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Christianity EtcRe: Why Are We Here? by An2elect2(f): 10:19pm On Jul 29, 2017
foxe:
with due respect sire, God is not what religion portrays
You are so ignorant about this. How can you be wise and not know these things grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are We Here? by An2elect2(f): 9:17pm On Jul 29, 2017
This was one of the questions I asked myself when God brought me to life. It may be the same thing that has happened to you grin For some, it is God hardening them or giving them over to complete rebellion.

I tell you God is so wise, He has made everything to have meaning only in Christ.
When I heard the gospel of Christ and Him crucified, it came to me with power, in afflictions, in much assurance and in the Holy Spirit just exactly as it is stated in the bible. It's that one thing that no man can see but they see the evidence which is a changed life and outlook of things.

Salvation and meaning of life is of God. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Meet Bill Gate The Agnostic PLUS His Religious View - A MUST READ FOR CHRISTIANS by An2elect2(f): 8:46pm On Jul 29, 2017
GoodMuyis:
Sorry, this is not Sunday school sermon. If by chance we take consensus in your church, there are children who are badly brought up in what you see as Christian family, even your so-called church elders children.

Here is someone who doesnt believe in God, but chose to raised his children to know God - shame on you if you cannot learn from that. How many parent have wayward children in church, who is training them?

You see them on the street and passed by, but will come to Nairaland to claim championship in Biblical arguments.

The aim of the Thread is to Educate atheist against bitter attitudes against the religious (Christian inclusive). You can disbelief in God if you like, it doesn't change the fact that Their shall be repentant atheist after rapture
Sorry Bill Gates isn't the standard of what a Christian teacher should be. smiley

There are many theists in hell. I am more concerned about the genuinity of the God a man or woman professes to believe in cool
Christianity EtcRe: PHOTOS: Deeper Life Completes Its Headquarters Church Which Is The World’s 4th L by An2elect2(f):
Being a Bible adherent by God's grace, every time I think of a church I think of a gathering of people but everytime the average person talks about church with me they mean blocks and cements. What a joke gringringrin
Christianity EtcRe: My Body Vibrates Every Nights Help!!! by An2elect2(f): 11:43am On Jul 29, 2017
I suggest you go for medical check up first, sounds like you have fever
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Throwback & Now Photos by An2elect2(f): 11:37am On Jul 29, 2017
Mouthgag:
Before his 419 business boomed undecided
hahahahahha
Christianity EtcRe: Meet Bill Gate The Agnostic PLUS His Religious View - A MUST READ FOR CHRISTIANS by An2elect2(f): 10:13am On Jul 29, 2017
Sorry Bill Gates isn't the standard of what a Christian teacher should be. smiley

There are many theists in hell. I am more concerned about the genuinity of the God a man or woman professes to believe in cool
Christianity EtcRe: You Can Lose Your Salvation Gallantly. by An2elect2(f): 9:51pm On Jul 28, 2017
Such ignorance undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Secret Of My Money - TB Joshua by An2elect2(f): 3:11pm On Jul 26, 2017
barawo judgement is coming
Christianity EtcRe: Father Ejike Mbaka Celebrates 22nd Priestly Anniversary by An2elect2(f): 3:09pm On Jul 26, 2017
Nwakaumu:
Mbaka is a fake prophet.
So true
Christianity EtcRe: Father Ejike Mbaka Celebrates 22nd Priestly Anniversary by An2elect2(f): 3:06pm On Jul 26, 2017
abishi11:
wolf in sheep klothing
Gbam
Christianity EtcRe: Blood Groups SS Turns To AA As Propeht Joshua Iginla Ministers To Siblings by An2elect2(f): 2:39pm On Jul 26, 2017
grin grin grin grin There we go again
Christianity EtcRe: A Born Again Can't Lose His/ Her Salvation....... by An2elect2(f): 9:53am On Jul 26, 2017
johnydon22:
For this to be further stretched you must first of all tell us how someone can attain the state of being born again.

Is being a born again inherent or is it something you attain/gain through a particular way?

If it is inherent then surely you are correct that it cannot be lost.

If it is not inherent but depends on a particular action, belief or conviction by the person in question then how so can it not be lost?

Analice107, An2elect2, KingEbukasBlog. This OP is for you lot I guess invite others
Thank you. To be born again simply means to be regenerated, brought to life by the Spirit of God. We cannot say it is inherent because that would be illogical and false. If something is inherent then it must be something that comes with our natural birth however we are looking at "being born the second time"

No man can attain this state because it is solely the work of God. The scriptures teach that men are born dead spiritually and it is from this state of total loss of relationship with God, spiritual blindness and deafness that they live their lives. Then if they must receive the things of God, see Jesus and hear the Shepherd's voice, they must be brought to life first for a dead man cannot do all those things. These are clearly seen in John 1:12,13. Ephesians 2:1,2. Life must precede faith, thirst, hunger, repentance, fellowship, etc. If we have these coming before Life then we have our theology in falsehood. So no one who understands this should be surprised by empty professors who only have a form of godliness but no power.


And yes salvation cannot be lost because it is by grace. Grace means not deserved favour. If we can "lose our salvation" then it cannot be by grace but by our work, or faith or perseverance. But we are preserved by God through lots of suffering,crosses, chastisement, afflictions, etc This have a strong hold on us that they cause us to endure to the end.

We are told to be responsible but still not forgetting the truth that it is God that works in us to be productive. Legalistic Christians only overemphasize the responsibility thereby placing the burden of works on themselves. No wonder they follow traditions of men and only have an outward show being enchanted by the thoughts or beauty of heaven with no real regard for God. Not having the Lord as the worker(author and finisher of our faith) in us has a lot of implications
Christianity EtcRe: Deafness Instant Healing At Cec Srilanka India by An2elect2(f): 11:45am On Jul 25, 2017
Gombs:
https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/ceob.gif

Dear lord... Did you watch the video at all?

Aside common sense,what else are you lacking? grin grin grin
gringrin I am here being ashamed of you and embarrassed on your behalf Hahahaha
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Not 4evergod: Emmanystone And Spectacular Are by An2elect2(f): 11:36am On Jul 25, 2017
felixomor:
You are an atheist
Go and Sleep cool
You are deluded. You call black white and vice versa. Glad you think I'm an atheist grin

False Christian grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Not 4evergod: Emmanystone And Spectacular Are by An2elect2(f): 11:26am On Jul 25, 2017
felixomor:
hehehe,
You will always support the evil of atheists on this website.

I am not surprised.
That is why you fight with all christians.

Be delivered in Jesus Name.
Mr Felixomor the Bible says I should be weary of people like you not atheists. grin Atheists are no threat to the faith but false Christians and wolves parading as sheep in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ...

I would continue to support exposing you all grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Not 4evergod: Emmanystone And Spectacular Are by An2elect2(f): 11:13am On Jul 25, 2017
Look at how felixomor finally embarrassed himself grin Defender of false prophets, crooks and now impostors.. A man with very un-Christian like behaviour. grin

Judgement will start in Zion and woe to those who are at ease!
Christianity EtcRe: Deafness Instant Healing At Cec Srilanka India by An2elect2(f): 9:37am On Jul 25, 2017
no shame
our resident pastor Wolf Agbaje grin
Christianity EtcRe: Apostle Suleman Pays 2yrs School Fees For A University Lady In Umuahia(pics) by An2elect2(f): 8:11pm On Jul 24, 2017
Now, that's a perfect description of a Pharisee. grin

Only one man is a hypocrite, adulterer, wolf, thief, heretic... And you say he is a man of God, I laff in kanuri hahahahihihihi
Christianity EtcRe: "Every Gang Up Against Christianity In Nigeria Will Not Stand" - Oyedepo Prays by An2elect2(f): 11:45am On Jul 23, 2017
richebony:
I didn't know we have a philanthropist and a theologist in our midst here ooo...naira land sure has talents... smiley
Theology is a talent?? grin
Christianity EtcRe: "Every Gang Up Against Christianity In Nigeria Will Not Stand" - Oyedepo Prays by An2elect2(f): 11:31am On Jul 23, 2017
5DMindset:
Most of those who criticize Oyedepo are not Muslims, but Christians and 'the confused'.

Why is that ?
Mr Oyedepo is a heretic, a wolf and an arrogant thief. He exposes himself as biblically clueless every time he opens his mouth

grin Mr Wolf Oyedepo
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by An2elect2(f): 2:37pm On Jul 21, 2017
Freewillers have terrible logic.
If God specially loves everyone like they say how come some would end up in hell.

He saw some would go to hell why didn't He quit creating them. Or better still If the All powerful God loves every individual why won't He do everything possible to save them since He loves them and can save them.

I tell you, God does not love every individual like some people are saying in a bid to make God appear inoffensive. There were two brothers and God said He loved one and hated the other. And why? because they did something? That's a lie. They didn't do anything, even before they were born, their lives had been determined.

Freewillers stop embarrassing yourselves and bringing shame to Christianity. You are trying to help God with your free will ideology and make Him appear "good" to mankind and that's a terrible thing to do because you are taking away His glory.

God is the Potter and men the clay. He makes us the way He wants us. Some for honour others for destruction. This is very true and keeps all men at the mercy of God. Now, won't you despair of yourself and come to this God who takes no counsel from mortals? Who is under no obligation to save anyone? God cannot be termed wicked or the doer of evil because there is no law binding Him. He is sovereign and above the law. What will you do with Him?

Hate Him or love Him but don't you tell a lie about Him or make Him look like a man undecided
Christianity EtcRe: My Personal Testimony (the Crypter) by An2elect2(f): 9:01am On Jul 21, 2017
SMH. No resemblance with the true Spirit of Christ in the Bible. All we need are in the Bible, keep your special message to yourself, it's not even Special, the devil has been using this for a very long time now grin

My people beware of false prophets and prophetess'. Test everything, everything!!
Christianity EtcRe: Babies Born To Muslims Will Begin To Outnumber Christian Births By 2035 by An2elect2(f): 5:29pm On Jul 18, 2017
It's easier to run into a dinosaur than a Christian so what are you saying huh
Christianity EtcRe: . by An2elect2(f): 4:23pm On Jul 17, 2017
Hier:
If we win salvation then its no more by faith.
True

Faith is by works , we won't receive eternal salvation if we don't confess. Our confession is a work which is also faith
Not really. Faith isn't equal to work. One is borne out of the other. Faith births works. Genuine Faith that is. So if we believe in our hearts, we would confess unto salvation. "unto" does not mean we were saved by by confession/work that would contradict Salvation by grace through faith. Rather we were were saved and received eternal life when we believed and then we inevitably confessed our faith. Inshort they happen so simultaneously that we cannot have one without the other But there is sequence. Faith first. Through it is a man saved. "whosoever believes has eternal life"
And whosoever has eternal life will not be mute but must surely confess it out.

But here is the problem. Many men have not this faith that by itself produces works in a man. And since they have not this faith, they go about establishing their own works and falsely equating it to faith like you just did wink If we won't receive eternal life until we confess then eternal life cannot be a gift but a reward for our righteous choice. But salvation is by grace through faith and this is not our doing but God's


One can draw back in the faith and as a result lose their salvation.
Paul said we are not of them that draws back unto perdition.
The Bible is very clear about those who draw back, says they were never saved to begin with. This is well detailed in my last thread.

1 john 2:1, "this thing I write unto you that you sin not" writing to the saints in the church
OK...
Well, I still don't understand the concept behind eternal salvation, but my opinion is, once any1 sin, he's likened to the prodigal son who lost his salvation and his fellowship and he realised that and came back.
Okay. So you think each time we sin we lose our salvation and then we have to do something (like coming back to our senses) to get it back but that would contradict the Bible. In the Bible no man was, is and would ever be saved except solely by grace. Grace means you don't deserve to be saved but someone bought your pardon with his blood. If you lose it when you sin, we would need another sinless person to shed his blood again and this would be an every minute, hour or day sacrifice, worse than the old covenant. Because without shedding of blood there can be no remission of sin. But thank God we are saved by grace. If we sin we confess to God who gives genuine repentance and turns us away from that lifestyle. Not you, but God does all these things inside of you.
I think we need to read more of Matthew, Mark Luke and John and put them first always and not only that, using those four book as a guide in interpreting whatever the Bible state thereafter.
Thanks
I see what you are doing but my advice to you would be to go to God and he would teach you himself. You won't have to follow your own understanding but rely on Him cos there are so many things God has hidden from the world and only shows those that come with humility
Christianity EtcRe: Giving Out Cars Didn’t Make Me Prosper; It Was A Seed Of N50 – Pro Joshua Iginla by An2elect2(f): 6:50am On Jul 17, 2017
Thief
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did Jesus Say This : My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me? Mark 15:34 by An2elect2(f): 10:24pm On Jul 16, 2017
olamkas:
why then did Jesus complained of this if he was aware of what he came for? in another place in the bible, Jesus prayed for the cup to pass over him and bible made us know his prayer was answered, how then did he still come to the cross?
Jesus didn't complain but was burdened by what was to befall Him. He told his disciples he would rebuild the temple in 3days. Not only was he prepared to die, it was His plan from the beginning. Even the means to his death were ordained by Him.

when he prayed at Gethsemane, he wasnt complaining but submitting to the Father's will . And nopy, the cup didnt pass over him.

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he fell with his face
to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it
is possible, may this cup be taken from
me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.
Christianity EtcRe: Heaven Helps Those Who Can't Help Themselves, Not The Other Way Round by An2elect2(f): 11:47am On Jul 16, 2017
shocked Heaven is a created place. How come it's the one helping not the creator

Abeg everything about that proverb is wrong undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did Jesus Say This : My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me? Mark 15:34 by An2elect2(f): 10:01am On Jul 16, 2017
Great question. Jesus had become sin on the cross (ie our sin was inputted in Christ.)
and because God could not behold sin and always forsakes Sinners, He did to Jesus what He would have done to all those Christ died for : Which is forsake and punish them for their sins.

Jesus' role was vicarious. He was the substitute, (bearing all their sins instead of them) for all those who would be saved by grace.
Christianity EtcRe: Forget About Atheists, Are You Really Saved? by An2elect2(op): 8:43am On Jul 16, 2017
It's so sad that many professing Christians have not this Christ full of power and grace and assurance and peace.

These things that we say are real and we have seen Him and we know Him. The reason we are always hammering on this is because we have seen him for ourselves and our lives have changed. Everyone who encounters Him would change!

This is the God who took on flesh to die for sinners that they may have life. This is that Jesus that was spoken of the prophets. The Father, the everlasting God and prince of Peace. I would only call for a debate if I wasn't sure of this. God lives in us. Brethren if the Holy God is in you how can you not change? And do you know His dwelling in us is our only hope of glory!

Do not be deceived brethren , no self righteous person, fornicator, adulterer, liar, gay/lesbian, thief and all those that practice evil will inherit the kingdom of God.

Be sure of your calling. You know yourself. Can a man deceive God?
Christianity EtcRe: Forget About Atheists, Are You Really Saved? by An2elect2(op): 8:21am On Jul 16, 2017
Dlordsamurai:
hmmm on the judgement throne we shall all know who a real christian is.
Don't worry about others until you are sure of your calling (if you have been called)

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