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Christianity Etc › Re: . by An2elect2(f): 5:57am On Jul 16, 2017

Hier:
I saw your signature, saying we can't win or lose our salvation. I need enlightenment ma

Thank you. The Bible teaches eternal security and is clear about us being saved by grace through faith which is not of ourselves Ephesians 2:8,9.

Here is a short article that is helpful

When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their eternal security. Jude 24 declares, "To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy." God's power is able to keep the believer from falling. It is up to Him, not us, to present us before His glorious presence. Our eternal security is a result of God keeping us, not us maintaining our own salvation.

The Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed, "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand" (John 10:28-29b). Both Jesus and the Father have us firmly grasped in their hand. Who could possibly separate us from the grip of both the Father and the Son?

Ephesians 4:30 tells us that believers are "sealed for the day of redemption." If believers did not have eternal security, the sealing could not truly be unto the day of redemption, but only to the day of sinning, apostasy, or disbelief. John 3:15-16 tells us that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If a person were to be promised eternal life, but then have it taken away, it was never "eternal" to begin with. If eternal security is not true, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.

The most powerful argument for eternal security is Romans 8:38-39, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Our eternal security is based on God's love for those whom He has redeemed. Our eternal security is purchased by Christ, promised by the Father, and sealed by the Holy Spirit.
https://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-security.html

Christianity Etc › Re: Forget About Atheists, Are You Really Saved? by An2elect2(op): 5:45am On Jul 16, 2017*

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Christianity Etc › Forget About Atheists, Are You Really Saved? by An2elect2(op): 5:39am On Jul 16, 2017

The New Testament is replete with warnings and indications that many who claim to be Christians are not Christians in actuality. The professing church is full of people who claim to have faith, show some appearance of sincerity, but then stray away after false teachings and/or worldly pleasures. It is essential for Christians to maintain a biblical worldview about these people--they did NOT "lose their salvation."

Here is a difficult fact: just because someone gets really excited about Jesus for a while does not mean that they're genuinely saved. In fact, the Bible describes how eerily legitimate the counterfeit Christians can appear. But appearances are deceiving; a child of Satan can be extremely religious, completely through the power of the flesh.

There's nothing unexplainable about a worldly person adopting a radically new lifestyle--it happens in cults all the time! Unbelievers can kick in their addictions too! Pagans know how to put on an external show. Becoming attached (or even obsessed) with a religious movement does not mean a person has been born of the Holy Spirit!

Just look at the Biblical descriptions of false converts:
-honor Jesus, but only with their lips (Matt 15:8 )
-worship Jesus, but in vain (Matt 15:9)
-have 'faith,' but not saving faith (James 2:19)
-have 'grief,' but not godly grief (2Cor 7:9-10)
-receive the word with joy, but for a while (Luke 8:13)
-have the appearance of godliness (2Tim 3:5)
-follow after signs (John 2:23)
-desire power of the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:19)
-desire to inherit a blessing (Heb 12:7)
-call Jesus 'Lord, Lord' (Matt 7:21)

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We are not surprised at the passion and religiosity of the children of darkness. False teachers and evil workers can be every bit as hard-working as a genuine saint of God, and sometimes even more knowledgeable about Scripture. They can appear to be wild about "Jesus" (a caricature of the real Christ). They can show sincerity for humanitarian causes (so do unbelievers). They can reform their lives (so do cult members). They can preach eloquent sermons that have a lot of truth in them (exactly as expected from Satan's deceitful workers). These outward signs do NOT guarantee a spiritual reality. The Bible guarantees us that Satan will be mimicking Christianity (2Cor 11:13-15; Acts 16:16).

Stop being surprised!
In Jesus' own words, He calls false converts:
-sons of the evil one (Matt 13:38)
-"I NEVER knew you." (Matt 7:23)
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Apostle John delivers a helpful final word on the subject.
First John 2:19
"They went out from us,
but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us,
they would have continued with us.
But they went out,
that it might become plain
that they all are not of us."

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What are the marks of a true Christian? A true Christian believes in the true gospel of the true Christ: that Jesus Christ bore the wrath of God in place of sinners, died and rose again. The sinner who believes the gospel is made into a new creation (2Co 5:17), sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13-14), and spiritually transformed to have a new direction toward holiness and a Christ-centered worldview.
A true Christian recognizes his utter sinfulness, crying out for God's mercy (Lk 18:13). A true Christian holds fast to the truth and abides in Christ's word (Jn 8:31). A true Christian has turned from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God (Acts 26:18). A true Christian has genuine faith that produces good works (Jms 2:17), and bears fruits which keep with repentance (Mt 3:8 ). A true Christian does not love the world or worldly things (1Jn 2:15), but instead loves Christ before everything (Lk 14:26-27). A true Christian is characterized by love of righteousness and loves other Christians, embraces what is good, and shuns what is evil (Rom 12:9). A true Christian expresses a pattern of obedience to Christ (Jn 14:15). The Christian will not be perfect, but certainly changed!

Amen

// Grace Multiplied //

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Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Charges N40,000 For Deliverance On OLX In Ibadan (Photo) by An2elect2(f): 8:50pm On Jul 14, 2017

durentchigozie:
And so?
Watch church goers come hère to bash him. Is he any worse what your daddies in thé lord? Daddy adeboye, kumuyi and all softwork "prosperity teaching" scum men of god that extorts you even more than 40k on a weekly basis.??
Rubbish.

Thank you

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Message To Atheists And God Mockers by An2elect2(f): 8:41pm On Jul 14, 2017

Suspect33:
Not all who claim to be Christians are true followers of Jesus Christ, The bible clearly states "love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you and bless those who curse you", any body that insults an atheist and claims to be a christian is a lair because he disobeyed Gods commandment of love which sums up all other commandment, "by their fruits you shall know them".

Forget about atheists, has God quickened you?

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Christianity Etc › Re: . by An2elect2(f): 12:22pm On Jul 14, 2017

Please run away cos it appears you don't even know God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion? Really? by An2elect2(f): 6:23am On Jul 14, 2017

Martinez19:
replying my questions with a question. I don't care what they call there faith, but voicing out fallacies of religion is not limited to religious folks alone. Now answer my questions.

Nope. It's a waste.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion? Really? by An2elect2(f): 8:32pm On Jul 13, 2017

Martinez19:
what makes it stupid? How invalid are my points? I dear you to answer these questions. It seems once someone posts something against the ideology of theists, they pointlessly label it stupid, nonsensical etc. I dear you to tell me how this thread is stupid without insulting my intelligence.

Why do you care what theists want to call their faith? You would have made sense if you were one.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Not A Religion? Really? by An2elect2(f): 8:15pm On Jul 13, 2017

Sigh, just another stupid thread with a good title

Christianity Etc › Re: The Hypocrisy Behind "God Looks At The Heart And Not The Outward Appearance". by An2elect2(f): 11:36am On Jul 13, 2017

stonemasonn:
so who gets to decide what a decent appearance should be??

Deeper lifers

Christianity Etc › Re: All In The Name Of I Want A Miracle See What Pastor Said She Shd Do by An2elect2(f): 7:57am On Jul 13, 2017

pressplay411:
This has to be fake story. No one can be this stupid no matter how desperate.

It's simple. When you refuse to genuinely seek God, He gives you over to a reprobate mind...an incomprehensibly stupid mind.

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Christianity Etc › Re: "We Would Soon Be Richer Than IMF And Paris Club" - Bishop Oyedepo by An2elect2(f): 9:13pm On Jul 12, 2017

MrMcJay:
Christianity in Nigeria has lost focus.

Nope.The average non Muslim claiming Christian isn't a Christian.

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Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua Delivers Man Who Moves Around With A Demonic Ring & 3 Scorpions(pics) by An2elect2(f): 9:11pm On Jul 09, 2017

Tb Wolf Joshua Who are you fooling

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Similarities Between Catholicism And Islam; (pics Included) by An2elect2(f): 12:45pm On Jul 09, 2017

And finally they are both false religions...

They both reject Jesus as the mediator between God and man.

While one would rather have Mohammed, they other cannot stand Jesus alone.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 12 Facts You Never Knew About The Nigerian Church by An2elect2(f): 12:38pm On Jul 09, 2017

thesuave10:
LET THEM CONTINUE BUILDING. THE DEVIL IS BUILDING CHURCHES, UNIVERSITIES, SCHHOOLS NIGHT CLUBS FOR THEM TOO IN HELL.

They are all hell bound indeed. Sad that they have no resemblance with Bible Christianity yet this is what is shoved down people's throats as true. Crooks

Christianity Etc › Re: Not Again! Vatican In Another Wild Sexual Scandal by An2elect2(f): 8:20pm On Jul 07, 2017

That's what they know how to do. Bloody apostate system.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Sam Zuga Unveils World Wonders Water In Gboko, Benue (Photos) by An2elect2(f): 10:52am On Jul 07, 2017

Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua Speaks On Buhari's Health, Naira To Hit 650/US1$ by An2elect2(f): 8:01am On Jul 07, 2017

Tb Wolf Joshua.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Simple Faith In The Finished Work Of Christ. by An2elect2(op): 8:30pm On Jul 06, 2017

owoleola:
you are right,you can't work and at same time give God the Glory(unless of course you want to false humility). In fact,God tells us not to share His Glory with Him,He isn't greedy,He was not ready to share the work with us also.

Apt. I like the way you summarised it. The one who works must "by principle" take the praise.

Legalistic self righteous Christians are only deceiving themselves when they agree salvation is by grace but still insist on "freewill" obedience to stay saved. Their salvation is not of God but of themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 8:27am On Jul 06, 2017*

owoleola:
Of all the heresies,I find this one the most shocking

He has no clue

Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 8:25am On Jul 06, 2017

owoleola:
same experience,2015.......,It started with a movie(secular),God Himself touched me,gave me a new heart,I miraculously dropped a terrible habit,His zeal consumed me,I remember I would have to check my calendar to be sure there was going to be service,even when I was already on my way to church because everyday appeared like Sunday,the zeal was that much then.He turned around a situation leading to my shame then,miraculously still.Ever since,I've grown in Him,enjoying His unconditional love,miracles in my life. I am the Lord's elect.

Thank you for sharing!!!

All my posts are for the elect!!!! Glory to God!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Sincere Question by An2elect2(f): 4:46pm On Jul 05, 2017

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Romans 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due ; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 11:55am On Jul 05, 2017

Wilgrea7:
the one Paul didn't corrupt

Christianity Etc › Re: Winning Atheists: The Place Of Personal Character by An2elect2(f): 10:24am On Jul 05, 2017

You have a point. If we argue, post, respond like them how are we different!

To save an atheist soul= Use scriptures
To win the argument and lose him= Use his tool

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Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 10:10am On Jul 05, 2017

Wilgrea7:
there is no salvation by grace... “salvation" comes from obeying the two commandments Jesus put forth (coming from a biblical angle).... but then i still ask... salvation from what? human nature or from desires

Which Bible have you been reading?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 10:08am On Jul 05, 2017

owoleola:
You know what,up till today, I still search to find out whether I have done anything to deserve being saved,and the answer is ABSOLUTE NOTHING

Wow so how did it happen

Christianity Etc › Re: Grace That Is Scary by An2elect2(op): 6:22am On Jul 05, 2017

owoleola:
I should ask you whether you are saved and how it happened,don't you think so?

O yes I was saved in 2012. The Lord quickened me (it wasn't clear to me then that it was Him) and I sought Him (new heart he put in me) and yep I "found" Him and of course received Him.

From then till now I've been preserved by His grace.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by An2elect2(f): 10:48pm On Jul 04, 2017

You call yourself a Christian and think Muslims are your persecutors. You know nada

Your Christianity has not made you part ways with your beloved friends and brought division between you and your relatives? You are a Christian that has no cross to carry?

Even if a Muslim kills you because "you are a Christian" remember that martyrdom can not supercede genuine salvation in Christ.

Instead of worrying over muslims make your election sure then you will not need to worry any more

Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Iginla Doles Out ‘ororo Water’ That Heals, HIV/AIDS, Cancer To Members by An2elect2(f): 10:04pm On Jul 04, 2017

Another crook. So easy to see through

Some wolves don't know how to cover. I can clearly see your strong face behind that transparent fur.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by An2elect2(f): 9:59pm On Jul 04, 2017

owoleola:
Tell me why its important you know

You sound sincere that's why. unlike so many proud legalistic folks I've seen here

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Christian Lose Salvation? by An2elect2(f): 9:06pm On Jul 04, 2017

owoleola:
yes,why did you ask

How did it happen?

Christianity Etc › Re: Signs A Person Loves Money Too Much by An2elect2(f): 2:42pm On Jul 04, 2017

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