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PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 7:58pm On Feb 25, 2020
maynation:
You just validated one of my initial points when Sammy said Ore Ondo, I told him they speak more of Ikale mixed with Osun/Oyo/Kwara and this is because of their very plenty populations.
You also validated my claim that although Ileoluji/Okeigbo have very similar languages with Ondo people but they are dissociated from Ekinmogun.

I don't even know what you are arguing with me over.

Mind you, below is a proof of Ikale being majority in Odigbo
Ile-Oluji speak a dialect that is almost similar to that of Ondo and that confirm the Ekimogun link. Odigbo town, Ajue and Araromi Obu also speak a a variant of Ondo dialect with minor difference. They are also aware of a history that confirm their Ondo root.

Ore has many settler and Oyo, Osun, almost outnumber the combine presence of people of Ikale, Ilaje and the Odigbo indegene.

Your wikipedia account is very questionable as it omit Odigbo town, Ajue and Araromi obu.
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 7:33pm On Feb 25, 2020
maynation:
Did you read through my arguments with him?
I never said Ikale can lay claims to Odibo, I said Odigbo is more of Ikale than Ondo. To even broaden my point, Ikale has a case in court fighting over the ownership of Araromi Obu? That is to tell you what it is. Secondly you don't judge the nativity of people by their political affilation. We have Igbo reps in lagos, is lagos an Igbo state? James Faleke claims Kogi state and yet held a political seat in Lagos. It happens every where.

And then you said he knows what he is saying, so Omotosho, Ode Aye, Ajebandele are Ekinmogun?
Ondo town is Ekinmogun.
I think I should ask you if you read through the poster argument. He wasn't claiming Ode Aye as Ondo territories but said Ekimogun( Ondo) kingdom extended to it's boundary.

You need to understand that historic link and better substantiated by similarity of language. There are Ondo dialect spoken by communities beyond Ondo town. Many of this community are in Odigbo local government. Yes, after Odigbo local government are core Ikale towns of Ode aye, Irele and Okitipupa. Between this boundaries presence are Ikale settlement and you can find this like Lafe, lowo, Ogbe and the rest. This are villages that link Odigbo to major In Ikale town. The dispute with Araromi is also as a result of this settlement. Remember that Araromi Obu is a major indigenous town in Odigbo local government. I think this border dispute should be handled with caution.

Lastly the comparison you drew with Lagos political system is irrelevant. Lagos is largely a metropolitan area with little indigenous influence. Ore is almost taking the shape of Lagos but the Odigbo people still fight to exert their political dominance. The post of chairman has been occupied by the indigenous people for years but with the growing influence of settlers and foreigner, this is being brought to question. The current deputy speaker of Ondo house of assembly member, Hon Iroju Ogundeji, is an Ikale man who practice his politics in Ore and struggled to get an assembly slot. He is one of the only Ikale man to have held elected office in that local government.
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 7:10pm On Feb 25, 2020
membranus:
Ondo town has never ever had all those Ikale towns. Ikale kingdom is too large, diverse and very hard for Ondo to ever dare to dominate.

Take this from a proud Ikale Prince
The poster isn't claiming Ondo dominance of Ikale land. In fact, Ikale that I know are land grabber who want to claim territories around them. Ondo influence extend beyond Ondo town and that is undeniable. This is evident in the towns that like Odigbo, Ajue, Araromi Obu where a variant of Ondo language is spoken. I'm not an Ondo man but an Ilaje who was brought up in Ore. The Odigbo still sell land in Ore and it's environment extending to Ore alaba.
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 6:45pm On Feb 25, 2020
maynation:
Please try and travel first or make very good use of the internet.

I even found this while searching for Odigbo. Don't argue what you don't know. Peace.
Your source is questionable. Ikale can't lay claim to Odigbo local government. I reside in Ore and I'm an Ilaje man. Why is the polical office in this constituency still occupied by the so-indigenous people of Odigbo. The indigenous people which the poster claim were part of Ekimogun kingdom comprises of Odigbo town, Ajue, Araromi obu. Even Iroju Ogundeji, an Ore resident and an Ikale man from Okitipupa became a member of house of assembly member after riding through storm and with the backing of Mimiko.

The information on Wikipedia explain why people sometimes question it's authenticity. It is subject to modifications by authorize person but this could result in distortion. It listed the town's in Odigbo local government while excluding Odigbo town, Ajue and Araromi Obu. This is the base of indigenous people who claim ownership. Agreed, their are minor dispute with the neighbouring Ikale but this does not result in conflict as Odigbo people don't extend their influence to Ikale territory.
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 6:34pm On Feb 25, 2020
maynation:
You are more confused that I initially thought, did you just say Ode Aye? Seriously you are saying gibberish. Ode Aye is even after Ore, just before getting to Okitipupa. Ode Aye is under Okitipupa LGA which is strictly an Ikale ethnic group. How could you skip Odigbo LGA to share boundary with the far Off Ode Aye? Stop reading nonsense online, I have visited and spent some couple of days in almost all the towns in Ondo state including the small villages.
Ekimogun is strictly Ondo town, Odigbo is more of Ikale. ODE aye is Ikale, Owena is ifedore LGA they don't even associate with Ekinmogun although there languages are almost the same.
Don't just sit at the comfort of your town and read lies online only to come argue with someone that has explored Ondo state and her entirety.
The poster understand the basis of his argument. Odigbo local government has indeginous people who speak variant of Ondo dialect. The are also have historical ties to Ondo city, although Ore which is the head quarter of Odigbo local government has a large presence of Ikale, there are also other settler like Oyo and Osun in overwhelming presence despite having no indigenous root in the state. The land in Ore are still being sold by the Odigbos. Ile Oluji is also a neighbouring local government to the Odigbos and they speak a dialect that is almost similar to Ondo kingdom. The Idanre are likely related to Ekimogun too as reflected in their dialect.
PoliticsRe: President Buhari Visits Ondo, Commissions Industrial Hub, Flyover (Photos) by alfredilly: 6:24pm On Feb 25, 2020
maynation:
You are more confused that I initially thought, did you just say Ode Aye? Seriously you are saying gibberish. Ode Aye is even after Ore, just before getting to Okitipupa. Ode Aye is under Okitipupa LGA which is strictly an Ikale ethnic group. How could you skip Odigbo LGA to share boundary with the far Off Ode Aye? Stop reading nonsense online, I have visited and spent some couple of days in almost all the towns in Ondo state including the small villages.
Ekimogun is strictly Ondo town, Odigbo is more of Ikale. ODE aye is Ikale, Owena is ifedore LGA they don't even associate with Ekinmogun although there languages are almost the same.
Don't just sit at the comfort of your town and read lies online only to come argue with someone that has explored Ondo state and her entirety.
The poster understand the basis of his argument. Odigbo local government has indeginous people who speak variant of Ondo dialect. The are also have historical ties to Ondo city, although Ore which is the head quarter of Odigbo local government has a large presence of Ikale, there are also other settler like Oyo and Osun in overwhelming presence despite having no indigenous root in the state. The land in Ore are still being sold by the Odigbos. Ile Oluji is also a neighbouring local government to the Odigbos and they speak a dialect that is almost similar to Ondo kingdom. The Idanre are likely related to Ekimogun too as reflected in their dialect.
CelebritiesRe: Kemi Olunloye's Son, Eni, Insults His Mother by alfredilly:
irunoko:
Calling your own mom a prostitute?

Says much about your upbringing.

Even if she is so,it's in your own place to cover your parents unclothedness not expose it,that's how
sensible children honour their parents

It's however sad that at 33 when you are supposed to have/display a certain level of wisdom commensurate with your age,you are displaying the opposite

No Matter how bad your mother is, she's still your mother,you cannot take my own mother or anybody's mother at that

Meanwhile in life we're only given 1 mothers for life.you can marry and replace wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends or colleagues but you can never replace your own mother no Matter how imperfect she is.continue disgracing yourself thinking that you're disgracing your mother,it's until she dies before you know her worth

Yorubas say nkantabani,Lan nani.you care and pamper whatever is irreplaceable so that it will last longer in your hands and it will be more useful to you.

Moreso the way you treat your mom sets the tone for how others will treat her.if you can call her asewo in public,you have no right to get mad when other people call her that because you have indirectly told others how she should be treated and accorded
That is your own believe. In most civilized part of the world, parenthold is earned. People switch loyalty to whoever assume such role in their life. That is why a young boy or girl changed their surname to their step father's once they divorced mother remarry.
CelebritiesRe: Kemi Olunloye's Son, Eni, Insults His Mother by alfredilly: 3:42pm On Feb 22, 2020
Vortex369:
You are so naive.

Look beyond the source to the cause.

Cause of words, are beyond the source of words.

The cause of thoughts, and not the thoughts. And you will uncover the core.
If you are trying to enter poetry competition, you don't exploit a public display of your folly as stepping stone. A rudiment class would have fared better. As it is now, You pass no message other than ungarnished and uncensored exhibition of tomfoolery.
CelebritiesRe: Kemi Olunloye's Son, Eni, Insults His Mother by alfredilly: 3:36pm On Feb 22, 2020
Angelfrost:
33 year old son of a whole erudite Auntie Kemi writing so poorly??!... This is hard to believe. undecided
Why the much Ado about this guy writing. He has passed his message across anyway. You expect someone to expose the dark and difficult side of his life and still expressed it beautifully.
CelebritiesRe: Kemi Olunloye's Son, Eni, Insults His Mother by alfredilly: 3:25pm On Feb 22, 2020
irunoko:
Calling your own mom a prostitute?

Says much about your upbringing.

Even if she is so,it's in your own place to cover your parents unclothedness not expose it,that's how
sensible children honour their parents

It's however sad that at 33 when you are supposed to have/display a certain level of wisdom commensurate with your age,you are displaying the opposite

No Matter how bad your mother is, she's still your mother,you cannot take my own mother or anybody's mother at that

Meanwhile in life we're only given 1 mothers for life.you can marry and replace wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends or colleagues but you can never replace your own mother no Matter how imperfect she is.continue disgracing yourself thinking that you're disgracing your mother,it's until she dies before you know her worth

Yorubas say nkantabani,Lan nani.you care and pamper whatever is irreplaceable so that it will last longer in your hands and it will be more useful to you.

Moreso the way you treat your mom sets the tone for how others will treat her.if you can call her asewo in public,you have no right to get mad when other people call her that because you have indirectly told others how she should be treated and accorded
Davido don bribe this guy, a swear. You disown your mum, good and fine! But you don't necessarily bring it to the public. Get wisdom young man, it is your dirty linen.
CelebritiesRe: Kemi Olunloye's Son, Eni, Insults His Mother by alfredilly: 3:17pm On Feb 22, 2020
Vortex369:
Mental illness through DNA.

What spectrum could this be? Mentally unstable people should get treatment before producing babies.
Why are you guys pouring invective on the son and calling him unprintable names rather than correcting his mistake. The man isn't the first person to severe tigh with his parent. There is obviously no love lost between him and his mother and the young man gave genuine reasons for the acrimony. His action might not be perfect but then, it's his private life.
PoliticsRe: Amotekun: Ekiti To Translate Laws Into Yoruba Language by alfredilly: 11:38am On Feb 21, 2020
I know Akeredolu will lag behind in implementation of Amotekun. He only makes mouth. Despite being the chairman, he's always come second in taking steps. He'd even politicize recruitment into amotekun with his sales of form
PoliticsRe: Governor Akeredolu Inspects Ore Flyover Project (PHOTOS) by alfredilly: 10:13am On Feb 20, 2020
safetyInspector:
The design is very poor. The bridge is just few meters across the road and the rest is just mountain of sand. That roundabout idea is also not good. The roundabout and the heap of sound is the way of saving cost, but flood might be a problem during raining season unless there is a provision for underground drainage.
PoliticsRe: Governor Akeredolu Inspects Ore Flyover Project (PHOTOS) by alfredilly: 9:52am On Feb 20, 2020
Sheriman:
Ondo State Government Lied here!!! I am living in ORE and The Town is not as neat as it was seeing in the picture and the bridge gan self still under construction.. Ore need huge development from Ondo State Government despite the Millions of naira the Strategic Town is remitting to Ondo Government.
Ore needed Good Road because all Ore township roads are not motorable.. Poor Road Network and Urbanization..
Ore needed new Government Hospital, because Ore General Hospital which is available for use has completely turned to Mortuary grin grin
Ore needed Government Schools
Ore needed Adequate Electric unterrupted Power Supply among other things.
There is nothing to lie about the photo. It is an aerial view that bring a wide scene into focus. However, the lack of government impact and poor infrastructural development in Ore is huge. I'm an Ore resident too. I grew up here. A populous town that is witnessing a rapid surge in dwellers and settlers, yet little facility to meet the growing demand. Untarred road runs across the streets of Ore. It's so bad that when you move around in a bike, you are covered by dust.

Two public school in a town with population that compete with many city. My old secondary school is almost in ruin due to government neglect.
PoliticsRe: Governor Akeredolu Inspects Ore Flyover Project (PHOTOS) by alfredilly: 9:37am On Feb 20, 2020
Eagleboney:
u see am sef,
the foreground has a different colour from the background, unskilled editor
Aerial view always have more effect. Besides, it's a panoramic view that converge wide scene into a single focus. It is not necessarily the work of photo edit. Modern camera adds beauty too
CelebritiesRe: Olamide Signs Empire Record Label Contract - Pictures by alfredilly: 12:33am On Feb 19, 2020
goodyvin02:
What does he want to go and sing there, gbas gbos wos gbus gbus ke sweet like coconut, mo ti mu kabu kabu giberish music....
Like wtf??
Olamide is a versatile singer. He could dwell on rap and sing it like foreign rapper. He is someone who just like to incorporate varieties, so don't underrate him.
PoliticsRe: Suhaila Ibrahim Zakzaky With Soleimani's Daughter In Iran (Photos) by alfredilly: 4:41pm On Feb 17, 2020
Officialgarri:
Nigerian Shiite will lose the little sympathy they are getting from US
Nigerian Shiite ain't getting any sympathy from the US. That is why Buhari government had successfully carried out brutal measure on them. No group had suffered inhuman treatment in Nigeria like Shiite, but is the Buhari Sunni sect not sympathetic to Boko Haram and other terrorist organization?
PoliticsRe: Wike To Oshiomole: I'm A Trained Lawyer, Which University Did You Attend? by alfredilly: 8:45am On Feb 17, 2020
Smartchoiice:
Shut up boy. Wike fired shots.. which school did Oshiomole attend?!
Do you mean Oshiomole left her mother's womb and went straight to politics? We place undo priority on certificate while neglecting the essence of it which is intelligent. Is education only defined by university degree or PhD? Same people who praise Wike for vaunting repertoire of academic qualifications will turn around and say university degree is meaningless. Whether Oshiomole has university degree or not, he has displayed intelligence attesting to his literacy or are you telling me he has no secondary school certificate?
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 10:52pm On Feb 16, 2020
Eastlink:
So how come we’ve not been hearing about this soso in daily Yoruba words and names? Unlike the Igbos where the soso is a common theme in names, words, grammars and Igbo music.
Take for instance these names and meanings
Sochima - only God knows (late Okparaji’s middle name)
Soso ya ji nma agha - Only him held the cutlass
Soso mu na gi - Only I and you
Soso nri ka ima eri - Only food is what you know how to eat.
Soso gi ka m ga efe - Only you shall I worship (Igbo gospel song)
And countless
So let’s see the Yoruba version.
If you are not familiar with Soso as a Yoruba word, it is only because you don't understand the language. Soso meaning only is a commonly used words and it has appeared in song. Haven't you heard Asa song that say, Iwo, Iwo nikan soso- You, You only
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 6:16pm On Feb 16, 2020
Eastlink:
Lol! I hope they won’t claim unu too. The truth remains that Igbo words can never be lost. In terms of the ethymology of words, you can easily tell who owns what. Igbos don’t go around claiming words that ain’t there’s. Therefore others should allow Igbo words be.
So your claim to ancestry in Jamaica is down to few words like Unu, Soso. This can be likened to coincidence. Soso also means only in Yoruba and Akara is generally known throughout the entire south west. You can't claim language similarity by pin pointing few words. There has to be a coordinnated expressions that bear similar meaning. So many words coincide around the world.
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 5:19pm On Feb 16, 2020
BiafraIpob25:
When they could no longer bear the slavery, 250 Igbo men conspired to kill every white man in the land. we always say no to tyranny grin grin


We will win Nigeria in no distance time ..

IgboAmaka
Igbo and their desperation to dominate and lay claim to every good thing albiet through dubious mean. The evidence provided in the Jamaica claim isn't rich enough to validate Igbo ancestry. The few similarity in pronunciation can't be divorced from coincidence. Such coincidence exist in many language. When it comes to pread of influence to remote region of the world, Yoruba are unrivaled. The evidence is so glaring that an unadulterated Yoruba is still being spoken by a large section of Brazil, Cuba and some South American country. Even the culture are still retained in their original form. Yoruba gods and diety are also identified in these region. You see them worship Obatala, Sango, Yemoja etc
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 5:14pm On Feb 16, 2020
NaijaMutant:
The Igbo spirit is like a wild fire that cannot be quenched.




I feel blessed to be an Igbo cool
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 4:59pm On Feb 16, 2020
Frankdoz8:
Many Caribbean islands have good number of Igbo race. I once meet a Dominican woman of Igbo ancestry.
When it comes to spread of influence to remote region of the world, Yoruba are unrivaled. The evidence is so glaring that an unadulterated Yoruba is still being spoken by a large section of Brazil, Cuba and some South American country. Even the culture are still retained in their original form. Yoruba gods and diety are also identified in these region. You see them worship Obatala, Sango, Yemoja etc
CultureRe: A Brief Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by alfredilly: 4:53pm On Feb 16, 2020
[quote author=Frankdoz8 post=86681978]Many Caribbean islands have good number of Igbo race. I once meet a Dominican woman of Igbo ancestry.
CelebritiesRe: Nina Ivy Onyenobi's Traditional Wedding Introduction Ceremony (Pictures, Video) by alfredilly: 4:37pm On Feb 16, 2020
Audio wedding everywhere
HealthRe: Coronavirus: China Delivers Food To Quarantined People Through A Robot (Video) by alfredilly: 1:54pm On Feb 13, 2020
[quote author=six6prax post=86615257]wow, Chinese people invent good things too. I hope they are able to defeat the corona virus.

Which good thing Chinese people invent. Just name one. Chinese are good but they are still up upcoming in technology.
CelebritiesRe: Davido's Album Goes Platinum In The USA, Receives RIAA Plaque by alfredilly: 4:18pm On Feb 11, 2020
Welcome to the era of bad music in USA
TV/MoviesRe: Meet The New 16 Ultimate Love Guests In The Ultimate Love Residence by alfredilly: 1:52am On Feb 10, 2020
Yes, the male housemate are all Igbo and few south southerner. There is no denying that the show organizer is an Igbo man. The audition was really conducted in Igbo language.
Foreign AffairsRe: Brexit: United Kingdom To Exit The European Union On January 31 by alfredilly: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2020
[quote author=fairfora post=86223304]The only sensible comment I've read here this morning. Many do not seem to understand the likely consequences. US has said they would not support them after Brexit. Again, the technological know how is owned by the Germans. Many companies have moved out of the UK and the latter depends heavily on them to live. Agricultural produce coming from the EU through the Calais port would now be very expensive due to taxes and other charges. That is not all, what of human resources ? To hire a professional from the EU to continue the existing task wouldn't come cheap.

I think the UK is as selfish as ever. I asked a Briton during the heat of the Brexit on wimpole street if he was happy about Brexit and he said nothing is permanent. They had to follow their leaders the way they did during privatisation which has worked so well that other countries are now embracing the model and if Brexit fails , they would have to come back to the EU, though at a heavy price.

He said the main reason for the brexit is the influx of EU's citizens to the UK to pick their citizenship. He said once a refugee enters EU and he or she becomes a resident in any of the EUs, his/her final destination is the uk and because of the agreement, to become a citizen becomes pretty easy and this is taking it's toll on their economy and security already. I wish them good luck but the decision would shake them and I do not see any prospect therein.
Foreign AffairsRe: Brexit: United Kingdom To Exit The European Union On January 31 by alfredilly: 8:43am On Jan 30, 2020
[quote author=Nigsrdumb post=86223199]So if UK exits an economic bloc that they've been reliant on how will they sustaine their economy?

Yeah they need alternatives, like dumb Africa.

After one gets education, one must also get common sense The benefit is mutual. Uk was one of the biggest contributor to the EU. They rely on EU much as EU rely on them
Foreign AffairsRe: Brexit: United Kingdom To Exit The European Union On January 31 by alfredilly: 8:37am On Jan 30, 2020
[quote author=1StopRudeness post=86222758]Nigerians don’t care....u think Nigerians consider all these things....as horrible as the fire of Australia is every year....people are running there....
if a staff of exxon earning 940k can run to Canada with his family..do I need to tell u people aren’t leaving just because they need to...Nigeria has psychologically damaged many people...those with good jobs now are afraid it will still get worse ...religion and ethnicity has messed us up as if they don’t have religion in the US and Canada...
Many are leaving for security, some health care and some for old age cos these advance countries take care of if their senior citizens... a country where it has become a norm for people to die anyhow....

.Abeg Oga leave if u have chance ooo...all these big people in Nigeria call themselves entrepreneurs already have papers to jaapa once it has fully casted..The Op is referring to the recent obsession Nigerian now have with Canada. I think I get his message. Canada is good, no doubt but Nigerian opinion about the country now seems so exaggerated the when you put US side by side with Canada, 90 Percent will choose Canada and that is strange
Foreign AffairsRe: Brexit: United Kingdom To Exit The European Union On January 31 by alfredilly: 8:36am On Jan 30, 2020
1StopRudeness:
Nigerians don’t care....u think Nigerians consider all these things....as horrible as the fire of Australia is every year....people are running there....
if a staff of exxon earning 940k can run to Canada with his family..do I need to tell u people aren’t leaving just because they need to...Nigeria has psychologically damaged many people...those with good jobs now are afraid it will still get worse ...religion and ethnicity has messed us up as if they don’t have religion in the US and Canada...
Many are leaving for security, some health care and some for old age cos these advance countries take care of if their senior citizens... a country where it has become a norm for people to die anyhow....

.Abeg Oga leave if u have chance ooo...all these big people in Nigeria call themselves entrepreneurs already have papers to jaapa once it has fully casted...
The Op is referring to the recent obsession Nigerian now have with Canada. I think I get his message. Canada is good, no doubt but Nigerian opinion about the country now seems so exaggerated the when you put US side by side with Canada, 90 Percent will choose Canada and that is strange

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