were stolen, Chris and the Christ Embassy cult committed a felony. . .no matter how your pack (and I use the word deliberately) tries to spin it.

Barr rich:
It is not at a matter of Christ embassy cult, but factual presentation of facts that you guys are sewing together to prove a nonsensical point.
You need to be civilised with the way you make a point because I sincerely think there is no need to use fowl language in making your point.
Well I leave you guys to what you have decided to believe. Thanks.

^Point out the [sic]fowl language. I guess it clucks and eats grains, right?

Typical CE tactic - crying about foul language and non-existent insults. A real lawyer worth his salt will know that the word is spelled foul not fowl.
Again I reiterate:

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A receiver of stolen goods who knowingly takes possession of such goods is equally liable. . .such a one can not lay claim to being a man of God. Scripture disqualifies him.

. . .not greedy of filthy lucre;

Your argument skips over the part of the law that defines a receiver of stolen property as equally guilty as the actual thief to quibble about procedure. . .pathetic. You keep such for when you appear before the Judge. As it is the story of Agada did not happen in a corner. Christ Embassy did not deny that they received stolen money and property. . .and by the laws of the land and basic morality (even a politician like Obama returned tainted money) your man Chris Oyakhilome is a thief.

Earlier, Enigma referred you to the relevant portions of the penal code. Do you think it was not noticed how you disappeared only to surface now. Here are the relevant portions you "piss-poor" example of a lawyer:

Here is what Lawrence Agada did:

Chapter 34
Stealing
[center].
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.[/center]
383.   (1)          A person who fraudulently takes anything capable of being stolen, or fraudulently converts to his own use or to the use of any other person anything capable of being stolen, is said to steal that thing.
 (2)          A person who takes or converts anything capable of being stolen is deemed to do so fraudulently if he does so with any of the following intents-
[center].
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.[/center]
(f)             in the case of money, an intent to use it at the will of the person who takes or converts it, although he may intend afterwards to repay the amount to the owner.
               The term "special property" includes any charge or lien upon the thing in question, and any right arising from or dependent upon holding possession of the thing in question, whether by the person entitled to such right or by some other person for his benefit.

Here is how Chris Oyakhilome broke the law and became a thief and a felon:

Chapter 39
Receiving Property Stolen or Fraudulently Obtained and like Offences

427.         Any person who receives anything which has been obtained by means of any act constituting a felony or misdemeanour, or by means of any act done at a place not in Nigeria, which if it had been done in Nigeria would have constituted a felony or misdemeanour, and which is an offence under the laws in force in the place where it was done, knowing the same to have been so obtained, is guilty of a felony.

               If the offence by means of which the thing was obtained is a felony, the offender is liable to imprisonment for fourteen years, except in the case in which the thing so obtained was postal matter, or any chattel, money or valuable security contained therein, in which case the offender is liable to imprisonment for life.

               In any other case the offender is liable to imprisonment for seven years.

               For the purpose of proving the receiving of anything it is sufficient to show that the accused person has, either alone or jointly with some other person, had the thing in his possession, or has aided in concealing it or disposing of it.

With each post you make, you make me doubt more your claims to being a lawyer. The laws of the land are clear and the facts are explicit. . .but because your conscience has been seared by the sensual, libertine, relativistic and amoralistic message of the cult called Christ Embassy. . .

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; (1Ti 4:1-2)

As an example of the typical Christ Embassy cult follower, notice the justification that Agada provided for his stealing:

Agada told Newswatch last week before he was handed over to the police that when he was in the office he found out that whenever there was a need in church “God put it in his heart to do something for the church. I was taking the money from the office believing that He was going to replace everything?”

We most definitely know that the Holy One will not put it into anyone's heart to steal. So the question must be asked: just what sort of people are in Christ Embassy for on this thread we have seen how such thinking is encouraged by the likes of Joagbaje/mabell/newmi/Azibalua/Barr rich/et al. . .who in their amoral stance see nothing wrong about a "man of God" retaining possession of stolen property.

Stealing from employers is a very common way that people steal. Titus 2:9-10 was originally written to slaves and their masters, but it applies equally well to workers and their employers today. “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.”

Truly their consciences have been seared by the "prosperity" rubbish they feed on. They are indeed like the prodigal son:

And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat

Barr rich:
I don't know if what you're quoting is from outside the laws of Nigeria, and also the authorities you are citing are authorities that not within the knowledge of the DPP.

I doubt if you are indeed a lawyer. I find it suspicious that all your posts to date are on threads relating to the Chist Embassy cult.

Barr rich:
Who hired you or who are you holding brief for on this platform. If you think there is an offence and you really want to prosecute the matter, you can apply for a fiat from the Attorney General of Lagos State or go to court to seek an order of mandamus compelling the Attorney General to prosecute.

A receiver of stolen goods who knowingly takes possession of such goods is equally liable. . .such a one can not lay claim to being a man of God. Scripture disqualifies him.

. . .not greedy of filthy lucre;

Barr rich:
I have already outlined for you the procedure for criminal investigation down to conviction, but you are ignoring what is there to quote sections and authorities to prove what here?
I only outline those  procedures for you thinking you people are really genuinely displaying ignorance, but I am constrained to submit that your verbiage is only here to create uneccesary hate towards a particular minister. I have already said that this is not a law court where a person is tried for any alleged offence, go to cout. Thank you.

Your argument skips over the part of the law that defines a receiver of stolen property as equally guilty as the actual thief to quibble about procedure. . .pathetic. You keep such for when you appear before the Judge. As it is the story of Agada did not happen in a corner. Christ Embassy did not deny that they received stolen money and property. . .and by the laws of the land and basic morality (even a politician like Obama returned tainted money) your man Chris Oyakhilome is a thief.

Earlier, Enigma referred you to the relevant portions of the penal code. Do you think it was not noticed how you disappeared only to surface now. Here are the relevant portions you "piss-poor" example of a lawyer:

Here is what Lawrence Agada did:

Chapter 34
Stealing
[center].
.
.[/center]
383.   (1)          A person who fraudulently takes anything capable of being stolen, or fraudulently converts to his own use or to the use of any other person anything capable of being stolen, is said to steal that thing.
 (2)          A person who takes or converts anything capable of being stolen is deemed to do so fraudulently if he does so with any of the following intents-
[center].
.
.[/center]
(f)             in the case of money, an intent to use it at the will of the person who takes or converts it, although he may intend afterwards to repay the amount to the owner.
               The term "special property" includes any charge or lien upon the thing in question, and any right arising from or dependent upon holding possession of the thing in question, whether by the person entitled to such right or by some other person for his benefit.

Here is how Chris Oyakhilome broke the law and became a thief and a felon:

Chapter 39
Receiving Property Stolen or Fraudulently Obtained and like Offences

427.         Any person who receives anything which has been obtained by means of any act constituting a felony or misdemeanour, or by means of any act done at a place not in Nigeria, which if it had been done in Nigeria would have constituted a felony or misdemeanour, and which is an offence under the laws in force in the place where it was done, knowing the same to have been so obtained, is guilty of a felony.

               If the offence by means of which the thing was obtained is a felony, the offender is liable to imprisonment for fourteen years, except in the case in which the thing so obtained was postal matter, or any chattel, money or valuable security contained therein, in which case the offender is liable to imprisonment for life.

               In any other case the offender is liable to imprisonment for seven years.

               For the purpose of proving the receiving of anything it is sufficient to show that the accused person has, either alone or jointly with some other person, had the thing in his possession, or has aided in concealing it or disposing of it.

mabell:
Thrash

newmi:
Another rubbish
I spit on this!

Joagbajee:
Real long empty trash as usual . So it's Him/her that finally surfaced from under the table  

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The worshipers of Chris Oyakhilome reveal themselves. According to the facts:

aletheia:
The prophets of Mammon and disciples of Balaam are at it again. . .trying to pull the wool over our eyes. [size=14pt]Chris Oyakhilome is a thief according to the Laws of Nigeria[/size]:

How do I know that Chris Oyakhilome is a thief;
1) The goods in question were stolen and he took possession of them:

2) The claims that he did not know that the goods in question were stolen falls flat, because it is clearly established that this was brought to his attention:

Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

3) Even the pastor of the Ifako branch was willing to do the right thing but for. . .

So I maintain that not only is Chris Oyakhilome a thief but he is a modern Pharisee who so loves money:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
(Mat 7:15-20)

We clearly have seen the fruit of thievery and greed manifested in Chris Oyakhilome. And to you the Greek chorus, it is written:
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
(Jer 17:5)

^Cognitive dissonance. . .

Sweetnecta:
may Allah assign a good destination to every muslim, male or female. Amin.

Why pray? Your god Allah has already assured you. . .All Muslims will enter hell.

So stop deceiving yourself. Only Jesus can save you from that fate worse than death.

musKeeto:
Started reading the book?

Not yet. Have been tied up with designing a patient registry in MS Access. Will get on it as soon as I clear my desk. Thanks.

Joagbajee:
Case closed  

The prophets of Mammon and disciples of Balaam are at it again. . .trying to pull the wool over our eyes. [size=14pt]Chris Oyakhilome is a thief according to the Laws of Nigeria[/size]:

Section 427 of the Criminal Code thus makes receiving anything which has been obtained through the commission of crime also a crime. It is immaterial that the property was not obtained through such a crime in Nigeria. This offence is itself geared towards discouraging stealing and protection of property. Under the Penal Code receiving stolen property is covered by section 316.

The important elements here are that, you must have ‘received’ the property in question and also have ‘knowledge’ of the fact that the property so received was stolen. To constitute ‘receiving’, it is sufficient if you are in actual (physical) possession of the stolen property or if it can be deemed that you are in possession (by virtue of the fact that the stolen property is in possession of someone over whom you have control or authority), either alone or in conjunction with others, or if you have aided the disposal or concealment of such property. See R v. Osakwe [1963] All N.L.R. 362.

In the same vein, knowledge that the property is stolen is required before you can be guilty of the offence. You will however be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen, for example where the property in question is sold at a ridiculously low price. See R. v. Braimah (1943) W.A.C.A. 197.

The general condition of the property may also indicate that the accused ought to have suspected that the property was stolen e.g. where the name written on it or
other marks of the owner has been defaced or altered.

How do I know that Chris Oyakhilome is a thief;
1) The goods in question were stolen and he took possession of them:

Lawrence Agada, general cashier of Sheraton Hotels and Towers, Ikeja, will not forget January 12, in a hurry. On that fateful day, Chris Oyakhilome, pastor of Christ Embassy Church , Oregun, prophesied in a letter to him that God would do mighty things in his life. “He will cause you to excel and lift you up so high that the world can’t but take notice of you, in Jesus name. Amen.” Agada attracted the prophecy for sowing a seed of a 250 KVA generator valued at N4.4 million to the headquarters of Christ Embassy.

2) The claims that he did not know that the goods in question were stolen falls flat, because it is clearly established that this was brought to his attention:

In Agada’s letter to Oyakhilome made available to Newswatch, he informed the pastor formally that he removed funds belonging to Sheraton Hotel to the tune of N39 million. He said he used the money for “various projects and seeding and blessing of brethren in the church without due authorisation from my organisation.”

Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

3) Even the pastor of the Ifako branch was willing to do the right thing but for. . .

Imonivwerha said soon after the confession of Agada, officials of Sheraton Hotel took a tour of the respective churches to verify his claims. He said the team, which included Agada himself, sighted the big generator and chairs at the headquarters of Christ Embassy. According to him, Christine Davidson-Ekeh, head of mission at Christ Embassy, admitted that Agada acquired both the generator and the chairs for the church.

“At the Ifako church we also sighted, and confirmed from the presiding pastor, Mrs. Sholesi, the respective gifts made to the church by Mr. Agada. She, in fact, confirmed that he was her ‘right hand man’ and volunteered further, her willingness to return the money if she had the means to do so,” said Imonivwerha. He said, however, that Sholesi and Davidson-Ekeh indicated their inability to take any further action on the matter but advised the hotel and Agada to write to Oyakhilome.

So I maintain that not only is Chris Oyakhilome a thief but he is a modern Pharisee who so loves money:

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In the gospels which narrate events two thousand years ago, a group of people called Pharisees occupied a prominent position. There were frequent confrontations between them and Jesus.

Luke 12:1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Jesus warned his disciples to be on their guard against the yeast of the Pharisees. This warning applies to his disciples today as well. The spirit behind the Pharisees of Jesus’ day remains as active as ever today. How can modern-day Pharisees be identified?


The yeast of the Pharisees is hypocrisy

Jesus clearly taught that the yeast of the Pharisees is hypocrisy. One major characteristic of yeast in dough is that it spreads quickly and causes it to rise and grow in size. However, there is little substance to it because it is mostly air. The physical context in Luke 12 where Jesus taught about the yeast of the Pharisees is significant. At that moment, a crowd of many thousands had gathered around Jesus. Swirling about this man from Galilee who could perform unparalleled miracles were whispers that he might be the promised Messiah. There were so many people that they were trampling on one another. It was neither an orderly nor an obedient crowd. It was a carnal crowd drawn by the promise of spectacular miracles. It was in this heady atmosphere that Jesus warned his disciples to be on their guard against the yeast of the Pharisees. Why? These can be the conditions where the yeast of hypocrisy can spread quickly.

Let’s define hypocrisy in a very simple manner. It’s saying and teaching one thing, but secretly doing and practicing something very different. The Pharisees were very good at this. According to Strong’s, the Greek word for hypocrisy (hupocrisis) carries the strong flavor of pretense and deceit.

Matthew 23:1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy loads and put them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5 “Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’

Let’s examine what was in their hearts which motivated them. First of all, they loved to receive honor from people. They loved to be recognized by people as men of God. Moreover, the Pharisees were motivated by the love of money---the root of all evil.


The love of money

Luke 16:14 The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15 He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight.

Mark 12:38 As he taught, Jesus said, “Watch out for the teachers of the law.… 40 They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely.”

Matthew 23:25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.

Jesus clearly taught that the Pharisees loved the praise of people and loved money. They preyed on widows who had possessions. It was not that the Pharisees were stingy. No, they knew how to give; they were faithful with their tithes. But they did not obey the spirit of the law.

Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.


The severest punishment

Jesus also revealed that Pharisees looked very spiritual and righteous on the outside, but that on the inside they were full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Matthew 23:27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

Jesus condemned these men more harshly than he condemned anyone else, including gentiles and outsiders. They would be punished most severely (Mark 12:40). It was because outwardly they appeared to be righteous and God-fearing, but in reality they were sons of the devil (John 8:44). Therefore they were the perfect deceivers of God’s people. They were ferocious wolves in sheep’s clothing about which Jesus warned His flock in Matthew 7:15.

Matthew 23:29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! …33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

How can we identify the Pharisees of today?

Matthew 13:33 He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into a large amount of flour until it worked all through the dough.”

The yeast of the Pharisees which is hypocrisy spreads quickly through the kingdom of heaven, making it appear to grow and become large. But there is little substance involved. What kind of hypocrisy can do this?

Today in the Church there are teachers, citing mostly references from the Old Testament, who say that God wants every believer to be a millionaire. While on a mission trip to Southeast Asia, I saw a poster in a church promoting a meeting by a successful Christian businessman which trumpeted in bold letters, “How to get rich.” The purpose of this poster was to draw the lost to the meeting to hear the gospel. Those who would attend the meeting would of course likely be those who wanted to get rich.

1 Timothy 6:9 People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

The love of money and lavish earthly comfort, disguised as a holy desire for God’s blessings, has spread quickly through parts of the Church like yeast. Many Christians now gather to fill churches---big and small---every Sunday in search of God’s blessing here and now. It is not that God does not want to provide for our needs or that He does not desire to bless us here on earth. But some in the Church have crossed the line. Relatively few are the teachings that train us to live holy and fruitful lives on earth in order to receive our eternal reward in heaven. Rather, many teachings tell us what to do in order to receive God’s various blessings here on earth so that we may become “successful” and “fulfilled.” Becoming a blessing to others has become simply a pretext and an afterthought to seeking God's earthly blessings for oneself.

Scripture teaches us otherwise.

Colossians 3:1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your a life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.


Big crowds drawn by the spectacular can be like dough puffed up by yeast

[size=14pt]Those teachers who focus on earthly prosperity do so with the ultimate purpose of enriching themselves on the offerings of their ever-increasing number of disciples, as well for financing their big ministries. They love the earthly rewards of their teaching---material gain and many adoring followers. Outwardly they appear to be servants of God, but on the inside they are full of greed and the desire to become like Hollywood celebrities. They can draw huge crowds of people with spectacular miracles or promises, but these crowds of carnal Christians, like dough puffed up by yeast, are mostly air. They are fertile ground for yeast. Many of them have not come to learn to serve and obey Christ in holiness, but only to hear about God's earthly blessings in this life. The teachers are more than willing to tickle their ears with empty words.[/size]

Such servants of God are among the Pharisees of today.

Luke 12:1 Meanwhile, when a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling on one another, Jesus began to speak first to his disciples, saying: “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. , 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Ephesians 5:5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

http://www.theelijahchallenge.org/Teachings/109%20Modern-day%20Pharisees.htm

Sweetnecta:
Perhaps one day, you will be let out on other days than fridays. They you will read that a foo.l in his heart says God is 3 persons.
Aletheia; how you dey?
Everything ok?
Which one of the 3 will you worship first?
Which one will you worship last?

Doesn't your god and his false prophet say that these supposed "three" ( ) is Jesus, Mary, and the Father according to sura 5:116. Your Satan (Allah) and his ignorant prophet couldn't even get their accusation straight. And you their blind follower (blind mohammed leading blind sweetnecta. . .they shall both fall into the ditch) can no doubt educate them on what Christians believe viz.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Tsammy:
Be it known to you first of all, that death and life are in the power of the Tongue, Proverb 18: 21. Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, Proverb 6: 2. Remember Mariam to Moses, read to know the mind of God, Numbers 12: 1 - 10. Ignorant of the scripture does not exempt you. Maybe take a look at David's wife - Michal, 2Sam 6: 20 - 23. NOTE, David was the Lord's anointed. I will not be apologetic, rather give you the truth, you can joke with other issues, but not Men of God, this is the mind of God. BE WISE, JUST A PIECE OF ADVICE.

1) I repeat: for accepting stolen goods and refusing to return them; Chris Oyakhilome is a thief. The arguments that the money was given to God is lame. God does not need money and God does not accept tainted goods (see Elisha, Gehazi and Naaman; also Ananias and Sapphira) not to talk of stolen goods.

2) Go an study why Aaron and Miriam were rebuked. Chris Oyakhilome is not Moses.

3) David was the Lord's anointed - so is every born again man or woman.

4) Chris Oyakhilome is a false teacher and by the authority of scripture, there is nothing to be afraid of concerning him or his acolytes.

When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Christ Embassy is a cult of Mammon worshipers, a conclave of people with itching ears who have gathered to themselves teachers who tell them what they want to hear, a licentious, libertine and sensual cesspit of corruption masquerading under false piety.

mabell:
What money did he steal from who.
Was the stolen money given to God or to pastor Chris?

Let me break it down for you nepios;
If someone steals money and gives it to you, and you refuse to return it after it is shown to you that it is stolen then you are also a thief.

(1 Tim 5:22) Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
By receiving stolen money and refusing to return it, Oyakhilome has taken part in Agada's stealing. . .so he's a thief. Come to think of it: you lot claim he's the next best thing to Jesus, how come he lacked the discernment to know the goods were stolen. . .certainly we can compare him to Peter in the case of Ananias and Sapphira. The difference is clear. You may also wish to ponder the words of Jesus concerning so-called "gifts to God".

Chris Oyakhilome is a thief.

@Topic:


I'll start respecting the man, the day he returns stolen goods and money to the rightful owners. . .until then he is a thief.

Lawrence Agada, general cashier of Sheraton Hotels and Towers, Ikeja, will not forget January 12, in a hurry. On that fateful day, Chris Oyakhilome, pastor of Christ Embassy Church , Oregun, prophesied in a letter to him that God would do mighty things in his life. “He will cause you to excel and lift you up so high that the world can’t but take notice of you, in Jesus name. Amen.” Agada attracted the prophecy for sowing a seed of a 250 KVA generator valued at N4.4 million to the headquarters of Christ Embassy.

There was no stopping him after that. In no time he had spent N39 million on various projects and personal donations to pastors of Christ Embassy Church . But rather than receive reward for his seed sowing, Agada has landed into trouble. He was handed over to the police last week for stealing the money from his employers, to fund church projects.

KnowAll:
Let us celeberate this Gentleman's life.!!

If it is your desire to celebrate Steve Jobs' life, go ahead but please stop peddling lies and unsubstantiated stories in a vain attempt to elevate him into some sort of sainthood.

Sweetnecta:
. . .the equally foo.lish says there are 3 persons in God.

At least you are getting closer to understanding how Jehovah has manifested Himself to men in history. From your interaction with Christians, you now know far better than Mohammed and Allah that:
(1Jn 5:7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Whereas your false god al-ilah also known as Hubal and his false prophet are really confused as to Who God is as is recorded in this sura 5:116:
And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?

Perhaps, one day you will believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the son of God and that there is no name given under heaven (no, not even Mohammed), by which men will be saved. You must be born again.

jayriginal:
. . .the New Testament is not part of scripture. . .

Now I understand what you are.

The fool hath said in his heart There is no God

jayriginal:
Peter did not call Paul's writings scripture because they were infact not scripture. He called them what they were; epistles (or letters if you will) !

The least you could have done is look up the relevant bible passage.
And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

ogoamaka99:
. . .only fools doubts real proof. . .

Dead giveaway that this is an Oyedepo-worshipper.

And what constitutes proof? Here is a hint: "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"

Your proof is the jets, mansions, worldly wealth. It is no doubt an insight into our mutually exclusive worldviews that while you consider these to be prrof of God's approbation; some of us regard the means through which these were acquired and the deceitful twisting of words and manipulation that is used to arrive at this point as proof of God's disapprobation.

^Thanks alot man!

@KnowAll (an interesting psychological insight into your personality is provided by your moniker). . .from just six nondescript and noncommittal words; you conclude that Steve Jobs had a vision of heaven on his deathbed. It's been stated already that. . .

musKeeto:
This is how lies begin,

You cannot convince people of the existence of God by peddling rumors and lies. . .Do you belong to the pentecostal wing of "Christianity" where such mythomania finds much traction? Your cause will not be served by such methods.

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@musKeeto: Please can I have a copy of the book? I have a Kindle.

A question for you frosbel:

What are the differences between the Sephardim, the Ashkenazim and the Khazars?

*bump*

Joagbaje:
While others are labouring to bring sinners into Gods kingdom. . .

Pharisees have never lacked proselytizing zeal.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.