₦airaland Forum

there is no breaking up

i mean how stupid can you people be

for the yorubas

yorubas are never united,,,,they are only united when they have a common enemy,,,,,,a typical ijebu man does not like the idea of yoruba,,because of there dialect,,,also ebga people have there own believes,,,not to talk of edo,,itsekiri,,,ibadan,,,ekiti,,etc

even the aworis (braziliain people in lagos) would not agree to be second class in this yoruba land



for the northerners

i laugh at my arewa people,,,,the only reason for there unity is because of a common enemy christians mostly southerners,,,also this yoruba people are one of the reason also

once we form an arewa republic,,,it would not survive 6 months because kanuris do not like fulanis,,,,,hausa do not like fulanis because fulanis are ruling them  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a later issue

even fulanis do not like hausa because of the hausaland idea instead of arewaland

nupe people are not northerners nor are they yorubas,,,,they are in the middle so as igala etc

for the igbos

well you know the story

even ngwa clan do not agree with each other not to talk of ogoni,,ibibio,,,,calabar etc

this people can not even talk with one voice in ohaneze not to talk of there own country

at ijaws

ijaws are just jokers  i am sure they think they can form their country without the igbo or itsekiri

ijaws would not even agree with their neighbours itsekiri and igbos not to talk of there own 2 square kilometre of a country,,lol




and do not think we Muslims or northerners are that united,,,then u must be joking,,,,most northerners come and say arewa (together) unity etc this is because we are against southerners,,,most educated northerners do  not even know why iran and other muslim nation are blowing each other up,,,,,,,,fact!!!!!

the point is we can not separate,,,, we need each other,,,,,if we separate we would have bigger problems in own individual republics,,,,,  insisted of shouting separation lets tackle the issue without been biased or saying rubbish

think before you post

Inked_Nerd:

alj harem, please don't mind me. I was just poking fun, so don't worry you haven't offended me . I know what you meant. Although I don't really know you, you seem quite respectful from some of the posts I've seen you write. By the way, I like your profile pic

thank

^^^^

like he pledge to find the abuja bombers

he always pledge but no result

babaearly:
add a map to get more replies.

and yes add maps as a christmas gift from you to us

Musiwa,:
musiwa wish all merry xmax.

becomrich merry christmas as well

hope that 2011 you dream of yorubas in a utopian country with benin republic people would come true

Kobojunkie:
Merry Christmas to you too . . . .  

merry Christmas kobo

@ topic

i support kobo here about us to stop blaming white people

but i do not support jonathan sending troops to ivory coast

why would nigeria of over 250 ethnic group that are not even close to unity talk about invasion,,,,i dey laugh oooo

all ivory coast need to do is to blow up lagos, abuja and port harcount and nijar is over for good

when we do not even have boarder control rebels would just troop in like ants in a honey pot

Ochi_Agha:
Can you give this a rest? No one cares about your little articles. So do us all a favor and stop it.

merry christmas

why are u angry when u have not read the story

Ebenezer Babatope says there is great hope.He believes whatever is happening in the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, today would be resolved one way or the other. He says this is important because there may be an implosion in PDP and its consequences would be disastrous.
But, Babatope makes a very startling disclosure about why the Yoruba leader, Papa Obafemi Awolowo, chose a fellow southerner as his running- mate in a country divided usually along North and South lines. Babatope should know.
At the age of 35, he became the Director of Organisation of the Unity Party of Nigeria, UPN.
Babatope asks: “Did you know that Papa Awolowo contacted some of his trusted friends in the North, requesting that one of them should come and be his running-mate but they turned him down? They rejected, especially those from the Hausa-Fulani clan.
One of them who was Papa’s good friend, Papa Yahaya Gusau, he told Awolowo that it would be meaningless for him to come and be a running-mate because people are not going to vote for us. Papa also contacted the late Ibrahim Tahir and Tahir said it was going to be difficult for him to team up with Papa. Papa then moved to the Middle-Belt states.

Babatope, It is not everything that happens in PDP that I agree with.
He said he would love to pick one Chia Suma. But our UPN colleagues in the Middle-Belt states then advised Papa that if you pick Chia Suma, you would only be appealing to the Tiv people and for every 30 or so miles in the Middle-Belt region, you meet a completely new tribe with different tongues so that choice was never going to achieve anything.
Papa then had to settle for the late Chief Philip Umeadi from Anambra State and said ‘if you guys won’t team up with me, then I can pick any other person from the South’ and when he picked Umeadi, people came up again to say he made a mistake by picking an Ibo man but the reality was that that was what the circumstances demanded.”
He also explains why he “could not just resign from the Abacha administration.”
Excerpts:
Let’s come from the rear: People still wonder what the hell could an Ebenezer Babatope be looking for in the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP?
Very good! First of all, I am convinced that the political party system in Nigeria is devoid of any ideological leaning or orientation. No party can claim to be reactionary or progressive.
All the parties have the same character, but I do believe that PDP has the tendency to be seen as a party which is of the right because of the preponderance of the conservatives who are there but I agree that the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, and Democratic Peoples Alliance, DPA and Alliance for Democracy, AD, are political parties that appear to be wearing the cap of Papa Awolowo.
But, that does not really mean that these parties are also of the same progressive character of the Action Group, AG, or the Unity Party of Nigeria, UPN. There are some elements in PDP that influenced my joining the party during the Babangida transition. There are still those with whom we were together in the Social Democratic Party, SDP, that are in the PDP – Solomon Lar, Yemi Farounbi, Tunde Adeniran and others.
But, having said all that, I must restate that I was driven by circumstances to join PDP.
Which circumstances? Who drove you? I hope you would not be repeating the same thing about the Afenifere leaders?
I agree that my natural place should have been either AD or any party of that character but at the time AD came, many of the leaders of AD were so vicious with the attacks on my person that it became impossible for me to join that party.
For whatever it was, I was the Director of Organisation of UPN in the Second Republic.
I just thought the best thing for me to do was to wait for one year, between 1998 and 1999, before joining my friends in PDP on September 22, 1999.
People may want to reason with you based on what you have said, but it remains incongruous with what they know of you and what they see PDP as representing – without prejudice to what you said about all the parties being the same?
The only thing they can say of PDP is that it has many of the old National Party of Nigeria, NPN, members but you can also count old members of the old UPN, Peoples’ Redemption Party, PRP and the others in this same PDP.
But having said that, I must say this clearly with the best of intentions, for many of them who say I should have been in AD, they are correct but they must examine the background I have given. In any case, all the manifestoes and constitutions of all the three major parties that emerged in 1999 were written by Uncle Bola Ige. But PDP is now fashioning out a new manifesto.
Okay, they drove you away from AD! But some people would say why join PDP? Must you be in any party to contribute to national development?
You see, any politician who does not join a party to me is a politician who is not worth the name. You must show affinity, you must show affiliation.
For instance, it is not everything that happens in PDP that I agree with.
Give an instance of what happens in PDP that you do not agree with?
Let me tell you, when everybody was jumping up and singing that PDP is taking the South-West into the mainstream I questioned it and attacked it because I do not believe in it. What, for instance, is the meaning of mainstream?
May be because UPN or its precursor, AG, could not win at the federal level?
UPN did not just want to stay back in the South-West alone. It was because there were points to prove.
Prove how? I was a boy when Papa Awolowo chose Umeadi as his running-mate. Umeadi, from the South-East; Awolowo, from the South-West; so, what happened to a possible choice from the North?
Good question! Did you know that Papa Awolowo contacted some of his trusted friends in the North, requesting that one of them should come and be his running-mate but they turned him down? They rejected, especially those from the Hausa-Fulani clan.
One of them who was Papa’s good friend, Papa Yahaya Gusau, he told Awolowo that it would be meaningless for him to come and be a running-mate because people are not going to vote for us.
Papa also contacted the late Ibrahim Tahir and Tahir said it was going to be difficult for him to team up with Papa.
Papa then moved to the Middle-Belt states. He said he would love to pick one Chia Suma. But our UPN colleagues in the Middle-Belt states then advised Papa that if you pick Chia Suma, you would only be appealing to the Tiv people and for every 30 or so miles in the Middle-Belt region, you meet a completely new tribe with different tongues so that choice was never going to achieve anything.
Papa then had to settle for the late Chief Philip Umeadi from Anambra State and said ‘if you guys won’t team up with me, then I can pick any other person from the South’ and when he picked Umeadi, people came up again to say he made a mistake by picking an Ibo man but the reality was that that was what the circumstances demanded.
Having said that, you have been part of the system for a while now, when politicians turn down the offer of being a running-mate to another person not because he is not offering a good platform or a good agenda for progress and change but because there is the feeling that he is not of the establishment, what does that say of our nation and its politics?
It’s a very terrible thing, very dangerous and I tell you we have been fighting against it. Awolowo used his position in AG and UPN to prove a point. There was a time in this country that some tendencies were very pervasive and those tendencies appear to be creeping back today.
There was a time in this country when a group of people in the North, a cabal, believed that Nigeria was merely an extension of their private family compound and if you did not belong to them then you cannot make progress.
There was also a time in this country that being in the Army and not being able to speak the Hausa language was a waste of time, the same thing goes for promotion. There was a time in this country that to register a company and do business, you needed to put the name of a northerner as your chairman or a strong member of the board because they believed that the South could always be used. That is not wiped off yet, but we are now seeing semblances of the ugly past.
I have always believed that the zoning principle of PDP can offer solutions to every part of this country to achieve that sense of belonging because particular groups that had always felt alienated from power have the chance to lead. South-West had been president; it went back to the North-West and so it continues in such a way that every part of the country would have a sense of belonging but formerly this was not so and that was the basis of our civil war.
The civil war was fought purely on the ground that many of ‘my people’ have been killed and they have been killed by the Igbo people.
It was not until the coup against Ibrahim Babangida by Gideon Okar, that announced that it was going to sever some states from Nigeria and these states were Hausa-Fulani states and Nigerians rose up to say NO to that coup, that was when the corporate existence of Nigeria was beginning to change. And, that was how an Abiola, a southerner was voted for; an Abiola and Kingibe who were both Muslims were voted for and Obasanjo became President on the basis that he was a South-Westerner.
What I’m saying is that all these things are re-surfacing and they are dangerous for Nigeria’s politics now.
Still on Papa Awolowo, were he to be alive and be dropped into the present political arrangement as it were, would he still be bent on his principles or he would be more pragmatic?
Papa would never have deviated from the principles he believed in. Papa believed very much that first of all, federalism was and is it. He believed that federalism could throw up anybody who had the capabilities to lead the country and not just on ‘it is our turn’ syndrome and were Papa to be alive today, he would have been a hero.
Because all Papa had been saying appears to have been correct because those who are talking about zoning would have now seen that Papa was right. During the Second Republic, some people felt that UPN had been cocooned in the South-West but people have forgotten that in the old Gongola State, now Adamawa, UPN produced the Speaker of the House of Assembly, UPN had two senators – Gius Gelama and Luka Zing; we also won a seat in Imo and we won some seats in other parts of the country but what Papa was advocating was that Nigerians should be able to vote on principles and on ideology.
Nigerians would have seen virtues in what Papa had been saying.
But some people accuse the leaders of Afenifere as being too rigid and that that was why AD could not go far?
I wouldn’t see it that way. Yes, it is true that the leaders of AD were those who had been Papa Awolowo’s associates before and, therefore, you could say yes, these people are very rigid on principles because they’ve seen it all – they’ve seen Nigeria toyed with at some point by a cabal of reactionary elements and feudalists and their belief remain that for Nigeria to progress, there must be progressivism which, in fact, was tried by Awolowo, Aminu Kano, Azikiwe and co.
But you turned out to be a victim but you didn’t like it?
My problem with them at that time was that they sent us to the Abacha government – Lateef Jakande, Mrs. Osomo, Olu Onagoruwa and I, they sent and while we were in government, we were meeting with them until there was a cleavage which came with the local government elections and they felt that the military boys were wrong in hand-picking people of their choice to fill the councils.
That was the point of departure. They wanted to participate from the grassroots but the military guys did not want that. Even some of us in the Abacha government complained, too, explaining that if it was possible to carry our leaders along on the local government matter and if it was democratised, things could change.
That was where the problem started. We are mortals and mistakes may have been made but the viciousness with which they attacked my person was wrong. There were other progressives in that government. It was that same viciousness that they carried into AD but the younger ones among the babas, Segun Osoba, Bisi Akande, Lam Adeshina and a few others felt isolated because they couldn’t understand some of the ideas of the old men and then they picked on Bola Ige, for what reason?
Why? That was what really killed AD.
The position of the babas was simple: ‘We sent you there and we now say, come out of that government’ but you people appeared to be getting more comfortable, so you refused to leave.
Nobody ever said they were wrong in saying that Abacha had deviated from the principles which led us to participate in that government but where they were wrong was that they had forgotten that we were dealing with soldiers. And, therefore, any abrupt termination of our participation in that government could have meant the death of some of us.
A worthy death, for Nigeria’s sake; and wouldn’t you have been said to have died fighting for democracy in your country?
For Nigeria’s sake, you want me to go and die?
You are wasting your time when in fact you have a country where people do not understand the issues for me to resign and then the boys shoot their guns at me?
Let me say this for the first time, by October 1994, it had become apparent that we were going to leave that government. Alex Ibru and I were prepared to leave that administration just as there were other people too, who were prepared to leave at that time but the strategy was that we would leave in a way that the military boys would not see us as obeying their antagonists.
I went on leave by January 1, 1995, and by the time I came back, I had thought that the cabinet would have been dissolved, but it was not as at February, so, I went to my friend, Oladipo Diya, who played a prominent role in getting me into that government to say I may be leaving the administration soon, but Diya said I should hold on.
The widow we saw was the resignation of Malam Adamu Ciroma, who suddenly tendered his resignation letter – I think there was a disagreement between him as Agriculture Minister and the administration over a policy on fertiliser.
But security reports also showed that many more civilian politicians were likely to resign so, Abacha felt that it would be easy for him to just dissolve the cabinet so we went for a meeting one day and he just thanked everybody for assisting his administration and dissolved the cabinet. At that time, if any of us had attempted any precipitous resignation, we would have paid dearly with our lives. Look at what happened to Alex Ibru!
Each time I talk about Ibru, I am always moved to tears.
Alex believed so much in what he was saying to the cabinet that time and he sacrificed a lot to ensure that he succeeded. All he was saying was that the administration needed to give a hearing to what the opposition was saying and that that was the best way to proceed.
There was a day Alex and I were walking inside Aso Rock and Abacha was a bit ahead of us and Abacha turned suddenly and said to me, ‘Comrade, this is NADECO’s ambassador in my government.”
Alex told him that ‘No! You sent me to go and talk to them and I have been talking with them and feeding you back, but that does not in anyway make me a NADECO ambassador.’ What I want to bring out was that shortly after we left, The Guardian was burnt and shut; later, there was an attempt on Alex’s life. I, too, didn’t feel at ease with what was going on.
Something very manifest in what you’ve said now reminds me of what Professor Bolaji Akinyemi said last week and it was to the effect that a section of Nigeria’s leadership does not believe that Nigeria would survive for long and, therefore, there is no commitment to nationhood, so, everybody carries on trying to make the quickest best out of any situation.
I ask that in a cynical manner because you had said you were not prepared to die for Nigeria…
No! No!! No!!! That is not what I mean.
Look, if you die a silly death, a death which is not understood, then it is a silly, stupid, foolish death because if you die and people do not understand what the issues are then you have died for nothing and it amounts to foolishness.
If you’re talking about sacrifices in Nigeria and this is with due respects to other Nigerians who have also sacrificed, I have a 34-year-old daughter who today is handicapped, who, today is at the handicapped school in Ibadan.
This happened when a publication I was involved in attacked the decision of Yakubu Gowon not to handover again. My wife was pregnant and I had fled while the military mounted a siege on my residence for two weeks – they stayed with my wife. The trauma for a pregnant woman was so devastating that by the time she delivered, the baby had become what they call paraplegic, which was said to have been due to a shock.
I was sent out of my work and as I speak to you today, I have not collected any gratuity. The military administration of Obasanjo made that possible and till today, there is nothing to show for my service to my country as a worker. So, when people talk about sacrifices, I have sacrificed. That does not in any way mean that there are no Nigerians alive or dead who have also sacrificed even in worse manner.
But, if I were to die on the basis of the NADECO people who were saying we should just resign, my death would not have been very clear to Nigerians and it would have been nothing but a foolish, miserable, wretched, silly death.
Some people believe that the problem of Nigeria is PDP. Do you agree?
I don’t agree that the problem of Nigeria is PDP.
I do agree that PDP has got lots and lots of contradictions within it.
I also agree that PDP has got a preponderance of conservative elements in there, just as other parties too.
The only thing is that because PDP has been in power for so long it has generated a revenge mentality and, therefore, PDP must now ensure that it allows for broader participation of the masses of people within the party in its activities and that is why I am very much in love with Jonathan’s proclamation that every vote must count but all the other political parties, too, must sign on.
The opposition parties are largely unorganised and they, too, do not have unity too. Look at Lai Mohammed of ACN, he talks about the issues.
So, what stops PDP from doing that or having somebody like that? What is stopping the PDP from doing that?
Are you asking me?
No, I’m just thinking aloud.
But, that does not in anyway mean that what ACN is doing is correct.
I’m happy you used the word, proclamation of Jonathan but some people have their doubts about his intentions to deliver free and fair elections. And, I’m sure you would agree with me that internal democracy would be the bedrock of that free and fair election next year?
Yes, you’re correct about that.
But, what some people are seeing is that there seem to be this hand-in-hand relationship between President Jonathan and the leadership of PDP and this appears to be sending the wrong signals.
It’s a wrong feeling.
But, would you blame the people who are thinking like that?
Let me tell you. For instance, now, we are having contradictions regarding the issue of zoning because you have a segment of the Northern sector insisting that zoning has not been adhered to and that sector is a very important sector because in the history of this country you cannot just wish away that sector. Adamu Ciroma, Lawal Kaita are names involved in political developments in this country that has remodeled it.
Second, the South-South – and that is why PDP is saying that we agree that zoning is there but we cannot stop an incumbent President who also has constitutional rights from seeking the office of the President.
We have got to contend with that matter but fortunately, there are plans in PDP to bring everybody together and failure to do that would signal disaster for our party and everybody is conscious to have peace.
If we are not careful, we may likely end up having a Muhammadu Buhari, with his Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, becoming President by default. That would not be good for this country because we know how he just put everybody in detention when he took over. We do not want those tyrannical hands again.
Your party is the problem. In a situation where you have over 72 per cent of the federal legislature, of the state legislature, state executives as well as the Federal Government yet, people are saying that Nigeria does not appear to have achieved or met that irreducible minimum per development since 1999…
You cannot just blame PDP because the power base of the country is in its hands. You must look at the other side too. The opposition parties are not serious.
Why would they be serious when PDP continues to infiltrate their ranks?
I’ve always maintained that there can be an implosion in PDP and, therefore, the opposition parties must show seriousness.
By the time we go for elections, you would discover that it is only the PDP that would have sufficiently mobilised for the elections. The opposition will never come together and they have their own conception of how power should be won.
ACN is emphasising on the South- West and the judiciary is continuing to give it to them. Why can’t they come together? Before Yar’Adua’s death, he set the machinery for free and fair election in motion and President Jonathan has continued.
But a situation where it is perceived that PDP does not want every vote to count how do we handle that?
Let me tell you something: I am worried about this slogan of every votes must count because in all the states controlled by the opposition, all the elections that have been organised since the other parties took over have been won by the government in power, so this slogan of every votes must count frightens me some times and yet the opposition parties continue to shout every votes must count.
It is because every vote counted that was why they were able to win…
Ah! Don’t say that because I have been in this game for some time now. We know what is happening. I am begging the politicians to allow every vote to count.
The slogan must radiate throughout the country.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/12/how-the-north-denied-awolowo-a-running-mate-by-babatope/

fash my man

humble man indeed

did tinubu ever did this when he was in power

I tried, I did everything humanly possible to get the government involved in this. But the PDP is not interested in solving the problem. until the soldiers come to kill them all.

And another major problem is the religious leaders in Nigeria are very misleading. Muslim or Christain. It has become all making money, buying new cars and private jet. So anything that will stop them from making money, they will not listen. It is that money, greed. even though their lives are in danger.

They are willing to make false prophecy to keep the country together so they can continue to milk the rest of Nigeria. Is all about, do you pay your tithe and offering, otherwise you will die. they'll tell you reject God. some churches are focusing on tithing and the offer they would not let you do a wedding in their church if you do not tithe to them. Basically, he is greedy.

When greed blinds people. it is difficult to pass. that create a wall and look for excuses and even lie that God has said Nigeria will remain forever.


The question is, if we review the situation based on satellite images of people dying. You must have heard of Al Mustapha, nigeria version of Chemical Ali. We have a lot of them in the north and south.
What people will see this picture and they will translate into violence.

If we had a good government that we should have address the issue now. but the government continues to tell lies, including Mark and David Bankole. They think they are the games, they do not know they play with their own lives. I dey canada, cannot nigeria ball hit me. It's just your life, I want to save.

If we had a good president, he and others should have raised the issue and discuss the way forward. But he is more concerned about how he would remain in power.

You see we need to look at the solution we can implement quickly, it would not take too long before the Civil War. I told you withdraw Edo, Delta and Yoruba of Benin Republic. you can do it in secret. And when they discover it is too late to go back. You do not have to make noice about it. simple step by step integration.

You do not have to tell them, you sign the paper. You open the borders. And over time, they would not know. Not everything, you have to say to the people.

Over time, the money would be the same in both countries and any other thing would be to integrate over time. Sign on paper and open the border and did not tell them.


it has nothing to do with any oba.? This is a government discussion of the government. I made the effort, I wrote Yar Adua, Bankole, Mark David and most senators and House on the issue. But the leaders of Nigeria are very hungry you money blind people in Nigeria, even if their lives at risk.

I even went through in 2007 in New York to see yar Adua and Chief George bode well to show them the pictures. But I was not able to see adua yara because of the UN conference, but I saw the Chief Bode George. but Chief Bode George was not too much time to discuss it. you know the whole story now, he ended up in jail. Because there are forces in Nigeria who want to sweep it under the carpet and they are willing to kill for it for ethnic reasons. And they have killed for it already. I do not want the event name. Some people have been murdered.

They even launched a propaganda war online, which explains why nairaland looks the way it is. So, once you get to post a satellite photo of the truth. They are already waiting in line 24 hours a day just to discredit Nigeria. some of them are paid for writing online 24 hours that I do not know.

isreal is now examining how, after several years, the Yoruba would discover, they are in the Republic of Benin. just open the documents and the Benin Republic border sign that Edo, Delta and Yoruba, including the state of Kwara, Kogi and are part of the Republic of Benin.

If you do this must first think of them first, they cheat, they would get a passport from Benin Republic, because the border is open. they think they are a quick game on the Republic of Benin, you know how are Nigerians.

but over time they start using the passport, just look the other way. because there is a river Niger on the other side.

Until the border is open, they begin to use the same currency, and do things together, before they know they are in the Republic of Benin. most of them do not attend school.

What you do not know does not kill you.
you make me laugh, you people are spiritually blind.
And lead by people who have spiritual problems /

Then this image of Yar Adua not you remember my story.
God is trying to show you the line to line. Step by step, but your not listening cœyour harden. Until they kill you all.
The reason is that Satan has blinded some of your Nigerian leader, even some of your pastors of the church have been blinded by satan. Satan is controlling some of them, so you cannot have all seen.

Do you remember Yar Adua. I went to New York to see, look, I did everything to see yar adua personally, even one of his aides trying to show me Turai. But I had to return to Canada the next day.
If this image does not speak to you, what else.


Jonathan came to Canada earthquark,

warning Haiti, earthquark.

Even what happened in Ivory Coast should be a lesson for you. But Satan has so blinded your eyes, greed has taken over the government and even church. Some pastor on the altar and tell lies to their congregations. Satan is so evil. because he loves blood.

as the Yoruba would say I am Awon Iya himself. You know what they call iya or AIYE in Yorubaland.
They will drink your blood, at the last they drink a lot of blood in Nigeria, Nigeria's civil war. 40 years ago. Open your blind eyes to your satan leadereyes. even some of your pastors are spiritually blind

Remember Yar Adua.

Musiwa,:
J'ai essayé, j'ai fait tout ce qui est humainement possible pour amener le gouvernement intervenir dans ce. Mais le PDP ne s'intéresse pas à résoudre le problème. jusqu'à ce que les militaires viennent de tous les tuer.

Et un autre problème majeur est la religion des dirigeants sont très trompeurs au Nigeria. Soit musulman ou christain. Il est devenu d'autant faire de l'argent, l'achat de voitures neuves et de jet privé. Alors tout ce qui va les arrêter de faire de l'argent, ils ne veulent pas écouter. Il est que l'argent, la cupidité. alors même que leurs vies sont en danger.

Ils sont prêts à faire fausse prophétie à garder le pays uni afin qu'ils puissent continuer à lait du reste du Nigeria. Est tout au sujet, avez-vous payer votre dîme et offrant, sinon, vous allez mourir. ils vous diront Dieu vous rejetez. certaines églises sont donc se concentrer sur la dîme et l'offre qu'ils ne seraient pas vous laisser faire un mariage dans leur église si vous ne payez la dîme pour eux. Fondamentalement, il est gourmand.

Lorsque la cupidité aveugle les gens. il est difficile de passer. qui créent un mur et comparer excuse et même mensonge que Dieu leur a dit le Nigeria restera pour toujours.


La question est, si nous ne réviser la base situation sur le satellite des images de gens mourraient. Vous devez avoir entendu parler de Mustapha Al, version nigeria de Ali le chimique. Nous avons beaucoup d'entre eux dans le nord et dans le sud.
Ce gens vont voir cette photo et ils vont se traduire en violence.

Si nous avions un bon gouvernement que nous devrions avoir régler la question maintenant. mais le gouvernement continue à dire des mensonges, y compris Mark David et Bankole. Ils pensent qu'ils sont les jeux, ils ne savent pas qu'ils jouent avec leurs vies propres. Je dey canada, balle de dévers nigeria m'a frappé. Il est juste votre vie, je veux sauver.

Si nous avions un bon président, lui et d'autres devraient avoir soulevé la question et de discuter de la marche à suivre. Mais il se préoccupe davantage sur la façon dont il resterait au pouvoir.

Vous voyez que nous devons examiner la solution que nous pouvons appliquer rapidement, il ne tiendrait pas trop longtemps avant la guerre civile. Je vous ai dit retirer Edo, Delta et Yorubas de la République du Bénin. vous pouvez le faire en cachette. Et quand ils découvrent, il serait trop tard pour revenir en arrière. Vous n'avez pas à faire noice à ce sujet. simple étape par étape d'intégration.

Vous n'avez pas à leur dire, vous signez le papier. Vous ouvrez les frontières. Et avec le temps, ils ne sauraient pas. Pas tout, vous avez à dire au peuple.

Avec le temps, l'argent serait le même dans les deux pays et toute autre chose serait d'intégrer avec le temps. Inscrivez-vous sur papier et ouvrir la frontière et n'avez pas le leur dire.


cela n'a rien à voir avec une quelconque oba.? Il s'agit d'un gouvernement de discussion du gouvernement. J'ai fait l'effort, j'ai écrit adua Yar, Bankole, Mark David et la plupart des sénateurs et de la Chambre sur la question. Mais les dirigeants du Nigeria sont très gourmands vous, les gens l'argent aveugles au Nigeria, même si leurs vies en danger.

Je suis même allé jusqu'au bout en 2007 à New York pour voir adua yar et chef George bon augure pour leur montrer les images. Mais je n'étais pas capable de voir adua yara en raison de la conférence des Nations Unies, mais j'ai vu le chef Bode George. mais le chef Bode George trop n'avait pas autant de temps pour en discuter. vous savez toute l'histoire maintenant, il se retrouvent en prison. Parce qu'il ya des forces au Nigeria qui veulent balayer cela sous le tapis et ils sont prêts à tuer pour elle pour des raisons ethniques. Et ils ont déjà tué pour elle déjà. Je ne veux pas nom de l'événement. Certaines personnes ont déjà été assassinés.

Ils ont même lancer une guerre de propagande en ligne, ce qui explique pourquoi nairaland regarde la façon dont il est. Donc, dès que vous arrivez à poster la photo satellite de la vérité. Ils sont déjà en attente en ligne 24 heures par jour pour le discréditer vient du Nigeria. certains d'entre eux écrit sont payés pour être en ligne 24 heures par qui je ne sais pas.

examiner comment isreal est maintenant, après plusieurs années, les Yorubas serait découvrir, ils sont en République du Bénin. il suffit d'ouvrir les documents de la frontière Bénin et la République signe que Edo, Delta et yoruba, y compris l'Etat de Kwara, Kogi et font partie de la République du Bénin.

Si vous faites cela doit d'abord d'entre eux pense tout d'abord, ils trichent, ils allaient obtenir un passeport République du Bénin, car la frontière est ouverte. ils pensent, ils sont un sur le jeu rapide République du Bénin, vous savez comment sont nigérians.

mais avec le temps, ils commencer à utiliser le passeport, il suffit de regarder dans l'autre sens. car il ya un fleuve Niger de l'autre côté.

Tant que la frontière est ouverte, ils commencer à utiliser la même monnaie, et faire des choses ensemble, avant qu'ils le savent, ils sont en République du Bénin. la plupart d'entre eux, ne vont pas à l'école.

Ce que vous ne savez pas ne pas vous tuer.
vous me faites rire, vous les gens sont spirituellement aveugles.
Et le plomb par des gens qui ont spirituellement problème /

Puis cette image de Yar Adua pas vous rappeler de mon histoire.
Dieu essaye de vous montrer la ligne à la ligne. Étape par étape, mais votre cœyour durcir n'écoute pas. Jusqu'à ce qu'ils vous tuer tous.
La raison en est satan a aveugles certains de vos dirigeant nigérian, même certains de vos pasteurs de l'église ont été aveugle par satan. Satan est le contrôle de certains d'entre eux, c'est pourquoi vous avez tous vu dévers.

Vous souvenez-vous adua Yar. Je suis allé à New York pour le voir, regardez, j'ai tout fait pour voir adua yar personnellement, même un de ses aides essayer de me faire voir Turai. Mais j'ai dû revenir au Canada le lendemain.
Si cette image ne vous parle pas, quoi d'autre.


Jonathan est venu à earthquarke Canada,

avertissement Haïti, earthquarke.

Même ce qui est arrive en Côte-d'Ivoire devrait être une leçon pour vous. Mais satan a tellement aveugler vos yeux, la cupidité a pris le relais du gouvernement et même l'église. Certains se pasteur sur l'autel et dire des mensonges à leur congrégation. Satan est si mal. parce qu'il aime le sang.

comme les Yorubas dirais Awon Iya fe me je. Vous savez ce qu'ils appellent iya ou AIYE chez les Yorubas.
Ils vont boire votre sang, lors de la dernière-ils boivent beaucoup de sang au Nigeria, la guerre civile du Nigeria. Il ya 40 ans. Ouvrez votre satan yeux aveugles a votre leadereyes. même certains de vos pasteurs sont spirituellement aveugles

Rappelez-vous adua Yar.

wething be this

becomerich you are from benin republic

hoba:
I do not want to ever hear of this name again, he is but a criminal, a big thief a local and tribal . That is the reason he killed himself because he knew he is evil. Please let us talk of better things jo.

look u will hear that name till you kill yourself like him

Fact!!! And I am igbo

omongbatib:
Did not their father Oduduwa fell from the sky to meet already existing Igbos on earth?

dumb again

Obiagu1:
Copied

When you people moved down south, away from your cousins, the Kanuri?

yes ooooooooooooooo

Andre Uweh:
The Ohanaeze believe in peaceful existence of other ethnic groups. Go through the post once again. In the formation years of Ohanaeze, leaders of this groups who tend to differ were part of the organisation. The 1948 Conference of the Igbo body was held in Port Harcourt.

andre i think u should tell omonigati to get of your thread,,, he is just derailing ur thread without any meaningful contribution  

Mr.Chyz:
Bingo!Gbam!Gbosa!!!

omongbatib:
How does having Egbe Omo Oduduwa, OPC, Afenirefe YCE, Yoruba unity forum, etc, etc,  translate to unity?

so if yorubas and northerners are not united, it means we igbos should not unite

you 2, i do not know why you guyz make yorubas as your yard stick which u use to measure our igbo nation

you are a disgrace to the igbos of this world

did you know how we were before that useless war,,,,, we were great people just like most yorubas feel now

you 2 make yorubas and northerners feel they are more superior than us everytime u comment silly

omongbatib:
You are Jason and you are Yoruba

mumu pls do not derail the thread,,,,,you give us igbo bad name on nairaland

Andre Uweh:
At the moment, there is no division in Ohanaeze. There were divisions during the days of Achuzia on one hand and Ikedife on the other hand. At the moment Uwechue is in control and has an able Secretary-General-Nduka Eya from Nsukka. They now speak with one voice.

thank God

now the next step is to try not impose or force people to let them see there igbo part of them from ika to ikwerri etc

andre, we can achieve that by electing someone good in igbo state and repairing those states

afterward, people that would want to live in those state would state to see there igbo side or would relate to igbo more

thirdly,,,, other non-igbo group per-say would want to associate themselves with igbo.

then, we can talk of politics on the national level,,,,,,

andre what do you think

i do not care about jason

all i care about right now is us igbos

is jason igbo

omongbatib:
Does Tinubu speak for Yorubas?
Does Afenifere speak for Yorubas?
Does Obj speak for Yorubas?

Is there any one person/small group of persons who can speak for everyone?
Is the North united in fighting Jonathan?

as i said earlier do not bring yorubas or northerners to this issue

how can us igbos be using yorubas or northerners as a yard stick,,,,,how can we aim higher

omongbatib:
Here we go again!!!!
How many Yoruba groups are there? At least 6, and did I not show the great division among the these Yoruba leadership groups only just recently? How can this people suffer from short memory like this? Oma se o!

you see that is why i do not like you at all you give us igbos bad names

what does yoruba have to do with this thread

just be serious for once

omongbatib:
The fact that the Ohaneze leader is from the SS speaks volume about Igbo unity
Also the late Senator Ellah of Ellah lakes fame was Ohaneze leader amd he was from Ahoada in Rivers state.

i do not think because he is from the south-south means there is unity

was biafra name not coined by an ijaw man

also does this man speak for his people(south-south igbo)

@ andre uweh

i reason with you here, and i know what point of view u are coming from

i support you,,,,,because we all brother but ohaneze has to firstly settle there internal war between themselves in the organisation,, also they have to bring a sense of unity not that 1 person would say A and another in this same organisation would say B it does not make sense

but i think we have to work with ohaneze on this because i think they are still immature in there thinking on internal politics

or what do you think

omongbatib:
alj harem, what?

well, i have nothing to say,,,,, you are a disgrace to us igbo round the world

why are u battling against yorubas for nothing (nairaland) so if you win what do you gain

grow up man, am sure u are a 12-16 yrs old boy just like willy-willy so grow up, i mean c'mon

why do you insult the yorubas for nothing,,,,,why do you calling me jason

i think this yoruba phobia you have is getting to your head

the yorubas in this thread should just stop posting

my igbo brothers have started again

omongbatib:
Tell that to your fellow air-brained ngbatis
You are alj harem.

i think you are going crazy

and how am i jason

do not put me in this silly game you are playing small boy

jobless person

just do not involve me

Ochi_Agha:
Yorubas seem to be uniting I must say. Why can't we Igbos do that with APGA? Ojukwu was right to say that you cannot impose a leader on the Igbo. Prior to Biafra you could, but now things have fell apart. I weep for the Igbo nation. Where is our unity? The war has really impacted the Ndigbo, more than I previously have though.

to be honest, i do not care about yoruba and ACN

to answer your question, look at the way we igbos are first of all portraying ourselves on this forum,,,,,,,,,we do not even talk with 1 voice not to talk of policies.

kalu uzo has said what we need, but we are just to blind to listen to him  

yes kalu is a thief but he has said the truth,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.sad indeed

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=623438

and also this poster

my brothers have started again with their views

pls can you change the title or close this thread because my ibo brothers have started with e-war again

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-574259.0.html

and also ban anyone with tribal sentiment,,,,pls ban this man

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=307611

Mr.Chyz:
Criminal means Tinubu in yoruba. How can the blind lead the blind.Crooks in the continuation.ACN the progression of a new crook organization.damn yorobos

chyz when did you change,,,,,,,u are becoming so unreasonable

well keep it up, it is good for you (silly person)

angelo5uk:
YOU GUYS ARE ALL BIG F, O.OLS,
IS ENGLISH OUR OWN NATURAL LANGUAGE, ?
NA SO INA CARRY OYINBO MAN PROPERTY FOR HEAD,
THE WHITE MAN HAS BRAIN WASHED YOU AND NOW YOU VALUE THE WHITE MANS LANGUAGE THAN YOUR OWN MOTHER TONGUE
IF A NIGERIAN DOES NOT SPEAK HIS OWN LOCAL LANGUAGE WELL YOU GUYS WONT COMPLAIN BUT IF HE MAKES A TINY ERROR IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE YOU ALL WILL SHOUT, AS IF THE WHITES MAN LANGUAGE IS MORE PRECIOUS THAN OUR OWN LANGUAGE,
IF I WERE TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY TODAY?,
I WILL PUT IT AS A RULE THAT YOU MUST PASS AT LEAST ONE NIGERIAN LOCAL LANGUAGE BEFORE YOU O;LEVEL WILL BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE,
BIG FO, O.LS

i think since english is the national language, she is meant to speak that language properly

so what are you talking about

Rhino.5dm:
please can someone give me the reason why the eastern states refuse voting for him or his party when he was contesting for presidency?

I see alot of support and well wishing flying hypocritically here and i never remember him triumph in any election. Or have i missed anything? ?

>>>He is a great man, good man to his people.

some of us igbos are not as daft as this people

Why should even an iediot vote for a coward

Ochi_Agha:
alj harem, you are a jobless . You have been posting nonstop all day. Don't you have responsibilities? No real Igbo man spends his whole day doing nothing. That is another sign, that you are not one of us.

and ur point is
Yes I am retired now and I can post all day and night