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Christianity EtcRe: How To Worship The Nigerian God by An2elect2(f): 8:10pm On Jun 05, 2017
HaHa ha ha
Christianity EtcRe: Was Jesus Really Black, New Findings! by An2elect2(f): 11:26am On Jun 04, 2017
2Corinthians 5:16 So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer.

Whether Christ was black, white Or yellow it matters no more to us who are in Christ
Christianity EtcRe: Are Christians The Only People Who Will Go To Heaven? by An2elect2(f): 11:19am On Jun 04, 2017
The day some men realise they don't have the good in them that satisfies God, then they would understand why Christ came to bear what stands on the way
Christianity EtcRe: Are Christians The Only People Who Will Go To Heaven? by An2elect2(f): 11:11am On Jun 04, 2017
frosbel2:
The height of delusion is when you condemn 90% of the world to a future in endless burning torment with only 10% Christians making a mythical heaven.

The sooner you realise that this is a hoax the better.

God is no respecter of persons and could care less about religion. God is for those who do what is good whether black, white or yellow. God is for those who revere him whether black , white or yellow .God is for those who love their neighbours as themselves.

So Christians and Muslims, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELVES with the MYTH of HELL FIRE and start doing good to mankind if you truly love God.
What can be more wrong!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Have More Ladies In Churches Than Men? by An2elect2(f): 9:08am On Jun 04, 2017
Presh555:
Like seriously shocked shocked shocked
Explain please
I'm saying the average church out there isn't about Christ anymore but about its own business. And if it houses much more women that tells us the gender that is less discerning and easily tossed about.

That does not mean men are not deceived it just not as much on their sides when matched with women.
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Start A Church In Response To Unemployment? by An2elect2(f): 8:58am On Jun 04, 2017
Remember whose wrath is coming!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Have More Ladies In Churches Than Men? by An2elect2(f): 8:56am On Jun 04, 2017
If you mean the average apostate church out there then it's bad news about women.

It means women are more gullible being the weaker vessels
Christianity EtcRe: Uk Based Prophet Buys $7M Properties Situated Near Bill Gate And Beckham's hous by An2elect2(f): 8:51am On Jun 04, 2017
When it was said, he was made poor that we may become rich, it is not the riches of this world but to be rich in our Spirits for men are born with poor Spirits, all of them.

The riches that Christ purchased for us was His righteousness. This He did by becoming a sin- poor on the cross. 2Corinthians 5:21

Do not be deceived by the god of this world.
Christianity EtcRe: Going To A Catholic Church For The First Time Tomorrow. by An2elect2(f): 8:40am On Jun 04, 2017
zionmade1:
Not all roman catholics go to pray at d feet of mary, not all roman catholics ask Mary to ask God. My prayer mate in school is a Catholic and he was d one dat entirely changed my take on Catholics. My dear wen we table ur matter dat is d end.
As long as they believe that Jesus is d Lord over their lives, they believe that he died and rose again, and they make dat confession they are Christians. John 3:16
Wat u shud reason is dat wen they knee befor dat sculpture who exactly is in their mind God, in whose name do they pray? Jesus. Who do they expect to answer their prayers? God.
Dat i bow my head to d floor like a Muslim doesnt mean am praying to allah. Wat matters most is where ur heart is
Smh at this overwhelming ignorance and self delusion
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Lady, Oluchi Anne Says ‘abortion’ Is Not A Sin On Facebook by An2elect2(f): 9:21pm On Jun 03, 2017

Why not give birth to the child and take him or her to a "help home" instead of taking life?

Christianity EtcRe: Going To A Catholic Church For The First Time Tomorrow. by An2elect2(f): 9:12pm On Jun 03, 2017
zionmade1:
Sisi let us stop this. There is no idolatory in catholic. The same way other churches use annointing oil and Chosen us aprons, salvation Ministries use hand bands etc is d same way they use d chaplait. It is just something to help their faith and not that it is powerful on its own
I am a full blown CATHOLIC. If u re not a catholic u will go to hell.
Before u mention me to spew Rubbish check d meaning of catholic.







(some people wont see dis one. I am ROMAN CATHOLIC)
I'm not surprised at your comment. Yes making images of one mary and bowing to them isn't idolatry but truth and Spirit worship of God!

Can darkness oppose darkness?
Ecumenism brewing!
Christianity EtcRe: Going To A Catholic Church For The First Time Tomorrow. by An2elect2(f): 8:28pm On Jun 03, 2017
Nice! go see full-blown idolatry yourself!
Christianity EtcRe: Phillips Meyers Hosts Pastor Adeboye & His Wife In Israel (photos) by An2elect2(f): 7:15pm On Jun 01, 2017
KINGROLAND1:
the pastor took only his well fed family in a private jet o isreal.
the local people who helps him to spread RCCG in every street are still here in nigeria.
they say GOD is using him. i am 35yrs old, i have never read or seen proof of him curing malaria, i have never seen the man, his children, and wife trekking from town to town, preaching the Kingdom of GOD and JESUS CHRIST.
The man eats the best food
lives in the best house
surrounded by security
mingle with Politicians.
The only job he does is to climb a pupit that is surrounded by security men standing to protect him, he opens the Bible, read from it and say some special prayer for those who brought tithe in the form of money and pray ordinary prayer for those given offering in the form of money.
Every one wake up. GOD wants a one on one relationship with you and not you going to church to enrich a lazy man who will not work but depends on the money people give to him in the name of tithe and offering.
GOD bless you all.
HaHa ha. So true! The mass blindness is very worrisome.
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by An2elect2(op): 11:17am On Jun 01, 2017
5solas:
Thanks.
As you have observed most Protestants do not know what Luther and the other reformers preached.
How I wish most know for example that Luther took more than 300 pages to show that ''freewill'' does not exist in ''The Bondage of the Will''.
During Luther's time the false doctrine that salvation can be lost (Arminianism) was not in existence.
Most people assume Calvinism (the view that salvation cannot be lost) is more recent, but how wrong they are!
Lol it looks recent because we have been deep in error for a long long time. Now the truth looks like a lie!
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by An2elect2(op): 9:30pm On May 31, 2017
5solas:
It is good for believers to know what they believe. Is it Roman Catholic or Protestant. These are the dominant school of thoughts.Reformed churches are churches which are Protestant and their belief on predestination is here set out. It is disheartening that most Protestant Churches now teach what is at variance with their creeds.The average Protestant does not know about predestination, even argues against it, holding forth ''freewill'' one of the errors of the Roman Catholic Church which the early reformers proved to be a lie.
God ordains all that come to pass (Rom. 13:1,2) evil rulers or good rulers,good or evil.And for all that, he is not responsible for the sin of the wicked. We don't accuse God to be responsible for the sins of those who crucified Christ even though He ordained the crucifixion .

(Acts 2 )



Acts 4






Amen! Nothing happens by chance! God not only has control over man , He has control over animals, plants and non-living things-rains,floods,volcanoes, earthquakes,e.t.c He determined before time what shall be and how far there are to extend.
Amos 3

Job 38



Amen!!!!!!!
Have you been deceived to overlook predestination whenever/wherever you see it in the Bible? Reconsider it. Is predestination unfair?
What about grace?

Any interpretation of the Bible (especially as it pertains to salvation) that does not take into account the fact that there is predestination is totally flawed.

Thanks An2elect2 for energizing me. grin
grin Thank you 5Solas. Glory to our Lord and Sovereign God!!!

Great comment. Well done! smiley

Do protestants ever check history? How can they be happy to associate with reformed men like Martin Luther and not consider what they preached.
Christianity EtcRe: An Example Of Being Spirit - Filled. by An2elect2(f): 9:04pm On May 31, 2017
sonofthunder:
same apostle said ...follow me as I follow Christ...
Please follow Paul as he magnified Christ and not Paul or Paul's name. Take care
Christianity EtcRe: An Example Of Being Spirit - Filled. by An2elect2(f): 9:02pm On May 31, 2017
sonofthunder:
and who was giving glory to anyone else... you were the one magnifying events to what no one said them to be...
Look up and see how "powerful" the said woman's name is
Christianity EtcRe: An Example Of Being Spirit - Filled. by An2elect2(f): 2:08pm On May 31, 2017
sonofthunder:
even a demon/demons professed... "Paul I know"... (with respect to your earlier post)
Did you say a demon?

When there was division in the Corinthian church about whom to follow what was Paul's reply? If you don't know please be diligent enough to search it out yourself
Christianity EtcRe: An Example Of Being Spirit - Filled. by An2elect2(f): 2:06pm On May 31, 2017
sonofthunder:
God Almighty professed himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... do you know the implication of that as it relates to the said characters? pls drop all bigotry, no one is trying to belittle Christ here except maybe you @my quote above...
God of Abraham or God of anybody still gives God all the glory. The God of Abraham should cause us to repent not the name of Abraham.
Christianity EtcRe: An Example Of Being Spirit - Filled. by An2elect2(f): 2:04pm On May 31, 2017
Scholar8200:
Why didnt you quote Christ directly?
The truth is the truth. Don't go beyond what is written for your own good. Asking me why I didn't quote Christ is a subtle way of dodging the truth. I have told you try all spirits before you start recommending them for others.
Christianity EtcRe: 11 Verses That Turns Christians To Atheism. by An2elect2(f): 1:09pm On May 30, 2017
malvisguy212:
alright, how was your day going ?
It's fine. Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: 11 Verses That Turns Christians To Atheism. by An2elect2(f): 11:31am On May 30, 2017
malvisguy212:
who told you atheists read and understand context ? they pick one verse from every book and mix it together, then, they give their Interpretation .
Exactly. Just saying they are old and fulfilled might be giving more weight to their argument.
Christianity EtcRe: 11 Verses That Turns Christians To Atheism. by An2elect2(f): 11:24am On May 30, 2017
AccidentalGenius:
with this logic of yours, you wouldnt have any problems if you were raped right? or say sold for slavery which by the way i think is long overdue for you.
grin tongue
Christianity EtcRe: 11 Verses That Turns Christians To Atheism. by An2elect2(f): 11:16am On May 30, 2017
malvisguy212:
old testament law which Christ has supersed and fulfilled for us.
Yes they are old but there isn't anything wrong with them when looked at in context. Don't let mongers deceive you into thinking they are bad ie making God look like an ancient monster. Lol!!
Christianity EtcRe: 11 Verses That Turns Christians To Atheism. by An2elect2(f): 11:12am On May 30, 2017
If these verses turn Christians to atheists why am I still a Christian after reading them. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by An2elect2(op): 11:07am On May 30, 2017
Will come back to comment grin
Christianity EtcRe: Historical Facts! Freewillism Existed For Centuries As A Heresy. by An2elect2(op): 11:00am On May 30, 2017
Chapter 2

Statement of the Doctrine

In the Westminster Confession, which sets forth the beliefs of the Presbyterian and Reformed Churches and which is the most perfect expression of the Reformed Faith, we read: "God from all eternity did by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established." And further, "Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed conditions; yet hath He not decreed any thing because He foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions." This doctrine of Predestination represents the purpose of God as absolute and unconditional, independent of the whole finite creation, and as originating solely in the eternal counsel of His will. God is seen as the great and mighty King who has appointed the course of nature and who directs the course of history even down to its minutest details. His decree is eternal, unchangeable, holy, wise, and sovereign. It extends not merely to the course of the physical world but to every event in human history from the creation to the judgment, and includes all the activities of saints and angels in heaven and of reprobates and demons in hell. It embraces the whole scope of creaturely existence, through time and eternity, comprehending at once all things that ever were or will be in their causes, conditions, successions, and relations. Everything outside of God Himself is included in this all-embracing decree, and that very naturally since all other beings owe their existence and continuance in existence to His creative and sustaining power. It provides a providential control under which all things are hastening to the end of God's determining; and the goal is, "One far-off divine event Toward which the whole creation moves. Since the finite creation through its whole range exists as a medium through which God manifests His glory, and since it is absolutely dependent on Him, it of itself could originate no conditions which would limit or defeat the manifestation of that glory.

From all eternity God has purposed to do just exactly what He is doing. He is the sovereign Ruler of the universe and "does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35. Since the universe had its origin in God and depends on Him for its continued existence it must be, in all its parts and at all times, subject to His control so that nothing can come to pass contrary to what He expressly decrees or permits. Thus the eternal purpose is represented as an act of sovereign predestination or foreordination, and unconditioned by any subsequent fact or change in time. Hence it is represented as being the basis of the divine foreknowledge of all future events, and not conditioned by that foreknowledge or by anything originated by the events themselves.
The Reformed theologians logically and consistently applied to the spheres of creation and providence those great principles which were later set forth in the Westminster Standards. They saw the hand of God in every event in all the history of mankind and in all the workings of physical nature so that the world was the complete realization in time of the eternal ideal. The world as a whole and in all its parts and movements and changes was brought into a unity by the governing, all-pervading, all-harmonizing activity of the divine will, and its purpose was to manifest the divine glory. While their conception was that of a divine ordering of the whole course of history to the veriest detail, they were especially concerned with its relation to man's salvation. Calvin, the brilliant and systematic theologian of the Reformation, put the matter thus: "Predestination we call the eternal decree of God, by which He has determined in Himself, what He would have to become of every individual of mankind. For they are not all created with a similar destiny; but eternal life is foreordained for some and eternal death for others. Every man, therefore, being created for one or the other of these ends, we say he is predestinated either to life or to death." [ Institutes, Book III, Ch. XXI, sec. 5.] That Luther was as zealous for absolute predestination as was Calvin is shown in his commentary on Romans, where he wrote: "All things whatever arise from, and depend on, the divine appointment; whereby it was foreordained who should receive the word of life, and who should disbelieve it; who should be delivered from their sins, and who should be hardened in them; and who should be justified and who should be condemned." And Melanchthon, his close friend and fellow-laborer, says: "All things turn out according to divine predestination; not only the works we do outwardly, but even the thoughts we think inwardly"; and again, "There is no such thing as chance, or fortune; nor is there a readier way to gain the fear of God, and to put our whole trust in Him, than to be thoroughly versed in the doctrine of Predestination." "Order is heaven's first law." From the divine viewpoint there is unbroken order and progress from the first beginnings of the creation to the end of the world and the ushering in of the kingdom of heaven in all its glory. The divine purpose and plan is nowhere defeated nor interrupted; that which in many cases appears to us to be defeat is not really such but only appears to be, because our finite and imperfect nature does not permit us to see all the parts in the whole nor the whole in all its parts. If at one glance we could take in "the mighty spectacle of the natural world and the complex drama of human history," we should see the world as one harmonious unit manifesting the glorious perfections of God. "Though the world seems to run at random," says Bishop, "and affairs to be huddled together in blind confusion and rude disorder, yet, God sees and knows the concatenation of all causes and effects, and so governs them that He makes a perfect harmony out of all those seeming jarrings and discords. It is most necessary that we should have our hearts well established in the firm and unwavering belief of this truth, that whatever comes to pass, be it good or evil, we may look up to the hand and disposal of all, to God. In respect of God, there is nothing casual nor contingent in the world. If a master should send a servant to a certain place and command him to stay there till such a time, and, presently after, should send another servant to the same place, the meeting of these two is wholly casual in respect to themselves, but ordained and foreseen by the master who sent them. They fall out unexpectedly as to us, but not so as to God. He foresees and He appoints all the vicissitudes of things." [Quoted by Toplady in Preface to Zanchius' Predestination.] The psalmist exclaimed, "O Jehovah our Lord, How excellent is thy name in all the earth!" And the writer of Ecclesiastes says, "He hath made everything beautiful in its time." In the vision which the prophet Isaiah saw, the seraphim sang, "Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of hosts: The whole earth is full of His glory." When seen from this divine view-point every event in the course of human affairs in all ages and in all nations has, no matter how insignificant it may appear to us, its exact place in the development of the eternal plan. It has relations with preceding causes and exerts an ever widening influence through its effects so that it is related to the whole system of things and has its individual part in maintaining the perfect equilibrium of this world-order. Many instances might be given to show that events of the greatest importance have often depended upon what at the time appeared to be the most fortuitious and trivial events. The inter-relation and connection of events is such that if one of these were to be omitted or modified, all that follows soon would be modified or prevented. Hence the certainty that the divine administration rests on the foreordination of God extending to all events both great and small. And, strictly speaking, no event is really small; each one has its exact place in the divine plan, and some are only relatively greater than others. The course of history, then, is infinitely complex, yet a unit in the sight of God. This truth, together with the reason for it, is very beautifully summed up in the Shorter Catechism which states that, "The decrees of God are, His eternal purpose, according to the counsel of His will, whereby for His own glory, He hath foreordained whatsoever comes to pass." Dr. Abraham Kuyper, of Holland, who is recognized as one of the outstanding Calvinistic theologians in recent years, has given us some valuable thought in the following paragraph: "The determination of the existence of all things to be created, or what is to be camellia or buttercup, nightingale or crow, hart or swine, and equally among men, the determination of our own persons, whether one is to be born as boy or girl, rich or poor, dull or clever, white or colored or even as Abel and Cain, is the most tremendous predestination conceivable in heaven or on earth; and still we see it taking place before our eyes every day, and we ourselves are subject to it in our entire personality; our entire existence, our very nature, our position in life being entirely dependent on it. This allembracing predestination, the Calvinist places, not in the hands of man, and still less in the hand of blind natural force, but in the hand of Almighty God, sovereign Creator and Possessor of heaven and earth; and it is in the figure of the potter and the clay that Scripture has from the time of the prophets expounded to us this all-dominating election. Election in creation, election in providence, and so election also to eternal life; election in the realm of grace as well as in the realm of nature." [Lectures on Calvinism, p. 272.] We can have no adequate appreciation of this world-order until we see it as one mighty system through which God is working out His plans. Calvin's clear and consistent theism gave him a keen sense of the infinite majesty of the Almighty Person in whose hands all things lay, and made him a very pronounced predestinarian. In this doctrine of the unconditional and eternal purpose of the omniscient and omnipotent God, he found the program of the history of the fall and redemption of the human race. He ventured boldly but reverently upon the brink of that abyss of speculation where all human knowledge is lost in mystery and adoration. The Reformed Faith, then, offers us a great God who is really the sovereign Ruler of the Universe. "Its grand principle," says Bayne, "is the contemplation of the universe of God revealed in Christ. In all places, in all times, from eternity to eternity, Calvinism sees God." Our age, with its emphasis on democracy, doesn't like this view, and perhaps no other age liked it less. The tendency today is to exalt man and to give God only a very limited part in the affairs of the world. As Dr. A. A. Hodge has said, "The new theology, asserting the narrowness of the old, is discarding the foreordination of Jehovah as a worn-out figment of the schools, discredited by the advanced culture of today. This is not the first time that the owls, mistaking the shadow of a passing eclipse for their native night, have prematurely hooted at the eagles, convinced that what is invisible to them cannot possibly exist." [Popular Lectures on Theological Themes, p. 158.] This, in general, is the broad conception of predestination as it has been held by the great theologians of the Presbyterian and Reformed Churches. Foreordination is explicitly stated in Scripture. Acts 4:27, 28: For of a truth in this city against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou didst anoint, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, were gathered together, to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel foreordained to come to pass. Ephesians 1:5: Having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will. Ephesians 1:11: In whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His will. Romans 8:29, 30: For whom He foreknew, He also foreordained to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren: and whom He foreordained, them He also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified. 1 Corinthians 2:7: But we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, even the wisdom that hath been hidden, which God foreordained before the worlds unto our glory. Acts 2:23: Him (Jesus) being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye by the hands of lawless men did crucify and slay. Acts 13:48: And as the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God; and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Ephesians 2:10: For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them. Romans 9:23: That He might make known the riches of His glory upon the vessels of mercy, which He afore prepared unto glory. Psalm 139:16: Thine eyes did see mine unformed substance; And in thy book they were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was none of them.


Cc 5Solas
Christianity EtcRe: Name One Tithe Benefit You Gained In 2017 by An2elect2(f): 10:46pm On May 28, 2017
Goshen360:
At the bold, .....more like saying a babalawo cooked something together and gave to someone, he or she said it worked. Does that make it truth? Or Cele people going to the river to bath and walk around bare footed, someone can claim it's a revelation from about....lol, does that make it truth!
So on point. And this one has a Christian package, the lie is just too "charming" to resist
Christianity EtcRe: What Does Grace Mean To You? by An2elect2(f): 6:39pm On May 28, 2017
Omooba77:
You are right sir, but honour must be given to whom honour is due.
I am no sir.
Yes honour must be given to whom it is due and the poor Christian should be given greater honour in the church.

We should honour our leaders as leaders that have been appointed by God over us.

I wonder why that thread was locked.
Christianity EtcRe: Name One Tithe Benefit You Gained In 2017 by An2elect2(f):
The tithers I pity most are those who "it's working for". These ones are the ones God has blinded Himself. They can never get out because they mistake "what works" for the truth.

At least those who do not get returns for their tithes and seed sowing may reconsider. And come to accept the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: British Prime Minister Theresa May Worshipped In RCCG UK Today by An2elect2(f): 6:24pm On May 28, 2017
frosbel2:
Very well said !
I just can't hold back.
Christianity EtcRe: British Prime Minister Theresa May Worshipped In RCCG UK Today by An2elect2(f): 6:20pm On May 28, 2017
hmmmm. And they looked so excited. If a poor Christian should walk into this same organisation I can bet they would not regard him much.

Someone would soon "accuse" me of judging as if we were not asked to judge righteously.

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