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Speechless3:
I remember you said you were tending towards atheism before God grabbed you. I know you know what you are saying! You are indeed one of the reasons i believe christianity is right.

Thank you too!!!!!

.LOL
To God be the glory!

Rayhut:
Is it not what the Catholic Church want you to know that is in the Bible, believe in TRINITY where did it came from,non inclusion of gospel of Banabas in the Bible who excluded it from not been part of the Bible and other canonical books that the council of Nicaea decided that they not worthy enough to be part of Bible,did you know whether those books that was excluded is the correct one, my friend the Bible you are holding is what Catholic church dominated council of Nacea of 7 ecumenical churches overseen by emperor Constantine want you to know, had it been that they included the gospel of Banabas and told you in the Bible that Jesus is not the son of God you will still believe it, so stop arguing what pass you or above your human intelligent and intellectuals. There is God that Created heaven and Earth,do good things, Religion be it Christianity or Islam is dominated by human addition or subtraction.

Rayhut:
An2elect2 read the history of Christian faith, stop believing in whatever your pastor is telling you,read,that is why you went to school,google is your friend

italo:
Find answers within.

Mr Italo are you not afraid to believe that a common human being like you holds the key to the kingdom of God, is the prime minister and vicar. buhahahahahaha. Here is some good bible exegesis of this. Not necessarily for you but for those who are seeking truth.

Your Church sees Peter as
the first pope upon whom God had chosen to build His church LOL (Matthew 16:18 ). It holds that he had authority (primacy) over the other apostles. The Roman Catholic Church maintains that sometime after the recorded events of the book of Acts, the
Apostle Peter became the first bishop of Rome, and that the Roman bishop was accepted by the early church as the central authority among all of the churches. It teaches that God passed Peter’s
apostolic authority to those who later filled his seat as bishop of Rome. This teaching that God passed on Peter’s apostolic authority to the subsequent
bishops is referred to as “apostolic succession.”Right?

The Roman Catholic Church also holds that Peter
and the subsequent popes were and are infallible
when addressing issues “ex cathedra,” from their
position and authority as pope. It teaches that this infallibility gives the pope the ability to guide the church without error. The Roman Catholic Church claims that it can trace an unbroken line of popes back to St. Peter, citing this as evidence that it is the true church, since, according to their interpretation of Matthew 16:18 , Christ built His church upon Peter.Lolzzzz

But while Peter was central in the early spread of
the gospel (part of the meaning behind Matthew
16:18-19 ), the teaching of Scripture, taken in
context, nowhere declares that he was in authority
over the other apostles, or over the church (having primacy). See Acts 15:1-23 ; Galatians 2:1-14 ; and 1 Peter 5:1-5 . Nor is it ever taught in Scripture that
the bishop of Rome, or any other bishop, was to have primacy over the church. Scripture does not even explicitly record Peter even being in Rome. Rather there is only one reference in Scripture of Peter
writing from “Babylon,” a name sometimes applied to Rome ( 1 Peter 5:13 ). Primarily upon this and the historical rise of the influence of the Bishop of Rome
come the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching of the
primacy of the bishop of Rome. However, Scripture
shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the
other apostles ( Ephesians 2:19-20 ), and the “loosing
and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise
shared by the local churches, not just their church
leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19 ; 1 Corinthians
5:1-13 ; 2 Corinthians 13:10 ; Titus 2:15 ; 3:10-11 ).
Also, nowhere does Scripture state that, in order to
keep the church from error, the authority of the
apostles was passed on to those they ordained (the
idea behind apostolic succession). Apostolic
succession is “read into” those verses that the
Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine
(2 Timothy 2:2 ; 4:2-5 ; Titus 1:5 ; 2:1 ; 2:15 ; 1 Timothy
5:19-22 ). Paul does NOT call on believers in various
churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other
church leaders based on their authority as bishops
or their having apostolic authority, but rather based
upon their being fellow laborers with him ( 1
Corinthians 16:10 ; 16:16 ; 2 Corinthians 8:23 ).
What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings
would arise even from among church leaders, and
that Christians were to compare the teachings of
these later church leaders with Scripture, which
alone is infallible (Matthew 5:18 ; Psalm 19:7-8 ;
119:160 ; Proverbs 30:5 ; John 17:17 ; 2 Peter
1:19-21 ). The Bible does not teach that the apostles
were infallible, apart from what was written by them
and incorporated into Scripture. Paul, in talking to
the church leaders in the large city of Ephesus,
makes note of coming false teachers. To fight
against their error does NOT commend them to “the
apostles and those who would carry on their
authority”; rather, Paul commends them to “God and
to the word of His grace” (Acts 20:28-32 ). It is
Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick
for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17 ), not
apostolic successors. It is by examining the
Scriptures that teachings are shown to be true or
false ( Acts 17:10-12 ).
Was Peter the first pope? The answer, according to
Scripture, is a clear and emphatic “no.” Peter
nowhere claims supremacy over the other apostles.
Nowhere in his writings (1 and 2 Peter) did the
Apostle Peter claim any special role, authority, or
power over the church. Nowhere in Scripture does
Peter, or any other apostle, state that their apostolic
authority would be passed on to successors. Yes,
the Apostle Peter had a leadership role among the
disciples. Yes, Peter played a crucial role in the
early spread of the gospel (Acts chapters 1-10).
Yes, Peter was the “rock” that Christ predicted he
would be (Matthew 16:18 ). However, these truths
about Peter in no way give support to the concept
that Peter was the first pope, or that he was the
“supreme leader” over the apostles, or that his
authority would be passed on to the bishops of
Rome. Peter himself points us all to the true
Shepherd and Overseer of the church, the Lord
Jesus Christ ( 1 Peter 2:25 ).

italo:
Find answers within.

Rayhut:
You are using Bible put together by Catholic Church and calling them names,your case is like somebody that own and driving a mercedes benz car and calling mercedes company fake

jiggaz:
Excellent post dear..... Christ's Perfect Sacrifice on the Cross have perfected us forever!!!

johnw74:
When we seek Christ, God gives us salvation through that faith,
He then does good works in us, leading us to grow in faith and character.
God does it all. We seek to begin with, perhaps He even leads us to that.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Speechless3:
BB i see truth in what you are saying but's it not rosy on the other side too. Everything is messed up.

Speechless3:
Whats this one saying. Is there anything more beautiful than serving God right? mcheeww some people just like talking anyhow. An2elect2 you have time o.

osesology:
Does it really matter which one came first? Your Bible is there, use it and stop trying to stir up directionless and senseless debate online.

joefredd006:
Jeez! have you ever heard of the book of the Acts of the Apostles, the early church in Antioch, a communion of believers in Christ, baptised by the spirit, presided over by Apostle Peter. Have you heard of the various epistles to the various churches in Samaria, Ephesus, Thessalonia, and others presided over by the Apostles. This led to the coinage of the name 'catholic' (universal) as it was fast spreading. Still presided over by Apostle Peter and he went on missionary journeys to admonish the people of the 'new faith'

What about a statement like:
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on
this rock I will build my church, and the
gates of Hades will not overcome it" (Matt 16:18)

Now have you asked yourself which church Christ was talking about. Coza, Redeem, Or Rhema. I guess not.

'...and the gates of Hades will not overcome it'' don't turn yourself into a gate of hell that questions a direct order.

Drop your phone once in a while, and pick up the bible. it surely has all the answers, even more than google

joefredd006:
Don't worry your head my sister. Religious historians, archaeologist, ethnographers, Atheists, and more have tried to disprove that too. But the material evidence of presence is overwhelming. Luckily for them, they also have a writing culture of dating their history.

So just let it slide, for the fact that you senior your own church doesn't mean you now know where the stream of christian faith flows from.

Let it go dear, let it go

Moreover, i doubt if these are the questions you'll be asked at the gate of heaven (if you believe in that)

Let it slide !

Last2comment:
So which is the first church?

Speechless3:
Yes i saw the msg u er. True ive been waiting for you to say that!!

Speechless3:
Am fine dear. How is service?

Stressful Lol but we are coping. Did you get my msg

Was so impressed when i saw your topics on the religion sec. We have to see!!!!

Speechless3:
So what happened to animal right

Speechless3:
You were born the first time by your earthly parents. That was a natural occurence you didnt have control over. It simply happened.

Now you are grown and you need a second birth. There is something about the second that makes it distinct though similar in principle to the first.

The second birth requires a spiritual parent. Just one. The second must happen before you can claim to be saved. Every one experienced the first but only few (would) know the second before death. In addition, the second birth is not seen or witnessed by men but the evidence is clear to all.

Now here is the problem. The principle. Both the natural and spiritual follow this. YOU DONT KNOW WHEN, AND YOU HAVE NO CHOICE IN BOTH.

Reference: John 3.

In my personal and objective study of John 3, this is my understanding.

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Jadonjack:
Okay, faith is being in accordance with the holy spirit. Now, pls tell me, what do you mean when you say "accordance with holy spirit"?

chernest2002:
It will soon clear some people eyes when the dollar comes to 500 to 1 dollar, Buhari means failure in all dictionary.