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igbo2011:
@kobojunkie
The Congo government are puppets to the wet.  Here is proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM7bexchwG8&feature=youtu.be
Equitorial Guniea government is a puppet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dvZyyDxFVI
John Perkins used to work for the US government and then he wrote a book talking about some things that he did like helping corrupt presidents and overthrowing governments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0JCJ4pIFEw
John Perkins was just one man but there wer other men doing hte same thing in Africa, middle East, Asia etc.
CIA killing Patrice Lumumba:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp7oSU2reys
Somalia's government overthrown: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/12/somalia-revisited/7227/

The famine was caused by America because everytime Somalia was about to get a government then they were overthrown.  The American powers wants to keep it's power.  It sees China as a threat. World Bank, IMF and WTO are owned by America.

Dude America has been doing this since the 1940s.  America OWNS Haiti and over throws their government atleast 3 times.

Most of this stuff is out there in public view be people would rather hold onto their delusional views that things will get better someday. Look i'm sorry but its time to take the bull by the horn. If our genereation dont do it, the up coming generation will never give us the respect we deserve because i'm pretty certain that this upcoming generation will not tolerate this nonsense

tpia@:
I mean killing leaders accomplished nothing besides more violence.

I agree, but most of them are going to get shot, hanged or rot in prison at some point; the culprits will not go unpunished. The sooner citizens wake-up, the better

alj_harem:
African leaders are easy to influence because the people are not united so it is easy to remove the leader and put a new one there if their instructions are not met.

sad but simple.

Solution :- Nigeria should not separate because it would even be a lot easier for them to manipulate us better in our individual region or countries since there wouldn't be any scapegoat like IBB and co again but now the individual leaders would be causing inter ethnic battle and before you know it, the each country is in a civil war.

2. arrest them equally.

3. Vote for a detribalised Nigerian !!! Not a president that said "igbos voted for me in the north" Who cares who voted for who ? do your job

4. Nigerian should , see signs of these things

Totally

Kobojunkie:
@Poster, what proof do you have that they are easy to influence, I mean apart from conjecture and the lot. What proof do you have that African leaders are easy to influence?

What is the reason behind the fact that Libya didnt enjoy the full AU support?

@op Consciousness is Immaterial - Not formed of matter

simmy:
This is a carelessly asked question
What is consciousness?
How do you know you are conscious?
Let me explain further/,  a dreaming man might be fully convinced he is conscious in his dreams but later awakens into reality.
Are we conscious?
Is my dog conscious?
What is reality?
come to think of it, what isnt reality?, or what is it that reality is not?
Whatever!

Consciousness is that which determines ones awareness of self!

Are we conscious? I'm afraid we would all have to be telepathic to be able to even attempt to answer that in its true context. The question is, Are YOU conscious?

What is reality?
Reality is the platform in which consciousness operates; that is to say, it is ones consciousness that determines if anything/anyplace is indeed REAL. Thats why your example of the dreaming man is not divorced form consciousness as is the notion of sub-consciousness, semi-consciousness e.t.c

@op NO

But is all part of an elaborate ploy to try and justify nowadays war thirsty tyrants,

D sage:
Non of American president,France or British pm u mention ar dictators,jst check der history,American usually eliminate/attack wat eva serve as a threat to der system. Libya wasnt invaded by britain/france but by d organisation called NATO wch comprised many nation 4m Europe&north America,

Are you serious? Please be careful what you ask for, you said live on NL that one should check the history of America, France and British rulers,  Well lets start from,

How about we start from Libya. Libya was invaded by a quartet (America, France, British & Italy) of countries (some of which you just mentioned) even though it was a somewhat unpopular descision in their respective countries. Let me remind you that the mandate given to Nato came after the quartet  failed woefully to gain any ground internally.


Firstly, the main reason that UN acted upon to issue a NO FLW ZONE was the allegation that Ghadafi had droped a bombed on a town in the heart of Libya killing hundreds of innocent people. This allegation was unfounded; the Russian that had a satelite orbiting that region stated that that information was incorrect.

Secondly, the infamous NO FLW ZONE (infamous as in i dont think they bothered setting one up, why bother when they can just rush towards Tripoli instead) was concucted in order to aparently defend the lives of civilians so that Ghadafhi doesnt kill them all over night; apart from the fact that that was wishfull thinking (as in Ghadahi loved the people of Libya he wouldnt have attacked his own people even if he was paid to), the quartet, NATO and their mercanaries invaded Libyan soil in contradiction of the UN resolution that dispatched them. And the most astonishing thing about it all is that the main reason that the quartet took up this position was to defend Libyan civilians; well, well well,  Dont you think they did a fantastic job at doing that given that the number of civilians that the combine forces of the quartet, NATO and their mercenaries killed is estimated in excess of 100,000.

Who's the dictator in that scenario?

D sage:
A leader who rule a country by force or wit absolute power is called dictator.

Name me a ruler (president, prime-minister or monach) that doesnt fall into that definition

With the genuis and the higly trained, there remains a thin line between physical tricks and miracles and magic. I agree with the mystiques in magic and miracles eventhough in my opinion they can actually be one and the same thing.

otitokoro1:
I was priviledge to attend a programme in Senegal sometime i.e "Pan African Youth Forum" I met some number of Youths from Egypt and they are performing some simple magics. I so inquisitive asked them if they are Magicians, they said no, magic is a skill that interested person can learn. They even offered to teach me some basic ones but I was afraid.

Magic is perceieved differently depending on who you approach; the professional magician is merely an artist/entertainer that makes use of trickery. Whilst there is the mystic side of things that people also tend to call magic.

If magic answered to colour it would probably be see-through (as in colourless).

what is the meaning of OP? Original post?

Woud I sanctioned the Abortion of  A Fetus That Will Grow Into A Severely Mentally Handicapped Kid?

No, never in a million years

Eeh!!! what kind of nonsense are these guys getting up2 nowadays. Let the task force do their job abi! No be fight, most hausas are considerate citizens especialy when it comes to security! i think the ones fighting the task force have to be rougue elements surely,

I wish Nigeria would shed her past and step up to take her rightful position on the world stage (and i also wish all her corrupt politicians are struck with continous thunder & lightning bolts until they pass away; giving room for her youth for a change)

This question is a spin-off from an on going NL topic that you can find here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-767988.0.html even one of the early posters suggested this exact topic.

I f you asked me this same question five years ago i would have given you an altogether different response as opposed to know.

In answering this question, one would pretty much obliterate the lies that the crusaders took back home in an attempt to try an justify their horific crimes.

The first myth i will like to shatter once and for all is that of the notion that the first black Africans to travel to the Americas were those sold into slavery! There is nothing further from the truth, there is evidence that provides an epistle of data regarding the trade of goods between black Africans and the Americas dating back to 5000 - 3,000 B.C.E. There was an influential trading spot along the river Niger (yes the same river that the fool named Mungo Park claims to have discovered).

Many may not know but black Africans owned the first ever civilised communities, much of this evidence lives till date, you just need to know where to look and what to look for.

In short, Africa is the cradle of humanity, civilization, philosophy, physical sciences, commerce, metarlurgy, agriculture e.t.c

philip0906:
who is this senile mullar?have u met me b4?pls waka pass if u no get reasonable comment

Hey! my question wasnt meant as an attack on you but the truth, i'm no atheists yet they dont have me wishing they never existed neither.

Dede1:
I am afraid if people who referred to Africa as black and Africans as black people know more than ant. No human being is either white or black. Again earth has one race and it is human race.

Absolutely, i agree with you totally

I only used this to terms in connection so as to give the reader a comfortable ride; i meant no offence.

Arosa:
John Hanson (d. c. 1860) was an African American associated with the American Colonization Society, which sought to relocate black Americans in Liberia. In Liberia, he served as a senator from Grand Bassa County.
Senator Hanson has recently been confused with an earlier John Hanson, a white politician from Maryland who served as President of the Continental Congress during the American Revolution. According to this urban myth, John Hanson of Maryland was actually black, and also the first President of the United States. Internet sites promoting the hoax use the photograph of Senator John Hanson of Liberia to support the claim, even though photography had not yet been invented when the earlier John Hanson was living.

Point taken

Africa is the cradle of humanity, civilization, philosophy, physical sciences, commerce, metarlurgy, agriculture, Pretty much all the core recipes of civility.

The greatest mistake the war mongering crusaders made was assuming that if they attempted to get rid of the evidence of black African history then they'll be free to create it themselves.

This assumption was admitedly witty but more importantly was always doomed for failure.

Africa is the cradle of humanity, civilization, philosophy, physical sciences, commerce, metarlurgy, agriculture, Pretty much all the core recipes of civility.

The greatest mistake the war mongering crusaders made was assuming that if they attempted to get rid of the evidence of black African history then they'll be free to create it themselves.

This assumption was admitedly witty but more importantly was always doomed for failure.

It just amazes me to see all these arguements full of vigour on issues that you hardly know enough about. Dont get me wrong, i'm not dissing the core values of either the quran nor the bible but all the jargons that surrounds them. For instance  the bible and the quaran share many things in common and the most common thing that they share is what i will simply refer to as "propaganda".

This type of written propaganda contains sublets like subliminal messages e.t.c (i'm not going to get into to that right now) And you all are exposing yourselves(souls) to it; imagine you are reading text that says day & night without end that you are worthless, you do not amount to anything, we are meant to be better than you, we are the chosen ones you can go and quench and you are not concerned with this but blindly sign your lives away. Sometimes i ask myself if many of you havent been exposed to hypnosis.

We have given you all the evidence, all the proof that you are facing the wrong way; come back home. Respect your enviroment, respect your elders, respect your divinities, respect your household, respect your ancestors, respect your culture, respect your traditions, respect yourselves.

All you want to do is argue over and embrace a form of philosophy that was used to enslave, kill, mame, violation, torture millions of people around the world. When you go to the movies, you choose to watch bruce-lee instead of brave-heart.

Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW.

Its time for black Africans to reclaim our rightfully deserved place on the world stage, Nigeria ruled the world centuries ago and we have all we need in our possession to repeat such feat. Wake-up, wake-up, snap out of this dream you are in. Wake-up; i beg of you,  WAKE-UP

Look at Brazil they are a super power now, Wake-up, wake-up,  please wake-up, Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW.Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW.Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW.Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW.Wake up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is nigh, wake-up, wake-up the time is NOW. Snap out of  this dream you are in and WAKE-UP.

Is The Genesis Creation The First Ever Creation Story?

No!

Is The Genesis Creation The Second Creation Story?

No!


Is The Genesis Creation TheThird Creation Story?

No!

Infact i dont think it ranks in the top 1,000

bin gbagbo:
So how 'bout the creation of Angels, lucifer, water and other pre Adam creatures?
when were they created?

Lucifer may have existed i'm not hear about him but his evil twin thats just propostrous. Man would like to assume their evil intentions and actions to an illusionary figure its just what we humans are specialist at doing; but i'm afraid its me and you that are the EVIL not some monster running around with two horns a tail and a garden fork.

As for the magnificience that is Water, well i think somebody has already answered that, if i may just quote tpia@

tpia@:
1. we do not know when or how water was created. It seems to have preceded the creation of the earth though i'm not sure. It could also be water was created along with earth but covered earth.

2. light preceded the sun.

3. there were spirits which preceded earth.

Joagbaje:
That's where you get it wrong , the devil is behind all these structures . Men may die but the structures lives on.

I'm going to assume that was a joke right, but the problem is that i cant find the punchline.

Evil Brain:
This is a dangerous line of thinking. If you follow it to its logical conclusion you'd discover that the whole story makes no sense and there isn't and cannot be an omniscient and omnipotent god.

Unless you want to become an atheist, I advise you to turn off your brain now!

rofl! It doesnt matter what anyone thinks the truth is unscaved by human intervention.

sigidi:
i need to know cos it bothers me. y would he , if he knows its gonna cause all this crap happening now?

I agree with Evil Brain, this is a dangerous line of thinking, because the first line of his sentence is the start of an elaborate story that is simply unfit for purpose. It only applies to certain scenarios outside of which it becomes totally meaningless.

Joagbaje:
The spirit is the real man. The soul is the realm of our feelings and emotions

Totally!

philip0906:
Its high time a section should be carved out for these atheists where they would be free to share their knowledge amongst themselves.This is the religious section and I wonder y we should be fighting for space with them  .The religious section clearly reads [size=18pt]Share your faith and belief in God or higher powers here.[/size] but these guys just swarm in here ignoring the bolded trying to prove what not.I do admit that this is a public forum,but this section should have these atheists as occasional visitors and not permanent residents.Go to the islamic section and c how relatively peaceful it is,with warning sef that it is only for muslims to share their faith  .I have once posted there only for my comments to be deleted by that mukina  I wonder y the other side should be d reverse.I do know d mod is a muslim and seun an atheist but I would be glad if my request is granted.
Signed,
Philip 0906

What is it that you are scared of? Apart from the fact that you are a round peg in a square hole; could it be that atheists are getting the better of you lately?

jayriginal:
There is actually no need for an Atheist section.
What would be better is a "Religious Debate" section.

I couldnt agree with you anymore

femy2010:
Can the assassination of a dictator ever be justified?

Yes! & No!

Yes! as in if the term "dictator" isnt a doubled edge sword.

For instance, Hitler was deemeed a dictator when he single handedly tried to rule Western Europe;  but Europe's ruling monachs (England, Portugal, Spain, France e.t.c) and their predecessors in parliament werent deemed dictators when they commited those horific crimes that led to the hollocaust of the 16-18th century.

No! as in nobody has the right to illegaly take another persons life.

There are in excess of  2,000 inventions that were patent by black Americans (and thats a conservative figure) most are not in the public eye for reasons that we certainly know.

Let me name a few:

Madam C J Walker [/b]was a business tycoon that earned a fortune through the invention of some of her cosmetic products. Infact she was the first ever American woman to become a millionaire.

[b]Elijah McCoy [/b]was the Canadian-American engineer responsible for great achievements in the development of the locomotives. He had in total a number of 57 inventions.

[b]Lewis Latimer (one of my favourite inventors of all times) was a draftsman who managed an oustanding career with his great achievements in the field of electrical electonics. Everyone knows about Thomas Edisson that the Americans claim invented electricity, but this was the same era Lewis was in and he was a prolific scientist that transformed the U S Electric Lighting company with numerous new technologies; carbon, floruscent, fillament e.t.c


Andrew Beard was another superb engineer that invented the first reliable railroad copuler.

Daniel Williams was one of the greatest surgeons of his time and was the only American cardiologist to have first successfully performed an open-heart surgery.

Charles Drew was another superb surgeon only he specialised in the study of blood transfusion and was responsible for the technology that allowed the opening of the first blood bank.

Garrett Morgan was an unstoppable inventing machine; as in he defied the "jack of all trade master of none" saying. His inventions were across different fields of study e.g Traffic signals (know known as traffic lights), gas masks, hair straighning e.t.c

Charles Brooks was responsible for the street sweeper. Prior to his invention, streets were cleaned manually by picking up trash by hand or sweeping it with brooms.


And the first ever President of America was  named George Washington

Exactly!
Moreover, i dont know about anyone else but i revere all the Orisha and direct  Worship towards the Almighty.

Mcleo:
@Rgp, pls point to one good form of civilization the african mind has granted upon world history. I'm a staunch historian, just for the knowing. I know so much abt most cultures and civilization. The african continent, with all its many cultures is the least on the ladder of civilization.

This cleary shows your lack of knowledge and complete ignorance. It is people like you that needs to wake up and you need to wake up fast!

You say you know so much about cultures and civilisations, answer me this who was responsible for pythagoras theory? Who are the "Olmec"? What point in time were they the dominating force; where did they come from?
Can you name 10 Black inventors? Who was the first president of the United states of America?

Rgp92:
Very sad that most Africans dont know their History

Like Africans were travelling to America way way before the 16th-18th century holocausts. Civilisation started in Africa; mathematics, medicine, law, agriculture e.t.c

I think it will take a few years before everybody recovers because the attack has been both physical and worst still psychological. Imagine, most Africans call their own religions demonic and the religions that was used to infultrate us is seen as the truth. Now thats a problem; and also the lack of our leaders concern in basic security. Instead of us spending major money on defence, we divert most to our personal swiss accounts.