₦airaland Forum

cdoffx:
@Dayokanu
well it depends on how you see it like i've posted before Micheal Opkara was marked to be killed but unfortunately he has an international visitor with him,we also know Aguiyi escaped also so it not that some are spared. however not all marked to be killed were corrupt but some has to be sacrificed for peace as Nzeogwu said and we see that its this failure that truly took peace away.
T8ksy
i don't have time for ignoramus like you

LOL I don't even care if they escaped but answer the question

What were Biafrans doing in bendel ?

What were Baifrans doing in Ore ?

Emekamex:
I am not beaf 4 cryin out loud. I am a nigerian that wants to see his country move forward and this wont happen if corruption in fuel subsidy continues.

[size=14pt]No sir you do not want to see the country move forward. You want us backwards

We gave IBB a chance, what did he do

we gave OBJ a chance, what did he do

should we keep giving chances till we die. NO

right now, we want things to be done the right way and not because of sentiment such as "let give him a chance"


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It seems after all the talk, shouting, teaching, lecture, protest, educating, directing,  etc people are doing, some people still don't know why people are angry

1. Yes the system/ government is corrupt. In fact the country is teeming in corruption

2. Yes subsidy has to go and everyone supports the FG for that

3. Before the removal of subsidy, build our refinery so we would not have this same issue in the future. If we have our refineries working, we would not be paying subsidy to anyone and we can control the prices of our crude oil as a Nation.

4. Before removal of subsidy , CUT THE COST OF GOVERANCE not just by 25% because the bulk of the money made in government is not through salaries but be over PRICED projects. An average senator in Nigeria collects more than Obama the american president.

5. Now remove subsidy.

Other things people are protesting for because it was a build up of anger since 1970 and this was the opportunity for a revolution are

1. protest against corruption and the arrest of these people

2. protest against boko haram and killing of Christians/igbos

3. protest against the NEGLIGENT of the Niger-delta

4. Building of the Niger Bridge. Must the bridge collapse before we maintain and build the next ? Since we can save lives, why not do it now.

Now what is the point of thinking ahead when there is still corruption and non-accountability in the government ?

What is the point of thinking ahead when the next administration would tell us about removal of subsidy again ?

IS THINKING AHEAD NOT BUILDING OF REFINERIES ?

Is thinking ahead not protesting against corruption ?


In Nigeria today, we have  No light, No security, No shelter, No good roads, No good water, No refinery even though we are oil producing, Total neglect of infrastructure, Total neglect of the Niger-delta, Total neglect of the Niger bridge, Total neglect of people dying in the North, Lack of accountability, Lack of credibility, Lack of industrial growth apart from Oil which the entire country is dependant on, Lack of economic growth apart from the telecommunication sector by OBJ.

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I would like to educate the people about the politics behind what is happening according to my understanding and I would really appreciate if I can also learn more from other posters home and abroad.

In 2010, Sanusi made speech to the House of reps (HOR) that they were thieves and they are the ones sucking Nigeria dry due to the huge sum of money paid to them monthly. The HOR shut him down and called him all sort of names.

In 2011, Sanusi during the channels debate said 1.6 trillion naira is paid to this people out of 1.8 trillion naira thus 200 billion Naira is left for development of the country.

This people are the senator, governors, HOR, HOA, chairmen and the business men that were labelled as oil benefit thieves.

Now people Imagine 200 billion left for 150 million people in 36 states out of total of 1.8 trillion Naira. Yes I am sure people would agree with me that subsidy has to go !!!!

All am doing here is to make people political aware of the situation right now and lets not forget the Iweala and the IMF factor.

Now people are NOT and I repeat NOT angry at the removal of the subsidy I mean at such rate the paying of subsidy is not sustainable. It has to go at one point or the other, either through GEJ or the next administration. Yes I respect GEJ and Sanusi for thinking ahead of time. That is very commendable but the Issues that cause the subsidy corruption are not yet addressed.

In the future the issue would come up again so what is the point ?.

efisher:
Unfortunately, we are not yet tired of Boko haram talk less of corruption. Hard truth: We are too shortsighted!

who's job is to stop boko haram ?

the people or the leaders ?

why and why and why are people quite about boko haram including the president ?

I mean people are dying every day and yet there are no proper protocol in place to stop boko haram.

Justcash:
@Alj Harem and others; YOU PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP DECEIVING YOURSELVES. IF IT IS ABOUT CORRUPTION;

WHAT IS NLC NEGOTIATING FOR? END TO CORRUPTION?

WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT CALLING FOR THE TRIAL AND CONVICTION OF THE PAST LEADERS THAT PUT US IN THIS SITUATION?

WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT CALLING FOR THE ARREST AND TRIAL OF THE SO CALLED SUBSIDY AND PETROLEUM INDUSTRY CABAL?

WHY IS NLC SAYING 65 OR NOTHING?

KEEP DECEIVING YOURSELVES. YOU ARE PRETENDING AS IF YOU ARE PROTESTING CORRUPTION BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER, WHILE THE MASSES ARE OPENLY DEMANDING FOR ONLY REINSTATEMENT OF SUBSIDY.

WAIT TILL GEJ REVERTS AND SEE IF THINGS WILL NOT GET BACK TO NORMAL.

My brother, before NLC decleared strike, EIE has already started the protest the next day fuel subsidy was removed

It is not about fuel subsidy, let me let you know that it is the people that are out on the streets not NLC

NLC has no power to stop people from working, it is the will of the people

Right now, this is bigger than NLC or is NLC controling those in the UK, USA, FINLAND, SOUTH AFRICA GHANA ETC to protest ?

EIE just needed the people to support them after years of lay back and selfish mentality that has made us dorsal to the corrupt ways of the government. It was a case of a pressure cooker getting to him peak.

did you watch the videos I posted or not ?

Arosa:
There is no water in Naija. I mean fire fighters.  

good for them

shebi they want the masses to suffer by not providing basic things as fire fighters etc

them too go see how people don they die all this dayz

wicked people

People need to watch this video and know why nigerian are tired of the same old corrupt system

watch and learn


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People need to watch this video and know why nigerian are tired of the same old corrupt system

watch and learn


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OP you can also further educate yourself here

People need to watch this video and know why nigerian are tired of the same old corrupt system

watch and learn


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAoLBCmB_Ms&feature=player_embedded[/flash]



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBOFGDFyz1I[/flash]

People need to watch this video and know why nigerian are tired of the same old corrupt system

watch and learn


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAoLBCmB_Ms&feature=player_embedded[/flash]



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OP your thinking is abit shallow

People are not only protesting for subsidy or corruption but also Boko haram, negligent of the Niger-delta, killing of Christians etc. This is way beyond subsidy because subsidy has been removed in the past and there have never been a protest like this. Nigerians have had their cup filled and they are venting out their anger on the government.

It is a shame that you as a Nigerian cannot see this and even foreigner in a world reputable newspaper can see it.

This is the sort of shallow and selfish thinking that has made Nigeria one of the most backward country in the world.

I would urge you poster to investigate and rethink THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING. It is on wikipedia and all over the internet.

You can educate yourself about the protest but one thing I can say is that it has gone beyond fuel subsidy.

afam4eva:
Subscribing. I'll air my mind later.

subscribe to this sort of hateful thread ? A thread that should have been deleted or moved

I hope your air would not be a fuel to reignite the fire

stayreal:
Damn, What is your obsession with Igbos? To no end you people hate us yet fought to keep us in "One Nigeria" and are mad that we excerise our inalienable right as Nigerian citizens to live where we please. I beg, when did Nigeria begin Apartheid?

Also, Igbos are building the East daily. Every Igbo man or woman in the diaspora, whether they be outside Igboland, US, Canada or Europe when they make money, it is reinvested in his of her village, cities and towns. JAMB scores and high literacy rates should tell you that Igbos don't lack in the East.

please brother just ignore the ignoramus. thanks

some people should just be ignored because they want to cause conflict between groups of people.

nanidee:
The man has spoken well.

I noticed some people have actually turned the issue around to become an issue of tribalism.

And like the former minister noted, GEJ did not win the elections only because the ijaw people voted for him. The ijaws should bear that in mind.

The fight is against corruption and bad governance, and not about tribe, because thats where most people get iτ̅  wrong.

very well said, I am tired of this country the way they turn it into ethnic issue so fast

very uneasy country. I must say

Also South-South and Niger-delta youths have dissociated themselves from this madness of supporting corruption just because of ethnicity

Some South-east states as well such as anambra and Imo

"WARRI— FORMER South-South youth leaders, led by erstwhile national vice president of the National Youth Council, Mr. Mumakai-Unagha, have differed with  South-South elders, who, during the  week, declared support for President Goodluck Jonathan on the removal of fuel subsidy.

After an emergency meeting convened in Warri, Delta State, the youth leaders rejected the removal of fuel subsidy.

They said: “President Goodluck  Jonathan should listen to the voice of Nigerians and revert to status quo of N65.00 per litre as the removal of subsidy will further impoverish the down-trodden Nigerians, who  are living from hand to mouth and further enrich the cabal, that are in government.

“The Federal Government should, as a matter of urgency, identify the cabal and they should be brought to book in accordance with the law of the federation.”

The youth leaders said the issue of fuel subsidy “goes beyond ethnic borders

“Mr. President should not put the South – South region in a disadvantaged position in the politics of Nigeria, as the decision on the removal of fuel subsidy has cast a negative image on the entire region,” they added."

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/s-south-youths-disagree-with-elders-over-removal-of-fuel-subsidy/

rhymz:
U these ignorant closet tribalist will you keep your dirty mouth shut?? Which Nigerians see what as an Igbo struggle?? Are you high on kunu?? Why does everything have to be about the Igbo man with you? Seriously, if you have got some hate for the Igbo nation you can come out and state it instead this pretentious closet behaviour.
You are not any different from an average almajiri even with an internet connection u still come across as un-lettered and incapable of complex political intrigue. At least, it is on record and I saw it on AIT too that there were protest in Owerri, Abia and little part of enugu. I know what you wish for is for an Igbo youngstar to lose his life then you can be satisfied, fool. You should also lend your voice in threads that condemn the Hausa/fulani killings of defenceless Igbo people in the north, you hypocritical monkey trying to play the victim.

Don't get me wrong, I am not excluding Igbos or any thing. It seems to me that majority of the comments on blogs and forums are spreading hate for yorubas and hausa/fulani because they are protesting are mostly from Igbos.

Now couple with the Eastern governors and Ohanezes remarks on the issue. It seems they what to tribalsie it.

As you can see, most of the posters even here would rather allow corruption to continue because of tribalsim than stop tribalism

It is a huge shame that PENGASSAN was issued threats because he is not Ijaw.

1luvkipsus:
I think they are more educated than their northern counterparts.

LOL they are more educated and yet they don't know how to protest for their right ?

some of you people are funny

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=838179.msg9963151#msg9963151 date=1326549702]^^^FG never fed Biafrans and Biafrans never asked to be fed by Nigeria, but Awo in his evil deeds advised Gowon on the blockade. Red cross and other charity organizations were stopped from supplying food to the region and Awo championed that idea so get into your head. The blood of the children Awo killed enhanced his suicide. Anyways, I hope you guys are enjoying the country now.[/quote]Blockade but your soldiers were well feed while the children were strvening

were biafra soldiers not evil ?

why did Ojukwu use the food to import weapons. Is he not evil ?

why did Ojukwu feed the soldiers instead of the children and women ?

when Nigerian army got to Port harcourt and asaba, they feed the children Immediatly and gave them water. what did Ojukwu do ? HE RAN AWAY LIKE A COWARD AND LEFT BAIFRANS AT THE MERCY OF THE NIGERIAN AMRY.

is that the sort of people you respect ?

Watch this video, maybe it can educate you more on how the thinking elders viewed ur present day hero

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LeoMax:
@alj harem

I live in the best part of Lagos, bought and paid in cash from cash from Niger Delta. I am prepaid to dash it out and move back to Niger Delta when the cookies crumble.  There are over 200 dialects in the Niger Delta count igbo out of this. This is a regional agitation. We have been marginalized for too long. My roofs at home are rusted because of those 14 oil wells at my backyard.

I laugh at your stu,pididty. I am not here to form internet tough man. You live in the best part of lagos which are ajah, VI, Ikoyi, lekki

is that it ? and those places don't have people in them abi ? Only the rich live there ?

it is already seen as an igbo struggle by the country because Channels, DBN, STV showed protest in delta, calabar, edo etc and words on the streets are saying IGBOS SUPPORT HIM BECAUSE OF TRIBALSIM. even to makurdi and lokoja. down to warri and benin-city.



I repeat kill the PENGASSAN because he wanted to strike and watch the events after that.

Goodluck with your quest on tribalism. But I can assure you once it starts, you people would wish you could reverse time.

Enff said

LeoMax:
Every community in Niger Delta  has people working in all facets of Oil and Gas. When you hear the word militants. There are not like the urchins running the transport sector of Lagos. These are complex persons, many of them graduates.

What does it take to open a flow station and pump the crude into barges and tank farms. there are a lot of vessels waiting to ship out crude. Stop making statements that make you look silly to man with common sense. Pumping oil isnt manual, its like pumping water from your pumping machine but using larger machineries. Should Pengassan leave that place for 1 month, they will beg to have access to the flow stations. Where do you think the Arms seized at Ghana was going to. Pengassan should take time. I wont say more.

you dey stay for abuja or lagos abi ?

Just touch them and see what happens

people have already seen it as igbo against the country. Ask a typical middle belter now.

tlops:
Really?

Yes really

Made adviser and head of campaign when during election

Now The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that the forum has former Governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha as its Chairman.

NemYima:
The So Called Militants are Criminals and Thugs uses by selfish Politicians, I Promise them (Militants) that  Johnathan will use them and dump them. Johnathan is not sincerely to those that voted for him. Below will show and expose how Johnathan is full of greed and Incompetent to rule Nigeria.

1. Johnathan Want Federal University, he therefore Established more to site one in his own backyard
2. He want to Remove Fuel Subsidy because he has proposed to site a Refinery in his Backyard too
3. Johnathan is not Support Creation of more states because he knows that He can't make his Community a State
4. Johnathan refused to implement so many reports by committee set up by Yar'adua because it will benefit him.
5. Johnathan refused to implement the UNEP REPORT ON OGONI because is not his Community or State.
6. Johnathan is most Corrupt President that Nigeria ever produce so far, Check out his bill in the budget.

I AM FROM NIGER DELTA BUT JOHNATHAN IS A DISGRACE TO US THAT WAS AGITATING FOR NIGER-DELTA MAN

+ 100

Can you imagine, and some people are playing ethnic games here

Rad1cal:
Aboki harem, quit this game  
Se na like this you go dey operate  

nah I am not him

If I am anyone, I would mention

kettykin:
@ poster yorubas cannot shut down parts of the economy for more than 3 days , what kind of protest is that, at a point mr tunde bakare was threathening gej to resign, if the oil wells were in yoruba land tinubu/bakare would have forced jonathan out of office. As it the north can not do anything except asking igbos to leave if they had the audacity they could have done worse.

If jonathan fails to create a redundancy in port business then 1 day tinubu or bakare or obj will force him out

is it really about hausa and yoruba or about corruption and boko haram ?

Good one APGA but I thought Peter Obi supported the move.

I am proud of APGA

It is a huge shame that bigotry has killed us in Nigeria. How does increase in fuel price affect only the hausa and the yoruba. It affects every group.

After going through this thread, I am short of words. I would just like to say one last thing

@Olodostain, Kc9000, Ak47mann, anti-yoruba etc

I AM NOT THOSE MONIKERS. I use step1, Alj harem and uche nana because of spam bot

I am not those people.

Olodostein

stop calling my moniker, HE IS NOT ME, YOU DEY CRAZE

HE IS NOT ME, HE IS NOT ME. I DON'T CURSE. MUMU IDEEIOT

HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO PROVE HE IS NOT ME. IDEEIOT

Olodostein:
alj harem  don't want to see Nigeria disintegrate even if it means using himself as a SUICIDE BOMBER. He will do EVERYTHING to keep playing dirty politics.

Didn't you guys notice that he quickly signed in after posting that poo with his NEW moniker.

Be smart. Watch his every move. He is a DEVIL.

if you think he is me, fine then goodluck with ur tought

what is the point, keep deluding urself.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=844885.msg9958340#msg9958340 date=1326482629]This is more pathetic considering the billions that goes in to those states, only to be shared by few corrupt people.
Today in PH, Alhaji Asari Dokubo did a really in support of fuel subsidy removal and he was lucky not be run down by angry youths.[/quote]very good, those are the people destroying our country because of bigotry and greed

the south-south (except baleysa) have made their position clear unless like of beaf want to tell us another thing. LOL

Olodostein:
Who is fooling Who.

Cmon, Guys don't fall for this poo.  Although, I have known this is how the average SS feels about the average igbo man.

merengue ================  alj harem

Be smart folks.

He is a DEVIL incarnate. He uses like 20 monikers!!!!!!!!!!!!

can you shut your mouth. Do you think I would form an ID just to port that crap ?

Do you think I have ever formed an ID just to insult anyone not to talk of Igbo

Do you think I have ever or would ever talk of a group like that ?

YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

Chyz, don't be deceived everyone would suffer irrespective of zone or tribe

Don't let like of Beaf deceive you. The reality is different from  what Beaf an ethnic bigot is trying to portray here.

TRUTHTELLA , philp0675 etc have told you the truth.

Niger-delta youth leader has told you the truth as well, It is up to u to believe or not

enff said


"WARRI— FORMER South-South youth leaders, led by erstwhile national vice president of the National Youth Council, [size=14pt]Mr. Mumakai-Unagha, have differed with  South-South elders,[/size] who, during the  week, declared support for President Goodluck Jonathan on the removal of fuel subsidy.

After an emergency meeting convened in Warri, Delta State, the youth leaders rejected the removal of fuel subsidy.

They said: “President Goodluck  Jonathan should listen to the voice of Nigerians and revert to status quo of N65.00 per litre as the removal of subsidy will further impoverish the down-trodden Nigerians, who  are living from hand to mouth and further enrich the cabal, that are in government.

“The Federal Government should, as a matter of urgency, identify the cabal and they should be brought to book in accordance with the law of the federation.”

[size=18pt]The youth leaders said the issue of fuel subsidy “goes beyond ethnic borders[/size]

“Mr. President should not put the South – South region in a disadvantaged position in the politics of Nigeria, as the decision on the removal of fuel subsidy has cast a negative image on the entire region,” they added."

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/s-south-youths-disagree-with-elders-over-removal-of-fuel-subsidy/

@ merengue

Dude, stop saying rubbish. Crime is across Nigeria irrespective of group or culture. All this ethnic jagons you wrote should be binned and shove up ur a5s Ode, doluwa shege banza

Connoisseur:
Its a embarasing how the fuel subsidy thing[size=14pt] is seen as a yoruba and hausa thing here in the east.[/size]
The feeling down here is that of accomplishment; GEJ's act of wrestling power out of the hausa-fulanis. To most of our people, its actually Biafra war II with GEJ featuring as the new Eze Ndigbo.
The average man on the street has been made to be believe that he actually enjoys none of the subsidy, it is only been enjoyed by the northern elites who used the proceeds in the profileration of arms used to massacre igbos in the north.
This propaganda is actually fueled by the actions of some state governors in the east notably Peter Obi of Anambra state.
For all those arguing that that the easterners are indifferent because fuel sells for more than #100 pre subsidy time, I can tell you its a big lie.
[size=18pt]I personally have been enjoying  #65 all through the SE; from onitsha to owerri to aba to enugu.[/size]

Thank you

[size=14pt]Same here, I have lived in the northern part of Nnewi anambra state and I can tell you that the most rural part petrol was sold for 70 naira. These ideeiot come here on nairaland and start lying to us how they use to buy it for 150 naira before. I dare anyone to show me where petrol was sold for 90 Naira in the East[/size]

Very annoying lying bunch

Kc3000:
What would some people do without Ndigbo? They join you, you are not happy. They leave you, even worse. Listen well, p.hok.e you and your protest, shove it deep into your colon. Why would anyone ever want to be involved in any kind of protest with you tribalistic phukers. You put a tribal spin on everything, and your dark-souls try your hardest to push every Nigerian problem to the door steps of the Igbo. I don't know why it took me so long to realize this; but Yorubas are the problem with Nigeria, and you have stayed true to your M.O here on nairaland. The constant hate, back-biting, and sheer bitterness emanating from these people is absolutely toxic.

yorubas are the problem for not striking ?

the hate etc of the so called yoruba have prevented you from asking the government to protect you against boko haram ?