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CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 11:20pm On Oct 17, 2011
African history in the bible? An attempt to suppress African history more like it. What most tend not to realise is the fact that the christian bible does not capture any sort of history whatsoever; even the contents that one would assume its possibilities is filled with corrupt stories.

For example, most of the pharoahs depicted in this book were deemed to be evil and or bad leaders. Ramesses II is regarded as one of the most celebrated Pharoahs in Kemetic history yet according to the bible he was a villan that ended up drowning in the red sea. And there are many other example like that the Pharoah is protrayed as a villan.

Its not much of a problem since we know that most of the biblical stories were not even real, some were either copied from more older stories or simply made up.

For centuries Eurocentrists have set the rules for research and reporting on African history and similar topics. It has only been mere decades since the Afrocentric view has developed traction.

What you will find out is that the Europeans have blotted out much of African history but they did this in the real documents - textbooks;  for instance, have you read anywhere that Africans were responsible for the invention of mathematics? Infact have you ever heard of an African being credited for any sort of invention?

Whereas the truth is that much of what Europe relied on to build there technological empires were based on African intelligence. We taught them (literally) in our higher institutions and after the invasion they began an elaborate plan to cover any traces of the TRUTH. What has this got to do with the bible? Well this was the tool that they would use to do their bidding and it would have worked if only the Earth wasnt very accomodating.

It was a marvel to actually uncover the first bits of significant information; this would be the trigger for a group of African scholars led by the late Dr Cheik Anta Diop to challenge Europes version of African history.


One of their main points was to attack the proposition known as the  “Greek miracle.” ; the notion that suggest history of civilization only begins with the Greeks; the idea that they suddenly burst on the scene out of nowhere in the 6th and 5th centuries BCE.

The truth was revealing, these guys were thorough and methodical in their research leaving no stone unturned. It was official, the seed had been planted and their was no going back, that the Greeks were the creators of philosophy, of science, of politics, of mathematics, of medicine, of theology, of art, of everything of intellectual value was blown so far out of the water that all they could do was start to concede, and concede and concede.

The Europeans conceded on many counts these include that Africa was the cradle of mankind, cradle of civilisation, medical science, architecture, philosophy e.t.c


All that is left is Kemet (Egypt); they refused to concede on Kemet (Black Land) because of the great implication this would immediately pose, once they are forced to concede to this then what this essential means is that the Greek civilisation was a fraud and that they owed most of their claims to African personnel. They refuse to concede that ancient Egyptians were dark skinned African, a wayward arguement given that all the people of Kemet originated from Uganda, Eithopia, Sudan and major parts of Nubia; moreover, the ancient Egytians called themselves Kemit which essentially means black. Herodotus, Aristotle, Lucian Apollodorus  confirms this. Strabo of the Romans says the 'Egyptians were dark skinned and of the same race as the Eithopians. Diodorus of Sicily, Diogenes Laertius, Constantine DeVolney e.t.c all refer to the Egyptians as being of dark skin.

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CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 11:16pm On Oct 17, 2011
nice post
Nairaland GeneralRe: Whites And Alcoholism(a Pictorial Tribute) by Amujale(m): 9:59pm On Oct 16, 2011
Rofl!
Nairaland GeneralRe: Is Crude Oil A Curse Or A Blessing To Nigeria? by Amujale(m): 9:58pm On Oct 16, 2011
Three poniters:

Leadership
Remove Western Grip
Nationalism (some call it patriotism)

Crude oil is not the only thing that Nigeria is blessed with, intellects, intellects, and even more intellects . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Jesus To You?(new) by Amujale(m): 9:53pm On Oct 16, 2011
Jesus is a figment of the believer's imagination that the Roman catholic church invented to use as a psychological weapon of mass destruction.

Christianity EtcRe: WHO IS JESUS? by Amujale(m): 9:46pm On Oct 16, 2011
Jesus is a figment of the believers imagination that the Roman catholic church invented to use as a silent weapon of mass destruction.

Christianity EtcRe: Which Is Worse? The Bible Or The QuraÁn? by Amujale(m): 9:35pm On Oct 16, 2011
Both are full of lies, plagiarism and self-centred interest.

Most of the stories in either the bible or the quran are representsations of other more older myths, plagiarized to suit the mood of a particular people.

CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 4:07pm On Oct 16, 2011
@rgp922 thanks well apreciated
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Amujale(m): 3:41pm On Oct 16, 2011
frosbel:
https://www.vote4jokes.com/images/illiterate.jpg
Are you afraid of the TRUTH? It is brotherly love that seeks to help set you FREE. I love you thats why i cannot just sit on my hands and watch as you continue on this path of nothingness; WAKE UP!

Please check me out, on all that i've written.

Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Amujale(m): 3:30pm On Oct 16, 2011
@frosbel Can you read?

The bible is a FRAUD used to try and brainwash anyone and everyone to accept a ficticious character they called Jesus the Christ.

The King James Version (KJV) was re-written in the 1600's by 47 English scholars under the command of King James Stuart I of England. And before this was the Bishop's bible that was re-written by scholars of Arch Bishop Parker under the reign of Queen Elizabeth I and it goes on and on uptil the book they originally called the Great bible

In essence this book is nothing more than the personal scrupples, desires of some of the most mentally twisted and sadistic European rulers in history. You only need to check out the history of King James I of England/King James VI of Scotland and Queen Elizabeth I to realise my point.

Lets focus on King James, this dude was the scum of the scum; infact scum isnt enough to describe this animal; he was a child molester (as in he Were Intimate with little boys), a murderer and a cheat.

And yet he commisioned the KJV.

Furthermore, there is not one story in the entire book that can claim to be original or TRUE. If it wasnt snatched out of a more older philosophy, it was merely made-up as pure fiction.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do People Hate The Bible So Much? by Amujale(m): 3:02pm On Oct 16, 2011
The bible is a FRAUD used to try and brainwash anyone and everyone to accept a ficticious character they called Jesus the Christ.

The King James Version (KJV) was re-written in the 1600's by 47 English scholars under the command of King James Stuart I of England. And before this was the bishop's bible that was re-written by scholars of Arch Bishop Parker under the reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

In essence this book is nothing more than the personal scrupples, desires of some of the most mentally twisted and sadistic European rulers in history. You only need to check out the history of King James I of England/King James VI of Scotland and Queen Elizabeth I to realise my point.

Lets focus on King James, this dude was the scum of the scum; infact scum isnt enough to; he was a child molester (as in he had sex with little boys), a murderer and a cheat. And yet he commisioned the KJV, what?
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 2:49pm On Oct 16, 2011
all4naija:
The chronology of most of these historical accounts is going to be a great hurdle in the quest. Not until our archaeologists face the facts and start acting as capable hands many of the interesting parts might be lost forever.
I agree.

What use to be a problem is now yesterdays news; as in we have now been able to split our material into two main classes:

Historical Truth
Religious History
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 2:37pm On Oct 16, 2011
alj_harem: Elegguá
Elegguá is the owner of the roads and doors in this world. He is the repository of ashé. The colors red and black or white and black are his and codify his contradictory nature. In particular, Elegguá stands at the crossroads of the human and the divine, as he is child-like messenger between the two worlds. In this role, it is not surprising that he has a very close relationship with the orisha of divination, Orunmila. Nothing can be done in either world without his permission. Elegguá is always propitiated and called first before any other orisha as he opens the door between the worlds and opens our roads in life. He recognises himself and is recognised by the numbers 3 and 21.
Nice images, great work, well apreciated

Could you do me a favour and replace the image depiction that you connect to this divinity with an African model?

The picture reflects the UNTRUE notion that Esu is synomynous to Satan. I can assure you that this NOT the case.

Thank-You in advance

CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 2:21pm On Oct 16, 2011
Rgp92: A white man visits Ífè, the sacred city of the Yórubas, and asks to hear the history of the place. The Órní, the religious head of Yórubaland, begins, and directs the Babaláwo Arába, the chief-priest of Ífa to continue.

I. THE BEGINNING.

The Órní of Ífè speaks:
Oíbo, you have asked to hear our lore,
The legends of the World's young hours—and where
Could truth in greater surety have its home
Than in the precincts of the shrines of Those
Who made the World, and in the mouths of priests
To whom their doings have been handed down
From sire to son?
Arámfè
reigns in
Heaven;        Before this World was made
There reigned Arámfè in the realm of Heaven
Amidst his sons. Old were the hills around him;
The Sun had shone upon his vines and cornfields
Since time past reckoning. Old was Arámfè,
The father of the Gods: his youth had been
The youth of Heaven. . . Once when the King reclined
Upon the dais, and his sons lay prostrate
In veneration at his feet, he spoke
tells his
sons of the
creation of
Heaven;   Of the great things he purposed:
     "My sons, you know
But fair things which I made for you, before
I called your spirits from the Dusk: for always
p. 14 Your eyes have watched the shadows and the wind
On waving corn, and I have given you
The dances and the chorus of the night—
An age of mirth and sunrise (the wine of Heaven)
Is your existence. You have not even heard
Of the grey hour when my young eyes first opened
To gaze upon a herbless Mass, unshaped
And unadorned. But I knew well the heart
Of Him-Who-Speaks-Not, the far-felt Purpose that gave
Me birth; I laboured and the grim years passed:
Streams flowed along their sunny beds; I set
The stars above me, and the hills about;
I fostered budding trees, and taught the birds
Their song—the unshapely I had formed to beauty,
And as the ages came I loved to make
The beautiful more fair. . . All went not well:
A noble animal my mind conceived
Emerged in loathsome form to prey upon
My gentle creatures; a river, born to bask
In sunlit channels and mirror the steep hills,
Tore down its banks and ravaged field and plain;
While cataract and jagged precipice,
Now grand with years, remind me of dread days
p. 15 When Heaven tottered, and wide rifts sundered my young
Fair hills, and all seemed lost. Yet—I prevailed.
Think, now, if the accomplished whole be Heaven,
How wonderful the anxious years of slow
And hazardous achievement—a destiny
For Gods. But yours it has not been to lead
Creation by the cliff's-edge way from Mass
To Paradise." He paused on the remembrance,
And Great Orísha cried: "Can we do naught?
What use in godhead without deeds to do?
Where yearns a helpless region for a hand
To guide it?" And Old Arámfè answered him:
sends them
to make the
World.   "My son, your day approaches. Far-off, the haze
Rests always on the outer waste which skirts
Our realm; beyond, a nerveless Mass lies cold
'Neath floods which some malign unreason heaves.
Odúwa, first-born of my sons, to you I give
The five-clawed Bird, the sand of power.1 Go now,
Call a despairing land to smiling life
Above the jealous sea, and found sure homesteads
For a new race whose destiny is not
The eternal life of Gods. You are their judge;
p. 16 Yours is the kingship, and to you all Gods
And men are subject. Wisest of my sons,
Orísha, yours is the grateful task to loose
Vague spirits1 waiting for the Dawn—to make
The race that shall be; and to you I give
This bag of Wisdom's guarded lore and arts
For Man's well-being and advancement. And you,
My younger sons, the chorus and the dance,
The voice of worship and the crafts are yours
To teach—that the new thankful race may know
The mirth of Heaven and the joys of labour."
Then Odúwa said: "Happy our life has been,
And I would gladly roam these hills for ever,
Your son and servant. But to your command
I yield; and in my kingship pride o'ersteps
Sorrow and heaviness. Yet, Lord Arámfè,
I am your first-born: wherefore do you give
The arts and wisdom to Orísha? I,
The King, will be obeyed; the hearts of men
Will turn in wonder to the God who spells
Strange benefits." But Arámfè said "Enough;
To each is fitting task is given. Farewell."
The Gods
leave
Heaven.   p. 17 Here the Beginning was: from Arámfè's vales
Through the desert regions the exiled Gods approached
The edge of Heaven, and into blackness plunged—
A sunless void o'er godless water lying—1
To seize an empire from the Dark, and win
Amidst ungoverned waves a sovereignty.

Odúwa
steals the
bag and
causes War
on Earth.   But by the roadside while Orísha slept
Odúwa came by stealth and bore away
The bag Arámfè gave. Thus was the will
Of God undone: for thus with the charmed sand
Cast wide on the unmastered sea, his sons
Called forth a World of envy and of war.

Of Man's Creation, and of the restraint
Olókun2 placed upon the chafing sea,
Of the unconscious years which passed in darkness
Till dazzling sunshine touched the unused eyes
Of men, of War and magic—my priest shall tell you,
And all the Great Ones did before the day
They vanished to return to the calm hills
Life in Ífè
is as it was
in the time
of the Gods   p. 18 Of Old Arámfè's realm . . . They went away;
But still with us their altars and their priests
Remain, and from their shrines the hidden Gods
Peer forth with joy to watch the dance they taught,
And hear each night their chorus with the drum:
For changeless here the early World endures
In this first stronghold of humanity,
And, constant as the buffets of the waves
Of Queen Olókun on the shore, the song,
The dance of those old Gods abide, the mirth,
The life . . . I, too, am born of the Beginning:
Odúm’la
speaks for
the Gods;   For, when from the sight of men the Great Gods passed,
They left on Earth Órní Odúm’la1 charged
To be a father to a mourning people,
To tend the shrines and utter solemn words
Inspired by Those invisible. And when
Odúm’la's time had come to yield the crown,
To wait upon the River's brink,2 and cross
To Old Arámfè—Ífa,3 in his wisdom,
and lives
for ever in
the person
of the
Órní.   p. 19 Proclaimed that son with whom Odúm’la's soul
Abode. Thus has it ever been; and now
With me that Being is—about, within—
And on our sacred days these lips pronounce
The words of Odudúwa and Orísha.
Could you provide the date of this happening? Thanks
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 2:01pm On Oct 16, 2011
all4naija:
The truth is that none of our archaeologists are even bothered to look into places for sites of ancient history, I haven't come across a milestone of excavations (I know they are there) carried out in this great cultural part of the earth.
How can most of our archaeologists be bothered to look into places for sites of ancient history, when most of them are either waiting for a white man to descend from the skies and rapture them or a pilgrimage to Israel; whilst some are busy trying to learn arabic or a pilgrimage to Mecca.

But it IS our job to WAKE THEM UP! The bridge of the intellectual divide has to cease to exist in that form; the form of their NOT being a bridge. It is imperative that we see things from the same scope regardless of our differences.

However, there are archaeologists, anthroplogists and geophysicists and authorities in many other disciplines of relevance that are willing to be a part of thisd project for what its worth. The ball has already started to roll and its pace is not determined by no man/woman but by the conscience of people; the conscience that yearns for the TRUTH.
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 1:48pm On Oct 16, 2011
Now on topic, Yoruba mythology is a hit in South America and the Caribbean. In my oipnion there needs to be a bridge buit that can reach out to these people; not in an attempt to overwhelm them with how we think they got their versions wrong but just to connect with their souls.

Many of these people call themselves Yoruba (and rightfully so) but we dont even recognise that they exist; i think this has to change.
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 1:42pm On Oct 16, 2011
rgp922:
I belive we had some kind of writing system before total colonization
It wouldnt suprise me, but we need hard evidence; please if you have insight of this enlighten us.

The restoration has already started, believe me when i say things will never be the same again.

We are in the process of literally ripping up the record books and re-writting history. . . African history.

From an African prespective (this is not an attempt to replace fiction with fiction) but to salvage the little pieces of evidence we have been able to recover (infact with are in communication with various museums and galleries) in an attempt to re-construct our history to project as TRUTHFULLY as humanly possible a picture of how things were before the European Invasion.
CultureRe: Yoruba Mythology by Amujale(m): 1:03pm On Oct 16, 2011
Africa is the cradle of humanity, civilization, philosophy, physical sciences, commerce, metarlurgy, agriculture,  Pretty much all the core recipes of civility.

The greatest mistake the war mongering crusaders made was assuming that if they attempted to get rid of the evidence of black African history then they'll be free to create it themselves. This assumption was admitedly witty but more importantly was always doomed for failure.


It has been revealed that many Greeks use to pilgramage to Egypt as students of the great minds of that time and Pythagoras was no exception. The killing evidence of this was found somewhere in the continent and the shocking thing is that the scripts pre-dates even pythagoras himself; the same goes for Hippocrates that the Greeks claim to be the father of medicine - LIES

A famous Roman once said if you could write a book of a thousand pages, you couldnt fit the names of the Greeks that visited Egypt.


Much of West African philosophy remains undiluted because West Africans existed way before the communities in Europe became. And please dont confuse literacy with intelligence because they're both completely different notions. However, some good for nothing nitwits have tried to westernize this, the text that amor4ce is a typical example. We all know that ESu has nothing in common with the christian character known as Satan; as this Satan character is a mere figment of imagination.

In my opinion, the text in the article http://destee.com/index.php?threads/getting-started-with-ifa.59403/page-2 has NO credibility whatsoever.

If we educate ourselves in our own dialect and NOT a foreogn one like English, French, Spanish e.t.c my point would become much clearer. Because much (not all) of West Africans were'nt literate during and prior to the Egyptian dynaties doesnt mean that they were not intelligent. Intelligence is a state of the mind and has little to do with ones ability to express this in on papyri.

Talking of papyrus; this was invented in the African continent.

btw the timeline of Sungbo Eredo needs to be microscopically examined by Nigerians and NOT Europeans to determine the TRUE carbonprint of this significant historical monument. There's such alot of work to do and we sidetrack ourselves with nonsensical jargons lwhen we have our own history to put together. You, me and everyone else has to chip in, we need to operate as if Our world has been stolen and we NEED to take it back.
Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization by Amujale(m): 12:34pm On Oct 15, 2011
AjanleKoko:
^^
They brought a lot. Religion, Western education and political structures.
Granted, they also took a lot But to a large extent their legacies cannot be denied. If we were forward looking, we could have integrated the knowledge with our traditional belief systems to more effect, like the Japanese. Rather we prefer to sit in the past and point fingers.
I'm afraid NOT, what you seem to assume they brought, we already had in the first place. Its just like saying: A farmer that specialises in planting cocoa has been giving alot when his fruits are taken away to later produce a cocoa drink. That notion is inaccurate, it seems you do NOT get my point let me shed some light briefly:

Lets start with religion. . .

Most of the contents in "the religion they brought" they plagiarized from various different older religious text and the bulk can be siotuated on African soil. In essence they took African philosophies repackaged it to suit their own agenda before systematically pitching it back to Her people. Pretty much everything in the christaians religious book has a fraudalent history, or has merely just be made-up.

I'm not suggesting that to have FAITH or to belong to a school-of-thought is a crime, but that round pegs are meant for round holes, square pegs are meant for square holes; putting a round peg in a square hole doesnt work. The religion of christianity that the Europeans brought into Africa is the worst thing that they ever did and are doing as i text, destroying people's original philosophies and trying to replace it with fiction. I think its called "Brainwashing".

Norman Lewis reveals the sinister method a group of missionaries (ex cathedra) employ in a case of what can only be described as WICKED.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis


There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries. It is no wonder their so-called "holy" book is a FRAUD. An immitation of various philosophies (including those of African origin) in every sense that is, the content are NOT original, and the motives behind its publication is drastic given the draconian mind games with which it operates.

Much of the system of education that we were taught in school is based on a Europeans point of view, the TRUE origin of the "learning institutions" originates also from the African continent. The first ever university (although it wasnt caslled a university) was in the land of Kemet. The Europeans themselves enrolled and were taught the here. A famous Roman once said and i quote; "If you can write a book of a thousand pages, you couldnt fit in the names of the Greeks that visited Egypt" We no know that much of the intellectual breakthroughs that the Greeks to credit for was infact African. A typical example would be Pythagoras theorem, that Pythagoras claimed have to invented, this is infact untrue.

The same goes to political structures too, moreover, the evidence is in todays world. The political structures that the Europeans brought over was and is constructed to favour themselves and nobody else. We had our own systems that worked fine until they came with their greedy ambitions.


http://www.amazon.ca/Missionaries-God-Against-Indians/dp/0070376131

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Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization by Amujale(m): 4:27am On Oct 15, 2011
Nigeria didnt exist but that doesnt mean to say that the people of Nigeria didnt exist; the river Niger was an ancient trade post that Africans used to export and import goods to and fro the Americas; that suggest that there were communities in the area during those days.

It is NOT about being colonized, it is about being aware that the campaign was wrong, evil and unjustified. Look at China and Japan that you make reference to, they are among the most influential countries in the world today because they got their priorities straight.

What i;'m trying to say is that we should stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get back to work already. Brazil has the larrgest amount of indeginous Nigerians outside of the African continent and they quickly learnt that if you do not fight for your own survival, nobody will. We hold all the aces and are scared to play them; under the pretext that some fictional dudes called Jesus or Mohammed will punish us for sticking up for ourselves.

We persecute our own HOPES and ASPIRATIONS over foreign INSTRUCTIONS.

Imagine this scenario:

Person B visits person A and says that all his family members are evil and goes on further to say that if person Awant to be a "good person"; would have to adopt all the members of his family (Person B's family).

The topic of this thread reads: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization!

Africa without the crimes against humanity that was subjected by the Europeans would have been Heaven or Earth. Yet it is NOT too late. While we have been to busy pointing acusing fingers at each other when the REAL enemy is out there; the enemy that we try to make our role model; this same enemy have been working at compounding issues.

When will we get it? The Europeans and Arabs DO NOT like us and yet we continue to worship the ground on which they walk; until they sold us fiction in replace for hard currency.

We know what to do, yet we just dont seem bothered getting grips with the urgency by which it needs to be done. Unity first, all other things can wait.

Our history has been severly tampered with and it is imperative that we come to grips with this as soon as Earthly possible. We need to go back to the drawing board; de-Europeanize ourselves and start acting like the Africans that we really are. There is nothing worst than being second rate. There's only one prize that counts and the first letter begins with "F".

If you want to know how Nigeria suppose to look like, you only need to check-out Brazil. We have ill-judgedly embraced an allien culture while most of South America have emraced ours.

Alright!

Point out one thing that the Arabians & or Europeans have done that can be said to be helpful to the people of the African continent or anyone else for that matter?

Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization by Amujale(m): 12:29am On Oct 15, 2011
AjanleKoko:
I never get the point of these 'Great Histories of Africa'.

Lots of races have a great history, and still got colonized. Britain was colonized by the Romans, they went on to colonize the US, who is today, well, the US.
Even China was colonized by Japan at some point.

Africans, nay Nigerians, are still on about our 'Great History'. Nigeria didn't even exist at the time the pyramids were build. What do the pyramids have to do with the situation we find ourselves today?
Nigeria didnt exist but that doesnt mean to say that the people of Nigeria didnt exist; the river Niger was an ancient trade post that Africans used to export and import goods to and fro the Americas; that suggest that there were communities in the area during those days.

It is NOT about being colonized, it is about being aware that the campaign was wrong, evil and unjustified. Look at China and Japan that you make reference to, they are among the most influential countries in the world today because they got their priorities straight.

What i;'m trying to say is that we should stop feeling sorry for ourselves and get back to work already. Brazil has the larrgest amount of indeginous Nigerians outside of the African continent and they quickly learnt that if you do not fight for your own survival, nobody will. We hold all the aces and are scared to play them; under the pretext that some fictional dudes called Jesus or Mohammed will punish us for sticking up for ourselves.

We persecute our own HOPES and ASPIRATIONS over foreign INSTRUCTIONS.

Imagine this scenario:

Person B visits person A [/b]and  says that all his family members are evil and goes on further to say that if person [b]A[/b]want to be a "good person"; would have to adopt all the members of his family (Person [b]B's family).

The topic of this thread reads: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization!

Africa without the crimes against humanity that was subjected by the Europeans would have been Heaven or Earth. Yet it is NOT too late. While we have been to busy pointing acusing fingers at each other when the REAL enemy is out there; the enemy that we try to make our role model; this same enemy have been working at compounding issues.

When will we get it? The Europeans and Arabs DO NOT like us and yet we continue to worship the ground on which they walk; until they sold us fiction in replace for hard currency.

We know what to do, yet we just dont seem bothered getting grips with the urgency by which it needs to be done. Unity first, all other things can wait.

Our history has been severly tampered with and it is imperative that we come to grips with this as soon as Earthly possible. We need to go back to the drawing board; de-Europeanize ourselves and start acting like the Africans that we really are. There is nothing worst than being second rate. There's only one prize that counts and the first letter begins with "F".

If you want to know how Nigeria suppose to look like, you only need to check-out Brazil. We have ill-judgedly embraced an allien culture while most of South America have emraced ours.

Alright!

Point out one thing that the Arabians & or Europeans have done that can be said to be helpful to the people of the African continent or anyone else for that matter?

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Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization by Amujale(m): 11:15pm On Oct 14, 2011
Ones school-of-thought is determined by ones geographical inheritance, there is NO short cut. Its either we face the truth NOW or forever keep our peace.

For days, months and years we have invested all our spirituality into false HOPES and ASPIRATIONS. When common sense dictates that the only TRUE aspiration is one that which can actually be achieved in its entirety.

There is so much to learn about ourselves and surroundings yet we are being taught NOT to think; what kind of psychology beats continuity.

We dont need to be saved by anyone or anything because God has already given that to us countless times and i dont see that stopping anytime soon.

We dont need to repent because We are NOT a guilty people.

We are NOT waiting for a white or tanned man to come an eliviate US from suffering because thats just NONSENSICAL if a white or tanned man was going to descend from the skies to eliviate anyone, the first people on the list would be those that look like HIM. Its not discrimination, its common sense.

We dont need to face anywhere during petition but our immediate solvable problems.

We dont need salvation because we were saved the day we were allowed into the world

All the ethics and moral philosophy we need to navigate the planet Earth is already present in our OWN psychology.

Our ancestors, heroes and saviours deserve nothing more than the best reception.

What is the point in living for somebody elses GOAL.

There is so much work to be done, and yet little effort awarded to a course.

Let us invoke the spirit of OUR ancestors, in everything that we partake, We need to operate as if our world has been stolen and we AIM to re-take it.

We have to snap out of this daze that we are in, it is us; we are the LIGHT of OUR world nobody else.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Without Slavery And Colonization by Amujale(m): 11:04pm On Oct 14, 2011
Dr.Ayo:
Taking a critical look at things. How far do you think Africa would have gone without slavery and colonization?
Africans are single handedly responsible for much of what the world enjoys today; i cannot think about and field of intellect that doesnt have an African thumbprint written all over it; not one.

Philosophy, Art, Astronomy, Medical science, Commerce, Agriculture, Mathematics. . . The list goes on . . .

So, i'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree. The history we were taught in secondary school is completely inaccurate and unfit for purpose. I was taught that when the crusaders landed on African soil that they were faced with uncivilised communities blah, blah , blah

However, the TRUTH is that Africa is responsible for the first ever civilisation communities in the existence and that's even before the Egyptian Dynasties.

Africans did not only possess great intelletual creedence but they taught it to the outside world aslo.

Infact, it was in this great continent that the recordings of the first ever successful medical suregery took place, not to talk of philosophy, mathematics, astonomer's watch tower; i think you get the drift.

All the historical commentary of the Europeans with regards to Africa has been proven to be a big hoax.

Have you heard of Kemet?

Kemet is the original name given to the land were Egypt occupies, these were the people responsible for most of Egyptian intellectual breakthroughs and they were black Africans. Yet Kemet is below in the pecking order when it comes to civilisation because there a host of other Nubian communities.

For instance, are you aware the number of black African Pharoahs? Well that statement sounds subjective yet i only write this way because of the picture that Europeans try to put in their own heads. In actual fact most of main Egyptian Pharoahs were black Africans.

So the hollocaust of the 16-18th century was the most profitable project ever to have occured in human history. And you neednt ask yourself who were those who profited. All you need to do is open your eyes and the answers will not evade you.

So your crazy theory that suggest we should be thanking the Europeans for invading our lands; killing our peers;  exploiting our resources; pillaging our sacred places; stealing and destroying our treasures is mind boggling.

Pinch yourself, i think you are sleeping.

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Christianity EtcRe: Success Stories of Missionary Outreaches by Amujale(m): 10:24pm On Oct 14, 2011
PAGAN  9JA:
another culture, people and religion being lost to history books, all because of this fals and evil religion. angry sad
Indeed! Thats what the religion is all about, destroying people's original philosophies and trying to replace it with fiction. I think its called "Brainwashing".

When was the bible written? Who wrote it? For what purpose?

Norman Lewis reveals the sinister method a group of missionaries (ex cathedra) employ in a case of what can only be described as WICKED.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis


There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on  some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that  before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries. It is no wonder their so-called "holy" book is a FRAUD. An immitation of various philosophies (including those of African origin) in every sense that is, the content are NOT original, and the motives behind its publication is drastic given the draconian mind games with which it operates.

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Christianity EtcRe: Islam Created By The Roman Catholic by Amujale(m): 7:57pm On Oct 13, 2011
polokor60:
the quran keep making references to the bible with some changes in the name of great men in the bible but the bible never made any reference to quran.the quran was edited from the bible to suit the islamic faith.the bible was written by 40 different men in a period of over 1500 years.the quran was written by how many men?and in a period of ,  Years?the only basis of comparism that would ve existed between the bible and the quran was if both holy books were written at the same time to enable the future generation to compare and contrast the events took place  during the time of recording.the bible remains the oldest religious book in the history of mankind and the quran can attest to that.my message is believe in whatever you believe but no religion should be judgemental towards the others.peaceout  cheesy wink
Yes, i see you've done your homework and are quite converse in ancient religion; however, in front of the bare TRUTH , a piece of expensively decorated cardboard will always be found wanting, especially when it involves in the acquisition of false knowledge.

I'm afraid i beg to differ; my reservation is not diected towards which of the two cults have been around the longest but your admission that the bible is the oldest religious book doesnt credit to its sources. It is NOT however the oldest religious text. 

The bulk of the stories that feature in these two books were borrowred from African philosophies, the majority being Kemet.

Christianity EtcRe: Has Noah's Ark Been Discovered? by Amujale(m): 5:00pm On Oct 13, 2011
OLAADEGBU:
Read the article in the link below and compare the stories before you come to the conclusion of which story was plagiarised.

http://www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/
In the Sumerian tale, which pre-dates the biblical version by thousands of years,  The author of the article in your link lays down his thesis as if the sumerian history and biblical history existed in the same era. Infact there is NOT a shed of proof to stand by the claims that the bible makes about any community, character or ruling house.

Yet you also have the Egyptians, Greeks, Armenians, Indians and they all pre-date the publishing of the bible.

When was the bible written? Who wrote it? And for what purpose?

OLAADEGBU: At least they took the Genesis Flood as a fact which prompted them to search for it where the Bible said was.
Who are you refering to as they? How can "they" or anyone for that matter find something that never really existed in the first place? The only people that regard it with any credibility are members of the christian cult. So your reference to "they" is quite patronising to say the least.

Its remarkable that the U.S.A, UK and the Vatican dont seem to give much of a fuss; doesnt that reveal itself to you. Meanwhile i'm not sharing my opinion just because i feel the need to but to caress your senses so you can see the biblical and quranic stories for what they really are; BOGUS.

While we discussing stories, let me take this opportunity to tell a great one; the difference being this really happened.

The Missionaries - god Against The Indians by Norman Lewis

This is an example of the sometimes twisted ways of humankind.

There was an Indian community in the Amazon region called Panare that missionaries tried allsorts of ways to convert them to christianity but failed. The reason was simple, the philosophy behind christianity depends on  some basic pricinples that which implemented could stupify their audience:

* Sin
* Guilt
* Punishment
* Redemption/Salvation

But they had a problem, Panare linguistics doesnt have words that are equivalent to the above because they were content the way they lived; all the stories of that the bible could offer were received as mere entertainment. So, the missionaries forged a plan; they would introduce these principles into the community themselves. The deduction was that  before the Indians could be made to accept repentance and salvation one had to give them something to feel guilty about.

In excess of a thousand coupies of the new testament was printed to say that the Panare killed Jesus, so now anywhere where the Romans were supposed to have featured, the Panare's were substituted.

It seems it was a common practice among the Christian missionaries to accuse Indians of killing the ficticious Jesus.

Dont believe me? Again you can verify for yourselves

http://www.amazon.ca/Missionaries-God-Against-Indians/dp/0070376131


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CultureRe: Yoruba Speakers Help Me! by Amujale(m): 3:29pm On Oct 13, 2011
amor4ce:
do you know of any Yoruba language course and/or text that teaches Yoruba vocabulary by breaking words into their roots? in mm opinion understanding Yoruba words is easier when we can understand the meaning of the syllables. For instance, how many Yoruba-speaking people can translate "Olodumare" and "eniyan" into English?
Now those are great points! Food for thought. . .
CultureRe: Black Indigenes Of Japan, And From Africa? by Amujale(m): 6:41am On Oct 12, 2011
ezeagu:
A lot of Japanese can look African or European, it doesn't mean they migrated over the Pacific.
I hear you, but some Africans did actually migrate over the pacific.
Christianity EtcRe: Can The Assassination Of A Dictator Be Justified? by Amujale(m): 5:27am On Oct 12, 2011
D sage:
in my own opinion,i tink d solutions stated by dependency theory as it was propounded by Latin America intellectual wi b of help.
Absolutely! i share your opinion, however to cultivate this theory to its full potential it is imperative to have in place an effective defence system that would act as a deterrent.
Christianity EtcRe: Is God A Trinity? by Amujale(m): 5:15am On Oct 12, 2011
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Christianity EtcRe: Is 'speaking In Tongue' Real? by Amujale(m): 4:50am On Oct 12, 2011
Knight1:
that people speak in an 'incomprehensible' language doesn't mean that thats all about it.
a typical village yoruba woman that's praying and speaking in impeccable queens english is speaking in tongues!
Rofl!

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