₦airaland Forum

excanny:
In politics there are no permanent friends and permanent enemies. What you need to have are permanent interests.

It seems you've been on vacation on some isolated island. The events of the recent times have shown that GJ is the man to beat. Like most posters have said here, he's a one-eyed man in the land of the blind. Not really the best, just better than the rest masquerading themselves as candidates.

Spot on.
I envy your wisdom. Are you related to King Solomon?.

Chelsea have done well. Ivanovic has been blessed today for his header last week at Villa which hit the bar and bounced off.
Chelsea have earned 3pts where we had only one last season. Good also to note that we earned a point at Villa where we lost all three.
Well done the Blues.

OMO IBO:
Honestly, i'm getting fed up of people who speak from all sides of the mouth.

I'm sure i've heard and read a billion times (even on the forum) thats Igbo's are about the only group/tribe who are (somewhat) democratic in tradition/culture. This is even further stressed by the fact that Igbo's do not have a singular ruler.

Why do we now have the leader of a socio-cultual organisation speaking on behalf of a whole a tribe??
A bloody socio-cultural organisation littered with rapscallions who are up for their own personal gains??

If these guys are so interested in politcs then they should show their hands. If not, Ralph Uwechue  and his buds  should continue promoting the Igbo language and culture.

The society for Promotion of Igbo language and Culture (SPILAC) is already doing that and that falls under Ohanaeze.

mikeansy:
After consulting, did they take the final decision using one of the mechanisms provided in the laws of Ohaneze constitution?
The essence of consultation is not so that you select those who agree with you and reach a decision behind the scene.

The Ohaneze constitution has mechanisms on which critical decisions must be taken, was any of those followed? That is the question.

And mark my word No zoning arrangement in Nigeria will see power move from South-South to South East. It is only those who do not understand the spirit under which they attempted to form the zoning policy that will engage in such wild dreams.

Ralph Uwechue can not claim Jonathan who has said zoning does not exist when it comes to choosing the President will now turn around to zone power to the South East.

Most importantly, Jonathan as President will be too weak to deliver on anything and this is what nobody is talking about.
I will rather Ohaneze does not endorse anybody than invest our political future on a very dumb President who will not deliver on anything, and yet not a member of Ohaneze.

This is simply political sucide if this madness is allowed to stand.

Ralph Uwechue should get ready to step down next month.

Mike, biko, for the sake of Christ, leave Uwaechue alone for once. At first, you said there were no consultations, we told you there were. From Newspaper reports, you should have seen series of meetings that took place. The bottom line is: You have a right to vote for any candidate of your choice. Ohanaeze is only acting in an advisory capacity. Thank you.

@ S.bobo: May God be praised that you are still alive. Tne politcs sectionm has not been really interesting without you.
Welcome back brother.

Onwere ego kwaa nna na obughi di okparagburu--let any wealthy son do the burial of his father because it is not the first son that killed him.
This can mean that family responsibilities can fall on anyone that is well to do.

Apart from Igboland, other societies such as The U.K, gun salutes are used to welcome important dignatories at Windsor castle. Throught the world, a knockout, which is fireworks, is used to compliment feasts like christmas, new year etc.
Gun salutes are good. I remember, in the first hour of transition from 2009 to 2010, in my part of London residence, over 1000 fireworks were blown to usher in the new year. Hence in Igboland, it should be encouraged.

From Bayelsa state.

@the Original poster. I hardly read any of your posts before this here. Are you always this stupidd or you are making a special effort today?. Why do you have sleepless nights over issues that you have no evidence to support your case, Brain dead monkey?.
Instead of creating threds on how you can be a lesbian, why not occupy your mind with the success Chinua Achebe and now Chimamanda Adichie has brought to Ndigbo and Nigeria.
How about Jim Nwobodo who established the first state university in Nigeria. How about the first indigenous university ion Nigeria-UNN that was established by the Igbo led eastern Nigeria.
How about K. Dike, the first Nigerian V.C of Unibadan.
How about Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first Nigerian Gov-gen and first president of Nigeria.
Also, Aguiyi Ironsi, the first Nigerian military general and first military head of state.
Emmanuel Ifeajuna, the first Nigerian to win a gold medal at CWG.
Nwafor Orizu-first Nigerian senate president.
Lois Odimegwu Ojukwu-first Nigerian multi-millionmaire.
Col Chukwuemeka Ojukwu-first graduate to enlist into Nigerian army coming in with first class honours degree from Oxford University.

The list is endless.

OMO IBO:
Gba brake biko,
O ru be gi ka hu but thanks for the heads up.

Meanwhile, i'd like to become a member of this organisation. My dad has been on my neck for a while.

Omo Igbo, with all pleasure, you are welcomed to join Igbo Cultural Support Network (ICSN). You can join for free via our website: www.icsn.co.uk. This body is an association of young Igbo people in The U.K. The aim is to promote Igbo culture in the U.K. Also, to ensure that there is networking between members as well as improved welfare packages for members. Lots and lots.
The body meets every second sunday of each month. An example of our programmes are like this:
6:00pm--Opening prayers.
6:10PM--Igbo lesson and network break.
7:00pm--Cultural presentation. The November topic will be 'the life and times of Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu'. This will be presented by the junior brother of the late hero. Arrangement is in progress.
8:00pm--Guest speakers.
9:00pm--the great debate.
9:30PM. Presentations or entertainments. Here young Igbo are giving the opportunity to showcase their talents. e.g poetry, novel, singing, dancing, Crack your rib etc.
9;45pm--Birthdays and announcemets.
10:00pm: Presidents remarks and closing prayers.
I look forward to seing you.
Onye nwe anyi nonyere gi.

Ahu ka mma na onye Eze nyuru.

mikeansy:
Onlytruth

Do not also forget the story of Joe Achuzia when he was chairman of Ohaneze.

This is how he went ahead to endorse OBJ's third term and that decision factionalised Ohaneze. So we have seen this kind of behaviour before.

So Uwechue should leave politics for Politicians and insulate Ohaneze from Politics no matter how noble he may think his agenda may be.

Mike I do respect your opinion, but it is worthy to note that the Ohanaeze of today led by Uwaechue is totally different from the Ohanaeze of Achuzia days. Prior to the endorsement of Jonathan, there were wild consultations home and abroad. I am an Igbo Youth leader here in London, and I knew very well when the consultation were going on.
It does not mean every Igbo will vote for GEJ. My point is-there were consultations.

slap1:
Ibu anyi ndanda, o ji akpa ntu mere pillow, oyi na-atu mba, oke nmanwu, ogbara nkiti okwu juru n'onu, elewe ejeghi oru, oku n'agba ozara, odo mmiri Bethsaida, ugwu a na ari atu egwu, etc.

Thanks a lot at the bolded and others.
I have been looking for that bolded part for a long time now. I first heard it at a crusade organised by Bro Laz of the famous Voice of the cross band at Etiti ,Imo state (2001).

Onlytruth:
Frankly, I think that it is very very bad for any Igbo to accuse Uwechue of "selling Ndigbo" because he is from south south. This is the type of silly mindset that defeats our collective objectives in Nigeria. Anyone making such claims should have their heads examined.

As I said before, Uwechue has demonstrated uncommon leadership as the head of Ohananeze, mainly because of his diplomatic and consultative skills. He never made this endorsement alone. He consulted. Of course, as Ndigbo, there will always be dissenting opinions. No one will force you to vote for anyone ultimately; but, Ndigbo must learn to speak with one voice on ANY issue in Nigeria.

Of course in time, there will be a more democratic way of seeking the opinions of Igbo masses at critical times (eg, through straw polls). For now, we can make do with a broad consultation by the Ohanaeze chieftains.

For the record, I have never seen Ohanaeze this organized, focused and mature for a very loooooooooong time. All credit should go to Uwechue. For me, the issue is not about Jonathan. The issue is about Igbo speaking with one powerful voice. We are gradually getting there.

May your days be long Nwa Nnewi.

@Chyz, as usual, your thoughts are wise. For many months, this impasse lingered on, Ohanaeze was not in a hurry to step in but at a stage, they had no choice as our people were heading to no where. After consultations and consultations and based on opinions of most Igbo associations, they made a choice.
Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo is cultural but when occasion demands, they interfere in politics.
Suggesting that Ohanaeze should not step a foot in politics is like suggesting that the Army should not step foot in Aba because it is the duty of the police in that city to maintain law and order.
Thanks to Uwaechue, majority of Ndigbo are in your support.

^^^Do not let others decide for you. Go out there and air your views on what happens. Posting utter nonsense upon nonsense on nairaland will not argue your course. Get involved.

EKE KERE UWA--God the creator.

rubi:
@Poster not only in Igboland but also in Nigeria and AFrica as a whole blame it on culture

You are right. But this thread centres on Igbo culture.

ChinenyeN:
Andre, don't get overexcited, tossing nonsense words, like "anti Ohanaeze chieftain". This is not an issue of anti/pro anything. Rather, this is about the fact that this organization is steadily dipping its socio-cultural hand where it shouldn't be dipped into. What they're doing is unfounded, plain and simple. If they want, they can develop their own political organization with Igbo political interests. There would be no argument against that, but what this "apex organization" is currently doing now, is simply nonsense and confusion.

I hope this organization is prepared to carry the blame and shame that comes with playing politics. Nonsense.

I think you are the one who is overexcited. ''Man is by nature a political animal''-Aristotle. Hence as humans, they have a right to to be involved in any thing that affects their group politically. Remember, when you are talking about culture (as in Ohanaeze), you are taling about the peoples way of life which includes culture.
The Igbo Union cum Ohanaeze has at one time or the other involved in descision making for their group e.g NCNC, NPP etc.
They know better than you and I.

ChinenyeN:
Wonders never cease. . . this "Apex Igbo Organization" should stop confusing itself and remove its hands from politics. Nonsense. Andre, enough. Which ndi Igbo? Please. Quit trying so hard to defend Ohanaeze in all its confusion.

When consultations are made, they do not come individuals for their views but Igbo organisations. You rely a lot on Nairaland to know about this consultations. Am not surprised this is coming from an anti Ohanaeze chieftain like you.
Take it or leave it, consultations were made which am very aware of it. Opinions might be divided but that is obtainable in other areas of Nigeria.

Iri Ji and other Igbo events affords people to meet future husbands and wives, different careers, different Igbo communities etc.

@The Thread Starter: Do not Ignore me this time. What is your opinion about the Almajiris ravaging Hausa/Fulaniland for ages?.

Ndigbo in Nigeria and abroad were consulted over this matter by Uwaechue's led Ohanaeze. Here in the U.K, all the Igbo organisations as well as Ohanaeze U.K chapter were consulted over this matter.
Opinions may differ, but indeed Igbo organisations were consulted over this matter by Ohanaeze Worldwide led by Uwaechue.
At this point, I advice Ndigbo home and abroad to associate with Igbo organisations in their locality.

Chineke nke Nnanna anyi--God of our ancestors (The patriarchs).

Sokoto, Zamfara and Kebbi states combined recorded less than ten thousand jamb application this year While Only Aboh, Ahiazu and Ezinihitte Mbaise LGA's recorded more than ten thousand.
Discuss.

oludashmi:
As for you Andre Uweh. . . . I have read too much of your posts but like I said, I choose not to reply to some posts on NL, all of the craps you wrote up there should have been better at the igbo section where you cause confusion btw your bros. . . . so you can excuse excanny and I. . . . we know what we are doing

What confiusion?. Anyway, I only cancel out lies told by people who do not understand the culture of this thy great race. It is proper for people not to write about a culture they are not very familiar with. My senior secondary school, Uni and Youth service were within Ibadan/Abeokuta axis, yet I do not write about their culture.
Yet still, I wonder what happened to Kindred heads, Ndiichie, Ndinze and Obis, Ezes and Igwes that a Yoruba man will be the one to settle conflicts in an Igbo community.

@OMO IGBO: Thanks for that wonderful video of yours. Thanks again for promoting Igbo culture in The U.K. One third of the girls who served were volunteers, some were members of ICSN while some were exec members. I have received a complaint about the conduct of one of the girls. We will investigate the matter. Meanwhile, I apologise on behalf of the body for any wrong doing from those girls. Godbless.

ChinenyeN:
Defeated?; Seriously, Andre, everthing is not a war; the problem with your mentality.

What does the bolded mean?.

9ja4eva:
What is the issue with Ika People?

Nothing special, just that a microscopic few like Agbontaen has been telling forumites that Ikas are not Igbo, but can not defend it. But we have followed him bumper to bumper with facts. He has been defeated yet he does not want to accept defeat.

@Oludashmi.
You are displaying insufficient knowledge of Igboland here. Anyway, you can learn here. Igbo communities are clan based. People of a clan live in the same area. They do not build a house at one location and move miles away to build another. It is a fallacy to type so.
Here is an example for you: Kindred-Umueze, they all live together, next to that kindred is Umuawuchi kindred but in the same ward, next to that is other ward and all in the same clan.
In West Africa, Igbo land is the most congregated area and the most populous. People from Kindred to ward to clan all live close to each.
Please do not type further crap as if there are no Igbo people here. Even though, they do not enjoy replying junks.

@IFY: That elder spoke well. However you still have those who beat their wives. What am saying is that at the moment, Igbo women are more respected and the idea of wife beating has reduced drastically. Igbo women in the 21st century is not same with late 19th and early 20th century which Achebe wrote in TFA. Credit to Igbomen for their perfect understanding.