₦airaland Forum

@Sapeleguy: The Ohanaeze faction that supported third term bid was existing in a vacuum. Achuzia held unto power when his boss Irukwu resigned. Their tenure expired but he held on and was supported by few rich politicians. The case went to court and Ikedife's faction won. The Ikedife faction never supported Obasanjo's third term bid, in fact they buried that bid.
I think, it is better for Ndigbo to tell their own stories than others telling it.

Arewa will be making a grave mistake by including non Hausa groups in their classification.
Jukun, Tiv, Idoma, Igala, Egbira, Nupe, Okun, Birom, Angas, Gwari etc are not Hausas and will never be.

omonuan:
I can't speak on Agbontaen's motivations.  However, I have seen his positions on not being Igbo. I chose not to participate on that thread because another Ika man from Igbodo has given him history lessons on the issue. Moreover, I don't participate on threads where insults are bandied around.  

Furthermore, I know that those Igbo that deny being Igbo like some Ikwerre, Agbontaen and his cohorts are strident in their beliefs. So even if their father tells them they are Igbo they'll still insist they are not.  Afterall, the Obi of Owa participates in Igbo activities and has stated that Owa came from Nri yet Agbontaen who claims to be from Owa has not taken heed.

For those Anioma people that say they are Bini, they do so out of nothing but nostalgia.  I have given a cornucopia of common words used by Bini and Anioma. However, 98-99% of Anioma words are Igbo.  I was once at a gathering in Asaba where Anioma politicians gathered and where lamenting the demise of the famous Igbo Union of the 50s and 60s. They were saying that If Igbo Union was still in existence, the plight of Igbo in Nigerian would have been better.  I interjected by reminding them that some Anioma people say we are not Igbo to which they all responded in unison by saying "then what are we?" One of them coincidentally from Ika said anybody that says that publicly is "ignorant."  I agree with him on this into-to.

You guys should let Agbontaen be because another common trait of those people that loath being Igbo is they crave attention.  Do not give it to them. I always remind those Anioma Igbo that loath being Igbo that the modern day Bini massacre occurred in 1967 with the blood of Anioma people flowing like river on the streets of Benin City. The only Anioma crime then was that they were Igbo and it was open season on Igbo people -the pogrom against Igbo was every where in Nigeria. I wonder how Agbontean would convince the Bini that he is one of them and not Igbo were he to face the vicious Bini guillotine.

Going back to our Igbo tent of brotherhood would ensure that  we will all hold hands with our brothers accross the Niger and say never again! Like the jews did after the holocaust, never again shall the Igbo be massacred on a large scale without retribution. Ise!

Thanks a lot and keep it coming. But believe me, be prepared for Agbontaen when he comes in. He is also insultive.

As an Igbo, Biafra is just of the MIND and not of TERRITORY.

EzeUche0:
Like I said, I do not know who to support. If I had my way, I would only support Pat Utomi, but since he has no chance in this country, I want my vote to count.

Utomi for 2015.

Onlytruth:
I never said there is anything wrong with individual choice. By all means, please vote for whoever pleases you.
I never ever said that you MUST VOTE according to Ohanaeze dictates.

All I have always said here is that in the Nigerian political reality, and being an Igbo man who has witnessed the product of that Nigerian politics and its evil impacts on my part of Nigeria, it will be foolhardy for me not to play the same game others have been playing for years, and with which they have short-changed me and my people in Nigeria.

As we are talking, the north is working VERY HARD to pick a CONSENSUS CANDIDATE for next year's election.
And they have played the same game for 50 years, and have used it to cheat me.

Igboland is the most marginalized in terms of federal presence and revenue allocation. It did not happen because we played the game others played, rather it happened because we played it your way.

But when you support an animal character attacking me for holding my views, you cross a line.

@IKENGA DIKE 1 NA NNEWI: Thanks a lot for this nice thread of yours. Thanks to Ohanaeze for this timely intervention. There is no point in Ohanaeze waiting till the last second to support any candidate. Ohanaeze coming up at this time to endorse G.Ebele.J has done a lot of favour to his camp and his chances are even brighter.
Since Uwaechue's endorsement, a lot of Ndigbo whom were hitherto undecided have now joined GEJ's camp. If you speak to five Ndigbo today, atleast four will tell you they are for GEJ, thanks to Ohanaeze for this extraodinary feat.
Since the new Ohanaeze, Ndigbo have never had any one better than Uwaechue occupying the number one seat in Igboland today.
@Uwaechue, may your days be long.

ifyalways:
I had this notion that diviners ie ndi afa is different from herbalists ie dibia mkporogwu
I also heard some diviners(its safe to call them seers) can only forsee then direct u to a dibia for a cure/solution.Dr Ihesie(Umuaka) is a diviner while Nwanyo-bu-ije(Umu ndugba ) is a herbalist.IMO
My relgious belifs aside,i still have lots faith in herbalists and very little for diviners who in my opinion are all but almost corrupt.Herbalits use herbs(natural God-given),they study their enviroment to find cures,same cant be said of diviners.IMO
Andrew,sometimes though,some of their pratices do look funny and does not add up eg,whats with traditional bone setters getting a fowl,breaking one of its legs and claming that the speed at which it heals wud determine the patients recovery ? It looks funny,weird and suspicious

Most of the diviners carry out healing exercises as well. Some may refer you to a more equipped Dibia just as medical consultants make referals for patients/clients.
Most of the bone setters do not use fouls or any ritual similar. They use mostly very hot water cooked with pepper and a leaf. The exercise is mostly massaging and rotation of joints. If it is a fracture to the tibia, they use bark of trees to make frames and rings round the external tissue of the fractured tibia.
After that, some oral concontions prepared with Manya elu or kai kai is given the client to take home. They will inform you to drink it once, twice or thrice daily.
Igbo healing method is very unique.

@Know All: Saying Ikwerres are not Igbos is an insult to my wife who is Ikwerre and a proud Igbo.
Please quit the crap.

debosky:
^^

This has been a great chance for Chelski to get a glimpse into life after Fat Frank. . . .from early indications, it won't have much of an impact on the team as a whole.

He is injured and will be out for 3 weeks.

waledoy:
Lampard Injured again out for 2 weeks more

He is out for atleast 3 weeks.

ezeagu:
Ndi ma ali a bia! Ezioku ki ku ro! Osolobue dozima i o!

Omonuan is heaven sent. Godbless him. Am sure, he will finally bury the spirit of Agbontaen.

vicenzo:
Umunne biko let us for once agree on something after the biafra war,ohaneze knows what is best for ndi igbo,Goodluck is an ijaw and like someone here rightly pointed out, ndi igbo owns nothing to ijaw,not with what they did during and after the war,not after what clark did to odili. But who should we vote for? is it the northerners? what made u think they wil return power come 2015? I didnt initially support Goodluck,but in as much as we hate to admit it,the truth is that at this point in time our best shot is Goodluck,we must start believing in ohaneze, this idea of speaking in different voices is what brought us to this situation today, nobody can claim to know what is best for ndi igbo than ohaneze,Ralph uwechue is our leader,it is bad when people say he is running a south south agenda,when we know his loyalty lies with ndigbo,unless we are saying we dont have ndi igbo in south south, remember that our people say that what an elder see while sitting down,a child cant see it even when he is standing. Udo di.

Well captured: There might be a few that do not agree but almost every Igbo stands on Ohanaeze's endorsement of G.Ebere.Jonathan.

In Achebe's TFA (1958), the elders of Umuofia asked the white missionaries what will happen to them when Umuofia ancestors get angry at them for abandoning their religion. The missionaries could not sell the idea of abandoning Igbo religion to Umuofians. Their explanation that the religion of Umuofia is made up of dead woods and has no powers was not bought by Umuofia people. As a consequence, Igbo religion is still practised side by side with Christianity in Igboland till date.

Abagworo:
If you include those in diaspora Ngwa might be more populous but as it is presently there are more Ikwerres.Apart from PH and Obio/Akpor which houses a lot of strangers Ikwerre and Emohua LG are very populated.The most populous Lgas in Ngwa are Aba and Osisioma which has over 80 percent non-indigenes.

The only places Ikwerres outnumber non natives is in Emohua and Ikwerre. Visit Rumuokoro and other towns in Obio.Akpor, it is full of mostly Ndigbo from the hinterland.
Believe me, Ikwerre is just half of the size of Ngwa.

omonuan:
Andre Uweh: I can tell you that no responsible Ika man that is worth his salt would say that he is not Igbo. Currently, the acting governor of Delta state Sam Obi an Ika man would not come out and say he is not Igbo. Ifeanyi Okowa, Nduka Ogbaigbena, Cairo Ojugbo, Jim Ovia of Zenith Bank fame would not deny Igbo.

I can tell you though that Anioma people for centuries considered the term "Igbo" derogatory because it was used to refer to slaves by them . From this perspective, Anioma people do sometimes say that they are not "Igbo." It is pertinent to say that prior to contact with Europeans, the modern Igbo people did not see themselves as one. I doubt that they collectively called themselves "Igbo." However, ethnically Anioma is as Igbo as Owerri, Ngwa, Ikwerre and Etche, Ohafia, Abiriba although our origins may be diverse.

OMONUAN: Onye nwe anyi nonyere gi.

Perhaps N20.00 IS THE CAUSE OF THIS FIGHT.

Street fight

@Abagworo: Ikwerres are far less than I million. Ngwa is by far bigger than Ikwerres.

@the poster: You are not a tribalist. Any one who regards you as a tribalist is a bloddy liar. You are one of nairaland's finest. Only you have created a thread that ran into nearly sixty pages since two years now.
Most times, you have been on the defensive for what is just. It is no crime to labour in what is just.

I go si mmadu eluigwe (agam ezi gi eluigwe)--nkea putara na agam emesi gi ike.

I feel Igbo traditional religion should be reconciled with christianity. In any of our Igbo cultural events in London, that starts with the blessing of Kola nut. A priest in our midst does the prayers and after that, we have an Igbo elder bless it Igbo tradition.

Omenani:
There is so much diversity in Alaigbo. I am just filled with pride when I hear about the different Igbo dialects.

You have spoken well Omenani. But some efulefus have been making fruitless efforts to convert one of the numerous Igbo dialects to languages and at the same time claim non Igbo. One miscreant from Ika has been doing that continuosly with his copy and paste all the time in every Igbo forum.

Promoting Igbo culture in the U.K. Enjoy photographs.

Ndigbo in America has concluded an arrangement for a dept of Igbo language in Havard by 2012. Also, Yale University runs an Igbo course online.

In addition, The Igbo Youths U.K (icsn) has established an Igbo class which runs every monday evening. The attendance is very large and awesome. The teachers are qualified Igbo language graduates and we pay for their services.

Though there has been an on going alarm for the preservation of Igbo culture. But the efforts made by Ndigbo in Nigeria and diaspora in promoting Igbo culture must be appreciated.
I have a copy of Amb Uwaechue's inaugural speech which was rendered in Igbo language. Ndigbo in America have built Igbo village in America.
Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo in South Africa is building an Igbo cultural centre in Durban. Ndigbo in Ireland are about to do the same.
In the U.K, Igbo language is now considered as one of the languages spoken in the U.K. Thanks to Igbo Youths U.K (ICSN) and Ndigbo katolic U.K.

@Jason: no link or reference from your post. The chap who wrote that article must be a rumour monger as well as a war monger.
The chap fails to note that Azikiwe was not the first Igbo graduate. The first Igbo graduate emerged in 1927.
Bishp Ajayi Crowder etc the author mentioned were re-captives from Sierra Leone. There were Igbo re-captives such as Taylor who was also a graduate.
I still maintain that it is not proper for non Yorubas to be organising a fight between Ndigbo and Yorubas.
Concentrate on issues going on in Delta state right now than this Igbo vs Yoruba thing. The other day there was an explosion in your Delta state capital. Also only yesterday, Uduaghan was sacked as the gov of your state, yet you do not feel concerned.
My brother, what is the point crying more than the bereaved.

ifyalways:
where is ala-ogbaku?do u think modern day diviners are still to be trusted?has the pratice not become corrupted?

Ala Ogbaga is a very powerful shrine around Mbaise. There are some other ones in Oguta, Awka, Arochukwu, Ikwerre, Okija etc.
Lots are still trustworthy. During the Easter period that I was in my home town, a busness man reported to a Dibia about his missing 3 bags of palm kernel. The Dibia then consulted all the men who offloaded the bags of the kernel from a truck that fateful day. All the men denied the accusation and the Dibia had no choice than to devine and find out the culprit. Though red-handed, the guy denied it and took an oath. Within two weeks, his stomach got swollen up and he died as a result.
So lots of them are real.

It seems Paolo Maldini is coming.

Chelsea youths 4:0 B.Munich youths.