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Culture / Re: Did West Africans Develop Cast Iron In Pre-colonial Times? by AmunRaOlodumare: 6:25pm On Aug 05, 2014
There's some controversies within archaeologists about the earliest dates for West African metalworking. The latest date everybody agree with seems to be around 500BC. Other dates range from 3000BC to 500BC by using radiocarbon dating.


Leaving the controversies aside, iron and copper metallurgy were clearly well established in West Africa by 500 BC with gold, bronze, and brass following in the mid-first millennium AD. The earliest appearance of metallurgy in East Africa dates to the closing centuries of the last millennium BC. In southern Africa, the southward migration of Bantu-speaking farmers introduced iron and copper around AD200, with gold, tin, bronze, and brass appearing towards the beginning of the second millennium.
From The Oxford Hand book of African Archaeology (2013) (chap 10)

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Culture / Re: Did West Africans Develop Cast Iron In Pre-colonial Times? by AmunRaOlodumare: 5:19pm On Aug 04, 2014
For some reason the spam bot doesn't allow me to post this information with all the quote. I will try to post it in sequence.

There's some controversies within archaeologists about the earliest dates for West African metalworking, but the latest date everybody agree with seems to be around 500BC. Other dates range from 3000BC to 500BC by using radiocarbon dating.

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Religion / Re: Boy Suspended From School For Reading Bible During Recess by AmunRaOlodumare: 12:48pm On Jul 31, 2014
catso: I can see this action as the beginning of the end.
And when people introduced the bible and coran, then enslaved and colonized us, was it the start?
Religion / Re: Boy Suspended From School For Reading Bible During Recess by AmunRaOlodumare: 11:47pm On Jul 30, 2014
nnamdibig: violated school policy by reading the Bible in school.
Should have been the first policy introduced in Africa by the law makers after the end of colonization!

Nothing worse than having your people mentally and spiritually colonized by the colonialist enemy who then enslave and colonize your people!

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Culture / Re: Early History Of The Niger-congo Speakers (igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Mande, Etc) by AmunRaOlodumare: 5:07pm On Jul 30, 2014
The following quotes are from the book: The Oxford Handbook of African Archaeology edited by Peter Mitchell, Paul Lane (2013)

Basically, it tells us people now living in West Africa (Akan, Igbo, Yoruba, etc) come from the Sahara during its desertification. (and before this migrants from eastern Africa considering the origin of Y-DNA haplogroups E-P2 and the linguistic origin of Niger-Congo(-Kordofanian) languages).

[img]http://image.bokus.com/images2/9780199569885_200[/img]

In West Africa, there is very little evidence for people south of the Sahara prior to the mid-Holocene, and such evidence as does exist is primarily of small scattered groups of mobile hunter-gatherers, some of whom returned frequently, possibly even seasonally, to the same places.


Davies(1967) and Shaw (1978) both argued that before the desiccation of the Sahara, not only were Saharan inhabitants not compelled to move southward, but it was virtually impossible for them to do so. Postulated barriers to human occupation in southern West Africa include the difficulty of making a living in the dense rainforest prior to the advent of iron tools, and potentially lethal diseases such as malaria, onchocerciasis, and trypanosomiasis, the latter an added problem to herders because it can be devastating to cattle (Smith 1992). Only when climate zones contracted could people, and especially herders, move south.


The artefacts found at many early sites support a northern origin for SMA people in southern West Africa. Projectile points are often in a 'Saharan Style' with concave or convex bases, and pottery often bears comb and roulette impressions very similar to types known from the Sahara and the Nile Valley as early as the tenth millennium B.P.
It's written clearly. People in southern West Africa (Yoruba, Igbo, African-Americans, etc) have a northern origin. A green Saharan origins. They brought with them archaeological artefacts from the Green Sahara period including pottery and else.

Culture / Re: Ifa Heritage Institute Is Open For Admission by AmunRaOlodumare: 12:59pm On Jul 12, 2014
Pagan9JA also made a thread about it last year:

https://www.nairaland.com/1419227/ifa-heritage-university-oyo-prof
Religion / Re: Lagos Pastor Confesses: I Belong To The Ogboni Confraternity (FULL INTERVIEW) by AmunRaOlodumare: 8:56pm On Jul 09, 2014
Ayomivic: Don't ever believe in men or trust men, believe in God,trust God, believe in scripture and trust yourself.

And who wrote those scriptures and who decided which scriptures should be included or not in your favorite religious books (which I guess is the bible, coran or less likely the torah)?

You say 'don't believe in men' but why believe lies written by men just because those men you don't trust nor believe have written them in a book (in your own logic, I mean)? Even worst since those books were given to you by colonialists and jihadists crusaders in the first place (all men you warned us about) who had an economical interest in mentally colonizing you through their missionaries? Thanks.

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Culture / Re: Did West Africans Develop Cast Iron In Pre-colonial Times? by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:58am On Jul 08, 2014
ChinenyeN:
As for firearms, there is plenty of historical evidence that shows West Africans to have actively engaged in the production of firearms after it was introduced by Europeans. There are a number of local communities even today that are still known to manufacture and not import firearms.
Do you, or anybody else, have any books or reference to recommend about West Africans reproducing firearms?

I'm really interested in the subject but only been able to find references about it for Mali (Sekou Toure I think).
Religion / Re: What The Nigerian Atheist Who Was Declared Insane Shows About Xtians And Muslims by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:50am On Jul 08, 2014
I think it's pretty clear who are the insane ones in this story.
Family / Re: To Report A Cheating Wife To Her Husband Or Not, What's Your Take? by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:05pm On Jul 07, 2014
Yes, of course, it's a close friend. But don't tell him his wife is cheating, tell him what you saw and know for sure.
Culture / The Art Of Money - African Metalwork And Currency (zora Museum) by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:16pm On Jul 05, 2014
Here's a document about beautiful African currencies:

African currency systems
were mostly suppressed by European colonial
administrations with the forcible introduction
of coin currency in the early 1900’s. But the historical
record and material evidence created by
skilled African blacksmiths of the past invites us
to appreciate the superb elegance and artistry of
objects created for use in traditional African monetary
systems.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/128ns9
Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Carnage Making Nigeria Break-up Less Likely - Soyinka by AmunRaOlodumare: 2:21pm On Jul 04, 2014
Early ban of catholism in Japan

The Tokugawa shogunate finally decided to ban Catholicism. In the statement on the "Expulsion of all missionaries from Japan", drafted by Zen monk Konchiin Suden (1563–1633) and issued in 1614 under the name of second shogun Hidetada (ruled 1605-1623), was considered the first official statement of a comprehensive control of Kirishitan.[23] It claimed that the Christians were bringing disorder to Japanese society and that their followers "contravene governmental regulations, traduce Shinto, calumniate the True Law, destroy regulations, and corrupt goodness".[24] It was fully implemented and canonized as one of the fundamental Tokugawan laws.

^^^Killing those abrahamic fascist religions in the egg.

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Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Carnage Making Nigeria Break-up Less Likely - Soyinka by AmunRaOlodumare: 2:16pm On Jul 04, 2014
Christian religious fascist Pastors Arrested in Buddhist Bhutan
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-pastors-arrested-in-buddhist-bhutan-115873/

Two Christian pastors in the tiny Buddhist kingdom of Bhutan are being held in a detention center in a southern district for over three days while area believers are being summoned repeatedly by police, said sources inside the nation that doesn't officially recognize the Christian minority.[...]

About 30 believers, including women and children, were also taken to the area police post for the recording of their statements, the source added. The two pastors were later moved to the Samtse Detention Center, while the others were allowed to return.[...]

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Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Carnage Making Nigeria Break-up Less Likely - Soyinka by AmunRaOlodumare: 2:06pm On Jul 04, 2014
Ramadan fasting banned in China's Muslim northwest
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ramadan-fasting-banned-in-china-s-muslim-northwest-1.2694866

China is lucky to not have too many muslim terrorist/fascist in their country. But the one they got are already starting to cause trouble with their faschist religious doctrine. They must act swiftly to kill the baby Hitler in the egg.
Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Carnage Making Nigeria Break-up Less Likely - Soyinka by AmunRaOlodumare: 1:55pm On Jul 04, 2014
PAGAN 9JA:
[size=18pt]BAN FOREIGN RELIGION.

PROBLEM SOLVED!


THE CHANGE CAN ONLY START IF THE MORE LIBERAL SOUTH SETS AN EXAMPLE FIRST.

THERE IS ALREADY A MOVEMENT ERUPTING IN PARTS OF SOUTH-WEST, BUT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH..[/size]
It does seem a bit extreme and a bit out of character for traditionalists. Even at the family level they can pray and communicate to their own ancestors (as well as town, regional and national deities). But as I said this mutual respect and preaching of religious pluralism must be reciprocal. Abrahamic religions at their core are fascist religions who believe only their religion (either sunni, shia, shiite, catholic, protestant, mormon, judaism, etc) is right while others are wrong. So while it won't happen I can see some justification for it.

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Officials Announce Ban on Christianity in Lao Village


Following the confiscation of livestock from Christian families earlier this month, officials in a village in Laos on Saturday (July 11) called a special meeting for all residents and announced that they had “banned the Christian faith in our village.”

The chief of Katin village, along with village security, social and religious affairs officials, warned all 53 Christian residents that they should revert to worshiping local spirits in accordance with Lao tradition or risk losing all village rights and privileges – including their livestock and homes, according to advocacy group Human Rights Watch for Lao Religious Freedom (HRWLRF).

The Katin village leader also declared that spirit worship was the only acceptable form of worship in the community, HRWLRF reported. Katin village is in Ta Oih district, Saravan Province.

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Religion / Re: Support To Our European Brothers - European Congress Of Ethnic Religions by AmunRaOlodumare: 1:16pm On Jun 30, 2014
macof: that's nice, The whole world would be pagan again
Personally, I don't think any religions are about to disappear completely including atheist and agnostic believers. If the revivalist movements in America and Europe would increase in importance, I think it would be more about making pagan traditions an important part of the cultural heritage in Europe, since practitioners would be widespread at all level of the society (for example, in schools, new holidays, movies, celebrations, philosophy, ethics, morality, etc). It would form an important part of the pragmatic cultural heritage at all level of the society.
Religion / Support To Our European Brothers - European Congress Of Ethnic Religions by AmunRaOlodumare: 3:17am On Jun 30, 2014
Browsing the web, I stepped on this site:
http://ecer-org.eu/

Nowadays in Europe and America most people are atheist (or agnostic/agnostic theist), preferring let's say a more natural/scientific world view. As people know the foundation of modern European culture is based on Ancient Greece. The greatest civilizations of the world including Ancient Greece, the Roman Republic and Empire, Ancient Egypt, etc were pagan nations. Only at the end of the Roman Empire did Constantine convert people to Christianity. A case can be made that it led to the downfall of the Roman Empire. Then Europe went into the horrible dark ages. Only to be revived by the Renaissance. The renaissance often based on science and culture developed in Ancient Greece (Mathematics, Philosophy, Democracy, Freedom of speech, etc).

In Asia, the situation is a bit different since many people maintained their linkage to their ancestral traditions. Shinto, Hindu, etc. So in Europe a question I have about many ancient tradition revival is about how authentic they are compared to the tradition practiced by their ancestors. I don't know the situation but I would guess Hellenismos religions are probably pretty authentic while some Celtic revivalist may be less authentic **but still perfectly fine**. Of course, as humanity in general, ancient traditions are always evolving. For example, the use of metal was integrated into many African traditions and religious discourse (like Ogun in Yoruba). Same for other modern technology and lifestyle. We are always in constant communication with the other side. The sun is always there and influence us even in the night, even if we can't see it directly.

Human societies like individual humans are constantly evolving with a foundation in the past. The same way we are born baby and grow to become adult and wiser. Human societies are on their own path of spiritual development from barbarian to being more civilized and advanced. Of course, this is always done in continuity with the past.


European Congress of Ethnic Religions!
Των Εθνικών Ευρωπαϊκή Εκκλησία!

The purpose of the ECER is to serve as an international body that will assist Ethnic Religious groups in various countries and will oppose discrimination against such groups.

By Ethnic Religion, we mean religion, spirituality, and cosmology that is firmly grounded in a particular people’s traditions. In our view, this does not include modern occult or ariosophic theories/ideologies, nor syncretic neo-religions.

There's many revivalist movements in America and Europe. I respect also the idea of having it grounded firmly in particular people's traditions, so those are not new religions but spiritual traditions passed down from their ancestors. New religions are fine too, I support religious tolerance in all its form (**when reciprocal of course**) but they don't carry the same weight imo, as anybody can make himself a prophet. True ethnic religion are firmly grounded in a particular people's tradition. Constantly evolving in continuity with the past.

Unity in Diversity

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Nairaland / General / Re: Its Ok. We Will Rebuild Nairaland Together by AmunRaOlodumare: 1:24am On Jun 30, 2014
alnaijiri: God-willing, Nairaland will rise again, and will be used to spread Islam throughout Nigeria and all of Africa, and bring justice to the oppressed Muslims everywhere.

SAY NO TO THE EVIL THAT IS PAGANISM!
^^^religious bigot!
Religion / Africa’s Love Supreme : Connecting Africans With Their Ancestors Everywhere by AmunRaOlodumare: 2:13am On Jun 29, 2014
Africa’s love supreme

Conference to explore intimacy and joy in faith traditions

A conference April 11 at Harvard will examine varieties of “Love Supreme” in the faith traditions of the African diaspora. Scholars, students, artists, and elders will investigate and celebrate practices that, more often than not, were scattered through the world on the dark wings of the slave trade.

“These are traditions that are right under people’s noses,” said co-organizer Funlayo E. Wood, a Harvard Ph.D. candidate in African and African American Studies whose primary field is religion. “The more they learn, the more they see these traditions everywhere.”

Wood directs the African and Diasporic Religious Studies Association, now two years old. (A year ago, its first conference delved into the theme of divine spaces.) It is the only academic group in the United States devoted exclusively to studying the faith traditions indigenous to Africa as well as those of the African diaspora.

The names of the faiths sound as venerable as the practices themselves. Ifá-Òrìsà is a spiritual practice that originated with the Yoruba of present-day Nigeria. (Wood is an Òrìsà priestess.) Akan traditions originated with the original people of parts of Ghana and the Ivory Coast. The rituals of Dagara arose out of present-day Burkina Faso. (Sobonfu Somé, a practitioner, will deliver the day’s keynote.) Vodou originated in Haiti when it was a French slave colony. Ifá, a West African divination system, is part of the Ifá-Òrìsà faith practiced at Ile Omo Ope, a shrine in Harlem.

The shrine’s chief priest, Awo Oluwole Ifakunle Adetutu Alagbede, will open the conference Friday morning with a libation. Last year, he remarked on the stable and unpretentious ethic behind many diasporic traditions. “Christians look toward the sky,” he said of his water blessing. “We look toward the ground.”

Registrants — 100 so far, with another 50 expected — will get a day of grounding in traditions that emphasize family, stability, and community. The dozen or so presenters and panelists will include American scholars and graduate students, a novelist (Jamaica Kincaid), a painter, a dancer, a filmmaker, and a sexuality counselor.

The counselor, DeShannon Bowens, is a psychotherapist and interfaith minister who spoke at last year’s conference on the legacy of intimate trauma among people of African descent. This year she will talk about Ifá perspectives on sexuality and connection. “As an Òrìsà priestess of the Yoruba-Ifá tradition,” said Bowens, “I know African indigenous religious practitioners have something valuable to bring to conversations about sexuality and religion.”

The sexuality panel has a lighter side too. For one, its called “Ooh Ahh Tcha Tcha: Hypersex, Healing Sex, and Sonic Ecstasy.” (The “sonic” refers to a presentation on Vodou’s ritual rattle by Kyrah M. Daniels, a Ph.D. candidate in the same Harvard program as Wood.)

Daniels also helped organize the conference, along with first-year doctoral student Khytie Brown and Florida State University doctoral student Lisa Osunletia Beckley-Roberts.

“Love and Devotion,” said Wood of the conference’s main themes. “It’s important to keep those in balance. Too much love can make you blind, too much devotion can make you a slave.” Negotiating those states of mind is important, she said, “and negotiation is part of what the conference seeks to explore.”

Another panel will look at the “intimate spaces” of marriage, child rearing, and community building. In diasporic religious traditions from Africa “the language is a lot more relational,” said Wood, focusing on community and intimacy rather than simply personal salvation.

The conference will include Zumbi Grey, who represents a sort of kinetic diaspora, though one with overtones of spirituality and community. He is a practitioner of capoeira, a Brazilian martial art that originated a fighting practice that slaves disguised as a form of dance. (The root word comes from Angola.)

Dancer, cultural anthropologist, and historian Nzinga Metzger will look at another kinetic angle — “Dancing in Love and Devotion for Òrìsà” — during an afternoon arts roundtable. “Art, music, and dance are hugely important within the practice of African traditions,” said Wood.

“Film is a relatively new medium,” she added, “and it’s really important [for educating] people who don’t take classes or go to conferences.” (Filmmaker Dalian Adofo — co-director of the documentary “Ancestral Voices: Esoteric African Knowledge” — will be on the roundtable. A film festival on Saturday will follow the conference. Viewers are welcome at the Center for the Study of World Regions, 42 Francis Ave.)

The Los Angeles visual artist Bernard Hoyes, set to participate in an afternoon arts roundtable, embodies the creative African diaspora. He grew up in Jamaica, with little formal schooling until age 10. Instead, he spent all his time with a great-aunt who led a “band”: a cult of believers, he said, who drew from their African roots a cosmology of heavenly, earthly, and “ground” spirits.

There was also drumming, dancing, and — from Christian influences — hymn-singing and readings from the King James Bible. After all, elsewhere in the Caribbean Vodou had cloaked itself “in the guise of the saints,” said Hoyes. “We were able to embrace other religions, and still keep African religions.”

By the time he moved to New York City, at 15, “my spiritual inclination was very deep,” Hoyes said. Becoming an artist seemed natural, although before moving back to Jamaica at 25 he had veered into a world of abstract art that left him unsatisfied. “All of a sudden I hit a wall,” said Hoyes, until “I realized my affiliation with the revived cults. Things started to come back to me.”

Spirituality comes down to feeling a kind of ecstasy in the everyday world, and to feeling present in the world, he said of both his art and the conference. “You can live in struggle,” said Hoyes, “or you can live in the joy of your ancestors.”

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/04/africas-love-supreme/
Culture / Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 10:09pm On Jan 09, 2014
I won't force you to accept anything you don't want to know or believe in, but books published by the Cambridge University Press are peer-reviewed.
Culture / Re: The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 4:16pm On Jan 09, 2014
Well, frankly, you can ignore it if you want but there's no point in trying to hide the sun with your hand. There's hasn't been much published on Meroitic since 2012 period but Rilly, a French scholar, is a well known and respected specialist in the field, if not *the* specialist on Meroitic.
Culture / The Meroitic Language Is Deciphered And It Is A Nilo-saharan (black African) One by AmunRaOlodumare: 7:42pm On Jan 04, 2014
I got in my hand the book called The Meroitic Language and Writing System By Rilly and Voogt
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In the Conclusion (p.174) you can read:
Both the lexical and morphological correspondences have left no doubt that the Meroitic language shares an origin with Nilo-Saharan Group of North Eastern Sudanic.

It adds on p177:

These lexical elements direct the Urheimat toward the Sahel region rather than the Nile. The geographic distribution of the NES languages follows the same idea. Out of the three branches of North Eastern Sudanic, Taman and Nyima are the last to split off and are found in the Darfur-Kordofan region. If the principle of least movement is followed, this would also be the area of origin for the Nubians. It is likely that here proto-NES first appeared.


It must also be noted that while modern Nubian languages, like Nobiin, are closely related to the Meroitic language, they are not a child language to Meroitic but a sister language. Nubian languages doesn't descend from Meroitic, they both share a common ancestor language.

The movements of the Proto-Nubians, the third group of the Eastern branch, are more difficult to reconstruct. As argued elsewhere (Rilly 2008), it is not plausible that they ever reached the Nile prior to the end of the Meroitic Kingdom in the third century AD. On the other hand, the chronology of phonetics changes in the Nubian languages indicates that the split in the Nubian groups did not occur much prior to this date. The proximity of proto-Nubian and Meroitic , despite two millennia of separation, and Meroitic's conservative character in relation to proto-NES are such that they presuppose a relatively isolated position during a long period. The phonology of proto-Nubian, for instance, was not affected by influences that changed Meroitic or Nyimang phonology. It is likely that the Proto-Nubians were nomads wandering between still hospitable zones until the first millennium BC. Some portion of the middle part of Wadi Howar or the valley of Gebel Tageru may have served that purpose.


It must be said that this also goes in line with the neolithic remains (I wanted to post a University of Khartoum pdf about it here, but can't) in Sudan which shows A-M13 being the main haplogroup among early settlers with other haplogroups joining later on along the years up to recent time. A-M13 is prevalent in Sudan among modern day Dinka (62%), Shilluk (53%), Borgu (35%).
Politics / Re: The Chinese Are Exploiting Africa (Ghana Case Study) (black People Wake Up) by AmunRaOlodumare: 3:26am On Dec 30, 2013
When you read those type of anti-chinese article in western press, tell yourself that it tells much more about the western government and media mouthpiece own fear about China than anything else.

Ultimately it's a good thing since this world become more and more a multipolar world, thus upsetting the US sole dominance.

As they say, can't rape the willing. As long as China don't kill our leaders like Sankara and Lumumba, or demonized others because they don't abide by the economic neo-liberal dictates like the US gov and a few others does, then it's a problem we can solve ourselves. Our countries can instigate the appropriate law, rules and regulations to protect the local market and favor the development of locally owned enterprises. Even China is still not fully open market (the US gov often whine about it) and they waited for many decades to open their market and even then with still a lot of regulations and restrictions regarding foreign investment, imports, etc in their country. A lot of Asian countries like South Korea, India, Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia also had or have regulations restricting foreign investments in certain sectors (positive list, negative list, etc), while promoting trading and sponsoring the local development of enterprises, education and local research R&D.

With China, unlike the western gov which constantly try to put their noses in our (political, economic) businesses hiding behind concept such as human right, anti-terrorism, anti-drug war, and democracy to push for their own interests. Even assassinating some of our leaders such as Lumumba and try to demonized others. We almost never hear, Brazil or Japan putting their noses in our businesses, only western countries especially the US gov and ex-colonial countries. For example, Japan, Korea, Argentina never tries to tell us which leaders we should vote or not. Or which economic policy (like open market), we should adopt. Or even which political system.

It's important for any nations to promote trading. The diversification of trading partners is important so we don't become too dependent on only one region. But more importantly we must promote the development and protection of local enterprises. Education, R&D (academic, private enterprises, military, parastatals), local and foreign financing tools, support and protection to local enterprises, etc should be some of the main aspects.

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Politics / Re: PETITION TO RECONSTRUCT NIGERIANS's ARCHAEOLOGICAL PYRAMIDS by AmunRaOlodumare: 1:34am On Dec 30, 2013
While Ancient Egyptians were imo black Africans. Consider the DNA tribes analysis of the STR value of ancient mummies or the fact that Ramses III is determined to be E1b1a (E-M2), among many other things. But the site was already excavated by the Niger government. Those are not pyramids but rock formations from an earlier era. I read an article about it a few years ago.
Culture / Re: What Is The Race Of The Ancient Egyptians by AmunRaOlodumare: 1:29am On Dec 30, 2013
"Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as "blacks", while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans.” - Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt (2001)
Culture / Early History Of The Niger-congo Speakers (igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, Mande, Etc) by AmunRaOlodumare: 12:42am On Dec 30, 2013
In linguistic and history when a group of people share the same linguistic phylum, it means that at one time their ancestors were once part of the same population (beside in cases of language shift). For example, all Niger-congo speakers were at one time, in one location and all were speaking a language we can call proto-Niger-Congo. Same thing for proto-Mande-Congo people. All proto-Mande-Congo descendant languages (Igbo, Yoruba, Wolof, Fulani, Mande, Bantu, Kongo, etc) are all descended from the same population who were once speaking a language we can call proto-Mande-Congo. In linguistic, we say those languages have a genetic relationship between one another. See below:



This was taken from the book:


In the book, you can also read about the Niger-Congo people history:
The first expansion of Niger-Congo peoples appears to have stretched from as far east as the Nuba Mountains of Sudan, where proto-Kordofanian would have been spoken, to as far west as Mali, anciently the territory of the Mande and Atlantic-Congo branches. Just how long ago this period of expansion took place remains unknown.
Basically, here it says the Niger-Congo speakers (also called Niger-Kordofanian) had their origin in the far east around the Nuba Mountains in Sudan (Kordofan region) and that they then spread to as far west as Mali in West Africa for their first expansion. It can also be noted that the E-M2 (E1b1a) haplogroup also is said to have its origin in the same approximate region. An haplogroup widespread among Niger-Congo speakers along with other haplogroups.

So basically, Niger-Congo speakers all have the major part of their origin from Sudan at a time probably preceding the Green Sahara period (with the northward shift of monsoon rains for many century). The Green Sahara period could relate to the period of expansion of Niger-Congo speakers toward the then green sahara to eventually reach Mali in West Africa.

Niger-congo speakers could also be behind the development of pottery in West Africa, since the earliest date for ceramic in Africa is from Ounjougou in Mali. It is mentionned in the book History and the Testimony of Language (2011):

The ceramic technology of these peoples directs the attention of historians to a very important story for world history—namely, the global primacy of sub-Saharan Africans in the invention of ceramic technology. Pottery making was already a fully established and not at all incipient technology in the archaeology of the southern half of the eastern Sahara by 8500 BCE, as early as the claimed dates for pottery in Japan. But Saharan pottery making was not even the first ceramic technology in Africa. The earliest known pottery in all of human history comes from West Africa, from the modern-day country of Mali, and dates to the centuries 10,000–9500 BCE. The archaeology of the makers of this pottery belongs to the West African Micro-lithic Complex,39 a set of archaeological traditions everywhere associated with peoples speaking languages of a third African family, Niger-Congo. For historians the question still to be answered is, did ceramic technology among nilo-saharan speakers in the eastern and other parts of the sahara diffuse to them a thousand or more years later from far-away West Africa, or were these two separate and independent African developments of this key early technology?


Then from the same book African Languages: An Introduction (Nurse 2000) from above:
A second, but still early and important stage in Niger-Congo history was the proto-Mande-Congo era. At this period, or so it appears from the evidence of word histories, the cultivation of Guinea Yam and possibly other crops, such as the oil palm, began among at least the peoples of the Atlantic and Ijo-Congo branches of the family (Williamson 1993 proposes the early words for these crops; Greenberg 1964 identifies an Atlantic and Ijo-Congo verb for cultivation,*-lim-). Between possibly about 8000 and 6000 BC, these peoples spread across the woodland savannas of West Africa, the natural environment of the Guinea yams. At that time, woodland savanna environments extended several hundred kilometers farther north into the Sudan belt than they do today. (Edit:Green Sahara period)
Here it posit that Ancient Niger-Congo speakers may have expanded demographically and geographically in West Africa while bringing with them yams and other crops cultivation(palm tree, raffia palm tree, black-eyes peas and voandzeia) while domesticating the guineafowl (among other things).

Before their migration in West Africa from the north . West Africa was probably inhabited by small groups of hunters gatherers. Almost no traces of previous population in West Africa exist beside maybe remnant in the the Jalaa and Laal languages. We can also note the A00 haplogroup found recently among African-American and West African people. The first group to split from the rest of the human populations (and vice versa, that is the other humans are the first group to split from them). Which could also be some remnant of previous hunter gatherers populations in West Africa.

In this book:


It describes the situation before the migration of Niger-Congo speakers in West Africa this way:
For whatever reason, West Africa was only populated extremely sparsely until the end of the Pleistocene, some 12,000 years ago (Muzzolini 1993).

Adding:

One feature of the Niger-Congo region is the virtual absence of residual languages. What languages the MSA hunter-gatherers spoke must remain unknown. Only in Southern Africa, where the expanding Bantu-speakers encountered the Khoesan, does a real mosaic of farmers and hunter-gatherers still exist. But within much of the core Niger-Congo area, only Jalaa in Nigeria and Laal in Chad (see Table 8.1 and Map 8.1) seem to be true remnants of an earlier diversity that must have characterised the continent. These fragments both hint at a more ancient stratum of hunting-gathering populations in West Africa, present at the time of the Niger-Congo expansion but almost completely absorbed by them. Niger-Congo must have expanded and assimilated all the resident groups and must therefore have had highly convincing technological or societal tools to bring this about.

Then we got a more precision from this book:



Agricultural Invention: West African Planting Agriculture, 9000-5500 BCE

To the south of the Sahara, African peoples found other innovative ways to respond to climatic shifts that emerged by 11,000 BCE. None of these at first entailed the adoption of agriculture but were instead approaches that enhanced the productivity of the wild environment.

In West Africa a variety of consequences was set in motion by the increased rainfall between 11,500 and 8000 BCE. All across a 300- to 400-kilometer-side zone extending inland from the Atlantic coast, from Senegambia in the west to Cameroon in the east, woodland savanna was replaced by expanding rainforests. In Cameroon the spread of the West African forest zone connected up with the newly expanding equatorial rainforest of central Africa. The woodland savanna belt shifted nortward into the previously open savanna areas of the southern Djouf Basin. In addition, stream flow increased, and more rivers than before ran year round.

The shift to still wetter climate in West Africa during and after the ninth millennium BCE had different effects in different areas. Increased river flow enhanced the possibilities for fishing, and the nortward advance of woodland savanna opened up new areas favorable to yams. At the same time, however, many areas nearer the coast that were previously covered by moist woodland savanna began to be swallowed up by the expanding rainforest, in which there was too little direct sunlight to support the particular yam species favored by the Niger-Congo peoples.

But it was also the period in West African history in which a new African agriculture was invented. We do not know yet when some of the Niger-Congo communities commenced the shift to deliberate cultivation of yams, not exactly where. The most probably answer is that the changeover began sometime around 8000 BCE and that the locales of the first yam agriculture lay in the intermediate parts of the West African woodland savana zone -in areas where the abundance of wild yams had declined with the spread of woodland conditions, but where a farmer's efforts in preparing the ground and planting and protecting the growing plants could effectivly reverse that decline.

We can this new and independent invention "West African planting agriculture," from the fact that the farmers reproduced their staple (most important) crops, the different types of West African yam, not by sowing seed, but by planting a part of the yam itself back in the ground. These early West African farmers by no means restricted their agricultural experimentation, however, to just yams. They domesticated one animal, the guineafowl, at probably an early stage in their development of food production. From an early period they also tended to two tree crops, the oil palm and the raffia palm. The oil palm provided cooking oil for its nuts as well as palm wine from its sap; the raffia palm was another source of palm wine, and by the fourth or third millennium BCE its fibers and become highly valued by West Africans for the weaving of raffia cloth. In the woodland savannas of modern-day Nigeria and Cameroon. Niger-Congo communities brought under cultivation two major food plants grown from seed, black-eyes peas and voandzeia (and African groundnut), probably as early as the sixth and fifth millennia. Okra was still another quite early crop of Niger-Congo farmers, while the kola nut, a tree crop of the West African rainforest, became important later, in the last 3000 years BCE. The inventors of this agriculture, by the way, were women, who in pre-agricultural eras and borne the chief responsibility for collecting of wild yams and other wild plant foods.

Gradually an important new development in technology took hold along with the new economy. Niger-Congo peoples began to make polished stone axes, in this way becoming able to effectively clear patches of woodlands and grow their sunlight-requiring yams and oil palms in more and more areas.

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Religion / Re: Are African Traditional Religions Syncretic In Nature (between One Another)? by AmunRaOlodumare: 12:07pm On Nov 02, 2013
Uyi Iredia: ^^^That's one way of looking at it. But the same applies to paganism eg Akhenaten's worship of Ra. And there is another side you don't consider: that pagan elements_Roman paganism_were infused in Christianity to make the Catholic church. The same happened to the Catholic church in Brazil but this time various elements of African traditional worship were in infused especially Ifa religions. Islam acknowledges certain aspects of Christianity especially its monotheistic nature and the acknowledgment of prophets in the Bible. Need I elaborate how Judaism became Christianity. Even further back I strongly suspect based on hints from different sources that Judaism and Christianity sttongly draw from pagan religion especially ancient Egyptian worship eg the word Amen is said to be derived from the Egyptian word Amun which denotes the hidden creative force responsible for the origin of the Egyptian gods and reality by extension.
I guess we can look at it in different ways. But what is for sure, is that when Abrahamic religions refer to African, Hindu, Shinto or whatever religions as 'pagans'. They don't do it out of respect, tolerance or with a syncretic mindset. For them, pagan is a pejorative word. Even practicing other abrahamic religions like Islam, and Judaism, or other demomination like catholic or protestant is causing them problems. Ultimately, their goals is always to convert someone to their religions which happens to be the best one.

Traditional religions don't have that same kind of intolerance, or some kind of competition, there is between Abrahamic religions as if one was better than the other (islam vs christianity vs hindu, vs protestant, vs...). I don't know if you can understand but it goes at a deep level. It's a completely different mindset.

I won't lie to you. I think it's a mindset that is more respectful of the cultural, religious, ethnic, and linguistic diversity of our world.

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